Lee wrote on Oct 13, 2005 8:50 AM:When walking East and West Valley Pkwy., and see's help wanted signs place in windows of small businesses that state must speak Spanish. An American citizen must speak Spanish to get a job in the U.S. What a shame.

your name here wrote on Oct 13, 2005 9:16 AM:I occasionaly hire these guys on the corner to do work I do not want to do. But I think it is ridiculous that they are asking 10 per hour to work there are plenty of citizens of the US that would love to make 10 per hour but as long as people keep paying them more and more it will never stop.

Fernando wrote on Oct 13, 2005 9:59 AM:I am Mexican-American (a U.S. citizen) and I can tell you that the Mexicans coming into the United States have no respect for this country. Most of these illegals are nothing but parasites, having too many babies and they don't pay one cent to the hospital. And they steal jobs from Americans. I have several friends who lost their construction jobs to illegals from Mexico. I speak for myself and everyone in my family about this issue. If you want the USA to look like Mexico, just keep letting these people into this country. Otherwise, we need to do something and fast. I am also tired of the latino gangs which are now in my small town (I live in San Diego County). NEver before did we have a problem but with the illegals moving in, we have graffiti and gangs intimidating people, committing crimes, etc. Fernando Pena

Fred Clovis wrote on Oct 13, 2005 11:06 AM:Thank you Councilwoman Marie Waldron for leading the way on this very important issue! You are a true leader in your community. May God bless you. You have my vote for sure for State Assembly. We need more people like you in Sacramento who will stand up for the right things, like the California Border Police Initiative.

cyphre wrote on Oct 13, 2005 12:13 PM:If you haven't signed a petition yet, use this link and get going on it. http://californiaborderpatrol.com/ If you haven't heard anything about the Minuteman Project, here's some news: They are doing great! Using private property offered by citizens living on the border has kept attacks by militant racist open-border organizations, and the ACLU, down to ZERO - and are they mad about it! They were told they would be arrested if they tresspassed on private property, so NO attacks by angry mob. Also, Feds gathering on border in Texas to do something about the drug cartels and murders - it's about time!

Rae wrote on Oct 13, 2005 12:48 PM:It is great that local politicians are finally recognizing the problem. My husband and I moved away from California because of the crime, the gangs, the drugs, and the usurpation of US territory into Mexico. We wanted a safe place to raise our son where we wouldn't have to be afraid to let him play in the front yard. Having lived in California for sixteen years, I have watched the problems go from bad to worse, and I am happy that we made the move we did. It could happen here eventually, but hopefully with the national attention now being focused on illegal immigration, something will finally get done. We need a high tech 16' wall along the entire length of our southern and northern borders, starting with the south border since that is where most of the illegal aliens come from.

Wayne Jobsinger wrote on Oct 13, 2005 1:24 PM:the offical website is http://www.calborderpolice.com for the Offical California Border Police Initiative

Junction Jim wrote on Oct 13, 2005 2:26 PM:I applaud your symbolic support of the proposed initiative to take back our country from the illegal Mexican invaders. The sooner these lawbreakers are rounded up, and then deported, the better for California and America. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say.

steve wrote on Oct 13, 2005 6:09 PM:Both houses just passed FUNDING for 1,000 bp agents,&the 'new REAL I.D. ACT. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051012/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_mexico_border_violence_1 http://www.thevictoriaadvocate.com/local/state/story/3086687p-3579997c.html http://washingtontimes.com/national/20051007-111713-7051r.htm

cyphre wrote on Oct 13, 2005 6:32 PM:Yahoo! Thanks for the good news Steve. If there's one thing Congress ought to be doing, it's providing protection for the sovereignty of our country!

Barbara wrote on Oct 13, 2005 6:45 PM:It is strange -- well not so strange, considering how sympathetic to illegal immigrants the NCT is -- that the names of the two people who took the trouble to testify before the Concil were not mention, but the name of the person who did not bother to testify was. I had two reporters ask my name, so it can't be because the reporter didn't know. I was disappointed at the mayor's vote. I recall that in 1994 when the council chambers were filled beyond capacity and with 3 full sized Mexican flags displayed in the audience, that Lori was the only council person with the guts to vote yes to support Prop. 187. Here cop-out response that it wasn't a good idea to take up the slack for the feds was very lame.

Andy wrote on Oct 13, 2005 7:29 PM:Nothing is going to change except now the taxpayers will have to take care of 1000's of new border police and their families, like they take care of all other government employees...

jesse wrote on Oct 14, 2005 12:40 AM:I do agree with you that illegal immigration is a problem, but to see how much hate there is toward people from south of the border is really sad. I came to this country illegally 15 years ago, I am now an American citizen. Never in my life did I apply for any government help. I started my bussines with a lot of sweat and work. I was never in a gang or committed a crime, and yet I get angry when people label every Mexicano as a good for nothing and lazy and think that we are all gangsters. We are hard working people too and work just as hard. Like I said before illegal immigration is a problem but please don't make the assumption that us of brown skin are all "illegals".

Not John and ken wrote on Oct 14, 2005 10:41 AM:i think we should figure that immigration legal or illegal will be around forever. It is arrogant to think we will never stoop to emigrating to another land. Hell how do most of ancestors came from. Except for blacks who were stolen people and then thier labor was stolen and native americans who had their land stolen, all of us were unwanted in some degree. However the policies the U.S. and Mexico have for instance are corrupted. First NAFTA which was hailed by the previous president Clinton "was going to end illegal immigration as we know it", that was before the US decided to give our manufacturing base to China. Remember the "sucking sound" of jobs to Mexico, Ross Perot warned, well that lasted a few a years til we truly outsourced to China by granting them Most Favored Nation trading status, and allowing them into the World Trade Organization. Once these policies of job shifting and destroying our manufacturing base along with the tech base to India as well, we are seeing the fallout. So the Dems and Reps are globalists with different social policies but when it comes down to it do we have any choice. And for the Republicans, you have had 5 years in power to get illegal immigration fixed, you have the presidency and Congress, you had 9/11 as a mandate to fix it, but it hasn't happened. Maybe the globalists want your vote but could care less what you want your country to be.....Sad thing is these Latino groups should be furious that conditions wont get better in their former countries, cause allowing illegal immigrants to leave while the few wealthy continue to prosper on their backs only makes thier existence more miserable for the rest left behind, uneducated, living in squallor and no future. Only an armed revolution will truly force governments to act especially south of the border. As Thomas Jefferson said every generation should have thier own revolution. When I see young teens who feel entitled to thier lifestyle, like its is "owed" them or illegal immigrants who feel like the are entitled to "rights in a foreign land", what kind of reality do we really live in.

Elizabeth wrote on Oct 14, 2005 11:26 AM:It is past time our representatives at every level stood up for America and our laws. This illegal invasion has to stop now! I am horrified at what has happened and continues to happen. Our government (at every level)has continued to aid and abet the invasion with their polices, regardless of what the citizens say. The only rights illegals have is to return to wherever they came from. Also, people who employ illegals for cheap labor do so at the expense of the rest of us, and are lawbreakers. Time to enforce those laws, and prosecute.

Kevin wrote on Oct 14, 2005 3:43 PM:Fernando Pena is absolutely right. Just look at all of the gang graffiti all over signs and buildings in Southern California trashing this once-beautiful place. Year by year this place is looking like the slums of Mexico (of which there are many). I would never hire any of these illegals and anyone who does is contributing to the problem. Unfortunately for the rest of the USA, this nightmare is coming to their neighborhoods soon if it has not already. Don't believe me? Try visiting any other city around the country where Mexicans have gained a foothold. Drive around and see the neighborhoods and public schools that have turned to crap.

Denis wrote on Oct 14, 2005 4:02 PM:Born and raised in California (Los Angeles), I have seen changes to this once great state, not for the better. Kevin is right in saying what the illigals have done to many cities and towns. Just drive through East Los Angeles today. Once a thriving immigration community, now the crap of LA. It is like driving through TJ. Dirty, Dirty, Dirty. These illegals, weither from Mexico or any other country, have no respect for our laws, our land and the citizens to this great state! We need enforcement at all border points! This state needs to send a message to the rest of the US and illegals that we mean busy enforcing the laws of immigration.

kevin wrote on Oct 16, 2005 7:43 AM:we all should be very vocal in our support for the FAIR 7-point immigration reform program. the pols must do somthing soon otherwise the american people in their rage may start shooting what they consider to be illegals on the street the people must act because we are being sold down the river by the pols desire for reelection. shout at the pols with letter, faxes and phone calls demand attention and acion

Cameron wrote on Oct 17, 2005 6:46 PM:Fernando makes an excellent point. Illegal aliens do negatively impact both the employment market and educational environment for US Citizens of Mexican heritage. Unfortunately, too many of our legal citizens of that ethnicity do not realize it and in many ways roll out the red carpet for more illegals to situate themselves. Of course, the main culprit - we must never forget, are the employers who want to take a free ride on the taxpayers who pay for the social costs of this invasion.

John wrote on Oct 19, 2005 8:02 AM:Thank you Marie Waldron, for standing up for what is right. Immigration is out of control. We need to enforce the laws that are currently on the books. No need for a fence, penalizing employers will dry up the jobs and stop the flow. Those already here will go back to Mexico when they have no hope of employment. To Jesse: Unfortunately, 15 years ago, you were "part of the problem". However... I can appreciate that you are hard working and have carried your own weight. Even better, you have taken the effort to become a legal citizen, and to learn the language, spoken and written (no easy task). Please don't be offended by "how much hate there is toward people from south of the border". It's not hate, it's everyone's frustration that the government has let the situation become so out of control. To Fernando: It's refreshing to see someone hispanic take an objective view of what's happening, rather than looking at the issue in terms of one's race. You are right, this country is being changed profoundly, and I don't think it's for the better. Thank you for being so honest in your evaluation of the situation. Final comment: I don't believe that this country can absorb and assimilate every individual that would like to come here. To continue on our present course is self destructive.

Ruben wrote on Oct 19, 2005 10:22 PM:The Escondido Human Rights Committee have no idea what they are talking about. Their arguments make no sense. I just saw them on the 11pm news and the young uninformed female who spoke sounded stupid. I am Mexican/Cuban American. My parents came to this country LEGALLY!! STOP THE ILLEGALS!!!

Edmundo wrote on Oct 20, 2005 1:28 AM:As I read everyone’s comments, I’m sad to say that I’m not surprised to see the hatred and ignorance coming from many people on the issue of immigration. No one wants to come to the United states to be a second class citizen. People from all over the world are forced here because of the economic coniditons in their homelands. It is time that people begin to ask the question of what the United States can do to keep people from having to migrate here, instead of what repressive law or measure can be done to stop them. Since 1994 over 3,000 HUMAN BEINGS have lost their lives to Operation Gatekeeper.

FRIDA wrote on Oct 20, 2005 11:57 AM:WOW,I can't believe all the racist in Escondido. No wonder these people feel attacked. You are ashamed of them speaking Spanish, you admit you give them the jobs you won't do. Why are they treated like animals? You think they have no rights? They are human beings. I feel ashamed that people in America feel this way. This is native land, the Mexicans and Natives were here before the other immigrants.

Ruben wrote on Oct 20, 2005 4:13 PM:mmmmmmmm......let'see.......how about if we start taking care of our OWN people fist before trying to take care of other countries problems? I am NOT responsible for the repression in other countries. I AM responsible for the repression in THIS country. People who have died crossing illegally is NOT due to Operation Gatekeeper - it is due to their own decision to cross, knowing about Operation Gatekeeper. Operation Gatekeeper is NOT a secret. EVERYONE in Mexico knows about Operation Gatekeeper, and it is each person's risk acceptance if they decide to cross. Now, on the other hand, we could just give all the land back to the Natives and Mexico since they were here first. Then we could responsibly concentrate on the repressive conditions they endure because then it would truly be our responsibility. You sound exactly like those who are demanding reparations for slavery! ABSURD!! If you feel ashamed, then leave. I feel sad that there are so many uninformed people who sincerely think they understand. That is real shame. My leaglly immigrated parents and legally immigrated in-laws agree completely with these words and they themselves say we need to STOP THE ILLEGALS!