Rumors fly over flower fields development

By: PHILIP K. IRELAND - Staff Writer | Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:01 PM PDT

CARLSBAD ---- Dueling definitions of the term "Flower Fields" have created a public relations problem for the city.

City officials define the flower fields as the 53.4-acre plot of sloping land striped with a rainbow of ranunculus every spring at the northeast corner of Palomar Airport Road and Paseo Del Norte ---- a popular tourist attraction with a trademarked name.

But a group of open-space activists called Concerned Citizens of Carlsbad has extended the term to include both the 53.4-acre field of ranunculus and another 321.6 acres spread out over three nearby sites zoned for agriculture and open space. Those sites have been used to grow flowers and strawberries in recent years.

The distinction is important because the city has said repeatedly it's not going to develop the 'The Flower Fields' ---- meaning the popular fields of ranunculus ---- while the activist group says it's concerned the city is preparing to allow development on its more expansive definition of the flower fields sites.

The situation has confused some city residents.

"We have people calling the city who think that the 'Flower Fields' are in danger of being developed," city spokeswoman Denise Vedder said. "So we'd like to get the point across that the land that 'The Flower Fields' is on is not for sale and cannot be developed."

City Planning Director Marcela Escobar-Eck puts it another way: "When the city says, 'Relax, (the Flower Fields) are not going to be developed,' we are specifically talking about the 53.4 acres."

Concerned Citizens spokesman Ronald Alvarez said his group has dedicated itself to preserving the last of the city's open spaces, including the flower and strawberry fields.

"It is our heritage," Alvarez said. "It's what everybody thinks of as Carlsbad ---- the flowers fields, the strawberry fields ---- and people come from all over the world to see (them)."

Alvarez said he believes the public at large also sees all four properties as "the flower fields," adding that any development on any of the four properties would jeopardize Carlsbad's flower-growing legacy for future generations.

The issue for Alvarez is whether Carlsbad will remain a world-renowned center for floriculture, or just another overdeveloped Southern California coastal town.

"That land should be preserved as open space and parkland," he said.

Working from south to north, "The Flower Fields" tourist attraction sits on a slope wedged between Armada Drive and the Geological Institute of America and Paseo Del Norte and the Carlsbad Outlet Mall. This property is owned by a subsidiary of Carltas.

Abutting that tract to the north is a 45.6-acre flower-growing field that ends at Cannon Road. That site, and a 26.45-acre flower-growing plot near Legoland to the east, are also owned by Carltas.

A fourth property of 250 acres on the north side of Cannon Road is owned by SDG&E. Those acres have been planted with strawberries for many years. Locals descend on the fields in spring to pick their own strawberries.

Alvarez said he's concerned that city officials have already decided to allow development on three of the four properties.

Cynthia Haas, Carlsbad's manager of economic development and real estate, confirmed that the city has met with organizations, including Lennar Corp, Legoland, the Gemological Institute of America and Grand Pacific Resorts. But, Haas said, she could not be specific about city and developer plans for the region because talks haven't progressed to that stage yet.

Lennar spokesman Bernie Rhinerson said Lennar is investigating three properties in the area, but declined to provide details. Carltas spokesman Scott Maloni said Lennar has approached Carltas about the two Cannon Road properties. SDG&E spokeswoman Anne Silva said Lennar has signed an "option agreement" to investigate uses for the 250-acre strawberry field property.

Lennar is known for its large, mixed-use developments ---- projects such as Bressi Ranch. Now under construction, the Bressi Ranch project includes offices, commercial buildings and upscale housing on a 585-acre site at Palomar Airport Road and El Camino Real.

"Lennar is the third largest builder in the United States," Alvarez said. "They build homes. They're not going to build parks."

Alvarez said his group has begun the process of placing an initiative on the 2006 ballot to save roughly 375 acres of agricultural property that includes the popular strawberry and flower fields off Interstate 5 from residential development.

Alvarez said his group will begin gathering signatures to place the issue of the fields on the ballot in November 2006. To do that, he said, his group will need about 6,000 signatures ---- 1/10th of the city's registered voters.

Contact staff writer Philip K. Ireland at (760) 901-4043 or pireland@nctimes.com.

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Joel wrote on Oct 26, 2005 5:26 AM:"placing an initiative on the 2006 ballot to save roughly 375 acres of agricultural property" Here "save" means "prevent the owners from using their land". It doesn't seem as though the owners want their land "saved" through this reverse condemnation. If we were talking about buying the land, ala the Nature Conservancy, that would be another story. But no one's got the millions necessary to compensate the owners for taking their prime coastal land. So why condemn (without compensation) this land but not the thousands of other acres of coastal land developed in Carlsbad over the past 40 years?

Michael D wrote on Oct 26, 2005 8:27 AM:It is sad that Mr. Alvarez and his NIMBY pals are so selfish, greedy and disrespectful that they will try to deprive someone of their constitutional rights to private property ownership. Perhaps the next time a NIMBY claims rights to land they don't own and never paid taxes or mortgage payments on, landowners should launch a petition drive to turn that NIMBY's home into a public park or homeless shelter. Oh, by the way, don't expect the City of Carlsbad to pay for more open space; they just squandered $60 million taxpayer dollars to build a golf course they can't afford and don't need.

Julie wrote on Oct 26, 2005 11:01 AM:What rumors? It's more like purposful deception. The nimby group is taking a civic jewel in the "flower fields" and leveredging that open space asset to apply to their desire to "take" private property. It's very bad form, but they are doing it because they know that the public loves the flower fields and will find sympathy with that. From now on if they refer to the other property as flower fields they should be held accountable. As a Carlsbad resident I think the Carlsbad Ranch with all that it offers, from LEGOLAND to GIA, Namm, Carlsbad Company Stores, High end Offices, Karl Strauss, Quality hotels and other amenities is a great asset. Thoughtful development like that makes Carlsbad a great city!

Edwin wrote on Oct 26, 2005 1:52 PM:Do we really need what open space is left along the freeway which includes the flower fields and strawberry fields gobbled up by development? NO NO! We all need to band together to prevent some out of area developers who really could care less about open space and kick them to the curb. This is where we have to live lets keep this whereever else we can open!!

Jennifer wrote on Oct 26, 2005 10:29 PM:I have lived in North County since 1975. There used to be beautiful fields of flowers visible right off I-5 south of Costco. Now the fields are a housing development. If those houses, etc. are built, we will lose something that can never be replaced. Does Carlsbad need the money or its beauty?

TJ wrote on Oct 27, 2005 4:32 PM:It’s time for a change in our city hall. The City of Carlsbad needs leaders who will stay connected to their community and serve the public interest. Not career politicians like Bud Lewis 35 years as councilmember/mayor, Ann Kulchin 25 years as councilmember, Matt Hall 11 years as councilmember!

Blake wrote on Oct 31, 2005 5:43 AM:Doesn't anyone care about preserving open space in Carlsbad anymore? The City doesn't and the developers sure don't. Left unchecked, Carlsbad will become the next Huntington Beach.

John wrote on Oct 31, 2005 1:16 PM:As a long time surfer and resident of Carlsbad "Village by the Sea", I remember a sleepy little beachside community that tried to set itself apart from the other spralling communities to the north in Orange County. Now you can hardly tell the difference between our once wonderful "village" and any of the coastal Orange County cities. Without a drastic change from the top down in the Carlsbad goverment, the development and destruction of our "village by the sea" will continue until every plot is taken by a hotel or some other business the powers that be deem more economically viable... Shame on you Bud Lewis!

Paul in Carlsbad wrote on Mar 8, 2006 12:49 AM:>>It is sad that Mr. Alvarez and his NIMBY pals are so selfish, greedy and disrespectful that they will try to deprive someone of their constitutional rights to private property ownership.<< "Their" constitutional rights? Lennar has rights to overdevelop land that they buy to make a profit on? Hey, politicians, slap a moratorium on building such things based on inadequate public facilities i.e road capacity. You been on the 5 Freeway lately? You keep handing out building permits(Bressi Ranch)when you have no road capacity. What are you thinking? Time for some slow growth candidates to replace the current Carlsbad pols.

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