200 rally in support of stricter border control

By: BRIAN ECKHOUSE - Staff Writer | Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:15 PM PST

Richard Goetsch, of San Marcos, brought his 5-foot by 8-foot American flag to Saturday's rally in support of U.S. House Bill 4437 at Pala Park in Temecula. More than 200 people were on hand waving American flags and listening to speakers on the topic.
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TEMECULA ---- Though the 200-plus supporters of stricter border control who packed a Temecula park Saturday couldn't compare numbers to the 500,000 immigrants' rights activists who jammed downtown Los Angeles, many of the local participants said their staunch opposition to extending rights to illegal immigrants was shared by a majority of Americans.

A few speakers at Pala Community Park, however, acknowledged that they were upset that law enforcement didn't arrest the thousands of illegal immigrants marching the streets of Los Angeles on Saturday.

Tim Donnelly, a leader of the Minutemen of California, said he "dreamed" that all Border Patrol cruisers stationed in Campo had been relocated to Los Angeles on Saturday to deal with the illegal immigrants and their supporters who marched "on our streets."

The Minutemen voluntarily monitor the U.S.-Mexico border, and report any curious activity to law enforcement officials.

Ralliers in Temecula ---- particularly the Minutemen ---- support the Border Protection, Anti-Terrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act, which was passed by the House of Representatives, but oppose some senators' campaign to add a guest-worker/amnesty plan to the bill.

Assemblyman Ray Haynes, R-Murrieta, said it is "time to stop rewarding the lawbreaker" with reduced college tuition, food stamps and limited health care.

Some speakers issued a warning to President Bush should he ultimately back the guest-worker addendum.

"If he thought the Dubai ports things was a challenge, he hasn't seen anything yet," said Arne Chandler, referring to Dubai Ports World, a United Arab Emirates company, which had been granted federal approval to manage a half-dozen major American ports ---- but withdrew following a public outcry.

Chandler represents CASA, or the Citizen Activists for a Secure America.

A common theme woven throughout the two-hour rally was the belief that the U.S.-Mexico border is too porous.

"We have lost control of the border," said Richard Randall, a Norco resident who is a member of the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps. "There are probably 5 million illegals in Southern California. You go to construction sites all over and you see them having other people's (citizens') jobs."

But the problem isn't limited to the border, said Marie Waldron, an Escondido city councilwoman and candidate for state Assembly.

She encouraged the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement to better support local law enforcement.

Speaker Lupe Moreno, a resident of Orange County who is seeking a seat in the state Senate, received the most applause. She is the daughter of a Mexican immigrant and a Texan. She was born in the United States.

Moreno, a member of Latino Americans for Immigration Reform, said it wasn't odd that she is vehemently against giving rights to illegal immigrants.

In 1990, her 13-year-old nephew, Ruben Morfin, was shot in the head, allegedly by an illegal immigrant in Salinas. Ruben died a day later.

"We need to tell illegal aliens: 'You cannot break our laws; we won't accept this. Go home,'" Moreno said.

The event, which was patrolled by two Temecula police officers, was peaceful ---- with the exception of the participants' reaction to Temecula resident Eric Scharf's statement that they were "white people" and "racists."

About 30 people chased Scharf ---- before the officers stepped in. Scharf, 21, and his 16-year-old brother, Matt Illich, were issued warnings by the officers.

Bob Springer of La Mirada yelled, "Throw him in jail."

Another man barked, "If you love Mexico, go back."

Scharf, who is white, said he overheard the public address system while at his sister's house, which is about a mile from Pala Community Park, and decided to counter the rally participants' message.

"I'm sick of extra taxes like these people, but it's not the Mexicans' fault for coming here," Scharf said in an interview. "If you had a family, I'd imagine you'd come over here, too."

But Chandler, citing two recent car accidents he had with uninsured illegal aliens, said Americans suffer because there are "no consequences" for the actions of illegal immigrants.

Contact staff writer Brian Eckhouse at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2626, or beckhouse@californian.com.

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Jefe wrote on Mar 26, 2006 12:22 AM:Thank God some brave Americans are standing up against the insanity of illegal immigration in this country. Watching the illegals march in L.A. made me sick and shows how bad the problem has gotten. Some of them actually said they had the "right" to free education and life in America after they snuck in to this country illegally. The only thing they have a right to is a free ride back to Mexico. Don't go away mad, just go away!

Richard wrote on Mar 26, 2006 7:15 AM:What is so difficult to grasp about illegal? These illegal immigrants break our laws and we're supposed to take care of them? Would Mexico let you in and give you services? I can't believe Americans are so stupid? Thank God there were patriots at this meeting trying to bring the truth out.

No to SPP wrote on Mar 26, 2006 8:03 AM:While you are reading this the Presidents of the U.S. and Mexico, and the P. M. of Canada are planning to meet in Mexico to further review and plan the combining of Canada, America and Mexico in EU fashion. The ‘Security and Prosperity Partnership’, SPP, which should have been a treaty with consent of the Senate, is an important agreement between the three countries that will dramatically change the relationship between them. Every concerned citizen should look at this agreement, search SPP. This agreement, between countries and corporations, but not the people, is one root cause of the federal government purposely allowing a flood of illegal aliens to enter this county. All good people must come to the aid of their country, America, not Mexico.

PULEASE wrote on Mar 26, 2006 8:07 AM:Yes sit on your lawn chairs under your umbrellas to prove a point. Take a cue from liberals who really know how to protest!

Lee wrote on Mar 26, 2006 9:04 AM:This is serious business! The very future of this Country is on the line! Those freeloaders in DC will pass an amnesty bill because they are afraid that the ILLEGALS will start a war on our soil - I say enforce existing law and BRING IT ON!

Robin wrote on Mar 26, 2006 9:06 AM:What a great group of Americans! THANK YOU!!! The issue is simple - UPHOLD THE LAW! If illegal immigrants would just obey U.S. law the issue would be solved. This is about lawbreaking!

TrueAmerican wrote on Mar 26, 2006 9:11 AM:What makes these cocky, arrogant people think they are ENTITLED?!! The trash should STAY HOME to change things for the better there. WHEN are we going to start ENFORCING U.S. law and booting these losers outta here?!! (BTW, we can give them INCENTIVES and a DEADLINE to leave, we don't have to bus them!) Liberalism is destroying America, and this is further proof!!

Bob wrote on Mar 26, 2006 9:11 AM:While I can relate to those wanting to immigrate into the United States. I do not support any project/proposal that continues to support illegal immigration into this country. It is not racist in nature BUT a factor of economics. As an over 55 American and having served in the military in Southern Az... I am sympathic to the issue of Mexicans or any foreign national wanting to come to America. But my concern is the lack of concern by our elected officals because of the "POLITICAL POWER" of these individuals. Temporary work visas should be COMPLETELY DONE AWAY WITH. Corporate American... WANTS/NEEDS this source of lower pay jobs in the southwest. There should be NO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR illegal aliens, no medical benefits for these same type of individuals. Any service that is paid for by my TAX DOLLARS should be taken away from all illegal aliens. Any special deals in SMALL BUSINESS LOANS, EDUCATIONAL GRANTS/VISAS MUST BE CONTROL or flat out eliminated. Most of the foreing students that attend our Colleges and Universities come from the elite of the elite in their countries. And they receive grants from these same colleges and live like kings and queens on our country. Once educated here... they must return to THEIR OWN COUNTRY FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN FIND EMPLOYMENT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. The Terrorist that was allowed to enter YALE is a prime example of how WRONG this system is. Where did he get the MONEY TO ATTEND YALE. Let alone get a student visa.

Tori wrote on Mar 26, 2006 9:47 AM:I.C.E is nowhere to be found when they are needed. L.A. would have been the spot yesterday! Mexican flags waving, mostly Spanish speakers attending; no I.C.E, M.I.A. as usual!

Jeff wrote on Mar 26, 2006 10:20 AM:Throwing illegals in jail is not the solution. They will be deported only to be back another day. Why?? Because they will find work here. If we instead arrested the owners and CEO's of these companies that hire them and put them in jail for a week at a time, the jobs would dry up quickly. No work, no more illegals crossing the border. It's that simple. Cut the job life line and they will not come. Keep the jobs open and they will never stop. But arresting the owners and CEO's of businesses won't happen will it? But they truly are the problem. But it's easier for us to hate people of a different race isn't it instead of addressing the true problem. No jobs, no illegals. No need for money spent on walls or fences. You see we aren't crying about the Canadian border are we. They are not streaming down to work in fields and orchards, to mow our lawns. A terrorist can cross that border just as easy if not easier, so its not about security is it? Think about it.

Lee wrote on Mar 26, 2006 12:05 PM:Finally, a comprehensive and balanced article on the illegal immigration problem and those who are working to resolve it. Thank goodness for the Minutemen and others who have opened our eyes to this huge economic problem.

Don't worry wrote on Mar 26, 2006 12:17 PM:Soon the Asians will call their multitrillion dollar loans that they made to the USA over the past 30 years, and Americans will have to wash cars and make pizza to make ends meet - all at asian owned operations. Immigration problem solved - no jobs or money will be left in the USA. As for the situation now, if there were no illegal immigrants, pizza would cost like 40 bucks each and you would have to look after your OWN kids.

Bird wrote on Mar 26, 2006 12:45 PM:The Bush/Kennedy/McCain Amnesty Scheme is something some politicians and racist organizations like LULAC, MALDEF, and MEChA are pushing so they can make "Illegal Aliens" in the country since 1987, become eligible for Social Security benefits at your expense. Lookin' out for the taxpayer? SUUUUURE! DfD(Democrats for Deportation)

Rob wrote on Mar 26, 2006 1:08 PM:If illegals would come into our country and actually pay into the system instead of just taking from it, I wouldn't have a problem. The fact that they get free/reduced health care, education, and other benefits WITHOUT paying a dime into the system, makes me furious. Why are the protestors in L.A. so upset? They don't have a foot to stand on if all we are doing is simply choosing to finally enforce our immigration laws. The idea "Jeff" mentioned below is brilliant. Start cracking down on the money-hungry contractors that pay illegals under the table and we'll see how quickly things change.

dae wrote on Mar 26, 2006 1:16 PM:Jefe, I agree with you whole heartedly except for the fact that they do not have a right for a free ride back to Mexico, they already drained this economy enough (healthcare & education) they should at least pay for the cattle truck ride home!, they got the cash!

Ms Fran wrote on Mar 26, 2006 1:58 PM:Richard Goetsch, of San Marcos, brought his 5-foot by 8-foot American flag to Saturday's rally in support of U.S. House Bill 4437 at Pala Park in Temecula. More than 200 people were on hand waving American flags and listening to speakers on the topic. Thank you for defending the LAW Mr Goetsch and the others.I encourage others accross the country to do the same. THe illegals demands are outragous. N.H. we are organizing as well.

Taryn wrote on Mar 26, 2006 2:02 PM:I am fuming that this article was relegated to an inside page of the Local section of my edition of the paper and that half of it had been edited out. I am finally convinced that the NCT is completely out of touch with the community it serves. This should have been front page news, or better yet, have its own section with color pictures of the closer to 300 people that showed up (I was there) and quotes from all of the 17 absolutely wonderful guest speakers. The facts and information shared are so critical to the survival of our country as we know it that it needs to be published! The article also failed to mention was that Eric Scharf was not invited to speak and that he forced his way up to the microphone and loudly yelled to a peaceful crowd of parents and children of many different skin colors and races "F--- You, Racists!" This is the idiotic argument people with no real argument continuously resort to.

Ron wrote on Mar 26, 2006 3:46 PM:God bless the Minutemen and god bless the patriotic AMERICANS who refuse to be silenced by the ridiculous use of the race card. I hope those Americans who did not see this as the invasion that it is have been woken up by the flags and demands of these foreigners, they deserve nothing and any politician who supports anything but deportation and enforcement of are current laws is a tratior. Antonio "Reconquista"Villaraigosa, Gil Cedillo, and Fabian Nunez all spoke at the invasion rally in Los Angeles in favor of the illegal alien invasion, where are the American politicians condemning them as the Mexican/Mexico treasonous scum they are.They clearly represent the interests of Mexico. They should be imprisoned immediately.

Mexican-American wrote on Mar 26, 2006 4:10 PM:Do you like fresh strawberries?

George wrote on Mar 26, 2006 4:35 PM:I think some of the people writing comments here are very uninformed. Sending every illegal alien out of this country would not just harm our economy but destroy it, is anyone in here willing to not go to college to work in the farms of California cause we sure need a lot of workers. I really don't want to pay more for my fruit than what i'm paying right now. Many illegal aliens do pay taxes, don't use our welfare programs and are only here to work just like our fore-fathers did, and I know some people would say that there are people coming here legaly but the truth is that most people are not even eligible to apply for a visa. By the way there's a lot of wealthy American Citezens living in Mexico undocumented, and yes the mexican government does care for them.

American Patriot wrote on Mar 26, 2006 4:35 PM:To see illegals and those traitors marching with them is a disgrace. Congress are you watching? Americans are you watching? Are you going to let these people dictate what happens to our country and laws? Are we going to let people break our laws and then make demands. Americans, its time you stand up for this country. If you continue to sit on your butt and do nothing, then you are part of the problem. These jobs do need to dry up. Self deporting will happen. Congress needs to know they will pay a price if they cave into pressure instead of putting thier country first. Such a disgrace that the streets aren't filled with American citizens telling these people, we're not going to take it, go back!!!!

Joann wrote on Mar 26, 2006 4:59 PM:I read through all these comments and I couldn't believe some of the rude, uninformed, racist, idiotic comments that were posted. I hope everyone here wakes up and smells the coffee. I hope the next time you take a bite out of an apple or a pear, i hope you know the majority that picked them out for you. Imagine what southern California would be without mexicans. I agree that there should enforce more rules on the border, but there's just some parts of that law that are ridiculous. I hope everyone realizes and appreciates all that mexican workers have done for this country... oh yes and one more thing, they don't use the welfare program much, there's another ethnicity that uses the most welfare in the country. Get your facts straight people, get off your high horse, realize none of us would be here if it wasn't for migrating and understanding the americnan dream.

Jefe wrote on Mar 26, 2006 5:16 PM:Wake up people! This is about securing our borders from terrorists, drugs, and felons and people with no respect for America or our laws. 10,000 foreign nationals enter this country ILLEGALLY every day from numerous countries. That is a large fotball stadium every week. Bush should be impeached and Congress should be fired. They know how bad it is and they haven't done squat to secure the border. If 50 Minutemen can shut down 10 miles of border tight as a drum, surely putting more well trained border patrol agents out there could do the same.

Barb wrote on Mar 26, 2006 6:12 PM:I cannot believe that so many Americans continue to think these people deserve what they are stealing by the citizens. Now they are actually threatening to boycott our businesses, etc. if they do not get their way. How dare they think they can do this? I say, "Go ahead and boycott". We have gotten along without your kind for a long time and still will.

Janet wrote on Mar 26, 2006 7:03 PM:I hope that all of you who have written to describe the problems of illegal immigration will take the time to email Senators Boxer and Feinstein. They need to know what we believe. www.senate.gov/

Michael T. wrote on Mar 26, 2006 9:04 PM:To all pro illegal immigration folks; tell me where you live, then keep your door unlocked, I'll move in uninvited with my family, stay forever, insist that you feed me and my family, provide for our medical needs, provide an education my kids and last but not least sign over the deed of your house to me.

Cal Patriot wrote on Mar 26, 2006 10:12 PM:All Californians and Americans, of ALL colors, who are outraged by our broken borders and by these illegal aliens and those that shamelessly employ them... Go to NumbersUSA.com and signup to send free faxes to your politicians to tell them how outraged you are!!!

Joann wrote on Mar 26, 2006 11:25 PM:HERE EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT HOW BADLY HISPANICS ARE HURTING THIS COUNTRY AND YOU DON'T TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR TO REALIZE THE ACTUAL PERSON YOU ARE. EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE SAID SOMETHING OBSCURE AND RACIST, AND THAN YOU WONDER WHY AMERICA HASN'T MOVED FORWARD, IT'S BECAUSE OF IDIOTIC PEOPLE AS YOUR SELVES! I SAY BOYCOTT THE BUSINESSES AND SEE THE STRENGTH OF THE ECONOMY WEAKEN RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES, DON'T BE SO NAIVE, WAKE UP!

Jerry wrote on Mar 26, 2006 11:25 PM:If they are here illegally send them back to where they came from.Those who immigrated here from all round the world and built this country did it the legal way. They learned the languga and took ptide in their new country.They invested their earnings here and did not send the majority of their money back to their birth homeland.Those who are coming here illegally have no rights other than to be sent back where they came from.They come here and do not feel they have to obey our laws or learn our languga. They demand we learn their language instead. I say stop the illegals, send them all home, even the kids of illegals.Enforce the laws and our borders with as much force as needed. People wake up and smell the reality, if this illegal immigrant flow is not stopped the USA will soon be part of Mexico.If these people love Mexico as much as they say let them go back to Mexico and protest the corrupt government and change the country there.

Fool on the Hill wrote on Mar 27, 2006 1:54 AM:A cheap price for fruit is a high price to pay for the protection of national sovereignty. I am a middle-aged citizen with a BA. I've raised my own kids, done my own yard work and cleaned my own house for over 30 years. I've never once hired someone legal or illegal to do these simple things for me. Now I am planning my 2006 Victory Garden and thoroughly enjoying it. Americans aren't really as helpless as some might like to think we are. God bless the USA!

Jeff M wrote on Mar 27, 2006 8:45 AM:Why is it that people who support open borders can't get the larger picture? All they can do is throw the F bomb and scream "racist". On economic, security, cultural, educational, disease control, and a plethora of other issues, illegal immigration is SO wrong. A country has to secure it's borders or it will lose it's identity and it's economy.

Nancy wrote on Mar 27, 2006 10:46 AM:I think that you are all blaming the wrong people. The undocumented immigrants are bot to blame, the businesses and people that hire them are the ones that should be blame. If it wasnt for them they would't be able work hence there would be no reason for them to be here. Another thing, not all unodocumented immigrants are Mexicans I know that they are the majority but they are not all Mexican. Also, undocumented immigrants do contribute to our econom and in great numbers. For all of you who dont know the IRS gives undocumented immigrants TIN numbers so they can pay taxes not only that but they also pay taxes when they buy stuff and all that money goes to the state and their city which pays for schools and other things. One last thing, for those of you who think that students are getting free money your are all wrong. Undocumented stundentd dont get financial aid, they have to pay for school out of their own pocket.

JOANN wrote on Mar 27, 2006 12:39 PM:Look I understand that the border needs more security and regulations, but there are just parts of that law that are absurd. Bring the facts though- look into it and not just go by what someone is saying. This country is a melting pot for tons of cultures and ethnicities, not a single one of us don't have roots that belonged to another country. Do not call hispanics, idiots, and so on, it's ridiculous. And not all hispanics are ILLEGAL!

Sondra wrote on Mar 27, 2006 5:08 PM:Yeah from the Picture here it really looks like 200 people....more like 20. Please stop the exaggeration. These numbers are inflated just like the egos of the minutemen

Casey wrote on Mar 27, 2006 5:14 PM:Jefe well you make me sick with your horrible hate filled comments. Please don't go away mad, just go away!!!! Sounds like the 500,000 voices really got to you good buddy. They do have a right to be here and your big problem is that you can not do a thing about it.

the King wrote on Mar 27, 2006 5:51 PM:Wake Up joann! the tired and worn out mantra that this country was built on immigrants completely misses the point! If any of you bleeding heart illegal alien apologists think that this is an anti-immigrant problem you need to re-think your argument!!! If it is "Immigrants" that you are truly concerned about then you need to recognize that our system of immigration and our country of immigrants are being threatened by the flow of ILLEGAL ALIENS. There is a HUGE difference between a immigrant and a illegal alien. Any labor issues, employee protections, unemployment sanctions or workers rights are being undermined by the overwhelming tide of alien related law breakers(both employee and employer). If you are truly concerned beyond your own racial self interest then you should understand that the immigrants as well as the alien illegals are being hurt by their anonymous and illegal status. Jobs that LEGAL immigrants are entitled to are being taken by people that are willing to do "Slave Labor" for a less than sustaining living wage. These people are not only interfering with the economy and the fair wage act; they are blocking the potential for the immigrants you say you support. There is no justification for illegals other than the fact that greedy business owners and corporate whores want to re-scale the economy. Migrant workers are not the issue as much as you people want to make it the issue. Our current system allows for these so called migrant jobs to be filled by willing legal workers. Everything else is exploitation by both sides. Thats why the employers want them to stay illegal. They are virtual slaves and the American citizens are making up the difference as no one can live on these slave wages; so they are subsidized by you and me and the rest of America - why? So the few may profit. Everyone looses except the business owner. What does it take to get any of you people to look beyond your own ignorant "racial get out of jail free card" mentality? Havent you realized that in a civil society all that it does is show your ignorance. Without crying "Racist" you have no argument. Why does mexico deserve a special free pass to the front of the line just because they are poor and corrupt? There are far more deserving immigrants from worse places than a corrupt 3rd world failure of a country. Just because they snuck in doesnt give them any right to stay let alone demand changes. If they want to protest they should protest the causes that have led them to this point from within their own failed country. Why does their pride and passion sart at our border. This country has given more to the world then a thousand Mexicos combined. I am not sure how you can support the statement that America hasnt moved forward...what is that about? You need to get your head in the game if you are going to post among intelligent people. " America has not moved forward? " Where are you from and more to the point what do you consider moving forward? You are not being logical or rational. It is like trying to reason with a child or a dog? This is the Greatest country in the history of civilization and you discount it because you have a soft spot for ignorant freebie seeking lawbreakers. Is mexico and that very mentality that has not moved forward. Grow up and read a book or two for all of our sake. Start with the word entitlement.

rusty p wrote on Mar 27, 2006 8:06 PM: hate tellya,hispanics are taking over! so all you so called americans who have been hear for two hundred years,or so you act!what gose around,comes around.and somebody coming...amen

OFFENDEDamerican wrote on Mar 27, 2006 10:51 PM:READ THE FRONT PAGE- WHERE THE SENATE PASSED THE BILL- SO ALL OF YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE RACIST AGAINST HISPANICS- READ IT!

OFFENDEDamerican wrote on Mar 27, 2006 10:57 PM:TO "THE KING"- it seems like you're a wannabe journalist- who uses nctimes "add your comments" to satisfy your high ego. stereotype all you want- either way the senate is going to pass the GUESS PASS- wait didn't they already?!?! I think so- today i believe! I guess racist americans like yourself just didn't stand up to the thousands of people protesting! YOU FAILED!

Scott wrote on Mar 27, 2006 11:12 PM:What I find racist is that there are free tuition programs, social security benifits, medicare, the list of federally funded entitlements goes on, and I cannot qualify for them, because I'm not the right color or nationality. This is the true racism that pervades this nation. One quarter of my paycheck is taken by my government before I even get it. And it is redistributed to bums and drug addicts that turn around and fill the streets with crime,on my dime!!!! I for one am sick and tired of the beat whitey up and take his money attitude. Oh, and by the way

Smirking Cynic wrote on Mar 27, 2006 11:56 PM:If you white people are so upset about this (I am a white man, by the way, born in the USA) you need to get out of your SUVs, come out of your gated communities, and start screaming and yelling, just like these people (who indeed were probably mostly undocumented immigrants). 200 people sitting in a park in Temecula is JUST SAD. If you really have a stake in this, why don't YOU gather several hundred thousand people together and march to Los Angeles City Hall? Because you're fat and comfortable and lazy, that's why. I agree uncontrolled immigration from Mexico is a problem. This is a culture war, people. Yes, this country was built on immigrants, but immigrants from Russia, or England, or Germany, or China, or Japan. What's the difference? You can't drive back to Russia in a 1975 Chevy for the weekend. There's no German language TV stations in this country. My point is, in past, immigrants were forced to sink or swim, assimilate, and toss their heritage (more or less) away, and become English-speaking, culturally American, for better or worse. This is all part of The Reconquesta, people. You want to stop it? Stop hiring illegals to fix your roof, mow your lawn and raise your children.

the king wrote on Mar 28, 2006 12:57 AM:Thanks for proving my point....Racist blah blah blah...yeh yeh yeh...Just because you say so doesnt make it real..You have read one paragraph and now you know me??? How can you intuit with such depth and still miss the obvious? Matters not because my point is not intended for people like you to understand - because you DONT want to hear the truth. So dont sweat it. And FYI: yesterdays approval was just a committee to send to the floor of the senate for debate -But then again you wouldnt understand that either. Thanks again for proving my point!!!

Fusion wrote on Mar 28, 2006 3:10 AM:The founding forefathers of my country, Elbonia, looked around at the other countries (230 years ago!) and decided to created a melting pot. A commom culture was the only way to avoid a civil war (230 year ago!) LEGAL immigrants to Elbonia would melt into the Elbonian culture, by learning my Elbonian language and laws, and paying the Elbonian taxes to support the hospitals, schools, roads, and police. Unfortunately the country which shares the Elbonian 2000 mile southern border, Kneebonia, has a 40% unemployment rate, a $4/day wage, and a filthy rich 2% ruling class. In my neighboring country, Kneebonia, there is no middle class. The Kneebonians are crossing the border at an ILLEGAL rate of 300,000 a year. Kneebonians parade on my Elbonian streets, with Kneebonian flags on the hoods of their cars. Kneebonians are demanding that the Kneebonian language be taught in the very schools for which LEGAL Elbonians pay to support. It's clear that we are all pawns in a larger game - the filthy rich 2% Kneebonians have moved their civil war into Elbonia. My blessed Elbonian leadership has sold the middle class to ILLEGAL Kneebonians. I'm not racist - if I was not born here in the United States of Elbonia, I might run across the Kneebonian river in my Chinese made Brinco $12 green, white and red border sneakers, repleate with sole map and compass, with patron saint on the back. I'd declare dual citizenship, sending most of my wages back to Kneebonia, so that my family might someday join in my plunder of the Elbonian middle class. I would simply be reclaiming the Atzat-bonian lands taken by the Elbonian infidels. Viva la Raza-bonia! WHO IS THE RACIST? THE KING? OFFENDED AMMERICAN? JOANN? None of the above? The 2% Kneebonian ruling class has displaced their revolution into Elbonia. The Elbonian Congress have been purchased to ignore the multi-culture economic situation - lets watch while Northern Ireland, Kosevo, Northern Iraq and the Pakistan-India problems are now on our soil, for us to deal with. You can't have two cultures competing for the same land. Death ensues.

DukeItOut wrote on Mar 28, 2006 3:31 AM:How does the "at risk" en masse registered voters (not!) suddenly sum to a meaningful policy voice?

TheKing wrote on Mar 28, 2006 5:38 AM:Thanks for proving my point....Racist blah blah blah...yeh yeh yeh...Just because you say so doesnt make it real..You have read one paragraph and now you know me??? How can you see so deep yet miss the obvious. Matters not because my point is not intended for people like you to understand - because you DONT want to hear the truth. So dont sweat it. And FYI: yesterdays approval was just a committee to send to the floor of the senate for debate -But then again you wouldnt understand that either. Thanks again for proving my point!!!

Dave wrote on Mar 28, 2006 11:03 AM:Smirking Cynic: We have jobs we have to go to.

offending American wrote on Mar 28, 2006 3:33 PM:Hey Offended...what is a Guess Pass? Is that where the INS tries to guess how many millions of cockroaches have passed thru our borders? Pretty Brilliant. Keep up the good work...our side needs people like you on the opposition. Good for you!

james wrote on Mar 30, 2006 7:40 PM:Latinos for illegal immigration plan to boycott schools on May 1st? Please, is this a joke? As if this will send a message? Yea, the message will be a savings to the taxpayers to the tune of millions, as emergency rooms, welfare lines, free food services and less theft goes on. Yea, go ahead. Walk out. Do us a favor.

Donald wrote on Apr 16, 2006 12:44 AM:We need to say this: WE ARE NOT REPSONSIBLE FOR THE FAILED POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC SYSTEMS IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON THIS EARTH... For those of us that have lived and worked in foreign countries...Japan, China, my FM3 Mexican Visa to satisfy NAFTA rules and conduct business with the maquiladoras in Tecate and Mexicali...the truth is illegal aliens know how to scam--live off the system--and don't have the balls to rise up in their own countries...ENOUGH!!!

FED UP CITIZEN wrote on Apr 18, 2006 4:05 PM:MAY FIRST Show the illegals and their sympathizers we don't care if they boycott. CITIZENS: GO SHOPPING, EAT OUT, CUT YOUR OWN LAWN, AND SPEND MONEY IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY THAT DAY. Parking should be great and we will be able to shop without having to listen to Spanish and put up with screaming little ill mannered kids running wild. Then make a vow to NOT hire illegals anymore (I am doing my own lawn), and DO NOT spend a penny visiting Mexico. If you are called a bigot, pay no attention. That is the new "buzz word" designed to make you feel as if you are doing something wrong. Check your representatives voting records then vote the ones who do not vote in the interest of the United States OUT!

hilder wrote on Nov 15, 2006 3:20 PM:this is dumb.. every one really doesnt c the real issue mexicans are hardworking and americans want everything given to them in thier hand thats why no one can get nothing solved around here because those who care.... aren't carinf for the proper subject

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