What Now wrote on Nov 5, 2006 9:42 PM:The excuses never end. Now the scenario being painted by the opposition is that those residing illegally in Escondido will now move into the homes of family, friends or sympathizers which will magnify the problem the City is looking to rectify. This is what happens when you allow a democratic society to allow flexibility in the enforcement of its' laws.

Here we go again wrote on Nov 5, 2006 9:50 PM:It's not a Hispanic/non-Hispanic issue. It's a legal/non-legal issue. If people continue to present this issue in these terms, they're only putting the rest of us into a situation where we will feel we have to declare our legal residency upon entering a room or employment interview based solely on our skin tone or last name. This Blair-Loy guy and the aclu among others are actually doing our people more harm than good by reducing this argument to these simplistic, emotional terms. Attempting to polarize the community on ethnic lines is wrong. If that's the best he can muster, maybe he's on the wrong side of the argument. The news media is not without fault either by fanning the fire and constantly pushing the "race" issue, as if they represent us all. They choose what to write about and what not to write about and also help focus on the bad behavior in order to sell. I'm sorry, there are too many illegal immigrants now, It's just the truth thats all. This whole thing is ugly. Never trust a man with a hyphenated last name.

US citizen wrote on Nov 5, 2006 10:47 PM:Once again the race card is being played regarding the illegal immigrant ban. Ok, let's go there. Not only have these ILLEGAL Hispanics expressed that they have no respect for the laws of the United States and our right to preserve this country, they have also shown that they have no respect for all the law abiding Hispanics that came to this country the right way. I'm curious how it makes them, LEGAL immigrants, feel knowing that these ILLEGALS have disrespected all their time and efforts to becoming part of this country. Fact is, it's the ILLEGAL Hispanics that brought all this on. Estela de los Rios is going to love getting rich off of all of you.

SDMM wrote on Nov 5, 2006 10:56 PM:You DO need papers for Voting! And we'll be watching, photographing and reporting! It is a documented fact that many illegal aliens register to vote illegally and then vote in American elections. Now we say "no mas"!

Schwilk Schmilk wrote on Nov 5, 2006 11:04 PM:How can Schwilk tell if a voter is illegal? By looking at him? Is Mr. Schwilk going to card voters or just intimidate them all? Mr. Schwilk, bring proof of your legal status - If I see you, I'll ask you to prove your not illegal!

HUD: Citizenship Checks Okay wrote on Nov 5, 2006 11:09 PM:The US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) has stated on its website that screening housing applicants on the basis citizenship status does not violate the Fair Housing Act. (www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/library/sept11.cfm) Landlords can rely on HUD. The ordinance opponents are claiming that the Federal administrative agency in charge of fair housing and equal opportunity in the US IS WRONG. According to the HUD website, 'discrimination based solely on a person's citizenship status' is not prohibited by the Federal Fair Housing Act. ACLU has failed to discuss or even mention this HUD policy.

Lobby For Federal Action wrote on Nov 5, 2006 11:16 PM:Congressman Bilbray now supports the Rental Ban. Americans now need to get the attention and action of U.S. Attorney Carol C. Lam. She needs to know that the community will no longer accept her unwillingness or refusal to enforce the Federal law prohibiting the harboring of illegal aliens! Her contact information is at the following link: www.usdoj.gov/usao/cas/

Landlords Are Wise! wrote on Nov 5, 2006 11:34 PM:The landlords evicting illegal immigrants are wise. The harboring of illegal aliens is a federal crime [8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)]. Providing shelter to illegal aliens for private financial gain can land the landlords in prison for 10 years! Americans are working on getting the Feds to again enforce the existing immigration laws. Even if the ACLU gets a TRO against the City's ordinance, that action has no effect on the Feds. Our complaints will not go to waste. We will just send a copy to the Feds. Why would a landlord want to gamble with the possibility of 10 years in prison?

ACLU should not give false hope: wrote on Nov 6, 2006 12:49 AM: Evidently the ACLU does not understand that they are giving hope to criminals that should be on their way back to Mexico, instead of holing up with other criminals. Actually if the criminals were to do the right thing they would turn themselves into the feds. Running is a crime in its self. The above article infers that when the criminals move out of their rented apartments/houses and move in with relatives that it is the fault of the city of Escondido and the citizens of Escondido. The responsibility for potentially creating an overcrowding condition lies with the criminals and those that support them regardless of how slight. The initial crime of crossing the border illegally, the crime of staying in the USA illegally, and the crime of taking and not paying their fair share of taxes seems to get lost in the jumble of the ACLU's advice to the illegal aliens. There is a great deal of difference in an ACLU lawyer giving advice to criminals behind bars and giving advice to criminals on the run, and hiding from law enforcement. Advising a criminal to continue to commit crimes, and even to advising them to evade prosecution by escaping back into Mexico, is a crime in its self and is prosecutable, it seems to me. Perhaps one of the ACLU lawyers could look up laws concerning all that I have said above and let us know if those things are not true.

The ACLU should get it right: wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:37 AM: Anyone who is in our country illegally, is a criminal, non citizen and their rights are not protected by the Constitution of The United States. The truth in that statement can be found in the Preamble to The Constitution; i.e., the first paragraph: "We the people of the United States, - - - do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." It does not say for Mexico or any other country of the world. Those countries have their own constitutions, or should have. Any person who knowingly rents space to a criminal, non citizen, a person in this country illegally, is facilitating the commission of a crime. The person letting the space, and the person renting the space, know they are committing a crime and they know the crime will be on going. It isn't a matter of violating a persons rights - it is a matter of committing crimes. The law must be put on the books of the individual cities because our federal government is laying down on the job and the cities must protect themselves. Escondido is doing a good thing - the federal government isn't. Latino US citizens are suffering and the illegals do not care. That should impact their sentence after they are convicted.

Tells it as I sees it wrote on Nov 6, 2006 4:04 AM:Under the current plan, Francine Busby is correct; you don't need papers to vote. Anyone who has voted knows this. No one asks because it isn't allowed. You walk in, choose a name from the list, or vote provisional. Done deal. Where the question of legality lies is what happens back at headquarters, the County Registrar's Office. That's where you need to go to find the answer. I don't know the answer - do you?

Thank you minutemen wrote on Nov 6, 2006 5:24 AM:for protecting our sacred voting priveleges from these law breaking latino terrorists. You guys do so much for our country! Thank you again!

Miguel wrote on Nov 6, 2006 5:33 AM:What an absolutely incredible showing of "in your face" disregard for the law. They just move like gypsies to someone else's house? What about conforming to the law that says they shouldn't be here illegally? The "children in school" cry is absurd, they shouldn't be here to begin with! What a great demonstration of the insanity of this issue. Break the law, steal benefits, avoid the tax system and be rewarded by the ACLU and Latino support organizations. They want rights? Wait in line like the rest of the world and stop invading America. Most of us are getting tired of the self qualifying for immigration status and theft of benefits.

dennis wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:10 AM:I didn't see the demonstration. What color were the flags this time. Did they at least wise up and wave the red, white and blue or were they still waggling that red, green, and white one?

PapersI wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:14 AM:I have traveled in the U.K. and Europe and I assure you, if you do not have the paperwork, you get tossed out! Period! No amount of complaining will override your lack of legal status there, either by citizenship or visa. Why is the deportation such an issue here? Is it the numbers?

John Q wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:25 AM:It's a shame that INS was not invited to this gathering...

Another wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:49 AM:Item that the landlords are forgetting to mention, is someone is charging each resident in a 2 bedroom apartment $450.00 on a $900.00 rental. 10 illegals equal $4,500.00. If you notice in laundrymats and phone booths around Escondido, you will see rooms for rent, $450.00. $450.00 per month buys you a place on the floor with other illegals. Now the IRS doesn't take to kindly to Tax Evasion, are the landlords pocketing the money? I don't know, but I do know someone is and they are not reporting to the IRS rental income, which I believe is a big Federal Crime. I suggest the people of Escondiodo start reporting these violations to the IRS.

Ohhh wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:52 AM:150 illegals with their children, now there is a mighty voting block. What are they going to do, sign up the children to vote to?

Pat wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:52 AM:It's been 20 years since the last blanket amnesty, and the border has remained porous since then. Now, a generation of anchor babies has grown up and reached voting age. In college now, they are indoctrinated with the MEChA separatist dogma, "With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada." Now we have the ACLU facilitating the mestizo colonization of Aztlán. What's next for the ACLU in the name of human rights? Suing to allow Aztlán to separate from the United States?

It is time wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:53 AM:for the landlords to decide, rent to Illegals or face jail time.

Don't want Citizenship wrote on Nov 6, 2006 8:34 AM:I have lived in So Cal all my life and as I entered the work force I got my true taste of what ILLEGAL immigration is all about. For the most part, I have experienced over the last 30 years, ILLEGALS don't want citizenship. They come here for tax free income and social services, period. Those who DO want citizenship do it the right way. CUT OFF BENEFITS and see how long these Law Breakers hang around. I can guarantee that IF the ILLEGALS were forced to become citizens and assimilate and pay taxes like the rest of us, they would be singing a completely different tune. As it stands right now ILLEGALS have NO rights in America, including the right to vote. I will proudly PROVE my AMERICAN citizenship to anyone who asks, will you?

Concerned wrote on Nov 6, 2006 8:38 AM:Ms Del los Rios: The do not have citizen rights, they will soon not have jobs and there children will soon not be allowed to attend our public schools. The Escondido / Vista movements are just the beginning.

Concerned wrote on Nov 6, 2006 8:40 AM:One thing struck me in this morning's posts. The fact that legal Latinos are being hurt by this. It is true! The truth is all this reaction by illegals, the ACLU and similar groups, is feeding the fire of discrimination. Personally, I feel very sad about that.

bryan wrote on Nov 6, 2006 8:48 AM:We need to pass a new law requiring ID for voting. Arizona just passed it and guess who is fighting them, ACLU. Again the ACLU is for anything that is anti-American or immoral.

De Los Rios is a liar wrote on Nov 6, 2006 8:59 AM:WHAT rights do ILLEGALS have in America? NOT a citizen, the rights afforded CITIZENS do not apply. Please explain WHAT rights are afforded law breaking ILLEGALS in America? Please!

Close Esco Loopholes for illegals wrote on Nov 6, 2006 9:00 AM:Now, Escondido residents, we need to pressure city hall for ordinances limiting the number of people who are able to live in a dwelling by square footage. Other cities have such ordinances, even limiting the number of pets that can be kept, so it should not be difficult to regulate the number of people. Then, we need to make street parking illegal from 2Am to 5 AM like other cities do. That way even if the rental ban ordinance cannot be enforced, we work toward our goal of relieving overcrowding by other means. Of course, having illegals vacate their rentals and self-deport as they did in Hazelton is the best option. But, since they are simply overcrowding at relatives dwellings, we are going to have to close that loophole too.

Landlords Are Wise wrote on Nov 6, 2006 9:12 AM:Landlords are wise to evict illegal aliens. Harboring or sheltering illegal aliens for private financial gain is a federal crime punishable with imprisonment for up to 10 years [8 USC 1324(A)(1)]. Any TRO obtained against the City's Ordinance will still allow Escondido residents to send a copy of their complaints to the Border Patrol and USCIS. It is a gamble to bet that the Federal Government will never enforce its current immigration laws with a growing number of Americans calling for enforcement.

Why are you afraid? wrote on Nov 6, 2006 9:36 AM:Why does it make you so angry that the Latino people wish to educate themselves on their rights? Education is never a bad thing.

Pete Nice wrote on Nov 6, 2006 9:40 AM:So these minutemen are trained to spot fraud & cheating & stuff like that? Everytime I see the minutemen on t.v., I see nothing but Vietnam war vets & soccer moms. How can this group of vigilantes know who is legal & who is not legal just by looking at them?

Vista John wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:03 AM:If they are over crowding homes enforce city health codes, enforce parking laws and enforce building codes NOW. Come on Escondido take some control of your town. The ACLU is a joke!

El Guero wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:16 AM:To paraphrase 'Schwilk Schmilk,' How can [someone] tell if a voter is registered? By looking at him? How is it that 'Latino' and 'civil rights groups' can 'target' Latinos for purposes of voter registration while law enforcement is prohibited from targeting them for purposes of identity and residency status verification? Is there a double standard at work here?

MoMo wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:29 AM:Hold on ..the minutemen looking for voter fraud ..hahahaha ...how would they actually do that? Are they going to stop people on the street and ask for voting information? Will they film voters as they step in to the voting booth? By the way, voter intimidation in the state of california has severe penalties. This is not a good sign and I hope it doesn't disrupt tomorrow's election because I sure don't want to pay for the state to take these knuckleheads to court.

Ray wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:38 AM:You may not need papers but you do need a social security and your ID when you vote. It is very hard to commit voter fraud please do not be afraid of the new wave of latino voters that are creating a conscience and know that voting will make a difference. Politicians should also make note of this.

Marco wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:41 AM:It is unconstitutional trying to implement this new law in Escondido. This is just racism taking place in Escondido. Our local government have failed taking care of this issue. The latino hispanic population always seems to be a target, when we talk about illegal immigration. Our government have given student visas to the middle east. Knowing that we are at risk with this countries. There is no such thing as a background check, when our government gives student visas away. We need to think for a moment, and realized of who our friends are. Thank you.

Ray wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:45 AM:Minuteman should not intefere with the voting rights of anyone, voting intimidation is a crime and must be reported, do not let anyone intimidate you when you vote as it is against the law.

Escondeeter wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:46 AM:150, huh? So... we subtract the Minutemen, law enforcement, the imported out-of-town 'activists', the paid professional protesters, and everyone who's taking money from George Soros and what does that leave us, about three?

Cater wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:50 AM: To "Why are you afraid." It appears that you are purposely trying to cause people to view the illegal alien problem as a Latino problem. Actually race has nothing to do with it. If they are here illegally and running around Scott free that is wrong. Wise up and stop putting pressure on the Latinos/Hispanics.

Backoff MM wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:51 AM:MM your are doing more harm than good. You are an embarresment to the rest of us and you say it's not about race?

Go Ahead! Make my DAY! wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:54 AM:I am Native American, French, and Mexican. My Great, Great, Grandfather faught in the cival war on the Northern side, yet my surname is Spanish. I am brown in color and am educated. I dare one of you minutemen to ask me for my citizenship status. I am disgusted by all the profiling. Being asked if I speak English when shopping at department stores. For all of you ignorant people who do that, be ready for a person like me to tell you what you can do. My Apache ancestors have been raped by this country and now my mexican heritage is being targeted. This does not fall in line with the constitution.

To MoMo wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:57 AM:What legal AMERICAN would be intimidated by a Minute Man on the sidewalk. ILLEGAL immigrants are law breakers, therefore NOT afforded any rights covered by the Constitution of California OR the US. Any person intimidated by valiant crusaders fighting for AMERICAN rights has something to hide. I have NO fear of proving my citizenship to vote, MoMo, why should you?

Backoff: wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:00 AM:You SURE don't speak for me or any other AMERICAN who desires the simplicity of honest elections. Why should any LEGAL citizen fear the presence of Minute Men at voting places? The Minute Men are true AMERICAN heroes, fighting for YOUR rights, every day.

Try it again wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:01 AM:150 activist and latinos at Grape Day Park with lots of children makes a dangerous voting bloc.

The Minute Men are GREAT! wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:04 AM:They aren't an embarrassment. The embarrassment is our government which doesn't enforce our laws. Or Busby who tells a group of illegal aliens they don't need papers to vote!

Landlords wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:04 AM:should be made aware that people are reporting them to the IRS, these apartments go for $900.00 a month, yet all over the City are posted rooms for rent at $450.00, which actually turns out to be a shared room with 4 other illegals. You have ten, that means somebody is pocketing $3,600.00. This is money not reported as rental income.

THE ONE wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:15 AM:BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.....Pleas go away..all of you!

Hey wake up wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:22 AM:As I read your comments, I think boy how can all of these ignorant people have so much hate towards other HUMAN BEINGS. I just hope that one day none of you will ever need one of us Mexicans or as one of you say Latino Terroris to save your life. Because God forbid you will ever have a need for a transplant of any kind. But I have one question for all of you why do you always assume illegals are only Mexicans? Look around and open your eyes, all of these CRAZY people shooting in schools and blowing up Federal buildings, and lets not forget Serial Killers are not MEXICAN they are either White or from some foreign country. Also why is it that you need our latino men and women to go fight in this war against what Latino Terrorist, then turn around and give them their citizenship. My last comment goes to the Minutemen if you show up and ask me for my papers be ready to show me yours.

why the anger? wrote on Nov 6, 2006 12:09 PM: Hey,"make my day" why the anger? I have brown hair; when I go to shop sometimes I am spoken to in SPANISH first. I don't take it as an insult because I am hispanic (I am not). I don't even SPEAK Spanish. I take it as a sign of the times. Same reason they make announcements in SPANISH first and then English at Meryns in Escondido.

Hey wrote on Nov 6, 2006 12:15 PM:I am a 2nd generation immigrant, my relatives came here from Ireland, since the government has decided not to tax immigrants, this means I don't pay taxes correct? This would then shift the whole tax burden to the Native Americans? I think they better start building more casinos!

Texas Border Watch wrote on Nov 6, 2006 12:29 PM:will be the next Hollywood game show, I can see it now, catch that illegal! First one to email Border Patrol wins a prize. What they need to add is some sound and maybe some ray guns!

L.C. wrote on Nov 6, 2006 12:32 PM:No, Estela De Los Rios, illegals don't have ANY rights - they broke the law when they came into our country illegally & you should be put in jail as well for protecting them. Build the fence, heavily fine employers who hire illegals & cut off all the freebies & they will self-deport.

To Ray wrote on Nov 6, 2006 12:52 PM:I will probably faint if I go to vote tomorrow and a poll worker asks me for either a SSN or an ID card. I have never been asked for either. If a man knew your name and address, I'm pretty certain he could vote on your behalf if he got to your polling place before you did.

Maybe we should wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:09 PM:go to Mission Park and vote as Jose, all 2,000 illegal times.

Minute Men wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:17 PM:hopefully will be here in Escondido and other North County Cities tomorrow, to protect the votes from Illegal Criminals.

Tired of Bleeding Hearts wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:18 PM:All you liberal whiners who "feel" that the illegals deserve some sympathy along with their free lunches because they're "human beings" all need to go hug your trees and take a valium. It's o.k. with me if the rest of you losers want to donate your income to the freeloader illegals who expect everything for nothing, but I for one, am not going to stand by and go broke with you. Since you all are so much in favor of harboring criminals at the expense of the taxpayer, you should increase your payroll (assuming you have jobs) deductions to the highest limits, and donate the rest of your income to the ACLU. I'll sit back in my gated estate and keep my weapons loaded and within reach, just in case some homieclown decides my stuff would look better at this house. As for the Roy Garretts in thsi town, get ready for some eviction notices - your gravy train of renting a two bedroom apartment to 14 people is OVER!

WunderKid wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:37 PM:The ACLU is going to have to produce the 2 women they represent, that are here illegally in court. I wonder how long it will take the judge to deport them?

El Diablo is in wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:39 PM:Mission Park and we are going to send him packing!

2nd generation wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:39 PM:I am also a second generation. My family came from Germany, but they did it the LEGAL way. I am afraid to go to Mexico; you never know what could happen to you there. Just smile the wrong way and you could see yourself in Jail. If we tried to go to Mexico and do to them what they are doing to us we would be stopped in a heart beat. I tried to report my neighbor (in San Marcos), to the city and INS, but nothing was done. There were people coming & going all times of the day and night. I had to give my name (and was told it would be kept confidential) and then of course the city employee who contacted my neighbor told them that it was I who complained. Then bad things started to happen. So complaining is also not the best either. It's like the illegal’s have more rights than us legal's. I am tired of them all receiving benefits that I pay into and because the government keeps changing the age and other requirements we legals are denied or we have to wait longer. ILLEGALS GO HOME!!!

Sarah wrote on Nov 6, 2006 1:46 PM:I am a 22 year old American who grew up in Escondido, Let me sum it up in 5 words....I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

Like clockwork wrote on Nov 6, 2006 2:05 PM:Mention "illegals" in an article in the NC Times and all the loonies come out of the woodwork in these comment sections. If I didn't know that this was nothing more than a fringe group of hateful, ignorant fanatics who infest Vista and Escondido I'd be ashamed to be an American.

I have complained wrote on Nov 6, 2006 2:07 PM:and I have gotten rid of the grafitti gotten rid of the gangbangers, though I did have to spend 24/7 on the phone with the police. I had to sign a depo with the San Diego DA, now all I have left is getting rid of the illegals, just keep bugging Border Patrol and write Bilbray and demand that he put a fire under the Border Patrol and you will get a response, it also helps to notify the Police what you are doing as they can also request Border Patrol.

About Time wrote on Nov 6, 2006 2:32 PM:Even if this ends up in the courts, the politicians in Washington have obviously stood up and say hey there is a problem here. You can thank spoiled kid Bush and his cronies for this. By the way, before you think I am a liberal; wrong, I am a Goldwater conservative.

Mention wrote on Nov 6, 2006 2:43 PM:Criminals and all of Escondido comes out to vote, to get rid of them.

Have you noticed wrote on Nov 6, 2006 2:53 PM:how the government is still saying they want a guest worker program yet they keep millions of non-working illegals in the country. They might think they are fooling the citizens, but all can see that the politicans want mass amensty for all illegals.

Sad to see wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:11 PM:Tomorrow the democrats could take over our country if the republicans don't get out and vote. I hate saying that but thanks to President Bush this is what will happen. All you republicans out there better go to the polls because you are really needed. If we let the democrats take over, the illegals will be coming in by boat loads. Not that they aren't already.

You got your rights! wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:13 PM: To "Go Ahead, Make my day!" You are in an unfortunate situation, and you have the full protection of the Constitution backing you. My ancestors came to Jamestown in 1640. My grandma of that time, Sally Higginson, had 17 children by three husbands. Her off springs include 23 presidents, including the current one, and about three quarters of the people United States, and could include you, cousin. Doesn't matter, if you need help getting the people off your back out of our country, legally of course, that are here illegally, and causing us all this trouble, let me know. I will come running to lend a hand.

Ummm.... wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:17 PM:What is the ACLU going to do about law enforcement officers across the country taking the 5 week course from ICE? When these officers come back to their cities and towns there will be orders to show ID or papers, can't get away from it when its Federal Officers doing the asking.

I would like a minute man: wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:18 PM:To try to take my picture or anything else.

Concerned wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:24 PM:I've been voting absentee for years, but I do remember always showing my license when I went to the polls.

Wake Up wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:40 PM:Hey Sara 22 yr old American. Did you go to school, did YOU read your history books? Well if you did then I would advise you to go back and get an education on California History. Maybe then you can sum it up and get your answer. Have a nice day

I can hardly wait wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:47 PM:for the Arizona version of Texas Border Watch, this is fun I have already reported illegals!

Longtime Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2006 3:50 PM:The solution to enforcing this law (when it becomes effective) is very simple. Whenever a resident moves to Escondido from someplace else, or even moves to another residence in the city, the person MUST register his/her residency with City Hall. City Hall gives that person approval in written form (which also can be confirmed at City Hall). Problem solved. A piece of cake for any landlord. The only problem I see is that a lot of illegal aliens don't respect our laws, but the above approach would solve it.

Consider this: wrote on Nov 6, 2006 4:16 PM:Israel proposed that every Palistinian carry papers identifying him/her. Perhaps that should be done for all illegal aliens. Whoops, then the Kinessit realized that is what Nazi Germany did to the Jews. Don't get me wrong, I don't like this invasion, but let's not denegrate ourselves to reach a solution.

Skip wrote on Nov 6, 2006 4:27 PM:First of all, if Democrats win the House tomorrow, Pelosi won't only be the first woman speaker, she will also be the wealthiest. How much is this unassuming "grandma" worth? The Center for Responsive Politics puts her in the $55 million neighborhood. Pretty nice neighborhood, huh? Despite her protestations about those "tax cuts for the rich," she has never mentioned returning them to the federal Treasury where they rightfully belong. Go figure. Pelosi, the winner of the 2003 Cesar Chavez award from the United Farm Workers, hires only non-union workers on her $25 million Napa Valley vineyard. Maybe this explains her firm opposition to any efforts to enhance border security and the flow of illegal cheap labor into the country from Mexico.

Life in Escondido wrote on Nov 6, 2006 4:29 PM:Everyone who hates lives in fear, Escondido has a lot of haters. When you see the protest, who do you see? Families who are scared, does that make anyone happy? How can you sleep at night? You need to see the future. Palms springs has 4 out of 5 city council members are gay, because there is a large gay population. All those children you see that are scared will be voters in four years. The only thing your hate is doing is encouraging an entire population to become involved in the political process. You can’t hate the blacks, the Asians, or the homosexuals because of laws. You think the Hispanic population is going to forget this? After reading this, I know you won’t be sleeping at night because of your own fear.

I live in wrote on Nov 6, 2006 4:52 PM:Escondido TJ, and I sleep great! Now the gangbangers might not be sleeping too good....

Cater; wrote on Nov 6, 2006 5:06 PM: To "Wake up." Why would I want to read Californa history. Been there done that. I'm concerned with the history being made today, right now! The direction to take, for those that are here illegally is south!

Life in Aztlán wrote on Nov 6, 2006 5:25 PM:I see the future and it is Aztlán. "For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada." These are the hateful, racist words of the ethnic MEChA hustlers who organize the protests. They proudly proclaim it on their web sites. They make demands of the white, black and Asian populations and defy immigration laws to allow people of their favored mestizo race unrestricted entry into this country and unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded benefits once here. Anyone resisting their demands is called a hater and a racist. In fact, these left wing radicals have dealt a big blow to race relations in this country.

Thanks Minutemen wrote on Nov 6, 2006 5:43 PM:You rock.

Very Sad wrote on Nov 6, 2006 6:28 PM:Its to bad somebody somebody might ask me for proff of citizenship when I go and vote tomorrow. I have never been asked for proof. Thanks to all the Latino activist, minutemen, and bigots!!

2 the complainers wrote on Nov 6, 2006 6:45 PM:To those of you who think we Escondido residents are hateful, an embarrassment... Tell you what, I'll give you a free room to live in my house for 30 days. You won't last two weeks. Heaven help you if you should need our emergency room. Is there some reason you live somewhere else? Come on over to our city! LOL

Todd wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:12 PM:Im confused,if I don't pay my taxes,I pay a fine and possibly go to jail.The illegals get support from the ACLU,our Mayor and NC Times staff writer David Fried.The last time I checked,Tax evasion is against the law!!Just ask Wesley Snipes.Become legal,conform to our laws and i'll have you over for dinner.

What's Wrong ... wrote on Nov 6, 2006 7:27 PM:Why are the illegals so afraid of the Minutemen? They are just regular folks who take a stand against illegal immigration. If a US citizen exercises their right to observe a polling station, deal with it! If you are legal to vote you have nothing to worry about. If you are illegal you have every thing to worry about. Viva La Migra!

Reardon wrote on Nov 6, 2006 8:53 PM:We tend to think of illegal aliens as from Mexico, Central and South America – but in San Francisco and even LA there are many illegal aliens from China, New England has more than its share of illegal Irish and Eastern Europeans, and Florida suffers from illegal Haitians. American citizens with Latino heritage should join in the effort to rid our ranks of ALL illegal citizens from whatever heritage before the arrival of the 70% of citizens now in Mexico who the Pew Research Center reports would live here if they could. All American citizens should join in getting this situation under control in an orderly fashion. La Migra has not just been lax on our southern border.

Roberto wrote on Nov 9, 2006 7:52 PM:Whats wrong...I'm not afraid of the minute [men]. I dispise those that are enbedded with them. With that said..vote for compehensive immigration reform, ID's ect. All this other garbage is nothing but cyberbabble by a bunch of cyber-nazi's running around trying to create a mass hysteria.

Vince wrote on Nov 10, 2006 3:07 PM:Roberto I agree with you. These spurious arguments blamming mexicans for everything from global warming to high taxes are inane. I bet non of the haters will reference Gary Knight's artlice in today's NC Times on the north county agriculture's boost to the economy. Each farm job creates four nonfarm jobs. Guess who works the farm? Also, the nursery and flower crops add $990 million to the local economy. The anti-immigrant hate groups stick to myths and assertions that are inacurate to spread the hate.

Roberto and vince wrote on Nov 10, 2006 6:56 PM:It is not the Mexicans that people are angry with, it is the government that allowed them here without secure borders. It just so happens Mexico is close by. And by these activist saying they have the same rights as US citizens is what riles everyone. When in enough enough? I think most people hear want secure borders and someone is going to get hurt in the end. I feel the hatred coming from you. That makes you no better than the few racist that are here.

Mark wrote on Nov 11, 2006 10:19 AM:I don`t know how rich a landlord could get off of them because once an apt, or house is rented out to illegals, it might just as well be considered "disposable property." After 5-7 families live in it (at the same time and under one name) the place is most likely condemned. Investers might gain from them, they could call it a "Long Term Demolition"

Oceanside resident wrote on Nov 11, 2006 7:51 PM:Anyone who enters the country illegally is "breaking the law!" Have respect for citizens of this country by using front door! It is unsafe to allow this many people to show up unannounced!! If you are not legally here-you are not paying your fair share of Taxes-period! This has an effect on our healthcare system!!! Free care provided to you is seen as a loss in revenue to hospital- and therefore effects its ability to keep their doors open to those of us who pay in taxes for services. I object to anyone coming into this country illegaly- it just so happens that mexico seems to provide California with more illegals than it can handle. Sorry-no offense!!

Oceanside resident wrote on Nov 12, 2006 5:48 PM:I do not think smugglers care about the type of people they are sneaking into our country. I have also not forgotten about the illegal who killed OPD officer. Maybe majority are hardworking people just trying to earn an honest living but again- people will respect you more if you have respect for our rules of law!!!

Roberto wrote on Nov 12, 2006 10:44 PM:"I think most people hear want secure borders and someone is going to get hurt in the end. I feel the hatred coming from you. That makes you no better than the few racist that are here. " REPLY: The few racist? I hate to tell you and your boyfrind, but this mass hysteria appears to be escalating against Mexicans & Mexican-Americans. When you see the garbage that gets posted between the ligitamate immigration reform diologue you have to admit. These people are out to destroy Mexicans and have no other agenda.