Letters to the Editor - 7/11/2006
By: Readers of the North County Times and The Californian - | ∞
Open mind called for in religion, evolution
Lately there have been quite a few letters concerning the possibility of evolution being taught in the classroom. After all, it's just another point of view.
The one thing that seems to be a common factor is they all point out that evolution is just a theory. Well it is.There is no proof of Darwin's studies and his conclusions. But these same people need to flip that coin over and take a good look at the other side. Where is the proof that Moses parted the Red Sea, or that Jesus fed his large flock with a small amount of bread and wine? Oh yeah, just did how Noah care for all the animals on the ark? For all we know there could be some validity to these stories.
But we all know how stories go, the longer ago you caught that fish, the bigger it gets. Every religion has its own version of the story. No one knows for sure, there is no proof. Therefore, dare I say it ... the history of religion is just possibly only a theory. There are many unproven theories throughout history. If you believe in one, great, just don't have blinders on.
The Bible has a lot of unanswered questions that people assume worked out to their beliefs. The history of religion has many versions, believe in yours with an open mind. And make sure to flip the coin now and then.
DAVID J. WILSON
Lake Elsinore
Let official know your vote matters
Thank you Paul Jacobs, for keeping this vital issue alive in your column. (The people can exercise their power, July 9). As one of the "Save R Vote" volunteers, I would like everyone to understand that each and every time anyone votes on one of the electronic voting machines, Barbara Dunmore, the Riverside County registrar of voters, takes that as a meaningful stamp of approval for these dangerously problem-ridden machines.
She has irresponsibly decided to view every e-vote as a vote of confidence in the system, even though she very well knows that is not the case. However, since she chooses to play fast and loose with our rights, it is exceedingly important for every person who values their vote and understands the need for transparency in the counting of them, to show up for Tuesday morning's Board of Supervisors meeting. It is not hyperbole to say that our very democracy is at stake, so please stand up and let her know that keeping your vote safe matters to you.
LINDA ALVAREZ
Temecula
Planting the seeds of mistrust
Re: the July 6 story, "Vista responds to DA's decision on 3 deputy-involved shootings." Doesn't Tina Jillings have anything better to do than plant the seeds of mistrust in the Latino community against law enforcement? I can acknowledge the sadness at loss of human life, but let's keep it in perspective.
What kind of social order could we expect to be maintained when it becomes acceptable not to listen to a direct order from a law enforcement officer? It's probably asking too much to use this as an example of why it is so important to do as you're told when a cop tells you to stop. They really are here to protect law-abiding folks. There are always two sides to every story, and to not consider both is not very bright.
I suppose everyone needs their 15 minutes of fame. Tina is just making very poor use of her time.
A.J. WILSON
Vista
Why not two airports for San Diego?
Why is everyone spending so much time wasting money on finding a single airport solution? Houston has three airports. New York has two major ones. Chicago has O'Hare and Midway.
Let's stop playing the military take-over routine. Fire everyone on the airport committee and sue them to get the money back that's been wasted on their childish, albeit inane, efforts.
It's so simple: Leave Lindbergh Field alone, fill in the salt flats at the south end of the bay and, voila!, a second airport! Duh!
BILL POVONDRA
Bonsall
Leadership requires truth
The North County Times' July 1 edition reported the resignation of Oceanside Planning Commissioner Robert Neal. Mr. Neal resigned in anger at not being elected chair, that portion is true.
The article quotes Mr. Neal as saying "he had received calls of apologies from all of the commission's members and that they have asked him to reapply to finish out his term." That statement is not true. I did not contact him and I am vice chair of the Planning Commission. Per the NCT two other commissioners have stated they did not contact him either; refer to Letters, July 6, and blogs, July 1.
Mr. Neal indicates that he was somehow ordained to continue in the office. This is not true. There was an annual election, he chaired it and did not indicate his desire to continue. He was not chosen. Mr. Neal also submitted a letter to the editor (July 6) stating his "momentum was derailed." He lists his chairmanship of the RV parking subcommittee as an example of his leadership. Mr. Neal fails to mention that in one meeting (I was a member) he halted the meeting in anger and stomped out.
Members who gain the respect of their colleagues are elected. Respect must be earned, not demanded. Mr. Neal should be thanked for his service and move on.
RICHARD PARKER
vice chairman
Oceanside Planning
Commission
Offshore oil drilling ban in trouble
When I paddled out on my surfboard last week, I was among pelicans, terns and dolphins. But the marine life may be replaced with oil residue if Congress gets its way.
The House of Representatives recently voted to repeal the ban on offshore oil drilling. Every California Republican voted to allow the drilling, and no California Democrats voted for it.
While the Congress holds pointless dog-and-pony road show hearings to keep the focus on immigration during an election year, some of us will not be so easily distracted. The oil industry sure got its money's worth by funding Brian Bilbray.
BILL COLLINS
San Diego
Time for Wood to be held accountable
Jim Wood needs to help me understand how in his relatively short time as mayor he has been misquoted by every reporter, his fellow council members, misinterpreted by both friend and foe from things as far back as when he was a police officer.
His own words seem to do more damage to him than the words of others.
The blame game must stop. Oceanside needs to again repair its reputation and it needs to start at the top. We need accountability. My son suggested sharing our five house rules with Mayor Wood.
1. Don't lie, it will come back to bite you in the butt.
2. Don't deceive, manipulate or assume you're more powerful or intelligent than the next guy. Powerful, confident people don't boast.
3. Be accountable for what you say, and if you make the choice to say something negative, own it. And, if you're wrong, apologize.
4. Know that every time you open your mouth and speak you leave your lasting mark of integrity, or lack thereof.
5. And, most important, if you're having the same problems with multiple people, it's probably you.
KELLY PATTERSON
Oceanside
Cross idea should satisfy all concerned
If I was a resident of the city of San Diego, and if Mary (July 5, Web Comments/Cross battle) is a resident of the city of San Diego, I would start a grass-roots campaign to elect her mayor.
Her idea of installing an "S.D." for San Diego and a prominent U.S.A. flag, hopefully on the horizontal bar of the cross, is brilliant. Think of all the hours of litigation and millions of dollars of tax money spent over the last decades fighting over the cross.
This should satisfy the Christians among us, of which I am one, as we could easily visualize it as a cross and others could accept it as a memorial.
SHEROLL TREVETT
Oceanside
Be kind to seniors; you will be one someday
I am writing in response to Joe Ellis' letter on July 6 ("Here come the senior boomers"). It is sad to read a letter written with such disregard for seniors.
Our senior citizens have worked hard for 40 to 50 years and many are retired from the military and have fought for this country. Many of these senior citizens are former nurses, one of whom may have even assisted in the delivery of Mr. Ellis. This nurse might have used one of the handicapped spaces Mr. Ellis was complaining about.
Or how about a former doctor who has saved many lives? And think about the senior who is a former mechanic who helped many people with their cars and perhaps let them slide when they didn't have the money. Or a former janitor at a school who greeted many children with a smile and a good morning. Many, many seniors do volunteer work in animal shelters, hospitals, Meals-On-Wheels and put many hours into helping out senior centers.
The impact our seniors make on society is nothing compared to the impact the illegal immigrants are having on our health care system. Mr. Ellis needs to realize that he very well may be the one in need of that handicapped space someday.
CAROLEE HILL
Oceanside
Road confusion an easy fix
Once again, Oceanside and the powers that be have made a mess of something that should have been a simple fix.
I play golf at Oceanside Municipal and drive out that way several times a week.
As people might have noticed, construction has been going on at the corner of Douglas and El Camino Real for some time now. Well, they finally finished their street repairs and widening.
One problem. Heading east/northbound, they have three lanes merging into two without the benefit of letting anyone know. So now we have a major backup as people jockey for position for those two left-hand lanes. And, of course, there are multiple idiots who just can't wait and dive in at the last second, causing near accidents and certain fingers to come flying out the window.
Why is it every day normal people can think of easy solutions for traffic problems and it seems to escape the professionals at Caltrans? If you want to stop the car diving, put up cones a couple hundred feet before the actual turn. Can't dive in then.
Baby steps, Caltrans, I know you can do it.
DON SNYDER
Oceanside
A spectacular Fourth of July
I would like to express my sincere thanks and appreciation to Four Seasons Resort Aviara, La Costa Resort and Spa, and Legoland for providing spectacular Fourth of July firework displays in Carlsbad.
Our residents were fortunate to have three separate shows to view in our community, and I hope everyone enjoyed them as much as my family. Thank you to everyone who helped coordinate these magnificent shows of patriotism.
MAYOR BUD LEWIS
Carlsbad
Columnist divided in his thoughts
Cragg Hines ("Court as divided as nation," July 5) writes "Justice Scalia, writing for a 5-4 majority in support of a robust reading of the constitutional right to counsel." Where does Justice Scalia get the idea that Hamden (bin Laden's chauffeur), a non-U.S. citizen, enemy combatant without uniform (therefore a civilian terrorist), not wanting any part of our Constitution or the Geneva Convention, should have a U.S. constitutional right to counsel?
Please choose your opinion writers more carefully lest you (the North County Times) be deemed a terrorist sympathizer also.
Also, reading Jay Bookman's Opinion piece "(Neglect more threatening than burning flags," July 5) helped me to remember that burning the flag is the proper way to dispose of it, and that someone who desecrates the U.S. flag by burning it as a demonstration of hate for our great nation, that the light created by the hateful burning helps provide a much better target to hit the burner with our muskets.
NEIL TURNER
Carlsbad
Change the laws, stop the fear
I love my country and grew up with two parents who served during WWII. My mother was just interned at Fort Rosecrans and you can't help but well up with emotion when standing among the memories of so many men and women who served and made the ultimate sacrifice.
The flag is a symbol for this freedom, justice and liberty. It should not be used as a shield for people who intimidate, harass and use fear and vulgar tactics to demonstrate anti-immigration issues. Not in my country! Barking dogs, racial slurs, tactics that are reminiscent of white oppression is a disgrace. Their misguided loyalty to protect our borders through fear and intimidation is wrong. Reform the guest-worker program, work toward a just and peaceful resolution to immigration.
Stand up for justice and liberty, not fear and intimidation. That poor farmworker is picking food for all our dinner tables tonight, and that has not changed for many years or for years to come. Change the laws, stop the fear.
BARBARA FROSETH PERRIGO
Cardiff by the Sea
CBS changes will have him viewing ABC
I have watched CBS most of my life and, as far as I am concerned, the day Bob Schieffer leaves the anchor chair I am switching over to ABC or NBC. Katie Couric has no credibility with me whatsoever. Put somebody in the chair with real-life experience in the field like Dan, like Bob, like Peter Jennings. Someone who has been on the real frontlines of the world news. It is simply a ploy to improve ratings. Matter of fact I do not even consider her a reporter. She is simple window dressing. Why don't they put her on the frontlines in Iraq, then let's see what she is made of!
As a viewer, I want to know that the person reporting the news knows what it is like to be on the frontlines. It is truly a sad day at CBS News. How dare CBS put Katie in Dan Rather's chair! What has she really done? Nothing that I know of but sit on a morning talk show sipping coffee, smiling and looking pretty and perky. Give me a break.
God help CBS News ρρ they are going to need it. I bet Ed Murrow is rolling over in his grave and Walter Cronkite has some not-so-kind words for the network. An anchor needs the experience, the toughness, the perspective of an elder statesman at CBS, whether they think they do or not. The way the network treated Dan was very bad; that man did more in his life and career than most people can even dream of. He is a true reporter, something CBS probably does not even know the meaning of.
MICHAEL WILLIAMS
Oceanside
Ditch the agenda, give us back the truth
I received the notice a few years ago by the North County Times that it was being taken over by the Lee Enterprises newspapers with much dismay, having lived in communities across the nation where its peculiar brand of journalism has poisoned the minds of its readers. However, even I was surprised at how quickly it has whipped the squeaky-wheel mentalities of reactionary groups such as the Minutemen into the appearance of a real majority and movement, and frightened our corrupt local political class into submission.
As a result, I would like to remind their adherents that in the early 1800s (before the Gold Rush) that many of us who are native sons and children of the Californios (Anglos) who wrote our state constitution making it a "country first and a state second," had ancestors who moved here to escape their pro-slavery stance and intolerance for all that is not "cracker."
Their early migrations in the 19th century to escape drought, dust bowl politics and the lack of compassion of their political class has brought them to the present, where they are re-creating the same nightmare they fled nearly 80 years ago.
Give us back the truth, and send your political agenda back to the confederacy to die a long-awaited and just decline.
JOHN ELDER MOFFAT
Vista
Battle to secure America's borders
Politicians and media moguls use decoys with skill these days to take attention away from the real, pressing issues and relentlessly focus them on incidental issues.
A survey of today's media headlines shows them featuring alarming stories regarding Korea, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan and the like, but do you ever see alarming stories about what's really going on right here at home? Many of us feel that the illegal alien invasion from Mexico and the Bush administration's stand-down policy on securing our borders and enforcing our laws greatly dwarf all other issues.
Between 10,000 to 15,000 illegal aliens from Mexico invade our nation each and every day. Because of this many Americans now fear for the safety of our nation.
We are told that terrorist strikes against us are imminent, and yet President Bush and the Senate are doing their best to flood our nation with even more illegals and terrorists. Congressman Tom Tancredo's new book, "In Mortal Danger," and the new book by Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi, "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders," detail the immediate and grave danger we are in. These books will shatter all media and political myths and lies about this critical problem. Read them, if you dare. Your nation hangs in the balance.
SAUL LISAUSKAS
founder of Encinitas
Citizen Brigade
Encinitas
U.S. needs to develop an exit timeline
I was against this war before it even started. Attacking a country that has not attacked us or our allies is un-American and wrong. President Bush was untruthful before the Iraq invasion and he certainly hasn't improved since then. A real leader would take responsibility for the mess Iraq is in today. He has squandered our military to pursue his misguided agenda. Whether our soldiers committed war crimes or not, Bush needlessly put them in a chaotic and deadly situation. Shouldn't he take some blame for whatever occurs there? We can also ask if Iraq is better off than it was under Saddam Hussein. The thousands of civilians killed and maimed were certainly better off ---- at least they were alive.
Today, Iraq is a magnet for terrorists from all over thanks to us. This inept administration's fairy tale dream of spreading democracy through the Mideast is just that ---- a fairy tale. Think of the really important things we need to do at home that we can't afford due to the constant drain of the war. Since the president has no real plan for ending this war, Congress needs to step up and set a deadline to be out of Iraq. One or two years; the point is everyone would have something definite to look forward to ---- especially our troops. Other serious problems exist in the world that demand our full attention such as North Korea, Iran, etc. Back when Bush pushed for war, Congress had neither the brains nor the guts to say no. Unless we want to be in Iraq indefinitely, they must now rise above partisanship and do their duty to wind down this costly and counterproductive war.
CHRIS DEJAN
Murrieta
Don't believe commercials for quarry
I have watched the barrage of commercials showing all the wonderful things that will happen, if the quarry goes in.
It's said that it will reduce truck traffic, then where is all that material going? It has to go south or north, either way it will impact us.
Another lie is that you won't know the quarry is there. They will be blasting and grinding for most of the day and night and we won't hear that? We hear the artillery from Camp Pendleton, which is farther away than the quarry will be.
Also and most important, there will be minute dust in the air, silica, which will be carried into our area by the daily winds that come from that direction, which is known as the Rainbow Gap, and which blow quite strong more often than not.
Silica is a very dangerous material, very detrimental to your health.
I am asking, are a few tax dollars worth the risk? I think not.
Don't be fooled by these slick commercials, they do not tell the truth. And the statements that the company can be fined if they don't adhere to the standards set are misleading at best. I have read in this paper that this very company that wants to start this quarry has been fined for violations and has paid the fines rather than fixing the violations, because it was cheaper to do so.
ERIKA HORNISCH
Temecula
Ordinary people need to stand up, take action
I went to the movies last night and they spliced themselves into this news junkie's mind. I saw a preview of the new messianic Superman before viewing "United 93" at the Temeku Cinema. After the stirring images, it occurred to me that the United 93 hijackers and our "Unitary Executive" shared a similar goal: to take out Congress. The jihadists failed because ordinary people recognized the big picture and took action, but the White House is still determined to neutralize the legislative branch of government.
Why is Bush a zero-veto president? He doesn't need to veto anything.
Laws bounce off the chest and fall at the feet of this man of steely resolve. He merely drafts a "signing statement" that "clarifies his interpretation" of a new law. Bush has done so 750 times. The problem is, he swore to support and defend the constitution, not interpret it.
That's the job of the judicial branch, which finally weighed in last week on this presidential power grab.
But the Supreme Court won't wield the kryptonite that finally reins in this super presidency. We will: by voting in a new Congress that won't allow itself to be marginalized like a 98-pound weakling. Do your part by refusing to re-elect a sitting member. We need a Congress that will stand up to power hijackers. We need ordinary people to see the big picture and take action. Let's roll.
TODD SHORACK
Temecula
Web Comments
Readers responded to an article Saturday about the county's plan to require that all dogs and cats in unincorporated areas be spayed or neutered and implanted with microchips identifying them:
Bizarre
Gayle: Six months in jail because you didn't microchip your cat? That's truly bizarre.
Unfair burden
Rural resident: Forcing all people to spay/neuter and microchip all cats in unincorporated areas may be well-intentioned, but it seriously misses the mark in terms of practicality and adds an unfair financial burden in terms of chipping and subsequent fines for noncompliance. We utilize cats as rodent control on our property of about 20 acres, as do all of our neighbors. ...
Another encroachment
How: I am appalled by this most recent example of our "representatives" spending their time (and our tax dollars) figuring yet another way to increase profit revenues, steal more from our rapidly shrinking wallets and encroach further on our few remaining civil liberties. ...
Education hasn't worked
Bill: I don't like anything that forces citizens to give up any rights, but in this case education on this problem has been going on for years and it hasn't seemed to work at all. ...
Falsehood
Karen: The idea that mandatory spay/neuter contributes to the health and well-being of animals is blatantly false! It is well-known that there are risks associated with any surgery, and particularly with invasive surgeries. ...
Living and breathing
To Rural resident: ... we are talking about a living, breathing creation, not a computer ink cartridge.
Overkill
Angry Man in Temecula: This is just an overkill of government regulation! When government regulates or criminalizes actions or inactions that have no bearing on our individual freedoms or safety, then we inch closer to tyranny. ...
Farm cats
To the girl that attacked Rural Resident: Everything that they said is true about rats and mice and they could have included ground squirrels, too. Cats have been used for that on farms for hundreds maybe even thousands of years all around the world. On a farm, they are tools. ...
Enforcement problem
Denice, unincorporated Riverside Co. resident: ... if animal control cannot enforce the basic leash laws that are already in place, PLEASE tell me how are they going to enforce all of the new regulations they want to implement? ...
Pitbull bites Escondido woman
Readers respond to our July 10 story about a woman receiving minor injuries Sunday when a neighbor's pitbull bit her on the leg.
Picking on pitbulls
Pitbull Owner: "It always amazes me how much attention these stories get. If it were a German Shepard, Lab, or Cocker Spaniel we wouldn't be reading about it. This women didn't even have to go to the hospital and it still made the paper. Stop giving these dogs a bad name."
Up to the owner
Bad Name: "These dogs are a potential menace. For the most part that is because their humans are incompetent and irresponsible to deal with their aggressive tendencies. I have known some lovely pit terriers who were bred, raised and trained so that their innate aggression was subdued. However, it seems to me that most people who acquire them look for the baddest dog, thinking that its aggression tendencies is a sign of their personal toughness and machismo. They don't understand the responsibilities of dog ownership or are unprepared to fulfill them. I strongly support legislation requiring the neutering of all aggressive breeds of dogs and 'one strike and you're out' rule for owners. This dog got loose, these owners should not be allowed to have a pit terrier."
Owner mistake
EskieLover: "Whether the dog is an aggressive breed or not, it is the owner's responsibility to maintain control of their animal at all times. I hope the owner has excess liability on their homeowner's insurance, I smell a lawsuit. BadName is right on -- it isn't the dog's fault, it is the owners who fail the dog by not providing the obedience training required for the dog to lead a happy, healthy nonaggressive life. Sorry, but that owner just struck out and the dog should be removed from him/her."
All bark, all bite
GFN: "I have a friend who just got a pit bull. It is the cutest puppy! It really is, says the owner. There is no way this dog would ever bite anyone or anything, it's just too cute. What a moron; these dogs grow up ... and bite. Bad breed to have in a residential neighborhood."
Twin Oaks residents prepare to battle development
Readers respond to our July 10 story about some residents of Twin Oaks Valley coming out to Walnut Grove Park to say a proposed 2,700-home, 400-acre development in the Merriam Mountains would be a massive fire hazard that could threaten their homes and even neighboring towns.
Get out now
Welcome to our world: "We who have lived in the Elfin Forest area for many years can attest to what you Twin Oaks folks are about to go through. San Elijo Hills has been nothing short of a nightmare! From traffic, crime, noise, dirt, pollution, trash, snotty Styrofoam people, who bought a Styrofoam house, who now think they live in Beverly Hills for crying out loud? Gag! Now you TOV people have it worse, you have the daunting task of convincing Bill Horn to put the kibosh on the project. Not. I have two words for you, move NOW!"
Is this a joke?
Lake San Marcos resident: "It would be a huge loss to all of us to lose the rural character of the outlying communities. The Merriam Mountain project would be a disaster, for many reasons. And this 'shelter in place' fire strategy? Ridiculous! How can they propose that with a straight face? Once again, residents have to spend money, aggravation and time to fight their own elected officials to defeat a project no one wants. Thankfully, the Twin Oaks Valley Property Association is organized and affluent. Please keep in the news and let us know how we can help. Another thing: Is anyone representing the developer who used to be on the planning commission or otherwise associated with any County Supervisor? Just asking...."
Stand strong
No way: "This idea is ridiculous. How greedy do these builders have to get? Stick as many people as you can get into these developments and not worry about the dangers that lurk. This sounds like a major problem ready to happen. Stand firm, Twin Oaks Valley Residents, and I know a lot of people are on your side."
Escondido councilwoman proposes banning rentals to illegal immigrants
Readers respond to our July 9 story about Councilwoman Marie Waldron is proposing that Escondido adopt a city ordinance that would prohibit landlords from renting to illegal immigrants.
Three cheers, Marie
Way to Go!: "Marie! A woman after my own heart! Finally, a person in the political arena with some SENSE and the intestinal fortitude to back it up!"
Dig in
Larry: "The measure must also contain provisions for financing enforcement. And there needs to be a measure for reporting to immigration and border patrol those illegal and fraudulent applicants. Grrr. Put some teeth into it, baby!"
Works in theory
ughII: "This is political grandstanding at it's worst. I wouldn't vote for Marie for dog catcher. After being slapped down by the voters in the Assembly race, she needs to find another knee-jerk issue to keep her name in the news. Maybe another photo-op with the Minutemen? I'm steadfastly anti-illegal invasion, but let's get real. How many illegals do you think apply for rentals on their own? "
Keep going
eureka: "Expanding the idea to business space rentals might eliminate half the tenants at the biggest blighted business and area of crime in Escondido. Hmmm."
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Road confusion an easy fix wrote on Jul 10, 2006 10:18 PM:That's not a CalTrans problem, it's a local problem. Contact the local traffic engineers about fixing the problem. CalTrans only manages Interstates and State Highways and their interchanges. Anything else is the problem of local authorities. What do you expect from Oceanside? Good circulation? Ha!
To Councilwoman Waldron and Supporters wrote on Jul 10, 2006 10:53 PM:Would you rather these illegal aliens live in Grape Day or Washington Park? Or maybe on the corner of Midway and Grand? What is wrong with you people? Illegal aliens are here and are not going to be thrown out by our Federal Government, so why should it be the city of Escondido's job to enforce immigration law? This law is ridiculous and not practical in the least bit. If illegals are "allowed" to be here by our Federal Government, then the city of Escondido should allow them to live there.
PEM wrote on Jul 10, 2006 11:28 PM:To CAROLEE HILL of Oceanside, you know one day Joe Ellis might make it to be a senior, and he will hear some young person shoting off big mouth, about the seniors, and let's hope he'll remember the comments he made when he was younger, and how stupid they were. The way the government cut's back on everything, maybe by time he gets to be a senior, there might only be one or two handicapped parking spaces, and he'll be the one who needs it but never gets there in time.
Ron wrote on Jul 11, 2006 4:06 AM:Japan bombed us, we attacked Germany. does that make any sense to Chris Dejan. Hussien did invade a ally, Kuwait, does he remember that? And if Iraq was better off under Hussien, then so was Bosnia, and Serbia. At least they were alive, for a while. And really important things at home, versus, ah, let me think, Katrina victims? 1.4 billion for cars, and gucci bags? Healthcare for the next 12 million illegals? And the plan for exit is to kill off enough bad guys, so that average Iraqi's can walk their own neighborhoods without getting clipped on a daily basis. As for North Korea, I think Bill Clinton's former Defense Secretary put it best. Blow it in place next time they attempt a missile launch. Can't believe the guy said, they were better off being alive under Hussien. I suppose the Czech's, the Pol's, and the Slov's thought the same under Hitler? Where do you dig these guys up?
RE: Battle to Secure America's Borders wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:08 AM:The border should have been sealed off on Sept. 12, 2001.
El Guero wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:10 AM:Barbara Perrigo can't love her country all that much if she doesn't mind seeing it overrun by hordes of Mexicans. And what's the point of invoking her parents' WWII service? My old man was a combat veteran with the Third Army in Belgium, the Rhineland, and Czechoslovakia, and before he died he was just as upset about the Mexican invasion as I am. If you want to 'stop the fear' don't 'change the laws'; just enforce them and send the illegals home.
MB wrote on Jul 11, 2006 8:15 AM:Wood accountable? Ha! He has stated at city council meetings, "I am Mayor"! Does that tell you something? Would also suggest Sanchez and Sheri Macken memorize #1 throught 5.
GFN wrote on Jul 11, 2006 8:54 AM:Bill Povondra...why not two separate airports? Is there a reason against this?
GFN wrote on Jul 11, 2006 8:56 AM:Bill Collins, are you saying that Darrel Issa voted to allow off-shore drilling in California??
GFN wrote on Jul 11, 2006 9:00 AM:Barbara Perrigo, your last sentence, "Change the laws; stop the fear." is unnecessary. Good laws are on the books now. What should be said is, "Enforce the current laws; stop the inanity that has resulted from not doing so."
to Todd Shorack wrote on Jul 11, 2006 9:43 AM:Right on! Well said. Regards, Capt. America
Hey Barbara wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:05 AM:It isn't fear. The farm workers did use to pick the fruits and vegetables and then they went HOME TO MEXICO. They were here LEGALLY. NOW is a different story. They bring their kids, brothers sisters, cousins, ILLEGALLY. They pay no state or federal income tax. These boys who are 18 yrs old and claim married and 9 know EXACTLY what they are doing. They steal people's identities with fake SS cards. They pack our neighborhoods with 4 & 5 families to a house. I know first hand in the Condo complex I live in 90% of the problems we have are directly related to the Hispanic residents. Mom buys a unit and all her grown kids and grandkids move in. They take over the pool, tie up the laundry room, and bring all their extended families over to overrun the rest of the complex's residents. They scream prejudice when you ask them to follow the rules, that everyone else follows. The ILLEGAL immigrants need to go back to their respective countries, be it China, Mexico, Taiwan or Guatamala. This country is a country of immigrants... LEGAL immigrants.
Interpreter wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:24 AM:As an ongoing public service the 2 longest rantings, and the comments of the most frequent commentator are condensed to save you time:Ron meant, "Nobody was better off under evil dictators!"; Hey Barbara meatn, "I blame Hispanics for the fact I can only afford to live in a cheap condo!"; and GFN meant, "If I make one entry for every letter, I can see my screen name several times!"
Kimball wrote on Jul 11, 2006 10:49 AM:Ms Patterson, Bravo, excellent, wonderful now we can only hope that our great and powerful OZ, I mean Mayor listens. But my guess is NOT.
Ron wrote on Jul 11, 2006 11:40 AM:I wonder if BILL COLLINS drove his SUV to the beach, to go surfing? Just a thought.
Conservatives like Ron wrote on Jul 11, 2006 12:23 PM:Where do Conservatives get guys like Ron? Japan bombed us and we attacked Germany. Japan and Germany were allies with each other. When we declared war on one, through treaties with our own allies we needed to declare war on all Axis nations. We learned that in what 1st grade Ron. When Iraq invaded Kuwait we did attack them Ron in the 1990'S, remember Ron? But that doesn't give us the right to attack them AGAIN??? The attack was not provoked by a SECOND attack on Kuwait. What Chris is saying, Republican excuses of, we are there to protect the Iraqi people from the killings and death of the Hussian regime are meaningless, since we killed over 100,000, maybe half that were civilians and we ignited a civil war. None of these were happening under Hussian now were they Conservo boy. Where is the benefit to Iraq. And now we have enabled terrorists like Al Queda to set up shop and take pot shots at our boys. They weren't there under Hussian. Hussian was crippled in his military when we attacked through our sanctions. He had no planes, few tanks for lack of parts and he wasn't building WMD's no matter how many times Rick Santorum tells you they did. We were wrong Ron to invade because once we broke Iraq, we bought it. So what does Iraq have today?? A government that is worthless and powerless. A near Civil War, utilities that don't work half as good as when Hussian was botching them up. Most can't work and eveyone fears for their lives. Ron, these civilians running around with AK47 aren't bad guys, they are religious zealots killing each other. They are insurgents in a Civil War. They will be insurgents until somebody gets control and it doesn't look promising that our puppet government will be able to do it. It's been 4 years and their military and police aren't strong enough to accomplish anything without us. It is Vietnam (North vs. South)all over again. Your...the conservative solution, is to kill off more of the Iraqi people. Why don't we just drop a Nuke and steal the oil, set up bases and we go home clean as a whistle. Good srategy conservative boy. It worked real well in Vietnam and now in Iraq. NOT!!! So tell me Bush boy, how better are the Iraqi people??? Give us all your glowing examples how much better, profitable they are. How's there economy with all the oil Wolfowitz said would pay us back in what 30 days. Its costing us millions a day, for people you don't mind killing "a few more of". OH BOY but they do have a Constitution. Do you guys all get built from the same stupidity mold. This administration has failed, after our military won the war. We are failing in the occupation phase.
Fear and its solution wrote on Jul 11, 2006 12:44 PM:For conservatives, it seems that the one most important driving force is fear. Of terrorists. Communists. Aliens. The poor. Anyone who wants anything from me. And the policy that comes from this, always touted as the solution to the problem, is military or police action: kill em, and kill more of em, and kill em until there are none left to fear. And if doing all this killing makes new enemies, well, kill them too. This is the conservative interpretation of our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is the way to the American dream.
Marissa wrote on Jul 11, 2006 12:48 PM:Ms. Patterson, can you please give me specifics regarding what you are insuating Mayor Wood is doing or has done? I'd like to know exactly what you are referring to. Dare I say you sound politically motivated? By whom, might I ask?
GFN wrote on Jul 11, 2006 2:15 PM:Dear "Interpreter", I have learned that it is better to separate my blogs when I am writing about different topics. If I put 3 in one posting, it gets confusing to some. I'm not sure you realize, but anyone can post their "screen name" as many times as they want, but there is no great honor or recognition for that. Mr. Interpreter, do your own blogs, and Ron and I and "Hey Barbara meatn" will do ours. The other readers can interpret for themselves; I doubt they need your help.
to Interpreter wrote on Jul 11, 2006 2:49 PM:GFN meant "Take a hike!"
Dear Interpreter wrote on Jul 11, 2006 2:53 PM:I enjoy the condensed version--keep it up.
Ron wrote on Jul 11, 2006 3:49 PM:So, I guess your not for going into a country on a U.N. sanction to prevent Genocide? You guys slay me. When Billy Boy was lobbing missiles over in Iraq, that was the best thing since sliced bread. Or bombing Bosnia, or Serbia? Aren't we still there by the way? Talk about a never-ending war, or occupation. Facts of history seem to elude you, so let me help you out. Occupations in both Japan and Germany lasted 7 years. We killed millions with bombing missions over Europe. Millions of innocent civilians. Were we right then? Vietnam and the U.S. had a treaty, Sir. President Kennedy negociated it, and the Senate approved it. Johnson acted on it. Again, we killed innocent civilians. Were we right? And Iraq. 12 years and 17 U.N. resolutions. Hussien was in constant violation, yet no one wanted to enforce the resolutions. Ah, but they were being bought off, Russia, China, France, and Germany, all had a piece of oil for food. Why do you think they would scold him like a little kid, yet not mean it? He was in a box, he was crippled? You really need to check your sources, as Hussien had made the leap in chemical munitions. In 1998 he had a binary chemcial weapon, not produced prior to 1991, as Dr. Kaye had previously stated. Dr. Kaye admitted under oath Hussien had "Russian" type chemcial weapons, that would last for decades. His production line was small, but with sanctions about to be lifted, he would surely resume. In 1940-1950's the Brit's withstood a insurgency, and put it down. The outsiders, Sunni's, and Bathists were fighting can't beat us face to face, so they kill innocents, and try to win the media war. And they obviously found a friend in you.
Thanks but no thanks wrote on Jul 11, 2006 4:53 PM:Thanks interpreter you do provide a valuable service. However, those who frequent this page already learned to skip the entries of those you interpreted. Their comments add no insight into any topic.
More lies and FEAR wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:44 PM:Clinton did it, is the Rush Limbaugh answer to every conservative failure. We're spying on Americans, we outed a CIA agent...Clinton's fault. No one said that Clinton was right. See the really good part about being able to make decisions without the ideology anchor around our necks is we don't have to defend any stupidity or corruption by ANYONE. Whatever stupid thing Bush does next you HAVE to defend. We look at whats best for America, not whats best for Bush. It's about America, not Republicans or Democrats. Let's see if this guy is patriotic says Ron, let's see if bombing in WWII was OK? Of course WWII was a war for world survival. You are talking as if the threat when we attacked Iraq was immenent danger. Well we know that was a lie Ron. Ron just wants to kill, you can read it in every line. Hussian didn't drive inside the yellow line.....HURRY DROP BOMBS. This is the conservative way in todays ideology. One, I might add that 2/3's of America doesn't buy anymore. So Ron you're pissed off that Hussian didn't follow UN resolutions, another excuse because you don't give a bleep about the UN anyway. They asked us not to go to war and we did. Guess we don't play be their rules either. No I checked the bi-patisan report that said he has NO WMD's. Bush said, we find no evidence of WMD's. The inspectors on the ground before and after the war said, we find no WMD's. But Ron at home just knows they are there and if he's let off his chain, he'd find them, because conservatives are always right. So now you say it's only the Sunni's and Bathist's not the Shia? Not Sadr?? You know everything Ron. My gosh, are you running for Head of Intelligence. Another typical ploy by Conservatives and idiot ideolouges is that when you question them or their far right moronic thinking, you support terror. You hate America. You don't love God. Ron there are Patriots and there are Loyalists and you sure as heck aren't a Patriot. You're not loyal even to America, you're loyal to the teachings and practices of conservatism as taught by Rove and Cheney.
Nick wrote on Jul 11, 2006 6:44 PM:Wow Ron, well put. Thanks for reminding us all about the real loyalties of our friends in the E.U. and the U.N. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I say out of the U.N. and somebody PLEASE get us out of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America before it's too late, if it's not already.
Note to Saul wrote on Jul 11, 2006 7:01 PM:Are you for real? You must be joking that illegal immigration is the MOST pressing issue for our country. Once North Korea sends its nukes to your ocean front home, you no longer will have anything to worry about as there won't be any "illegal immigrants" and there won't be a California -- period. Where do people like you come from originally anyway?
AlegalAlien wrote on Jul 12, 2006 9:06 AM:Finally, Escondido sees through the arguement that "hardworking illegals are simply trying to make a better life". Taxpayers through the city are paying for their health care, education and even to learn English. We've poured money into the Mission Park area, into ESL programs in our schools and as of late to cover over graffiti. Ordinances to restrict shopping cart usagae are necessary as are those restricting rentals to those who are not here legally in a city that has pandered to those here illegally. Illegals cost the taxpayers and the city millions of dollars in services for which they don't contribute when that money could be spent to better educate our citizen children, provide health care and housing for our elderly and disabled. At least Marie Waldron is attacking the problems caused by illegals, one local law at a time. Amnesty is a slap in the face to those immigrants who followed the laws and played by the rules. Working for a better life shouldn't mean taking a free ride on the backs of taxpaying American citizens!
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