Military rejects notion of shared air fields
By: MARK WALKER - Staff Writer | ∞
SAN DIEGO ---- The military fired a shot across the bow of the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority on Monday, telling the agency that neither North Island Naval Air Station nor Miramar Marine Corps Air Station should be shared with civilian aircraft.
Authority board members, however, deflected those comments, saying the military has to be part of the region's long-term airport needs.
In presentations to an authority planning committee, Navy Cmdr. Mike Phillips said sharing Coronado's North Island air field with civilian passenger and cargo aircraft isn't feasible because of the number of military flights, and that such joint use is generally against Department of Defense policy.
"We're here to help you avoid getting on a track that will lead to ultimate failure," Phillips told the authority's Strategic Planning Committee.
Immediately after Phillips was done, Marine Col. Gregory Goodman said that Miramar's existing air field and a concept for a new commercial airport on the eastern portion of the sprawling 23,000-acre base would be impractical because of interference with Navy and Marine Corps flight operations.
"Joint use is not good at Miramar," Goodman said. "It only works in places where there are factors that aren't present at Miramar."
Most of the nation's 23 shared-use airports are heavily dominated by either the military or civilian aircraft, he said.
Goodman also said that the 105,000-acre Camp Pendleton does not have sufficient land for a new airport and that sharing that base's air field wouldn't work.
After hearing those presentations, authority board member William Lynch said county residents generally view Miramar as the most logical site for a new airport because of its central location in northeastern San Diego and its easy freeway access.
Lynch and other panel members also told Phillips and Goodman the military cannot simply say "no" and walk away from the discussion.
"We're hoping to get someone at the military bases to take a hard look and see if we can find some way ... to solve this problem," Lynch said.
The airport authority has a self-imposed April deadline to come up with a recommendation to county voters and what it believes is the best option to meet expected growth in air passenger and cargo demand.
Downtown San Diego's Lindbergh Field, the busiest single-runway airport in the nation and restricted from having overnight arrivals and departures, is forecast to be out of room to handle projected growth within about 10 years.
The authority has been working since 2003 to come up with a solution, winnowing a list of more than 30 potential sites down to three civilian possibilities and the base sites.
The civilian sites include expansion of the 612-acre Lindbergh, Campo in the southeastern portion of the county and a site just over the Imperial County line. The base sites include Camp Pendleton, Miramar, North Island and March Air Reserve Base in Riverside County.
March is not being further studied, however, primarily because of its distance from a majority of San Diego residents. The same is true with a civilian site near Borrego Springs.
Under a plan that will be considered by the full airport authority board on Dec. 5, each of the military sites except March will get a full study including considering what could happen five, 10 or 15 years from now.
And that's just what should happen, several speakers told the panel.
"Miramar is the future for San Diego and the people would appreciate a new airport being located there," Poway resident Don Connors said.
Sandor Shapery, a member of a San Diego Association of Governments advisory committee, said the state legislation that mandates the authority consider military sites requires that it "leave no stone unturned."
"Don't be dissuaded by the fact it may have to be in someone else's backyard," Shapery said.
The authority had refrained from considering any of the county's military bases until the latest round of nationwide base closures and realignments was completed, a process that recently ended.
John Chalker, head of San Diego-based Alliance in Support of Airport Progress in the 21st Century, said his business-oriented group is firm in its conviction that the bases have to be fully examined for shared use and exclusive civilian use.
A couple of speakers and authority board members said that examination needs to include whether the fixed-wing aircraft at Miramar can be moved to North Island or the Marine Corps base in Yuma, Ariz., and its helicopter units transferred to Camp Pendleton.
One of the recommendations from the authority's staff that will be considered by the full board in December is whether to call for a multi-day session with Navy and Marine Corps officials to fully explore the base sites as new airport possibilities.
Board member Robert Maxwell of Oceanside said he is growing increasingly concerned over the length and complexity of the remaining tasks for the authority before its planned April decision.
But Lynch pointed out that the measure voters will consider next November is advisory in nature and that actual planning and construction of a new airport probably would not be finished for at least 10 years or more.
Contact staff writer Mark Walker at (760) 740-3529 or mlwalker@nctimes.com.
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Steve wrote on Nov 15, 2005 5:30 AM:"Don't be dissuaded by the fact it may have to be in someone else's backyard," Shapery said. He should have added "Especially if it's in someone else's backyard." Question: why is it that none of the most ardent proponents of a regional airport at Miramar ever lists an address in that area--they're always from somewhere outside the area bounded by Interstates 805 and 15 on the west and east, respectively, Mira Mesa and Miramar to the north and south. Anyone who lives and or works in that area of San Diego would have to be off their rocker to want a regional airport within the aforementioned confines. If you think traffic in that area is bad now, just add a regional airport, especially since SANDAG is no more likely to build up the infrastructure to support a regional airport than politicians are likely to tell the truth about anything.
Justin wrote on Nov 15, 2005 6:27 AM:I think we should have more then one airport. Palomar Airport in Carlsbad already has a few commercial flights. Why not expand that airport along with other municipal airports around the county rather then find one huge site for an airport.
Richard wrote on Nov 15, 2005 8:38 AM:It isn't gonna happen! How many ways and in how many different review processes does the military and feds have to say no. The shared use concept has never been, isn't, and will never be an option. This current iteration of the airport agony needs to deal in practicalities rather than 'pie in the sky' wishes. Any other sites than desert property are not going to happen.
Chris wrote on Nov 15, 2005 9:58 AM:The discussion of a new airport for San Diego never fails to amaze me. What planet does this Regional Airport Authority live on and how's the weather there? I don't understand why they keep insisting and trying to impose upon the military that they give up one of their bases for a civilian/ joint use airport. According to the article "Lynch and other panel members also told Phillips and Goodman the military cannot simply say 'no' and walk away from the discussion." Unfortunately for your panel, yes, they can. They don't work for you and are under no obligation to leave these bases. Further, a panel member also said "We're hoping to get someone at the military bases to take a hard look and see if we can find some way ... to solve this problem." In other words "Yes, this is our problem and we're in over our heads...but we're going to try to find a way to make this YOUR problem, too." MCAS Miramar, especially, as the only master jet base on the West coast is really untouchable. For the sake of argument, though, let's say that it's not. To put it mildly, you have serious issues. How long would the clean up of hazardous materials take? How long would the inevitable lawsuits take to resolve? As just one example of that, think about the massive depreciation of real estate that would occur in areas such as University City and La Jolla. If the town fathers thought Point Loma residents had political power, wait until they encounter the NIMBYs that would sprout up in La Jolla. Further, how do you address the fact that for significant parts of the day freeway and surface street access would be a nightmare? Add up all those considerations (and a whole lot more) and I would say we're at least 10-15 years away from even starting to build at Miramar, let alone having a functioning airport there. Here's a radical idea. San Diego came to be the second largest city in the state and seventh largest in the entire country with Lindbergh Field. Yes, it's small. No, pilots don't care for the tight approach corridor. And yes, I'm sure SANDAG and others would love to point to a bright, shiny white albatross of an airport. San Diego will never be a hub airport. We're an end destination. And it's very unlikely to be a major cargo or international departure point like LAX or San Francisco. Think about it; seventh largest in the nation with a postage stamp of an airport. Maybe we should just leave well enough alone.
Larry wrote on Nov 15, 2005 3:11 PM:Chris hit the nail on the head "San Diego will never be a hub airport..." These so-called airport authority still dream of a hub airport for San Diego. Instead of dreaming up for a grand scheme, they need to find a solution. Case in point, greater LA basin has SEVERAL airports to spread out the load. Why won't they look at the option as suggested by Justin? Because they won't get what they've been paid for "TO MAKE SAN DIEGO A HUB". Sometime you just wonder what they're smoking!!!
Chuck wrote on Nov 22, 2005 8:47 AM:Let's see here. My federal tax dollars have already bought and paid for Mirimar. Now San Diego wants the federal government to just give them that airfield and move somewhere else. Then I get to pay for improvements to a base like El Centro so that it can handle the new tennants. No thanks. Solve San Diego's problems with San Diego's money. This fight has been going on for 20 years. If the city had done something about the problem in the 80's we wouldn't be having this problem now. As for a big airport, there is one just across the border.
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