Ken wrote on Oct 12, 2006 9:26 AM:Miramar was there when people built and bought houses nearby. Then they complained about the noise from a military AIR BASE that they knew was there before they built or bought. I must agree that Miramar is a good location BUT - There is a slight problem - the people who own it and live there are not going to leave. I have watched as REALLY prime sites like the area around Brown Field went from vacant (that means USABLE) land to housing/commercial areas. Nero fiddled while Rome burned AND The Airport Authority and their predecessors have wasted millions of dollars and a whole lot of time going for what they WANTED while what they NEEDED slipped right through their fingers.

Jerry ... wrote on Oct 12, 2006 10:18 AM:Regarding the airport at Miramar - why is it that people seem to think the Marines have the right to veto what the people want? Do not forget we are a democracy and the military works for the people of the US, not the other way around. The operations the Marines have at Miramar could be transferred to many otehr locations that would probably benefit their families as they could afford to buy a house or rent for less. Or the land could be shared which should not be their decison.

Long Term View wrote on Oct 12, 2006 12:35 PM:Miramar is the logical place!

North County Resident wrote on Oct 12, 2006 12:38 PM:This vote is easy. I can vote yes, and Miramar might be used, or I can vote no, and drive to an airport in another county (or country)! To the Marines, your welcome for the time you were able to enjoy the central San Diego location.

Ken wrote on Oct 12, 2006 12:52 PM:Yes, the military works for the people. No, the current property owner does not need to bow to the will of simply the people of San Diego. Like it or not, the Department of the Navy is the Owner. And it answers to the President. Like a petulant child, the Airport Commission refuses to take "No." for an answer. Most rational people will select "Door #2 or 3" when they find "Door #1" locked rather than scrape their fingers raw clawing at it. While the Airport Commission was scraping their fingers raw clawing at Door#1, Door#2 went from unlocked to locked. And we keep paying them. Would you pay a contractor who kept failing to do their job because they held out for something that they could not get?

airport authorty debunked! wrote on Oct 12, 2006 6:54 PM: Good thoughts NCT. Very good. The airport authority needs to be dissolved and a new authority formed. they are certainly wasting time and money. If the paid members have a vote they should go. It should take about a year for a new board to select a new site east of the coast and west of I-15. There is plenty air space in that area. Give me the job and I will have it done in a year. I don't bend to political pressure. I love exposing people who apply political pressure for personal gain.

Not Taxpayer Funded wrote on Oct 12, 2006 9:28 PM:Everyone needs a course in airport finance, airport design standards and San Diego airport history. Airports are not taxpayer funded, and Lindbergh is a wash in waivers of FAA standards dating back to the 40's - 150 of them. Miramar is the only option, no amount of technology is going to help Lindbergh either. People need to stop pretending they understand the airport issue. In a perfect flat world you can do much with a single runway, but the world isn't flat and Lindberghs single runway is only available 17 hours a day and there are ample terrain issues that simply cannot be resolved. It never should have been built in the first place, but thats what the Navy wanted, so that's what San Diego got in lieu of a major airport at Montgomery Field near a location the Navy was looking at for a Marine Base now known as Miramar. Check your history and your BS at the door. Had we listend to ourselved 75 years ago rather than the Navy we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Miramar is NOT the only option but no proposition A is wrote on Oct 13, 2006 4:12 AM:Miramar is NOT the only option but no proposition A is. We need send message to our elected officials to fix problems and not to pander to those with deep money pockets. By simply adding a second runway (closer than 4300 feet) to Lindbergh the new runway will at least 25 percent capacity and easily fit into the existing footprint. Shifting cargo and small aircraft to regional locations adds at least another 25%. There we go, plenty of capacity at until at least 2065. All with out having to spend

Airhead wrote on Oct 13, 2006 2:17 PM:The best plan for everyone (Miramar) will soundly be sunk by spoiled and selfish NIMBYs. San Diego's economy and downtown redevelopement will come to grinding halt as Lindberg becomes more and more inefficient. The writing is on the wall, SD slows down while sprawl in NC communities will continue at a torrid pace.

Another Runway at Lindbergh? wrote on Oct 14, 2006 12:31 PM:Seriously, get your head out of the sand. You have any idea how many homes exist under the flight path of that second runway pointed northwest of Lindberghs runway? That Sounds like a great idea, maybe the neighbors will take a check each month in return for not sueing the ever living crap out of the airport? Spend a couple of billion on a runway and get $500 million worth of runway in return? Get real. It's that kind of inept thinking that brought us Lindbergh Field in the first place.

Ken wrote on Oct 14, 2006 3:01 PM:I watched the Las Vegas airport from afar. There was about 1 takeoff every 20 to 55 seconds, tapering off slightly in the wee hours. At ANY time I could see between 3 and 6 planes holding and landing in between the takeoffs. Is that what the residents of Mira Mesa, Tierrasanta, Poway, Scripps Ranch, etc, want - more noise more often, over more hours of the day. It is interesting to note that the deadliest plane crash, that I know of, in San Diego history was a commercial jet going down into houses, NOT a military jet.

Get real Ken wrote on Nov 3, 2006 6:27 AM:PSA crashed before the tower at Lindbergh even had radar, which would have prevented the incident. How many military crashes over the same period? About 6 that I can recall. Vegas is the only airport that can support 24 hour operations in the west. Even LAX has a schedule similar to San Diego. They start up at 6:00 vs. 6:30 and end around midnight. This is the result of hub scheduling which isn't going to change. People don't want to board a flight at 2:00 in the morning, certain flights leave LAX at that time because they are waiting for connecting passengers from the east arriving up to midnight - no need on a direct flight from San Diego. Direct flights to Asia leave around noon and flights to Europe leave around 5:00pm from west coast airports that aren't hubs. Domestic flights vanish at midnight. In 20 years planes will be 50-60% quieter than existing aircraft. An airport at Miramar will never be like Los Angeles or Vegas.

John wrote on Nov 12, 2006 11:20 AM:This airport garbage has been in the works for some time now folks. Remember when the Old Convair plant and Naval training center was shut down?Thousands of acres of land. How all that land was to be used for airport expansion?Take a drive down there some day and see how this land was used. ACE parking lots,Not one single runway improvment. We were lied too than and are still being lied too.Theese fools diddnt even build a parking structure.Anything concerning the Airport and the city and port athority will be voted against by me,(for whatever that effects LOL). I say put the thing about 12 miles offshore.