Al wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:15 PM:Ya baby, let's do it! We need this, NOW!

Tom wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:19 PM:Now's the time for all good citizens to come to aid of their city. Support Marie Waldron on this issue.

Way to Go! wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:21 PM:Marie! A woman after my own heart! Finally a person in the political arena with some SENSE and the intestinal fortitude to back it up!

Cudos! wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:32 PM:This is NOT a law refusing to rent based on RACE: it is a law refusing to rent based on LEGAL/ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION STATUS! Landlords already charge prospective renters a fee to run a credit report - charge one to run a Social Security check, too - turnaround time usually 2-3 days. This is totally feasible! To stay within the non-descrimination parameters - run one on everybody.

Robert24 wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:33 PM:First of all, right on Councilwoman Waldron. You have had, and will have, my vote again this fall. For the life of me I cannot understand how anybody can find fault in this. An ordinance that flies in the face of state and federal fair housing, says Mr. Pinnegar. Sir, these are illegal aliens. There are no rights for illegal aliens. How hard is that to understand?! Again, thank you Ms. Waldron. Let's only hope that you are re-elected and can bring some sense and justice back to Escondido.

Daren wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:46 PM:Marie Waldron should run for State Assembly and Governor!!

ugh wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:52 PM:Marie Waldron is a sham. If she really cared about cracking down on illegal immigration she would propose an ordinance to fine Escondido EMPLOYERS who hire illegal immigrants. Where is that ordinance, Marie? Do you think people come here illegally to rent cruddy apartments in Escondido? Nope. They come here to WORK. And until these so-called anti-illegal immigration folks push for a crackdown on illegal EMPLOYERS, they will just be showing themselves for what they really are -- shams who take the easy road of playing on voters' fears and beating up on people who are in no position to defend themselves. This kind of ordinance is way too easy. Waldron is exactly like Wyland, the guy she is trying to replace -- putting out easy, scratch-the-surface immigration proposals that win the votes of the shallow but don't do anything to address the real problem: BUSINESSES that EMPLOY illegal immigrants! Developers, farmers, the downtown restaurants -- create an ordinance that targets them if they hire illegal workers. Oops, I forgot, those are the people who are paying for Waldron's campaign. What a crock. Supporters of an immigration crackdown should force people like Waldron to take a stand against businesses that hire illegal workers. Add an amendment like that to this rent proposal and I'll support it. But any proposal that doesn't impose tougher fines on businesses is nothing but a sham to win votes. Support an immigration crackdown? Then demand more from people like Waldron. Don't let her play you for fools.

North County wrote on Jul 8, 2006 10:57 PM:Now if only the cities of Oceanside and Vista could do this!

Ray wrote on Jul 8, 2006 11:29 PM:In the article... "State and federal fair housing laws prohibit landlords from refusing to rent to anyone based on several categories, including race, religion and national origin". what they fail to mention is that the "national origin" means legal residents. If someone from Kenya here legally applied for a rental and was denied, that would be against the law. Landlords now can deny someone a rental if the person has a criminal record or violates the law while residing in the rental unit. Folks, read your leases and rental agreements. The City of Escondido is "well within" it's authority to restrict or set regulations on landlords through business licenses which ALL landlords must have. The key word here is "legal". Marie, good job!

mac wrote on Jul 9, 2006 12:13 AM:Bravo! I'll definitely vote for you in the next election Marie Waldron! Thanks!

Larry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 1:22 AM:The mearsure must also contain provisions for financing enforcement. And there needs to be a measure for reporting to immigration and border patrol those illegal and fraudulent applicants. Grrr. Put some teeth into it, baby!

huh? wrote on Jul 9, 2006 1:33 AM:How will this curb immigration? I don't get it. Yeah let's have these people living in the streets instead of paying rents. great idea. Lets make the landlords and local businesses suffer. Unless all of san diego county adops something similar this it won't stop the flow of immigrants. How will it help improve these neighborhoods? In most of these neghborhoods the career criminals, the gang-bangers and dealers, are born US citizens. (would mind being able to kick that trash out fo the country) But illegal immigrants risk getting deported when they are caught breaking the law. They have the most to loose, they are here to work as much as they can and stay under the radar. By the way whose is going to move into these neighborhoods where 'illegals' get evicted, just curious? Going to have to do better than that to find a solution.

ughII wrote on Jul 9, 2006 2:30 AM:This is political grandstanding at it's worst. I wouldn't vote for Marie for dog catcher. After being slapped down by the voters in the Assembly race, she needs to find another knee-jerk issue to keep her name in the news. Maybe another photo-op with the Minutemen? I'm steadfastly anti-illegal invasion but let's get real. How many illegals do you think apply for rentals on their own?

ughII wrote on Jul 9, 2006 2:37 AM:The analogy that first comes to mind is that of an underage kid looking to buy alcohol: you don't go into the store yourself; you send in a legal friend. It is a system that is way too easy to beat. All sound and fury, signifying nothing. Next great idea, anyone? To be clear, one legal resident can probably score an apartment for a multitude.

Stinky Sanchez's wrote on Jul 9, 2006 6:34 AM:Ssssswwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettt!!!!God Bless Her! Marie for President

Seems Obvious wrote on Jul 9, 2006 6:52 AM:Seems obvious that this should have been a part of the law a LONG time ago. "Illegal" means just that... shouldn't be here! So, why do we create a safe haven for people who choose not to live by the laws of the land?! Seems obvious Marie Waldron is on the right track and that A LOT of people will support her endeavors! She's got my vote! Now, let's work to get past all this other red tape involved and staff it. If we can dedicate $1million of City money to get rid of Graffiti we can dedicate some funds to clean up our Illegal problems! Seems obvious...

Volunteer wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:00 AM:I can recruit a legion of community volunteers who would be willing to assist the City to monitor this program.

No Discrimination wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:08 AM:Every rental applicant would be asked to show proof of legal residency! Just like job applicants. There is no discrimination with that. David Kline is just making menacing legal arguments to scare the landlords into opposing the ordinance.

Clay Bak2OC wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:11 AM:Apparently Clay Phillips is opposed to this measure. He should take his BMW back to the OC and stay there! Else, he should OPENLY run for Marie's City Council position.

Realist wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:44 AM:ugh is correct regarding the need to crackdown on employers that hire illegal aliens, but we need to be realistic and be receptive to any proposals that support anti-illegal immigration. We have so many liberal politicians that anti-illegal immigrant supports really don't have much choice but to support ANY anti-illegal aliens proposals, regardless of circumstance. Kudos to Marie Waldron for this one proposal. Let's support her on this and hope she follows through with further actions.

eureka wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:48 AM:Expanding the idea to business space rentals might eliminate half the tenants at the biggest blighted business and area of crime in Escondido. Hmmm.

El Guero wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:58 AM:Hold your fire there, ugh. I agree that employers who hire illegals also should be punished, but as Waldron sees it, this could be 'the first piece of a patchwork of potential local immigration laws that could include making English the official city language, among other elements.' Deny illegals living space in the city and they'll be forced to move on and become someone else's problem (and that someone else will be pressured to propose the same kind of initiative). In the meantime, Escondido gets some relief from overcrowding and poverty. What's wrong with that? What's really objectionable is the resistance from shiftless city bureaucrats like city manager Clay Phillips who says, 'We don't have the resources to try to monitor every single rental agreement in the city at this point.' What nonsense. According to a recent NCT report on a study of the Mission Park area commissioned by the city, 'Improving living conditions in the central Escondido area has long been a priority for the city, which in recent years has spent roughly $4 million on more social services in the neighborhood.' I'd say City Manager Clay Phillips is the 'sham,' not Waldron.

American Idiot wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:05 AM:Illegal immigration is a national problem that should be addressed at the national level. Escondido Councilwoman Marie Waldron is, simply put, a political opportunist. Perhaps if she spent more of her energy serving her hometown, Escondido would no longer earn its reputation as the armpit of North County.

Back at Ugh wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:08 AM:I bet that you are first to get all foamy in mouth yelling 'profiling' and 'racism' when the Feds crack down on employers and illegals with fake documents at the businesses. Perhaps you did not know it, but there are already laws against hiring illegal immigrants. But people like you get totally bent out of shape when those laws are enforced! Current laws make it a criminal misdemeanor for an alien to fail to register with the Federal Government, and to fail to notify the Federal Government with 10 days of a change of address. Let's enforce those laws. Oh no! You just want to enforce the laws you want enforced (against businesses), and to ignore the laws that you do not like (registration of all aliens in the US). You are the fool if you oppose enforcement of these existing laws on registration and change of address. Those are crimes, and each illegal immigrant living in Escondido without complying with these existing Federal laws are now criminals.

JayGee wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:10 AM:I find all of your views to be very simplistic. You treat people like dirt, hold no regard for people, and get overly excited on a topic that is already in place. Landlords run credit reports on their tenants using social security numbers. Cudos, don't you understand that a SS# is te only way to differentiate people with the same name? I'm sure I'll see some of you at the local Home Depot protesting day laborers while your children are at home being taken care of by an immigrant. I'm sure you'll join a protest after the work on your house is done and you've voted to "not rent to illegals." What hipocrites.

Ugh wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:26 AM:I would absolutely be supportive of ICE raids on businesses as long as they involve fines for businesses as well as penalties for the workers. Waldron is right that we have a terrible illegal immigration and illegal employment problem in this region. I'm just tired of politicians who treat their voters like idiots instead of dealing with the real problem. We pay Marie Waldron to come up with real solutions, and instead she throws us something that does nothing to address the root causes. There can be no meaningful immigration reform without employment restrictions that ARE ACTUALLY ENFORCED! Sure there are laws about employing illegal workers. You know how many businesses were fined under those laws last year? Less than 50 in the whole United States. You know why? Same reason Bush refuses to do anything about employers. Because they pay for pro-business conservatives like Waldron to get elected! Waldron depends on businesses to fund her campaign. The question is, if she is so against illegal immigration, is she going to have the backbone to propose extra enforcement of employment laws in the city? Maybe refuse to allow permits for any business that hasn't proven all of their employers are legal? We need to demand this of her. If she'll do it, and jeopardize her own campaign by putting pressure on the hands that feed her, more power to her. If not, well, she's just another opportunist pandering to the lowest common denominator for votes.

Steve wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:32 AM:I find it interesting that Mr. Phillips, the City Manager is offering legal advice. My understanding is that he isn't an attorney and that in any case Escondido has a City Attorney. His "can't do" attitude may put him in the running for bureaucrat of the year. The typical bureaucratic stand that he gets paid for showing up for work and anything additional would require added funds, may cement the award. That he gets paid almost $250,000 per year to have such a negative attitude only adds to his bureaucratic credentials. It is no wonder that that Escondido has so many problems when its top administrative official has such a negative attitude.

FYI wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:37 AM:Properly named American Idiot, illegal immigration is a local problem because local citizens are adversely affected by it. Globalist Bush and the Feds aren't getting the job done, and never will. The reason: the North American Union, the open-borders merging of Canada, Mexico and your America, coming to you in 2010. See www.eagleforum.org for information on SPP and NAU. Marie Waldron has it right, keep chipping away at illegal immigration, one local law at a time. Next, like Vista, register employers hiring day workers.

Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:40 AM:Ugh: You indeed have it all figured out. You make perfect sense and cut through all the crap from Waldron and Bilbray and those who seek to capitalize on a real problem by pandering to xenophobia, ethnocentricity and thinly veiled racism.

Mark wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:43 AM:My guess is that most landlords would love this law. Having ten to fifteen people from third world countries in each apartment must trash the place. The associated violence and drug use can only lower the value of the apartments. The Police are uncomfortable going into these projects due to the tenants. Imagine what it is like to collect the rent. In areas with lots of apartments the landlords are stuck renting to illegals because there is already a high illegal presence in other complexes. The landlords could get the same rent from a better set of tenants if all of them could reject illegals based on this law. The value of the apartment complexes would rise and the value of the surrounding houses would likely rise even more. Our children who are just starting out in life could live in Escondido in reasonably priced apartments in their hometown. Today they are driven to other areas since many of the local apartment complexes are so undesirable. It seems like, win, win, win.

Drilldown wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:53 AM:Bravisimo Marie Waldron! It is precisely because of your courage, integrity and honor that you are so favored by thousands of area residents. Here is a politician that shows true LEADERSHIP and is willing to go out on a plank for her principles. How refreshing is that! BTW, Mayor Baretta of Hazelton, PA has been on many TV/radio shows and is receiving virtually total and monolithic support for his common sense, anti illegal alien/rule of law proposals. Escondido's Mayor Lori Holt Pfeiler, on the other hand, is part of the problem or disease. It is, for the most part, because of her pro illegal alien policies over the yrs that Escondido now has a countywide reputation for being a mini Tijuana replete w/viscious Latino gangs, frequent stabbings, murders, rapes, lowest per capita income in the county, gross overcrowding in apartments, lots of subsidized housing, and some of the worst schools in the state and nation. Mayor Pfeiler has made Escondido a sanctuary city for illegal aliens and their criminal activities, much to the dismay and horror of law abiding, tax paying citizens. Mayor Pfeiler is a cancer that is destroying our once safe and beautiful community. Mayor Baretta and Councilwoman Waldron are the cure. Vote Pfeiler out this November! She's done enough damage, and we citizens can no longer afford her dangerous ways.

loving it wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:53 AM:Marie Waldron, I wish you were on the city council in San Marcos. We need people like you to stand up for our city and to keep it clean and honest. I support you 100%!

Heads up wrote on Jul 9, 2006 9:10 AM:I wrote Home Depot about their connection with La Raza they told me they support diversification. *I* will not be shopping at Home Depot EVER again!!!!

AlegalAlien wrote on Jul 9, 2006 9:17 AM:Finally, someone in Esondido who sees that it is going to be a myriad of measures that will have to be taken to denegrate the city's status as a mecca for illegals! Yes, we need to prohibit 10 families from living in a rental designed for one. Yes, we need to fine employers who hire illegals. With no place to live and work, their children won't be overcrowding our schools. The EUHSD won't have to consider floating a huge bond measure to build more schools at property tax paying citizen expense. Yes, we can clean up the grafitti in the hopes that the guests will flock to our beautiful new hotel, but we have to do more. The city has to attack the problem at the roots, one local law at a time to slowly make Escondido an unwelcome place for illegal immigrants to both live and work. Instead of spending 4 million taxpayer dollars on social services in Mission Park that has done nothing to improve the neighborhood, allocate those funds toward setting up a method by which property managers and landlords can determine the legal status of those who apply for their rentals!

Jeff wrote on Jul 9, 2006 9:33 AM:This will be interesting. Council Member Newman appears to be far on the Left. His vote on the California Border Patrol initiative was NO and was accompanied by rhetoric which inferred that all the police, CHP's and sheriffs in San Diego County were, Keystone Kops. The Mayor said that even thinking about illegal immigration is not my job, and voted NO. Council Member Waldron is clearly taking the lead. Perhaps she should run for Mayor this time around – someone certainly should run whose goals and objectives are more clearly aligned with the voters than the Mayor’s. Clearly the current Mayor is out of touch with the wishes of the legal citizens of Escondido on this and other issues. The two individuals who have to step-up on this issue are Council Member Abed and Mayor Pro Tem Gallo. The article makes it sound like Mr. Abed is a supporter. His criteria that existing, legal residents be helped are the chief reasons for implementing this proposal as well as future proposals. We can hope that Mr. Gallo will back this and other proposals. It is time to be decisive and not hide behind potential problems (those always exist). It is one of those times for leadership and bold action which don’t occur very often – a real opportunity for those in public office to make the right decisions on key, tough issues which really affect the community.

ILLEGAL = ILLEGAL wrote on Jul 9, 2006 9:37 AM:ILLEGAL immigrant is MUCH different than just plain old "immigrant". Seems like a lot of people are still not clear on that... so they say we 'hold no regard' for the immigrants. It's the ILLEGAL immigrants that need to follow the 'laws of the land'. We are all descendants of immigrants - that's not the issue at hand.

Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:23 AM:Illegal = illegal, yes, we are decendants of immigrants, but after our families achieved the American dream they started passing restrictive immigration laws to make sure others don't have the same access. Most of these new restrictions were passed after 1900 and were specifically designed to give Northern European immigrants preference.

Proud of my background wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:27 AM:Marie Waldron is a racist and hypocrite. How would she feel if her Irish ancestors had been treated the same way she treats the Latino community?

Proud of my background wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:29 AM:Marie Waldron is a racist and hypocrite. How would she feel if her Irish immigrant ancestors had been trated the same way she treats the Latino community?

Dennis wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:47 AM:If landlords are forced to check the citizenship of ALL prospective renters, the arguement of racial bias goes out the window. A density law that limits the number of persons that can reside in a dwelling based on bedroom count would also be helpful, as well as requiring that all inhabitants be listed on the lease. This problem didn't occur overnight, and it will take many small steps like this to remediate.

mj wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:55 AM:i lived in a township where you had to register your drivers licenses and vehicle license numbers for each and every occupant, oakhurst, nj in the township of ocean

mj wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:56 AM:these driver checks say it all, each time they arrest unlicensed drivers and tow unlicensed vehicles, i don't understand how come unlicensed vehicles get by day to day

Robroy wrote on Jul 9, 2006 11:19 AM:To Volunteer, I am willing to donate time to the legal work that may be needed to draft, revise, or evaluate a proposed ordinance. Also, I wonder how Attorney David Kline can form a legal opinion about a ordinance that the City has yet to draft.

To huh wrote on Jul 9, 2006 11:37 AM: Illegals are overflowing are prisons dude. Check out the article where Arnold is looking to sign contracts to send 5,000 illegal immigrants who are over flowing are prison system's, and sending them to other states to house them because are prison system is overflowing with illegals. So your theory about illegals have to much to lose by commiting crime is not true. What about the 1 who was shot and killed in Vista? Wake up!! Thats the problem with most that support illegals and think they are just hardworking individuals, but your wrong read your paper or go visit one of there many camps where most are involved in criminal activity. Why is it we deport so many back? Its not like the border patrol goes to day labor sites. For the most part illegals are left alone but the ones who commit crimes are deported and then come right back. Do you see the problem now!!!!!

Bill wrote on Jul 9, 2006 11:42 AM:Jeff, I expect Waldron, Gallo, and Abed to support a measure like this. Newman will vote whatever the police organizations recommend. The Mayor is expected to try to sabotage the measure. Since it is apparent that the Mayor already has the City Manager on board against this, it is likely just a matter of time before the City Attorney opines that this is illegal. The timing of this proposal is great. Waldron, Newman, and the Mayor are up for reelection this fall. Illegal immigration is a hot button political issue this year and Newman and the Mayor will need to take a side. The Mayor is a big supporter of Congressman Brian Bilbray and his key issue has been illegal immigration. He is also up for reelection this fall. It would be great for Congressman Bilbray to support a Federal law prohibiting renting to illegals. Now that would be comprehensive immigration reform! In the meantime, it is time for Congressman Bilbray to take a stand on this issue of renting homes to illegal aliens in his district!

A wonderful place for illegals to live wrote on Jul 9, 2006 11:56 AM:How about putting a moritorium on 99 cent stores and thrift shops? Maybe then the illegals won't have a place to shop too. Escondido is well known all over Mexico as one of the best places to hide out and take advantage of America's hospitality. The name alone of our city in Espanol means hidden as in hide out or hide away. In Escondido you can live, shop, send your kids to the public schools for free and they will even teach them Spanish. If you are a single mom you can even collect welfare and not have to work outside of your home. There are plenty of apartments with swimming pools and parks for your children. And your children can have a free lunch and breakfast at any public school. Just make sure you give labor on the U.S. side of the border. Escondido is a paradise for illegals. Wouldn't you agree? Perhaps things would be different if Escondido could attract legal Americans to live, shop and play in a beautiful city that just got a movie theater. Escondido use to be a place where people retired or came to raise a family. Unfortunately it is now known as the best place to be an illegal immigrant or raise a family if you are an illegal immigrant. Escondido is the Roswell, Texas for illegal aliens. Can the mayor and city council do a better job of attracting businesses and developments that do not take advantage of the illegals? Maybe then Escondido can become a desirable place to live for the those of that called it our home town.

Escondido Local wrote on Jul 9, 2006 12:04 PM:Is the City of Escondido going to create a document verification service for landlords? I rent a small house I own, I do not want to violate any laws, but I am not an expert on faked Social Security cards!

Outstanding Work wrote on Jul 9, 2006 12:39 PM:I applaud Waldron's courage too. Something has to be done, and you have to start somewhere. There are way too many apartment complexes in Esco, chocked full of multiple illegal immigrants crammed together. Poverty breeds crime, and it's evidenced by the tons of disgusting Hispanic graffiti all over Esco. While someone wrote that it's the U.S. born kids doing this, what they are missing is that there are many, many parents of these kids who are here illegally, and just haven't been caught yet. Take your blinders off, folks. I wonder how many illegals the INS and Border Patrol could collar in the vicinity of Washington Ave & Quince St, where the predominantly Mexican swap meet flurries with activity several days a week. You can't tell me that all of these folks who frequent that venue are legally documented. No way!!

ok.. wrote on Jul 9, 2006 12:59 PM:Go for it girl..! but there is also another problem that we have to discuss here why does some car dealers sell cars to people who doesnt have a California Driver's license or why some insurance companies give insurance to people who present a license from another country ?? i guess she needs to see that as well and do something to fine those companies too..

Scarlet Letter wrote on Jul 9, 2006 2:00 PM:Hey Marie, why not ask Tom Metzger to move to Escondido. Start passing out jack boots and black shirts. How about wearing symbols on our shirts indicating our ethnic or religious preferences? Go ahead Marie, and get some more free press while you still can.

Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 2:20 PM:The rampant racism takes on biblical proportions, "....for there was no room for them in the inn..." it is clear that if Jesus came into Escondido and even looked Mexican... there are many, including Marie Waldron, who would turn him away. I just hope that He might get lucky and run into a Samaratan. It is odd that in a community that is so incensed over the Soledad Cross, you can't get an amen for "even as you did it unto the least of these you did it unto me". Christianity could be a beautiful thing if it weren't for the damn Christians.

Times are changin wrote on Jul 9, 2006 3:29 PM:The center of Escondido is the illegal alien mecca of North County... I wonder why Miss Waldron did not think there was a problem before the illegal immigration debate became the flavor of the month? The city has had no problem supporting social services that cater to the illegals... offering English classes??? They already exist through adult education. Escondido needs to improve the quality of life for the legal citizens by assuring the K-12 schools are the best. Keeping our streets safe and clean. Escondido has become a illegal mecca thanks to our city council. It is time for new blood and ideas to lead our city out of this hole.

DrilldownDeeper wrote on Jul 9, 2006 3:58 PM:Thank you for the reminder on ultra liberal Esc Councilman, Ron Neuman. We've seen him in action at many Council mtgs and he is a danger to the welfare of our community and our citizenry just as Esc Mayor Pfeiler is. You can frequently count on these two corrupt politicians to do the wrong thing for the legal, tax paying citizens of Escondido. Pfeiler and Neuman represent all that is wrong with the tragedy of the illegal alien invasion. They are, in point of fact, sponsors, sympathizers and facilitators of this viral like miasma that has taken root in Esc and the rest of No. County. They have to go out this November! These blogs reveal the great anger, frustration and rage many citizens feel towards this alien invasion and those politicians, like Neuman and Pfeiler, who, through omission or comission, aid and abett it. Enough is Enough!!! We need more people like Waldron. Please!

Oh, I'm just wild about Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 3:58 PM:hey Harry, the quality of life you enjoy was made possible by EUROPEAN immigrants (aka 'settlers'), not mezoamercians. Sorry to disappoint! We are children of the Enlightenment. Ever heard of that? That's OK, I don't expect you would. But please feel free to pay my share of the social costs for all the 'cheap labor' that's contributing so much to our economy.

Back at Scarlet Letter wrote on Jul 9, 2006 4:03 PM:Why not give California back to the Mexicans and La Raza? The US stole it from them in 1848 after an unjust war of conquest. The Brown Berets are ready to start the cleasing of the white Europeans. Scalet Letter is afraid of civil discussion on a difficult topic. Mexican racism by the ruling elite IN MEXICO! The United States has become a safety value for the failure of Mexico to educate and care for its people. By crossing the border, an illegal immigrant magically becomes ten times more productive in economic terms. However, the safetly value is now broken, the compasionate care for a disadvantage people has become an invasion because preachers of hate in the Chicango community are teaching lies and fables to these new immigrants. The re-mexicanization of California is based on fables of past wrongdoings. California does not belong to illegal immigrants. The US President is not secretly paying rent to the Mexican President for the unjust occupation of Aztlan! Connecting Marie to Tom Metzger is like tying you to Armando Narvarro and his group's attack in San Bernardino!

Back at Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 4:04 PM:So the Federal laws against illegal immigration are unchristian?

To proud of my background wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:24 PM:The Irish were treated like crap when they tried to enter here.

To Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:26 PM:You wouldn't by any chance be an illegal and an atheist would you?

Armpit!! wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:31 PM:I thought Vista was the armpit of North County.

American woman wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:37 PM:I'm so sick of all these whining PC men in our local (and Federal) government! God forbid that an intelligent woman jump into the fray with a viable concept. "Oh meeee, oh myyyyyy ...Whatever will we do without our illeeeeegals? I neeeeeeeed my slave. You can't take him/her away from meeeeee!" Pardon me while I lose my lunch. Why is it so difficult to grasp the concept of I-L-L-E-G-A-L????????? Go Marie.

American Woman wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:44 PM:obviuosly your not a wealthy American. If you lived in Rancho Santa Fe you would understand. But since your middle class, you care.

Jim wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:52 PM:The police are in these apartments with multiple illegals almost everyday. Make a system where they could report such conditions to whoever is going to enforce it. Sounds like a great idea!

Harry wrote on Jul 9, 2006 5:58 PM:To Harry: You wondered if I were an illegal and an atheist. No. My family arrived in this country in the early 1700's and since the mid 1800's the primary professions have been ministers and seminarians and educators.

Encinitas Native wrote on Jul 9, 2006 6:18 PM:Way to go! Let's support Marie ... I knew it was going to happen to ban illegals to rent apartments in the North County area. I'm looking forward to this November election.

to Jay Gee wrote on Jul 9, 2006 6:21 PM: SHUT UP! Are you an illegal? Do you pay taxes? Do you have medical insurance? Or how about you go to any of are social services. Why are there idiots like you even commenting here. If your so smart why don't you come up with a plan that best supports us LEGAL AMERICANS. Why does are govenor have to send 5,000 illegal immigrants who are planted in our prison system to other states to make room for our overcrowded prisons? Oh thats right only hard hitttin workers that are illegals are here. B.S. they are not only desperate, they are thugs as well. Get rid of illegals and there supporters because you are worthless to this beautiful country. SO GET OUT!!!!!!!!!

Encinitas girl wrote on Jul 9, 2006 6:34 PM:Let's give a 30-day notice to the illegal immigrant tenants. BRAVO!

Scarlett Letter wrote on Jul 9, 2006 6:53 PM:Heck, let's bring back bannishment. It worked so well in the 1600s. If one doesn't agree with the ruling figures/church, then simply bannish them. There would be less dissent, and fewer of these troubling comments. Then Escondido would be free to hate with impunity any who disagreed or were the wrong color. Let's change the name of the city while we're at it. Isn't Escondido Spanish for something? Maybe Savannah would work. Cut down all the avacado trees, they came from Mexico.

Dear Landlord wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:12 PM:I'm sure the taxpayers in Escondido will ante up more money to pay for the rental police. Figure a couple hundred per parcel, they can put that to a vote, and spend thousands defending it in court. While they're at it, have code enforcement check every parcel for illegal units, unreported incomes from those units, and then turn them in to the IRS. What a wonderful community to come home to: safe, but with much smaller profit margins.

The Found Valley wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:41 PM:Next agenda item on Miss Waldron's list is to change the name of Escondido since it Spanish and English will now be the official language of the city to Found by Illegals and Those who Take Advantage of Them or Hate Them. It is long but so are all the streets with Spanish names. And the next law should be to fine any person eating at all those little Mexican taco shops or fast food joint that employees all the illegals too. Stick to bringing real jobs and improving the quality of life for legal citizens Miss Waldron. You would have more credibility. Demand the federal government do its job too. As city officials the council needs to be breathing down the federal governments back to enforce laws that are not being enforced like penalizing businesses that employ illegals. Hold the federal government accountable as elected city officials. The illegals are here because of the social services the city and federal provide on a silver platter. Life is good for the illegals in Escondido and the rest of America. No need to learn English or take care of yourself or your children if taxpayers are so willing to elect politicians who continue to give handouts and false promises instead of enforcing the laws.

To Encinitas Native and Encinitas Girl wrote on Jul 9, 2006 7:56 PM:Why don't you ask Christie Guerin to do the same in Encinitas? She works for Bilbray now, and certainly will want to clean up Encinitas. Perhaps they could change the name of that town too. Bilbray's so far voted a pay raise for himself and supported off-shore drilling. Not much flag waving about immigration now that he's in office.

El Jefe wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:33 PM:It's about time! Let's pass this now! Illegal immigration contributes significantly to the fact that Escondido leads the County as one of the most impoverished areas of San Diego. Too bad the Fed's don't jump in with some support & guidelines nationwide. Maybe a National I.D. Card & Driver License isn't so far fetched.

Re-Mexicanize CA? wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:35 PM:Change the name of Grant Middle School to Escuela La Mision. Change the name of Washington Avenue to Avenida Chavez. Everyone opposed to these changes is a racist! All silly positions. Illegal immigrants are forcing our children out of the community to Riverside County or out of state. This has got to stop! Do we hate them? No. Do we want the law enforced? Yes! Do we want more effective laws created? Yes! Are immigration laws immoral? No! Thank you Marie Waldron for your courage and leadership!

Pat wrote on Jul 9, 2006 8:58 PM:Trying to control illegal immigration by employer sanctions has not worked. Stiff employer sanctions were implemented in 1986 and the problem is worse that ever. Why have employer sanctions failed? First, the pay of an illegal immigrant is low. A small employer can afford to forgo expensing the pay of the illegal immigrant. Much employment is off the books. Since there is an inadequate paper trail, law enforcement would need implement 24 hour surveillance of a known illegal immigrant to prove employment. Since most illegal immigrants work a job for just a short time period, effective enforcement is virtually impossible. Housing is a different matter. Right now, just about every canyon and pepper tree in the County has an illegal immigrant encampment. Those here for several years finally find housing in an apartment by sharing expenses with several other illegal immigrants. The apartment requires a relatively long commitment--at least a month--often 6 months or more. Effective enforcement can take place anytime during that time period. Having enforcement related to housing may be much more effective in enforcing policies against illegal immigration. Every new program will have unforeseen issues that may need to be addressed in the future. The program to prevent renting to illegal immigrants will be no different. A sub-optimal program is better than the current totally ineffective program.

I'm with Pat wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:07 PM:I agree with Pat. I would like to see the law imposed for all renters. How about a national photo i.d. card for all legal citizens and residents to be used for jobs, buying and renting homes, getting a drivers license, applying for credit, electric bill, water bill,...? There would be no way around this law unless your where slumlord which many of the owners of apartments on Mission and Washington have become over the years.

El Jefe wrote on Jul 9, 2006 11:01 PM:Wake-up friends & lets try & do something we can all be proud of & support! All I hear are the negatives about how difficult & impossible it is to do anything & the fear of being branded racist,etc. Let's try & appeal to reason to both sides of this issue. Both the citizens & the illegals are expecting our communities to continue to do nothing as we have in the past. We have chosen to ignore this deteriorating situation for too many years. If we continue to sit on our hands this problem will explode beyond repair & ultimately our neighborhoods & property values will suffer & then the race riots will come as they have in other cities in the USA. The word is out all across the county, state & nation about Escondido's problems, & soon, if we're not careful, we will resemble San Ysidro. Who wants that? Whether Waldron is grandstanding or not, the fact is that few politicians are stepping up to the plate with any ideas in this regard. It seems everytime this subject of "illegal immigration" comes up all politicians run for cover or try to please both sides. I'm still angry about Busby being allowed to suggest its ok for "illegals" to help her get elected. Where's the outcry? We try to sugar coat these tough issues, we try to be civil, but so far I don't see any positive change in Escondido or the rest of the beautiful North County except negative change. Reality is that Escondido, Vista, Oceanside, etc are being allowed to get uglier by the second. Maybe the Spanish name (Hidden Valley) is more appropriate than first thought & it should stay "hidden". Unless we the citizens make our feelings known nothing will ever get done & we will get what we deserve. The local politicians are in hiding & the national politicians are in continuing do-nothing discussions hoping to compromise themselves out of difficulty. Do something!! Can you imagine our early pioneers coming back to life & seeing what a mess we have allowed this to become?

To Brown Berets and La Raza wrote on Jul 10, 2006 8:04 AM:Get over it California does not belong to Mexico. Find something else to complain about. Why not go back to Mexico since you are so proud and clean Mexico up. Am I a racist or prejudice of course not...I am American of Mexican descent and brown, but I owe nothing to Mexico. The only thing I have from there was my grandparents and they were smart enough to leave in the early 1900's. They worked hard and went by the laws of the country. Your hatred for the white is what keeps prejudice alive and the young American Mexicans down with their hatred.

escoresident wrote on Jul 10, 2006 8:35 AM:GO BACK TO MEXICO!!!!

Peter Pan wrote on Jul 10, 2006 9:02 AM:Reform, reform, reform! Everything the gov't is involved in is in a constant state of breakdown and reform. Hear this. We don't need immigration reform. We don't need any more laws. What we need is enforcement of existing laws. That's all. The fine for landlords is a good idea, but we have countless laws, statutes and ordinances that are not being currently enforced. Marie Waldron is a leader in our community. We need more politicians like her. Marie should be Mayor of Escondido because the current one, Lori Pfeiler,is corrupt and inept and has done great harm to Escondido because of her support of illegal aliens and public housing; she's also soft on crime and has allowed illegal aliens to ruin our schools. Pfeiler and councilmember, Ron Newman are part of the problem.

Vista John wrote on Jul 10, 2006 9:09 AM:Every Apartment I have rented in San Diego County, since I moved here in 1997, asked me for my divers license and copies of my last three pay stubs. Were they breaking the law for asking me for this information? Should I have contacted the ACLU and turned them in? Just what are the laws for renting in California?

To: To HuH wrote on Jul 10, 2006 9:25 AM:"Its not like the border patrol goes to day labor sites. For the most part illegals are left alone but the ones who commit crimes are deported and then come right back. Do you see the problem now!!!!!" Please the day laborers are NOT left alone they are verbally abused and harassed by the neo-nazi group aka the minutemen. I am all for deporting criminals who are here illegally but I am against causing people to suffer just because they are presumed to be here illegally. I do hire the day laborers and I will continue to hire them. They are trustworthy, hardworking, honest men. I don't think there is a minuteman out there who can do or will do the work these day laborers do. They did a a beautiful job on my yard. All my friends were impressed with the amazing detail they put into their work and they are also going to hire them. I have seen the question "What part of illegal do you not understand". Here is one for you "What part of Human being do you not understand. I personally believe the abuse these "people" are subjecting the day laborers to is "cruel and unusual punishment" My God how awful it is to see that making a persons live so miserable that they leave is a tactic designed by Americans. Sad, Sad, Sad. Oh and for those who will immediately call me a treehugging, bleeding heart liberal, not true, I am a God Fearing human being who is afraid of what God will do when he gets fed up with us.

In response To Brown Berets and La Raza wrote on Jul 10, 2006 9:57 AM:You are a traitor to your heritage, who is a wannabe Anglo. What if your grandparents had faced the same treatment that immigratnts do today? Oh, wait, the border patrol wasn't formed until the 1920s.

Kerry wrote on Jul 10, 2006 11:16 AM:Good going Waldron! I love to read how all the open border crowds scream "you can't use "national origin," as a basis for denying a rental application. They will never see the difference between illegal and legal; maybe it's because English isn't their first language? I am sure these same people loved that the Supreme Court ruled you could use race as one of the conditions for acceptance into college; but don't want it to be used in profiling criminals. Too funny. I don't want race used as a factor for anything; but now this ridiculous "race card" will now be thrown in the faces of all who cling to it. So be it.

Amigo wrote on Jul 10, 2006 12:18 PM:"You go, Girl."

Tired wrote on Jul 10, 2006 12:56 PM:Good going Waldron! I just emailed the City Council and Mayor and Code Enforcement asking for help on our street. We have many 2 bedroom apartments being used by 10 -15 illegals each paying $450.00 on a $900.00 a month apartment. What a bunch of theives, if its not the illegals charging everybody, then the City better get on the problem real fast because it means lots of dishonest apartment owners. How tacky stealing from your own countrymen! I also informed them of the continuing urination in front of children, the fact we don't know who is living next door molesters, murders, nobody knows! The weapons hidden on mop poles, yes mop poles, they tie the bricks and knives and guns and walk down your streets with mops on their shoulders. I also explained to the City that if anybody is seriously hurt when the law suits come flying they won't be able to say they didn't know!

Wondering wrote on Jul 10, 2006 1:08 PM:Hey can anybody tell me why I can't find an article on the illegals in Los Angeles attacking the Police and the Minute Men over the weekend Its all over the country but here no news. It seems the illegals had their faces covered with masks, if anybody knows why the NTC, San Diego Union and LA Times didn't cover the story can you let me know?

Wondering wrote on Jul 10, 2006 1:13 PM:Never mind found the story on the Drudge Report, LA News carried the story on television, its sad when you can't get the information from your own newspapers.

Flanders wrote on Jul 10, 2006 3:53 PM:Mark is right on with his comment. If illegals were banned from renting then the per capita income of Escondido would increase and the central neighborhoods would not be so ghetto. Middle class families would choose to live here rather then in Temecula if the town were safe and clean. This proposal is a great first step in ending the cycle of poverty and crime that plagues Escondido.

n response To Brown Berets and La Raza wrote on Jul 10, 2006 4:16 PM:No not a traitor, my grandparents were treated the same way. They were reprimanded for speaking Spanish in school and had to sit on different sides in the movie theater. You need to know the history of the Mexican in Southern California. They had their green cards and worked the fields but what they had and what I see these "illegals" and "activist" not have was pride in themselves. They taught us to be walk proud of who we were not of what race we are. They taught us how to work and not ask for handouts. If being American is being a wanna be Anglo then I must be. My father, uncles and cousins fought in WWII, Korean War, Vietnam and Iraq. What is an "Anglo"? Americans are all a mixture of different races bringing in all cultures to make a better America. Seems as though you have a lot of anger towards Anglos. Are you playing the victim of Anglos? Signed a Proud American!

Marie Waldron the foolish dreamer wrote on Jul 10, 2006 4:26 PM:Why not come up with a resonable and helpful way to not create a huge homeless problem. Why not try to build the community up? Why take extreme measures. I also think that this has to be against fair housing laws. After all illegal immigrants are entitled to equal protection under the Constitution maybe our girl Marie should read it before making such a ridiculous suggestion.

Flanders wrote on Jul 10, 2006 4:49 PM:The effect won't be a homeless problem. If illegals are not allowed to live here they will go away to where they are allowed to live (preferably their own country). Cutting off the jobs is one method to eliminate illegal immigration, and this is an additional tool that local goverments should use if they are serious about improving the quality of life for their constituents. The United States, and Escondido in particular, can no longer to afford to abosrb the world's "troubled masses" without a serious degredation to our quality of life.

Impressed wrote on Jul 10, 2006 4:54 PM:I had wrote of my concerns early this morning to the City Council, Mayor, and Code Enforcement regarding the problems we are having with illegal immigrants urinating in front of our children and other problems that need to be addressed. City Council member Mr. Abed has responded, yes, so far the only one to address my concerns but enough to impress me that we do have members on the council that do care. Thank you Mr. Abed.

El Guero wrote on Jul 10, 2006 5:26 PM:Well said, El Jefe. Everyone should read your last entry.

Good Times wrote on Jul 10, 2006 6:45 PM:Lotta good blogs here, but one thing seems missing. That is, to personally hold the corrupt politicians, in this case, Escondido Mayor Holt Pfeiler, directly and personally responsible for the degradation caused by the tidal waves of illegals flooding our communities from Mexico. Most area residents know Mayor Pfeiler as the one who goes out of her way to pander and cater to the illegal alien criminals. Escondido was once a wonderful place, but is now rapidly turning into a third world cesspool of raging crime, gangs, grafitti and violence. Blame the Mayor and her leftist cronies on the city council. Afterall, they're the ones who've literally betrayed the law abiding, tax paying citizens of Esc. Waldron is one of the few sane and honest voices. It's time to clean house!

To huh back to you wrote on Jul 10, 2006 7:08 PM: Please as I don't fear god in a way that he is going to punish me for trying to regulate the laws. And I promise that if you are in fear that god will pass judgement for not hiring ilegal day laborers on you you can take the money your saving on day laborers and take it to mexico and help there depleted country out. You are our nations #1 problem right now and I pray laws will be changed and they come down on you. Illegals are illegal because they want the american dream. ( nicebig trucks, grand houses, and other materialistic things ) but truth be told there are plenty of resources to stay in there country and feed, house, and take care of there family's. Maybe not all are trying to buy bigger trucks. That being said it is when they decide to have 10 children that they have to figure something else out. And taxpayers like myself are burden with contributing to border patrol, housing the many 1,000s in are prison system, putting up new fences, repairing old ones, as well as many other things. My point my fellow americans truth be told if you can't afford to pay an american then do it yourself because your spending your money in mexico, and dodging are laws which is ungod like. Dan (temecula)

Dale wrote on Jul 10, 2006 7:54 PM:Well lets see how much honesty this paper is willing to print. First you must understand the word "ILLEGAL". Not authorized by LAW,unlawfull,illicit in short a criminal! No ifs, an's or buts. If you harbor or rent to Illegals than your harboring a,in this case many, criminals, which makes you one! Is it ok to have a thief, robber or how about a murderer living next to you? Can you assure us that their not? Can you? You can't because there's no legal proof! Thats the way us legal residents feel. Where's our legal right for a safe environment? What gives anyone the right to take that away from us LEGAL RESIDENTS? I believe, probably for most Legal residents you can't answer that simple question. Remember the word ILLEGALs = CRIMINALs

Frida wrote on Jul 10, 2006 7:56 PM:Down with minuteklanwoman Waldron. She has go to go. Let's start the impeachment process to kick this racist outta our city government! I think we are going backwards here with Waldron in office, she seems to think we are in the times of South during the Jim Crow era.

I can't find affordable housing wrote on Jul 11, 2006 12:24 AM:I am disabled, and I qualify for housing assistance, yet I cannot get into an affordible apartment because I am a single white male with no dependents. Preferential treatment is being given to people with children.... isn't that discrimination? My family size is one--myself. I cannot help but notice that many of the affordable apartments I qualify for have a high percentage of Hispanics living there, as well as a community area which "assists" in English classes, free food for children, etc... I've paid my taxes, why can't I get the affordable hosuing I need? Five families living in a one famly unit... don't tell me that isn't a bunch of illegals living there. I hope this new proposal in Escodndio goes through, then maybe AMERCIANS with disabilties such as myself will be able to find decent, affordable housing again, and not be placed on a waiting list that is brimming with Hispanic last names; and whose current occupents stay in their apartments for years and years with plenty of people (illegals?) moving in in complete and utter diregard of zoning laws.

Shauni wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:28 AM:The reason that politicians treat people like idiots (in response to ugh's comment) is self-evident in the support blogs for Marie Waldron...

FYI wrote on Jul 11, 2006 7:23 AM:Frida, you are swimming upstream, and the current is getting stronger, soon to be a flood. Take your Mexican reconquesta flag and go back to the homeland and try to fix it. The you-are-a-racist lies, rather than facts, is old, old, old. Americans are fed up with the invasion and are fighting back, one law at a time.

what do they not understand wrote on Jul 11, 2006 8:40 AM:Why is it that people do not understand the difference between "illegal" and a legal immigrant. If against "illegal" you become a racist. Why not eliminate all laws...if I break a law it is okay. Don't say I committed an illegal act or then you are a racist against whatever race I am.

To Dale wrote on Jul 11, 2006 8:46 AM:So if I make an ILLEGAL U-turn, does that make me a criminal?

To Flanders wrote on Jul 11, 2006 8:49 AM:You are a heartless individual. How can you make that comment and sleep at night. Most of you are all cruel and heartless well I began to say human beings but I don't think most of you are part of the human race any longer. Not sure what your condition is called but it is along the lines of pure evil. So is the plan to ask every Mexican or brown skinned person who wants to rent a home or an apt. in Escondido for documents proving they are allowed to live in the U.S.? That sounds a lot like racial profiling and housing discrimination. Is Marie Waldron going to pay the attorney's fees the landlords incur because you know there will be lawsuits. It's discrimination wrapped up in a pretty package called concern. It is the Federal governments job to enforce the laws not our little city's to make new ones.

To Dan in Temecula wrote on Jul 11, 2006 9:02 AM:You must be huh or Duh not sure. First of all when I speak of my God I capitalize his name because he is a person. As far as the American Dream that is a fallacy. There is no such thing, I did really believe there was such a thing but I found there is only an American Nightmare. The American people although they are materialistic and money lovers were generally kind people. I have seen and read the worst things possible done by "Americans". Please believe me that I can certainly afford to hire contractors to redesign my yard, but they are not only over priced they work slow and the quality and detail of the work is not to my liking. The day laborers are men of integrity who work hard for there earnings because they take pride in a job well done. On the other had we have the American Dream people who believe any job will do and who cares if it correct just pay us. The American way now what was that?

To Dan in Temecula wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:07 AM:Hey Dan why don't you start cleaning up your city of it's pedophile and pervert problem. I guess it's they are alright because they are American Citizens. I read that 22 pervs have been arrested in Temecula. Maybe you are just interested in redirecting the pervert problem to the illegal immigration problem to protect yourself. Huh?

To: to JayGee from Jaygee wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:21 AM:To answer your first question: Yes, I am an American Citizen. I hate to disappoint you. In fact, I am an educated Latino man which is probably your worst nightmare. I have medical insurance and I pay taxes, lots of taxes. Now let me ask you, did you know that Arnold wanted to move 5,000 prisoners or did you read that here on one of the many stupid comments? Be true to yourself and answer the question. Maybe not EVERY SINGLE person that comes here is a hard worker but neither IS EVERY SINGLE American Citizen. What concerns me is that you don't accept people but yet I'm sure you would like to be treated equal because of your inalienable rights. Sorry, I'll never leave. I love this country and the beauty that we can speak our mind.

Sean wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:39 AM:Councilwoman Waldron is simply starting her campaign for the council early. Wake up! She is up for re-election in November. Waldron ran for Assembly and lost so I guess we in Escondido are her second choice. What better way to get attention than to propose something that is popular with her conservative base. Marie Waldron would campaign against her grandmother if it got her votes. When she was a City employee, she dated a council man and hung out with the Jerry Harmon crowd. She was president of the Ecology Committee and espoused liberal causes. She is simply a policitcal groupie and has no real philosopy except to get elected. It does not matter to her that her proposal is not constitutional. It does not matter to her that her proposal is anti-business and transfers the Federal Government's burden to landlords. It doesn't matter as long as it is popular and will get her elected. Shame on Waldron and shame on those who fall for her trick.

To Brown Berets and La Raza wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:40 AM:FYI, I do the history of racism and discrimination Mexican-Amricans faced in the southwest, which continues to this day with the help of traitors "White" wannabes like you. I do not play the victim of Anglos, but am simply proud of my roots and angry at all the racism I see in these posts, especially from people like you.

Annah M wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:46 AM:Way to go, Marie Waldron, I encourage the City Council of Escondido to support her proposal against renting housing to illegal aliens. We are watching you! You are shining light carriers for other communities in California. The law needs to support the legal citizens of this country, not tie our hands from preventing over burdening our taxes, schools, hospitals, environmental resources, culture, etc. We do not need to relax our laws for people who break them. It is time for communities to do what our Federal Government is failing to do. No to illegal aliens, they must all go home and get into line as legal immigrants have done. It is time to put an end to the exploitation of the citizens of the United States.

Hey Proud.... wrote on Jul 11, 2006 2:14 PM:Marie's Irish ancestors, as mine entered the US LEGALLY, I know that it is impossible for you to understand, but we are talking about ILLEGAL immigrants who have come into our country without legal status, steal id's and lower our living standards. Most are from a culture of corruption however THAT is NOT the way we live in America. To protect our country from ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS is NOT racist. Keep playing the race card... it only hurts the ILLEGAL immigrants and makes the rest of us MORE determined to rid our country of this vermin that sucks the life's blood out of hard working Americans.

Liz wrote on Jul 11, 2006 2:18 PM:You can't check credit without a SSN. It's that simple. Greedy landlords who are renting to illegals and allowing 3 or four families under the same roof deserve whatever they get.

Beautiful wrote on Jul 11, 2006 2:41 PM:I propose we switch gears and ban ugly people - then Marie will have to move away.

NOT ILLEGAL wrote on Jul 11, 2006 3:51 PM:I just looked it up, and no...its not illegal to tar and feather politicans and toss them out of town! But you better hurry they are probably writing a new law so fast right now!

To Beautiful wrote on Jul 11, 2006 4:42 PM:You are so funny. Thanks for making me laugh out loud. But for real I think we should do that I mean ban ugly people, and then we should ban mean people....What a wonderful world this would be.

Shari K. wrote on Jul 11, 2006 4:48 PM:my comment is to the person who made this comment at 2:14 today...."makes the rest of us MORE determined to rid our country of this vermin that sucks the life's blood out of hard working Americans."" Wow you almost had this Hard working American convinced that this is not a race issue and then you stoop to the name calling of human beings. Once again hate was victorious and I again am trying to figure out which side is right and which side is wrong. All I read on this blog is alot hate, name calling, accusations, allegations of wrong doing by people who I preceive are more evil than all the illegal immigrants put together. I will continue to ponder this issue before I decide who is right and who is wrong. So far I think your agenda and rhetoric is in error. I will wait and see before I choose a side.

To I can't find affordable housing wrote on Jul 11, 2006 4:54 PM:WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! My Broken and bleeding heart. Get a grip since when does the United States owe you a free ride. this is America and you need to earn your living around here. You are not better than those whinning Mexicans you are talking about. Yes, next group that will be attacked will be the disabled and handicapped people. Wise up America history proves that someone is always a scapegoat.

To huh and others (Dan Temecula) wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:39 PM: Come on pedophiles should burn instanly and never return to society. But in every communitie there are sex offenders idiot. Just like illegals they have some of there own pedophiles only when they are ready to disapear they do. To huh you seem like a good hearted person and I mean not to pick on you. But if you believe there is a better place than america hit me up as I will pay for you to leave. Your comments are unamerican, and I am racist against unamericans. Get it! Be proud because this is the greatest country in the world, and you must not pay attention to whats going on in the world because there is far worse than what transpires here. But your comment on that is dually noted as this country needs some cleaning up and we should start by with are borders and illegal immigrants. I know you have hired some good people from mexico but not all are good and we must as a nation that people are jeolous of protect the well being of are citizens and know who you are before you enter. GODBLESS!

to Waaaaaa wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:56 PM:If you were disabled you would be singing a different tune. What the issue is here is are illegals able to rent? Is prefferential treatment being given over AMERICANS (disabled or able-bodied)? THAT is the issue here. Since you don't have a broken and blleding heart, you should have no problem with rounding up ILLEGALS of all races and deporting them. Correct?

Shauni wrote on Jul 11, 2006 7:02 PM:To Dan in Temecula wrote on July 11, 2006 9:02 AM: "You must be huh or Duh not sure. First of all when I speak of my God I capitalize his name because he is a person.... Huh? God is a person? That is pretty nervy of you to compare God to yourself. The Divine is much more than a mere mortal; what are you thinking?

LO wrote on Jul 11, 2006 9:07 PM:Right On Marie!! Try to get the folks in Oceanside to do the same!!!

Registered Voter wrote on Jul 11, 2006 9:13 PM:Marie, Read over the comments of those who support your view. Look at the hateful souls you've aligned yourself with. You are an embarrassment to the open-minded, educated residents of Escondido.

Reasonable wrote on Jul 11, 2006 9:36 PM:I agree with Marie. The idea of America being a bilingual country offends me. Let's make English the offical language and ban other languages all together. While we're out it, let's outlaw annoying East-coast accents. Sarcasm. I am ashamed as a resident of San Diego to associate myself with some of the people on this blog. How ridiculous of Marie Waldron to be so close-minded and cold-hearted enough to be willing to turn some of the most hard-working people in Escondido away from their homes. People seem to be forgetting that all of American residents were immigrants at one point in history. This country is suppossed to be the land of opportunity. Give people that opportunity.

Skeptical wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:34 PM:Has anyone verified this woman's educational background? She says she graduated from St. John's University, yet she does not embody any of the priciples of campassion and global harmony found in the school's mission statment.

Pat wrote on Jul 11, 2006 11:35 PM:The late posts belittling Marie are unfortunate. This debate will be emotional, but necessary. Thank you Marie for having the courage to address this highly charged political issue.

Resident Voter wrote on Jul 12, 2006 4:50 AM:Will the real Marie please stand up? You wanted the spotlight, now you've got it. How does it feel? It will be interesting to see if your fair-weather friends will continue to follow the conservatives' answer to Busby. Or maybe Howard Dean would be a better example. Keep it up; it's an amusing distraction from reality.

To Pat wrote on Jul 12, 2006 6:16 AM:Bellttingly Marie? This is a woman who is proposing an idea that would displace thousands of innocent children. She belittles herself.

Jack wrote on Jul 12, 2006 7:20 AM:It's a great idea but what is needed as much is not allowing more than 8 people to live in a 4 bedroom home and 6 people in a 3 bedroom home.

To Pat wrote on Jul 12, 2006 7:29 AM:Pat: Are you serious? The light jabs at Marie are the ones that you call unfortnuate? Have you read the dozens and dozens of postings that are nothing short of racist hatemail? Forget about Marie. I'm worried about you.

To Marie Waldron wrote on Jul 12, 2006 10:36 AM:Go Away!

To Jack wrote on Jul 12, 2006 10:59 AM:How many people do you think should live in a one bedroom Apt.? How many people do you think should live in a 2 bedroom house or apartment?

Peter wrote on Jul 12, 2006 11:17 AM:Strange how issues dealing with illegal activity are made to sound racist. People of every color and background are racist...who cares...the issue is illegal activity. If you support illegal activity; you are aiding the criminal, supporting the criminal activity and are guility of an accessory to the crime. If you support illegal immigration you are guility of violating Title 10 and our immigration laws. Employers that hire illegal immigrants are guility, landlords that rent to illegal immigrants are guility, and people that hid and support illegal immigrants are guilty... so my liberal friends, if being against illegal activity makes me a racist, I say, I'm pround of the title bestowed on my by law breakers whom need to be put in jail themselves for their criminal activity!

Either for or against wrote on Jul 12, 2006 11:50 AM:Neither party is going to have to wait long, look around downtown Escondido, the Border Patrol is cruising the streets.

ILLEGAL wrote on Jul 12, 2006 12:03 PM:what part of that word do some of you people not understand? I am a college graduate, and I don't understand how some of these "educated" people can be so willing to give MY tax money to FELONS. When you enter a country illegally and buy a fake social security card at the check cashing store, that is a FELONY and it is Identity theft. If you people want to give all these poor ILLEGAL people help... give them YOUR social security number to use!

Rockbiter wrote on Jul 12, 2006 1:26 PM:Divide and conquor is getting you. Name calling. Affiliations and ideological dogmatism. Listen to all the self righteous blogging: you're a racist; not you're a bigot! You're intolerant. No, you're insensitive. Gimme a break from this self righteous, stupid baloney! Wake the hell up and realize that we are ALL facing, due to this insanely out of control illegal alien invasion from Mexico, the single greatest threat to our people, culture and nation. Ever!!! The real problem is with corrupt politicians like Mayor Vance of Vista and Mayor Holt Pfeiler of Escondido. This is where you should vent your righteous anger and outrage over the rapidly deteriorating qualaity of life in those communities (crime, gangs, tons of grafitti). At least Waldron is trying to do something positive and courageous. So, give us all a break and stop with the stupid and impotent name calling!

Union Trib Article wrote on Jul 12, 2006 2:31 PM:Just read a related article in SD Union where Ed Gallo and Sam Abed support Marie's proposal. The three were nuts about Palomar Hospital a few months back, now this? Ed and Marie are dumb anyway, but Sam? He's supposed to be the smart one. That's two strikes for him. He wont' be getting my vote ever again.

To illegal wrote on Jul 12, 2006 3:28 PM:What part of the words Human Beings do you not understand? It seems that compassion not education is what you lack. It matters not if you are a college graduate or a high school dropout if we as Americans have lost our ability to extent help to those who are in need than we are no better than any other third world country. America is great because we are the land of Opportunity or perhaps it is better to say were the Land of Opportunity. We must get back on course because the hate, and evil being written on this forum is very disheartening. We really can’t desire that these people become homeless? We really can’t desire that these people go without food? If you think your tax dollars pay for services for them now the worst is yet to come if ordinances such as this one are passed. Oh and by the way I am a victim of identity theft. Someone used my social security number to buy a car, rent an apartment, get several loans. After all was said and done it was a young woman (an American Citizen) who damaged my credit and ruined my life. I am still trying to work things out. Should I hate her? Should I hate all young Caucasian women? Of course not!!! What would that accomplish? I ask the same question about this ordinance….What will this accomplish?

To Rockbiter wrote on Jul 12, 2006 3:39 PM:It seems that you are guilty of the stupid and impotent name calling. The illegal immigration problem MUST be dealt with at the Federal level. Our City officials Mayor Vance and Mayor Pfeiler can not order ICE to "get rid of the illegal immigrants". This has been a problem that has grown over many years. It will not be resolved with the type of ridiculous ordiances proposed by Marie Waldron. Good effort but this is not the answer. Have any of you ever asked yourselves why ICE does not go round up all the illegal immigrants? They know exactly where they are, right? Why don't they go get them and deport them? I would tell you but you won't like the answer. Oh yes just to let you know Mexicans are not the only illegals in the United States, and not all Mexicans are illegal.

People_please wrote on Jul 12, 2006 3:56 PM:A lot you ask the question: Do you know what ILLEGAL means? I hope everyone reading these comments does. Now, do you know that not driving the speed limit is ILLEGAL? If you add up the times that all of us have driven in excess of the speed limit it would add up to a lot of money. So who is cheating the country out of more money, undocumented people or fast drivers?

Truly a sad day. wrote on Jul 12, 2006 4:08 PM:"Mayor Lori Holt Pfeiler said it's a sad day when a local elected official has to propose a law that deals with federal and state matters." Again these are not issues that should be dealt with at the City level. Good call Mayor Pfeiler.

To the one who posted the above comment at 3:39 pm wrote on Jul 12, 2006 4:18 PM:You are so right!!!!!!! About time someone asked the question? I am Mexican and frankly I am tired of being treated with prejudice and racism. Your point regarding the fact that not all "illegals in the United States are Mexican and not all Mexicans are illegal is so right on. Please people show some respect.

Marie is Brown wrote on Jul 12, 2006 7:15 PM:Anybody ever see Marie in person? She looks Mexican. I wonder if anyone has ever told her the whole "look", make-up and all is kinda gangster.

Peter wrote on Jul 12, 2006 7:24 PM:Re 4:18 post - you are correct, not all illegals are mexican.. however, that doesn't excuse the fact that more then 12 million mexicans in this country are here illegally! Control the border, stop the employment of illegals and this problem becomes manageable... if you're a mexican and feel you are treated with prejudice and racism, then you need to look at your own actions... it's your behavior... become an american and you won't feel that way!

This is GREAT!!! wrote on Jul 12, 2006 9:17 PM:The fact that this issue has come to the surface and people are actually angry about it is GREAT!! People arguing about this issue and the broader illegal immigration issues with such passion is exactly what we need prior to enacting any meaningfull change. These are the first steps towards a better tomorrow. I hope the illegal activists stay fired up and stay in the media as well. The rest of middle America is not nearly as tolerant as we are in this region or the east coast, and even here, there is a clear majority of legal citizens that want illegals GONE. It's just the beginning of the end of the free ride. No amnesty! From chaos comes order

legal i be wrote on Jul 12, 2006 10:17 PM: You get what you vote for.Illegal is illegal.Enforce the law.Waldren did this to get votes for the up comming election.Throw her out next time around. Throw them all out! Look what a mess this city is in.It didnt just happen overnght.Clean house so we can clean up this city.I am ashamed to say I live here.

ryan wrote on Jul 12, 2006 11:02 PM:Don’t re-elect mayor Pfeiler, she has been pushing for more and more low income rental units in Escondido for years. Escondido has 10 times the low income rentals as Carlsbad. I say bulldoze them all and make Carlsbad and other cities share the burden, why we are at it get rid of the Escondido swap meet and turn it into a park. People you need to get involved this election, don’t just sit at home doing nothing, get out and spread the word make fliers stand at street corners. Send a strong message to the establishment that Escondido is no longer a sanctuary city for illegals and do not re-elect Pfeiler

Rockbiter wrote on Jul 13, 2006 12:28 AM:You say not all illegals are Mexicans, which technically is true, however, it is a fact that well over 90% of illegals are indeed Mexicans. Also, the true number of illegals in our sinking nation, is, according to numerous, well informed sources, is well in excess of 20 million and more likely closer to 30 million illegals! Most of you have absolutely no idea what is about to befall you and your nation if this is not controlled quickly and substantively. Far more is at stake than you might ever imagine and holding onto your little floatie of 'racism' name calling will not make you immune from the extreme chaos that will befall many over this crisis. So yes, Mayors Pfeiler and Vance are very much part of the problem. Period! BTW & FYI...forget the decoy argument that it's a 'federal' issue. It's also a 'local' issue and there is indeed plenty that can be done locally and legally to combat this dangerous invasion.

escondido resident wrote on Jul 13, 2006 7:35 AM:I agree illegal immigration is not just a federal issue. Individual cities have decided if they are going to enforce certain laws or not on their own. The local police department can check for legal identification when ever they come across a crime, even traffic stops. Some cities have day worker halls were the illegals gather for work. LA is about 50% illegal aliens because that city has choosen to look the other way more so than others. I dont want my tax dollars going to any illegal immigrant and dont want MY city to be a sanctuary any more. Out with Pfeiler.

Andrea wrote on Jul 13, 2006 8:58 AM:WOW! This is ridiculous! The entire idea is simply absurd. I do not want a council member's personal agenda being sponsor by our taxes. She was elected to serve residents of this community – including the homeless. Mr. Woldran is just an opportunist who is clearly taking advantage of the current situation to work up the political latter. If she really cares about the well being of the residents, and most importantly, the security, she wouldn’t be supporting this type of propaganda. This proposal will only bring instability to the city of Escondido. And if you can't see past your ignorance, then you should read up on your history - maybe then you might recall how your ancestor got here. Shame on those who support this nonsense.

To Peter wrote on Jul 13, 2006 10:26 AM:"if you're a mexican and feel you are treated with prejudice and racism, then you need to look at your own actions... it's your behavior... become an american and you won't feel that way!" what a ridiculous statement. I am an American. I speak, read, and English fluently. I was born and raised right here in California. I completed my education. I have a great job. I own my home, and yes I pay taxes. But Peter unfortunately people such as yourself see me on the street or in a store and I see the prejudice attitude. The racist comments made because they assume I do not understand or speak English. One employee at Walgreens who was fired by the way found out that I do indeed speak and understand English. None the less you proved my point by your comment.....Thank you.

Joe wrote on Jul 13, 2006 11:12 AM:It has been said that cities and countries deserve the leaders they elect. People of Escondido, you don't deserve Ms. Waldron.

Rockbiter wrote on Jul 13, 2006 2:01 PM:Here's another facet to Senor El Presidente Jorge Booooosh's Guest Workers. Have you been watching/listening to the news of late? All over So Cal, Minutemen volunteers, exercising their legal rights to assemble, speak and protest, have been visciously assaulted by pro illegal alien, Latino VIGILANTES. Pres. Bush had the audacity to call Minutemen vigilantes for merely using binoculars and cell phones to assist BP agents, but it turns out the REAL VIGILANTES, according to numerous arrest reports, are Latinos that have been assaulting and threatening w/bodily harm, Minutemen and other partiotic Americans trying to defend their communities from the ravages of the invasion from Mexico. In LA last weekend, SIX Latinos w/face masks, were arrested by LAPD for violently assaulting (as seen on KTLA/tv) Minutemen in a parade (Minutemen had a legal permit!). The Minutemen, Waldron, Congressman Tom Tancredo and other pro rule of law, anti illegal immigrant activists, are the real heroes. The NCT's and other media, through their sachrine sob stories, would have you believe the illegals are the victims, when in fact the NCT's, and other totally biased, pro illegal alien papers, never tell you the TRUTH about the massive amount of cost and harm done to legal Americans by illegals flooding up from Mexico. I wonder WHY? Don't you?

darlamerika wrote on Jul 13, 2006 4:01 PM:MARIE WALDRON FOR PRESIDENT. This woman has guts! How refreshing. My God it's a miracle anyone like her still exists. You go girl! Her idea is the most logical thing I've heard in months. She's a keeper. Good for Escondido. And let's face it folks: if something isn't done soon----you can KISS Escondido Adios. The place is crawling with illegal immigrants,and yes, they're mostly from Mexico. Duh. What should I say? They're from Russia? Well, they're not. They are mostly Mexicans who are coming here to take services intended for American citizens. We must block their every attempt. I say amend 14th amendment. You breaky into our country you no get to have baby who gets free stuff, and you get a nice cup of cafe and bocadillo and you get on a bus back to your country, where you ask your gobierno for help.

To the rockbiter wrote on Jul 13, 2006 4:03 PM:Funny how you spin the stories. Of course those Minutemen are on there best behavior peaceably assembling and that stuff, right. Perhaps you missed the KPBS special and also local news reports where the passive, sweet, kind, helpful minutemen were caught showing there true colors. I did not know a permit was necessary to peaceably assemble on public property. Oh I know the minutemen are law abiding, patriots, hhhhhuuuummmmm???? Not only the President of the United States called these "men and women" vigilantes so did our Governer. I believe these men and women are dissenters, traitors speaking against our leaders I believe they should be stripped of their citizenship if they are citizens and sent to Siberia. They should be treated as enemies of the State during this time of war and treated as such.

To darlamerika wrote on Jul 13, 2006 4:23 PM:Very nice where did you learn english sweetie. Oh don't tell me you were actually faining a spanish accent to poke fun at the "Mexicans". Grow up this is serious business and you seem to be very childish and immature. I hear Esther Sanchez is being recalled as councilwoman in Oceanside by some activist. I hope he starts the same proceedings on Ms. Waldron

To Peter wrote on Jul 13, 2006 9:07 PM:I have looked at my actions and I yes I see racism and prejudice. What is your ethnicity? I am an American of Mexican descent and am brown and proud. My actions are about as American as I can be. I have a college degree and my primary language is English and cannot get a job in a bilingual position as I don't write and speak Spanish. My family has had idiots show their true colors but don't get me wrong...we don't harp on it. My mom was in the Vista Post Office years ago and "gentleman" called her a "damn wetback", again some idiot. My family now a mixture of all races. I am brown as can be and my grandchildren are blonde and blue-eyed. Even my Anglo's family had prejudices. I have had people use sign language to get their point across...It is funny because there are alot of people out there that assume because you are brown they need to speak broken Spanish to you but the majority don't have any problems. And yes I am against "illegal" immigration.

Stop The Invasion! wrote on Jul 13, 2006 10:32 PM:I just paid $25 for one square foot of a billboard with that message!

To Stop the Invasion wrote on Jul 14, 2006 9:35 AM:Well are you bragging or complaining. You probably should have put that $25.00 towards the tax dollars that will spent when hundreds of people are homeless. Only in America would a message of hate be so cheap.

amoney wrote on Jul 14, 2006 1:13 PM:I support this 110%. Mexicans should go back to Mexico and fix conditions there.

Pirate wrote on Jul 14, 2006 2:02 PM:Ahoy Matey! Permission to come aboard and chat. Listen up, mates! Riding the high seas for as long as I have, I believe I know the difference betweenst a real vigilante and me thinkst, a protester. Now I would say the Latino's that have recently been ruffing up and laying hands on your American fellows (as I've seen on your TV w/face masks, foul language and using fisticuffs, sticks and rocks) in support of your rules and laws are the real vigilantes . On the seas, they'd be dealth with most severely, matey. Those called Minutemem with their cellular telephones and spectacles or bi noculars, are harmless watchers of the laws and land. You best be watchin out real close like for those Latino Vigilantes. Also, Laddies, me thinkst you sound much like babies calling each other silly names and not dealingst with the real trouble, the invading armies, coming at your ship at full speed. My crusty crew sayz they'll cause you much trouble. They see Mutiny in your future! So does my trusty parrot. Arrrrrrgh!

Stop The Invasion! wrote on Jul 14, 2006 5:58 PM:I was advertising. I rarely give money to political causes. But after May 1st, watching the riots in Vista on TV, reading about the rocks throw at the Escondido Police in Grape Day Park, and viewing the photos of Latino demonstrators physically attacking the proponent of the San Bernardino measure in front of the court house, I was moved to do SOMETHING! I hope the Stop The Invasion organization will set up a billboard here in Escondido.

norma hadland wrote on Jul 15, 2006 10:25 AM:Hello! I am half-Hispanic and live in Monterey Bay. I wish we had Councilwoman Marie Waldron here. We are seeing horrible gang violence here in this city which was once like paradise. I have seen tons of illegal stream in these past two years. We need to cut off the "freebies." My son is a nurse who says the hospital rooms are clogged with them.

Guido wrote on Jul 15, 2006 2:19 PM:Escondido is under seige by illegal immigrants with hate in their eyes and hearts and pouring in by the thousands from Mexico. This city has a critical, flashing neon warning light problem with illegal alien gangs, crime, etc. We need a Mayor like the one in Hazelton, PA who's taking control of the alien invasion. Mayor Pfeiler of Escondido is a total failure and enabler on the alien issue. Escondido is on the road to ruin. Thank goodness for Marie Waldron and the few other honest people like her.

Shauni wrote on Jul 16, 2006 7:03 AM:You are all so funny. When World War III begins shortly, you will wish you had every last hand onboard to take up arms against the enemy. Time to stop fighting among ourselves and band together - keep your eyes on the Middle East and North Korea. Life is going to change as we know it. Bet on it. Oh, and thank George Bush for throwing dipolomacy out the window and starting a war without considering the far-reaching implications.

to Norma wrote on Jul 16, 2006 8:12 AM:I am sorry.....that your son is a nurse I mean. Why do you assume that if a Latino is a gangmember than they must be illegal immigrants? Or if you see a Latino on the street they must be illegal immigrants? The problem with issue is just that to many assumuptions are being made and not all Latinos are illegal immigrants and not all illegal immigrants are Latinos. When we become mature enough to look at the issues realistically we will be able to have proactive debates, and dialogue until then keep the crap coming if it makes you all feel better to vent.

Sandra wrote on Jul 16, 2006 10:12 AM:The city of Escondido is planning to eminent domain businesses on N Midway drive accross from Palomar College to build another new school for the dense Mexican population develping there. take a drive through escondido during the hours schools are letting out. See how many non latinos you can spot. We must STOP granting USA citizenship to children born of illegal parents. Latinos who can least afford it are breeding with no regard or gratitude for the freebies and privileges they are exhausting. STOP the Invasion and STOP rewarding illegals immigrants, I could not afford to have 6 children because I must support THEIRS! Illegal immigrants all things considerd are the most EXPENSIVE cheap labor there is.

Peter wrote on Jul 16, 2006 12:55 PM:I stand by my comments regarding behavior.. As for the Walgreen incident, being proud of getting someone fired only afirms my point.

maria wrote on Jul 16, 2006 1:32 PM:Did you see the response "Brown Beret" got? Being called a traitor. Perfect example of all the hate that we're supposed to pass on to the next generation. This new breed does not appreciate all the years, and money we paid just to be here. They see it as their right. Those who assimilate are ostracised. This is a dangerous thing for our country. You saw it on May 1st. But for the most part it is kept within the culture. They immediately saw their mistake and tried to tone it down. But it's too late. Now everyone knows, hopefully it isn't too late.

Janet wrote on Jul 16, 2006 3:37 PM:This council women is doing what she knows the majority of people (legal residents of the US)want. And that is for a politician to finally get tough AND real about illegal immigration. Any politician that would run in an election with a very tough position in regards to illegals would win. We all know that. I am glad that the "political correctness" tide is turning. Doesn't it finally feel good to be able to say how we really feel about this issue?

m wrote on Jul 16, 2006 9:31 PM:To; To my background, he wouldn't know about that whole Irish thing, as the only education that he needs is from la raza. Who collected 30 million dollars of taxpayer's money by the way. Just so they can cloud this generations minds to their militant ways.

darlingAmerica wrote on Jul 16, 2006 9:49 PM:Ya have to start somewhere. Why not with people who rent to illegals? Hit these enablers every place they exist. One by one. Enforce the law. Restore order. Restore dignity. I don't understand Mexican Americans. If this were me, and people that represented by culture were coming here illegally and causing this many and I mean MANY problems....I would be furious.

maria wrote on Jul 16, 2006 10:08 PM:To fyi; So, are you proud of yourself? Spreading the hate against the "anglo's"? Does it help you in some way? You say you are proud and we are not, but it seems to me that you doth protest a little too much. I can't be sure, but it looks like a smokescreen to me. Yes our people took their turn at the racial whipping post. But if you truely love our people. Do not feed them your anger. Maybe you are in a way getting back at those who wronged you, who made you feel less. Maybe that's your way of dealing with the pain of old scars. You are not the only one who lives with those. It's like the child who was abused, becoming the abuser. It is a good thing to know our history, yes. but it seems like your teaching it with a lot of unresolved anger. It's a good thing to teach our kids to be proud. But how about being proud of our acomplishments? Yes our heritage too. But why teach them a seperatist veiw. Racial comes to mind. You've turned it around, BUT IT'S STILL RACISM.

To UGH wrote on Jul 17, 2006 10:21 AM:While I agree with your stance that we also need a law barring Employers from hiring illegals, I disagree that the illegals come here to work. Yes many of them do work. However there is a whole boatload of them that come here to deal drugs, pimp, steal, rob - whatever they can do to get money WITHOUT WORKING! ALL OF THEM are using our community services without putting anything back in. And, yes, WE, THE VOTERS, NEED TO GET TOUGH ON THE POLICICIANS! I loved your comments and agree wholeheartedly.

To Skarlet Letter wrote on Jul 17, 2006 10:44 AM:YOU sound like the fanatic! Where are you from? If you live in Escondido, I would have to surmise that you have not stepped outside your door nor looked out your window in the past few YEARS! Which would THEN lead me to believe that you rely on some "poor illegal immigrant" who works for you at SLAVE LABOR WAGES to do all those things that would necisitate you having to go out into the real world. You also have not had your car stolen, your children shot or stabbed or given drugs, your property destroyed with graffitti, etc. Keep you head right down there in the sand - while you get your butt shot off!

Back to Huh? wrote on Jul 17, 2006 11:09 AM:Your name says it all: "Huh?" How about "Duh!" How will this bill curb immigration? Well, since you seem to have absolutely no vision, please allow me to enlighten you. The illegal aliens won't live in the streets, they will go someplace else, where there is housing available! (Wow! What a concept) If they are truly WORKING in Escondido, they can drive from Vista etc. or find a job in Vista, etc. Then, as more and more cities develop similar bills, the illegals will stop seeing our country as the cushy land of social-service opportunity (said social services being paid for by your and my taxes! By the way - they don't pay taxes). As far as most of the gang-bangers and dealers being US-born citizens, WRONG! GO LOOK UP THE FACTS! Who will move into these neighborhoods? Well!! I have exciting news for you! PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY, WHO RESPECT OTHERS' RIGHTS AND PROPERTY, WHO RESPECT THE LAW AND WHO ARE LEGALLY ABLE TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES (=stability!) WILL MOVE INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS! Were I a landlord, I would be jumping for joy!

To "Ugh" wrote on Jul 17, 2006 11:15 AM:One person filling out a rental form in their own name so that another (i.e. illegal alien) can live in the apartment is Fraud and should be prosecuted as such! A crackdown on THESE people would help, TOO! This whole thing is a kudzu with roots extending far beyond what we are seeing now.

maria wrote on Jul 17, 2006 4:50 PM:To fyi, if you really are, a teacher. YOU have a unique opportunity, maybe a responsibility, because you are helping to shape young impressionable minds. To do so in way that doesn't rob them of self esteem and make them angry. That doesn't teach them hate. Yes, there will always be racists. But do you not see the cycle of hostility that people like you are perpetuating? Look around you. I'm mexican and even I'm furious. You have turned those who might have stood with you, yes even "anglo's", against you. Using children as weapons, hurting them with your lies. Because it IS A FACT that if you are here illegaly. You DO NOT have the same rights as a citizen. This is FEDERAL LAW. Very easy to look up. I suggest you look up ROMANS 12 "if we can teach, we should teach" and "don't be proud and feel that you are smarter than other people" Remember GOD, is watching.

wa wrote on Jul 17, 2006 9:38 PM:Are You Ready For The New Hispanic Majority? Hispanic will be dangerous By 2050 Hispanics Will Become The Majority. When That Happens Everything Will Change. Armando Navarro, is Chairman of Univ. of Calif. Riverside’s Ethnic Studies Department. He is one of the out spoken leaders in the pro-illegal immigration movement. He is a native Mexican but carries dual citizenship with the US. He is a hero in the eyes of his Latino community. Read what he said in a recent article in the LA Times. "Univ. of Calif. Riverside’s Armando Navarro said his research showed that in 10 to 25 years, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Texas and Utah will be 50% Latino." “I call that re-Mexicanization, not reconquista,” said Navarro, 64. “A new majority is forming. Everything will change. The White House will be within our reach. We might have to change the name to the Brown House.” "The Brown House"??? If that got your attention then read on. Hispanics want the majority and the power that comes with having that. It's coming according to the US Census Bureau. * Hispanics are the nation's largest and fastest-growing minority group. They accounted for 49 percent of the country's growth from 2004 to 2005. * Hispanics represent 70 percent of the growth in children younger than 5. * Hispanic woman have more babies per mother then any other race, 3.0 vs. 1.8 for Whites. The numbers means Hispanics will make up an increasing share of the citizenry. * The theoretical 300 millionth person born in the U.S. will likely be born — or cross the border — in October 2006 and be of Hispanic origin. * The median age for Hispanics was 27.2 years in 2005. It was 30.0 years for blacks and 40.3 years for white non-Hispanics. * 11-20 million illegal immigrants are living in this country. * 3 million illegal immigrants sneak into our country every year. Of that number, 1.5 million escaped deportation and remain in this country. * 3 million anchor babies have been born and live in this country. * 200,000 anchor babies are born in this country every year. * Approx. 60 million legal immigrants added to our countries population in the next 20 years under Hagel/Martinez Compromise Senate Amendment. * 2004 - Hispanics outnumber Blacks becoming largest minority in U.S. * 2050 - Minorities become the majority in the U.S. * 2097 - Hispanics comprise more than 50% of USA Before you know it Starbucks will be replaced by a Taco Bell on every street corner. "Press one for Spanish" will replace "press one for English." Soccer will replace Baseball as our number one past time sport. The scenerios are endless with a Hispanic majority who publicly seek the power to push forward their own agenda. Educate yourself! Question your elected officials! Get off your lazy butts and protect our countries sovereignty and national identity while there is still time.

John wrote on Jul 18, 2006 6:37 AM:Lets see,The last time I rented a place I had to pay a deposit,first months rent provide three pay stubs to prove that I work and pay taxes,and pay a 25 dollar non refundable fee for a credit check to prove that I am who I say I am and havent been evicted somewere.I also had to provide referances which they checked.DO THEY STILL DO THAT?

John wrote on Jul 18, 2006 6:42 AM:Th ElJeffe,you dont want to call a Spanyard a Mexican,Totally different worlds.Even the langusge is different.

Hispanic outnumbering? wrote on Jul 18, 2006 11:41 AM:I wonder as all my family that was 100% Mexican is now watered down. The grandkids are now only 1/4 Mexican but still are considered as Hispanic. The question is how many are full hispanic as the majority of hispanics I have joined the American melting pot. Sorry to say my parents and their siblings have no 100% Hispanics left!! Is that a bad thing? No, we are all American with some Mexican culture left.

billyb wrote on Jul 18, 2006 5:26 PM:recent polling indicated 42 % of hispanics voted for Bilbray ----did they have papers ??? or was it just that they above all others no the boundries that should not be crossed ---Men don't effect other men's ability to care for thier loves ones .

Roberto wrote on Jul 19, 2006 2:59 PM:billyb wrote on July 18, 2006 5:26 PM:"recent polling indicated 42 % of hispanics voted for Bilbray ----did they have papers ??? REPLY: It must be a conspiracy by the Mexicans to secretly endorse republicans and conservatives because I certainly do.

Sanchez wrote on Jul 19, 2006 11:05 PM:Roberto you might want to get some help for that emotional problem of yours.it wont' be getting any better because there's just no going up against 295 MILLION Americans

DW wrote on Jul 20, 2006 8:14 AM:Where is the bird flu everybodys been talking about?

Stinky White Trash!!! wrote on Aug 16, 2006 11:03 PM:"Mexicans are here to stay for every wheter you like it or not!!!!!hahhahahahahhahhaha

Stinky White Trash!!! wrote on Aug 16, 2006 11:03 PM:"Mexicans are here to stay for ever wheater you like it or not!!!!!hahhahahahahhahhaha

European against the Mexican Invasion wrote on Aug 18, 2006 9:59 AM:Hopefully in a couple months all the cities in San Diego and Orange County will do the same. The Change is coming!!!!!

coral wrote on Oct 23, 2006 12:13 AM:Too many people forget that they are not real American's either,I am also an Irish American, and I am disgusted with Marie, and her like,if you pay taxes, and are not an American Indian then you are not a real American.