Bill would deny U.S. citizenship to children of illegal immigrants
By: EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer | ∞
A bill recently introduced in Congress would deny U.S. citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants. Supporters said the bill, called the Citizenship Reform Act of 2005, would be a good way to control the number of people who have the right to claim citizenship ---- and the rights and benefits that come with it. Opponents said the measure was "extreme" and would be likely to face constitutional challenges.
An estimated 200,000 to 300,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the United States each year, according to the Center for Immigration Studies, a policy and research group that advocates for stricter immigration controls.
The Federation for American Immigration Reform, a group that also supports stricter policies, estimated that California spends about $7.7 billion each year to educate about 1 million children of illegal immigrants.
"Citizenship means you have some stake in this country; it's not just an accident of geography," said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman of the federation, which supports the measure.
However, immigrant-rights groups say that citizenship is a fundamental right that cannot be taken away by Congress.
"Citizenship belongs to a person wherever they are born," said Katherine Cullion, an attorney with the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund, a Latino rights group. "The most basic, fundamental right is the right to citizenship in the country where you were born."
Advocates for and against the measure, which has surfaced in various forms before, said the bill is unlikely to go far in Congress. The bill is now in the House Judiciary Committee. No hearing on the bill has been scheduled.
"This is really a perennial bill; it comes up each spring," said Angela Kelley, deputy director of the National Immigration Forum, an immigrant-rights advocacy group based in Washington, D.C. "It gets a handful of co-sponsors and never sees the light of day."
If enacted, the bill would stipulate that children born in the United States would be considered American citizens only if born to parents who are citizens or legal residents living in the country. Under current law, any children born in the country can claim American citizenship.
The bill was introduced last month by Georgia Republican Rep. Nathan Deal and was co-sponsored by 16 other representatives, including Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Huntington Beach; Rep. Gary Miller, R-Diamond Bar; and Tom Tancredo, R-Colorado.
Anti-illegal immigrant groups, such as the Federation for American Immigration Reform, say immigration, legal and illegal, is largely responsible for a population explosion that could lead to unprecedented social, economic and environmental problems.
"Massive population growth has and will continue to have a profound impact on the lives of all Americans," said Dan Stein, president of the federation. The group released a study this week that indicated more than half of the nation's population growth over the last 35 years is due to immigration.
However, Steven Camarota, the Center for Immigration Studies' director of research, said the citizenship bill itself will not solve the nation's illegal immigration problem. Without immigration enforcement elsewhere, such as at the border and at work sites, denying citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants would only make the number of illegal immigrants grow.
"By itself, it doesn't move the ball forward very much, if at all," Camarota said.
Contact staff writer Edward Sifuentes at (760) 740-5426 or esifuentes@nctimes.com.
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Rod (Colorado) wrote on Nov 23, 2005 11:55 AM:This is absolutely a must-pass bill, a good first step in regaining control over our overburdened population numbers which now stands at 295M. Illegals are a drain on our society. Do they do jobs no one else wants, or are the jobs being given to the lowest bidder? United Farm Workers is a hispanics-only club...whites and blacks need not apply. But I'll bet our own unemployed would love to have those jobs, and the high Union wages they pay.
JAY wrote on Nov 30, 2005 1:45 AM:Passing this bill would only punish innocent children. You have to take into account that children born to illegal immigrants have never been to their parents country of origin. Lets not forget the many condtibutions immigrants have made to our country. Thousands have served in our Armed Forces, and defented this country when so many of us only watch the war on T.V.
JB wrote on Dec 5, 2005 10:43 AM:sounds like a good idea to me! they way this is written, im supposed to be outraged? hahahhahaha. if i wanted to live in mexico.. at this rate all i have to do is wait awhile...
Siouxsie wrote on Dec 10, 2005 2:12 PM:This country is based on geographical migration, illegal or not! All the europeans were illegal and stole our land from underneath us. Lets not forget the genocide of my brothers and sisters massacred over this manifestiny crap the white man talks about all the time. No one can stop our primordal need to migrate. It is part of evolution til this day. The newcomers work to live and work here due to the us gov. destroying all their lands, remember?
Salty wrote on Dec 11, 2005 11:14 AM:No.
mexican-american wrote on Dec 17, 2005 10:32 PM:this land is a melting pot of cultures it is what makes america so strong over other countries if we start denying citizenship to kids born to illegals then we will all be illegals because this land belong to the indians before it was robbed, but you don't hear them crying so stop winning and let's all do something to make this country better.
joe wrote on Dec 21, 2005 6:53 PM:this is a very nasty bill. its punishing thousands/millions of kids and for what? to control population. taking citizenship away is not going to make things better. This bill would cause damage to these children, it means taking away their futures in this country.
Alicia wrote on Jan 12, 2006 3:42 PM:We need to wake up and stop being such ignorant fools. Did we not take this land from the mexicans and now want to keep them out. If you take away citizenship from these kids you might as well kiss good-bye all the jobs that the mexicans do. We need them and we should never take away a chance for children to have a better life. I feel that we need to work with mexico and allow these people to make a better life. My children are going to grow up knowing that the country they live in is home some of the most racist people in the world. Instead of making the problems better al that is going to happen is make them worse.
Candace N wrote on Jan 18, 2006 12:30 PM:I believe that this bill is wrong.Who is anybody to judge anybody. Nobody is perfect. This is supposed to be the land of the free. But instead of being the land of the free its starting to have prejudice. I have two children both children of illegal's. One is there. One is not. Who r we to judge people that want to have a better life. My child's father is illegal and he is a better father than my biological was to me. He takes care of the child that is not his just like an american would. This bill is like sayin my child cant call him daddy unless he's biological. I think this bill is wrong. I understand the problem with the issue. But there is another problem at hand to. This bill addresses babies born to immigrants. What about the babies born to a illegal immigrant and a american citizen. I do not see nothing wrong with trying to better your life. Why do people make illegals sound so bad. I seen a comment earlier on this website about the jobs being taken for the lowest wage. Most people I no wont work because they wont take the job with the lowest wage. And a Immigrant will because they want a future they wont to eat. They wont to live like americans because we are the envy of the world.
James wrote on Jan 21, 2006 6:39 AM:I think a better solution would be to annex Mexico as part of the U.S. Not take over by force but a mutual aggreement. We could help Mexico's economy to equal ours and working together with the Mexicans unify to build a stronger Country. Mexico could divide up into states like us and have strong state governments and rights. Buy the way Some of our states rights are infringed upon by the Feds in this country, but that is another issue. I just think unification is the key. We all belong to one planet and should strive for the good of all mankind.
Jan wrote on Jan 21, 2006 9:21 AM:Having been born in Wiesbaden, Germany of American parents, I can tell you that Germany does not list me as a citizen of their country. One gets their perspective on nationality from their parents and family, not necessarily from the soil on which they arrived on this earth. Legal immigrants' children should be Americans, but illegal aliens' children should not. I support this measure completely and believe it should have come immediately after 9-11.
Doris wrote on Jan 22, 2006 1:02 PM:I Think the best way to solve the immigrant problem is to fine the employer and giving him jail time.Quit giving free medical care to them.And no citzenship to the babies just because they were born here.
Rikter wrote on Jan 23, 2006 2:46 PM:Of course this measure would be brought on by the white man (the original immigrant) who intitially stole this land from the native americans which includes the mexicans. I agree that somekind of measure with guidelines needs to be addressed because of terrorist issues, but, not at the expense of innocent children. I think the original immigrant is starting to see the native american population explode and it scares them. Why, because one day, we will be the majority and have our native land back.
Roy wrote on Jan 24, 2006 3:58 PM:I find Rikters point interesting as I am sure that if we go back through the ages we will see that everyone who has occupied/lived on a land somewhere was in actual fact an immigrant! I am one of the priviledged that has been given legal status in this wonderful country. I obtained this status by going through the legal channels and not by jumping over a fence or through some other form of illigality. I think that the American Government has created a headache by being very linient to immigrants. Example, try taking a driving test in Germany, it is in German not in italien, not in Spanish, not in any other language. The Highway Code book is in German, it ids not printed in French or any other language. The point I am making is perhaps America needs to clamp down on being everything to everyone! The language of choice is English American. Start there, if you cannot read and write English American how can you be a productive citizen, make all immigrants serve 3 years in a military capacity (not necessarily fight but in another military support role), to be able to qualify to enter into the USA as an immigrant you must be able to read, write and understand basic communication skills. Surely you would not allow a baby to play with a loaded hand gun, so why would you allow the borders to be as loose as they are if you allow enough negative energy into the country they will turn and bite the hand that feeds them. You are not doing those illegals any favours by letting them in. They become prey for exploitation and crime. God bless America.
Frida wrote on Jan 25, 2006 11:46 PM:Annex Mexico? Not a chance..I think that would be the worst! The USA has stolen too much land already. No more invasions please! Mexicans are also natives of this land and they deserve to live here with equal rights. Period. This country would be worse off without our Mexican brothers and sisters.
Vista John wrote on Jan 26, 2006 10:43 AM:This bill is the right thing to do. What other country on the Planet allows someone to become a birth citizen? Zero It's time to take control of the Immigration into this country.
Vista John wrote on Jan 26, 2006 10:53 AM:Based on some of these comments the Planet earth needs no borders. All of us have come from the Planet Earth correct? So I should be able to go over the Mexican Border and get treated as local citizen, purchase land and live with no burdens placed on me. Ok until this happens guess what we have borders and laws that go with them. You are not an American because your mother can run to the border just in time to give birth to you here. this law is really way out dated and was never intened to be used the way the lawyers have twisted it. Correct the law now.
mexican-american wrote on Feb 7, 2006 9:40 AM:you have got to be kidding me, this bill is the worst yet, so what will be done to those chidren whose parents are a combination of a citizen and illegal, does the child get certain rights? Now how ridiculous would thast be.
Maria wrote on Feb 13, 2006 12:39 PM:If they are going to do this to the immigrants. I have only one thing to say, no one has the right to say that they are an american. The truth is no one is an american in the U.S. unless you are a native american. I think that this is a ridicoulous idea.
sally- california wrote on Feb 20, 2006 12:26 PM:i think that the government needs not stop contradicting what they are saying and stop trying to play stupid games. children shouldnt be affected by this, besides, isnt the government who says that the children are our future, well dont punish them for something that they couldnt do about.
Janet wrote on Sep 30, 2006 10:14 PM:This bill is unconstitional,and therefore will probably NOT be passed. Part of the fourth amendment gives us the citizenship clause which guarantees citizenship to "all persons born in the United states..." NOTHING in this clause says that the parents of the child MUST be residents or citizens or anything like that. This bill would be unfair to millions of children,and exclude them from countless opportunities in this wonderous country. Why would you punish millions of innocent children for simply being born?
Jim Drighton wrote on Feb 11, 2007 10:44 AM:this is a great bill, there are people out there who have been waiting a long time to get into the U.S. It's not fair for someone to just cheat and come over here illegaly. those people are elongating the time before the people who want to come here the right way
mario wrote on Feb 11, 2007 10:48 AM:them illegals need to get out of America, their elongating the time before the mexicans who want to come in the right way can come in
james wrote on Feb 11, 2007 10:56 AM:GO CANADIANS
LEarl wrote on Aug 29, 2007 1:01 AM: My grand parents were born in Oklahoma and were not given US citizenship. Of course,they were Comanche. Anyone can buy US citizenship.
BenDoon wrote on Aug 30, 2007 9:39 AM:A couple of decades from now we will be reaping what we are sowing. The voting power of the children of the illegals will be felt across this nation. This country will be unrecognizable in 50 years. Maybe that will be a good thing.
Jeanine wrote on Sep 11, 2007 3:31 PM:i think this bill is completely ridiculous... whatever this bill intends to do will not benefit anyone all it will do is punish children who did not choose on what soil they were born and it will only cause more trouble because everyone would have to prove that their parents are in the United States legally
CARLA wrote on Dec 6, 2007 8:26 AM:THIS IS DUMB THEY ARE DOING NOTHING WRONG TO US..!
Benjamin wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:27 PM:It's very painful to know that someone would think that they have the right to life while other's do not. I wish those who feel they have the right to life would taste the life of those who are looking for. History holds the truth for this country. Who are the actual owners of America.
Maureen wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:30 PM:
In response to comments above by women who are US citizen and have had children, in the US, fathered by illegal immigrants, your children are citizens and this proposed bill would not infringe on that. I'm very sympathetic to those who come here for a better life, but if you are here illegally, then you should not be here. The children you have, while here illegally, should not be here either. Let's be honest, there are many mexican women who come across the border illegally to have their children in the US. As taxpayers we cover the medical costs of these births. Isn't that enough? Why do these women, by manipulating the system, get to go to the front of the immigration line because now they have a child who is a US citizen. What about all of other people who are trying to immigrate to this country legally. The cost to our education system, in attempting to educate the children of illegal immigrants, is staggering. It takes away our ability to educate our own children, many of who are also in need. I'm not hard hearted, but I just feel that the continuous and ever rising influx of illegal immigrants to this country costs us much more than it brings to us. Our hospitals are closing. Our educational system is a disaster. There are legal ways to come to the US to work and pursue citizenship. That's the way it should be done and rewards, especially something as precious as citizenship, should not be given to those who break the law. I agree that the children are innocent, but all children are innocent and we need to take care of the ones who are here legally. There are many of them who have been waiting all their lives. No doubt we will still pay the medical costs of those who are here illegally and we will continue to struggle to educate the children who are here illegally. I think that is enough. We don't have to give those who use the system the right to go to the front of the line where citizenship is concerned. As for Native Americans and the land losses that Mexico suffered, I think the Native American history is tragic. I'm sorry that the US has a blemished history, but all countries do. My father immigrated to this country "legally". He had hardships and he left his parents and siblings with the realization that he might never see them again. He made a life for himself. In 61 years he has never claimed workers comp or welfare, even if he had to work 3 jobs. He had a sense of honor and pride that is missing in many today. Please understand, I would love for everyone on this planet to have all the good things that they want, but I can only afford to pay for so much and I resent those who take advantage of my kindness and my country.
Robert wrote on Mar 28, 2008 7:48 PM:I am white and American only by chance. I could have been anything else but I lucked out. Is it impossible to believe that Mexican mothers are trying to do the best for their baby(ies)? Would you blame any mother for that? Under the current circumstances, obviously we DO blame Mexican mothers for considering their possible future which is NOT very shining in Mexico. Punish the mother for trying to help her child and boot the newborn babe out while they're at it. By passing the bill our beloved politicians will pat themselves on the back and probably vote themselves yet another raise or a higher retirement income for serving one term -- maybe both. And you wonder where OUR money is really going! Let's clean up our own government before we start picking on someone else -- such as Mexican babies. Have any of you tried to vote yourselves a raise for doing such a damn good job?? Did it do YOU any good?
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