Let's see the video wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:54 PM:The initial story about this assault the NCT reported that Herrera (with his hands behind his back) pushed Perez with his hips and shoulders. Sounds like a clear case of assault to me. Perez had every right to speak his mind at the rally (even if it was a "minuteman" rally) - it's called freedom of speech. Herrera however, does not have the right to "push" anyone. Prosecute this bully (Herrera) to the fullest! The EPD better do something!

Lisa wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:00 PM:Hey Herrera - go back to Victorville and mind your own town's business. As a resident (& caucasian) of Escondido, I don't appreciate you coming to MY town and starting trouble. I hope you are charged with assault. Your comments reveal your arrogance and your vigilante state of mind. Stay in Victorville and take care of your town and we'll take care of ours. Better yet - go to Washington DC and tell the Feds to do their JOB (and please take Schwilk (from Oceanside) with you. And before you even start...I am not pro-illegal immigrant - I'm just not on the same "better than thou" page as you!

Vigilantes wrote on Nov 6, 2006 11:20 PM:is what the minutemen are. They are aggresive people who have nothing better to do than harrass people. They don't even live in our city and they want to come all righteous and act like they have a valid opinoin about our affairs. Minutemen go home! Crawl back under the rock you came from. No one wants your hate and rhetoric.

Freddy wrote on Nov 7, 2006 12:52 AM:Saddly this kindo' of thing goes on from both, both sides. And it detracts from the great North American right to publicily express things. And one side or the other will attempt to draw, taunt, or tempt the other into a confrontation, thus both sides loose. And the attorney wins the money, ha, ha, saddly.

Arrest Danny Perez! wrote on Nov 7, 2006 1:15 AM:This illegal alien activist is a stalker and purposely disrupted the Latino-American Press Conference when he started heckling the speaker. He refuesed to stop or leave and provoked the confrontation with the Latino supporters. I hope the Americans get a restraining order against Perez and other open border Latino vigilantes and their third world tactics.

El Guero wrote on Nov 7, 2006 5:06 AM:Lisa's right. We'll take care of our town. First, we'll aggressively enforce the housing ordinance. The illegal aliens will leave and the bottom feeders like Perez and Flores will follow.

Robin wrote on Nov 7, 2006 6:18 AM:I was at this press conference. Perez aggressively yelled out. In this country we have the right to PEACEFUL assembly - Perez arrived at the event and AGGRESSIVELY verbally attacked at a press conference. Perez is about the twice as big as the little guy in the photo. PEREZ was shoving! Perez was the aggressor. Perez shouted down the speaker and verbally attacked - this verbal aggression is NOT allowed in our country - he did NOT peacefully assemble! In addition, I saw Perez smiling, trotting about, yelling - if he is so injured WHY was he able to talk and stay and verbally assault? In addition, when the press conference was over I saw Perez trotting down the sidewalk, smiling. NOT an injured person!

How ridiculous wrote on Nov 7, 2006 6:26 AM:If Danny bruised and started urinating blood after something as minor as a "hip check" he should probably consider living in a plastic bubble. I can't imaging what would have happened to him if he ever played organized sports.

Ya sure wrote on Nov 7, 2006 6:26 AM:Who's to say Perz didn't walk in frort of Herrera then claim he was pushed? I certainly don't believe one word form Perez' mouth. He's an activist sympathizer for CRIMINAL ILLEGAL's. No credibility at all.

San Marcos resident wrote on Nov 7, 2006 6:50 AM:My neighbor is a Minuteman supporter and attended an Escondido City Council meeting during the illegal rental ban vote. He sat in back in an area where there were alot of available seats. A woman then sat in front of him, and a very large man next to him. The woman turned around and put a camera a few inches from him and began filming his face. Wnen he protested, the man next to him elbowed his side and slammed his face with his open hand. My neighbor asked one of the officers to arrest him for assault. Bottom line: my neighbor decided against filing charges because of the threat of retribution. The guy had 5 ID's.

Ral American wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:09 AM:Lt. David Mankin who are the witness?.....Are those witness members of the minutemen?........Let’s see on which side the Escondido police department stands. …Escondido police department, please DO NOT support these racist, extremist groups.

Get the Facts before you speak!! wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:09 AM:NCT does so much to inflame yet little to tell the truth in this situation. The peaceful press conference was going on without any problem. It was Danny Perez who decided to interrupt and be where he wasn't invited or welcome. Perez wanted his fifteen minutes of fame with the press. Urinating blood? Are you kidding? There are so many people with video from that day that will show there was no such contact and if there are bruises, they weren't from that day. Open border advocate Perez will do anything for press attention and to try to help others break the law. NCT is only helping this along. What should of been a peaceful press conference for a great start up chapter of YDSFM was ruined by Danny Perez. He knew exactly what he was doing. He's not the victim. Those of you making him so, are wrong and know not of what you speak!

Pacific Heights wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:14 AM:Danny Perez snuck into the middle of the crowd and then tried to shout down the speaker. The police should be charged with a violation of the speaker's free speech rights.

Concerned American wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:15 AM:Minutemen I understand your frustration on your loosing racist crusade.....Minutemen what’s next shooting bullets?

Jack wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:17 AM:Tennessee's version of the minutemen are mostly recycled Klansmen. What's next for Escondido? Black hoods?

No charges wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:19 AM:Danny Perez didn't file any charges because he knows darn well he instigated this whole incident. Danny Perez disrupted a press conference by a group called " You don't speak for me" He was asked to be quite until the conference was over or leave. Perez started shouting and continued to be disruptive. Perez didn't file charges because there where no charges to be filed. Perez elbow a woman in the chest that was in the crowd. There are pictures of Perez chest butting another man that was video taping the whole thing. Thats when Herrara used his body shield to get Perez away. NCT is so one sided. NCT was there they know what really happened. Why is NCT printing more lies????

Hate Crime? wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:26 AM:Latinos hating latinos! What a joke! A La Raza supporter punched a rental ban supporter in the face inside the City Council chambers on October 18. The NCTimes reported it as a an 'argument' http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/10/19/news/top_stories/1_01_2500_17_06.txt

NCT Sucks! wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:42 AM:The North Commie Times just lost another 1000 readers with this fictional account of what was happening that day. They better start printing in Spanish because soon that is the only people that will want to read such blantant left wing lies and pro-illegal garbage. Danny provoked this entire incindent and NCT portrays him as the victim. Nice job NCT, we've got your number.

Amy wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:50 AM:Danny Perez was harassing Americans! If he was pushed that is why! Americans have the right to speak out! Get lost illegal aliens!!!!

Filing a false suit again wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:50 AM:Here they go again filing false charges.He starts the confrontation and is then gently pushed (according to your own report) by someone's hip or belly and now he has internal bleeding and bruises.Give me a break. Can you say fabrication.A strong punch to the abdomen most likely will not cause blood in the urine and this guy gets blood in his urine from a body to body push. I am shocked that NCT would stoop so low as to publish such a lie. What is your agenda? It should be the truth. If a crime had been committed the police would have arrested Mr. Herrerra or Mr. Perez on the scene. It is all a lie to get press coverage and to intimidate and you know it. Shame on you NCT.

Anti-Border Strategy! wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:58 AM:Danny Perez disruption was part of a coordinated strategy. Last September, the 'Friends of the Border Patrol' was 'forced to change the site of Friday's news conference announcing the patrol twice within 24 hours because word of the locations was leaked to the "opposition."' http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/09/17/news/sandiego/15_39_259_16_05.txt

Disrupter Perez wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:05 AM:If the Escondido Police Chief was addressing a group of citizens and loudmouth Perez disrupted the speach how long would it take for the police to shut Perez up? Answer: No time at all. And thats exactly how long it should have taken EPD to prevent Perez from distupting a public announcement of American "You don't speak for me" Latinos.

Nick wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:07 AM:You guys crack me up. It looks like Perez was scared for his life. I mean look at the picture, Herrera is at least a foot and a half shorter, 25 years older and no where near the physical stature of Perez, I would be scared too. It's just typical of the Latino activists, run your mouth, incite people by being rude and then cry that nobody is playing fair. Get a grip and send the ILLEGALS packing. Lisa, Escondido doesn't just belong to you, but a whole lot of other folks too. I was born and raised there. How about you, or did you move there so you could live in Tijuana with out having to actually move to Mexico.

Violent Disruptions wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:09 AM:Search for 'Minutemen Training Disrupted' on the internet. Here is a quote from September 17, 2005, 'A group of around 50 demonstrators showed up at the Scottish Masonic Rite Center this morning to interrupt and stop the Friends of the Border Patrol training session. During almost half an hour of intense confrontations, activists tore down the table and flag where registration was happening and entered the hall chanting "No Borders, No Racists, No Borders, No Nations" and "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us". For a time the activists also blocked off the entrance to the hall. After a while, the police showed up. Immediately, they assisted the racists by handcuffing and detaining anyone who they pointed out and made accusations about. The police told the group they had to move to the sidewalk or be arrested. After a while of chanting at the training attendees coupled with "Let Them Go", the two people detained were released. The white activist was released after only giving his name, while the person of color detained was cited with a misdemeanor charge.'

Does Danny wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:09 AM:know it is illegal to file a false report? Oh wait he is for illegals, so laws mean nothing to him and his group, I forgot sorry.

I was There wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:17 AM:I am totally agianst illegal aliens, but Perez has a right to speak. He was absolutley bullied by the protesters. EPD did a fine job my pulling Perez out before it got worse. EPD also did a fine job on interviewing people for proper documentation. KUSI has the whole thing on film.

Does anyone else wish wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:33 AM:For MORE days without Mexicans like we had May 1st? How about a YEAR without illegals...

Sad Sad wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:35 AM:The minutemen set a bad example. What happens when that hate flows into the schools and kids start attacking or killing eachother. How can we expect our kids to show restraint when the parents don't.

Remember Columbia University wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:55 AM:The Anti-American mobs are mobilizing. I saw parts of the video on TV. Danny Perez had embedded himself in the crowd and was doing his best to provoke a fight. The Escondido Police were way too negligent on this one.

Skip wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:57 AM:The minutemen are so careful to avoid confrontations and racism. This perez guy should be brought up on charges for filing a false police report. I have met Mr. Herrera on several occasions and I know what he stands for. I guess the activists are getting frustrated that the name calling is not very effective anymore.

Escondeeter wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:06 AM:Calif. Penal Code Section 403... Every person who...wilfully disturbs...any assembly or meeting that is not unlawful in its character...is guilty of a misdemeanor. Looks to me like the wrong person filed charges.

THE ONE wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:12 AM:Escondido is a very racist city.

liar, liar, wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:12 AM:Liars never seem to learn that too much detail illustrates the lie. The "blood in urine" detail is an example of too much "convincing" detail which make every claim made suspect. What do you suppose would happen to someone who attended a Grupo [used to be called Grupo sin nomber] meeting and starting yelling and disrupting the meeting?

mike wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:18 AM:take care of your own town, why isnt that in mexico,go home and try your complaining there and see what happens

CHERIE wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:22 AM:DANNY PEREZ THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM AT THE FRONT OF COUNCIL WAS FOAMING AT THE MOUTH!! TRUE!! HE WAS SO OUT OF CONTROL THAT HIS MESSAGE COULDN'T BE HEARD BECAUSE THE PATRIOTS WERE SINGING "GOD BLESS AMERICA" HE WAS LOSING IT! THIS MAN IS SCARY AND HIM FILING SUIT IS JUST TO STICK IT TO A PATRIOT. NO OTHER REASON. HE CANT HAVE HIS WAY SO HE WILL HURT THEM ANY WAY HE CAN. TRYING TO GIVE THE MINUTEMEN A BAD NAME. GOOD LUCK! THEY ARE THE ONLY GOOD THING THAT IS KEEPING THIS IMMIGRANTION ISSUE INFRONT OF THE PUBLIC AND WE LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!! LAST TIME I LOOKED THIS WAS STILL AMERICA AND IF HE CANT CONDUCT HISELF AS ONE THEN MAYBE HE SHOULD STAY HOME.

Can you say false charges wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:27 AM:Why would you print such an article especially after you had reported about the incident already?Your prior report didn't mention any kind of violence that would create bruises,blood in the urine.This is just another false lawsuit brought about by the supporters of illegal aliens. They never cease to amaze me! No integrity, belief in the truth or respect for our laws and the court!Are you going to lie in court Mr. Perez. That is called perjury. Remember the incident was on film!

XYZ wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:53 AM:TO ESCONDEETER: That Penal Code section does not apply to a public place.

cherie wrote on Nov 7, 2006 10:02 AM:MS.Sad Sad, do you know that my grand babies are doing bad in school because they are left to tend to there own work while our teachers are assisting ones that need EXTRA HELP because they dont speak or dont speak much English! true! My grandbabies say that they are rude and speak in spanish on the play grounds and look at them and laugh. I would say it is in our schools already. I am worried for all our children. I dont think a study was EVER DONE to see what kind of EFFECT this would have on our Citizens that are children. What a mess our country is in. I just dont get it, from what I see on the news there is lots of jobs in industry for the poor of Mexico. I wish they would go home and straighten out there own mess down there! I want my country back! PLEASE VOTE TODAY!

Mike wrote on Nov 7, 2006 10:30 AM:When any entity feeds off another being, it becomes a parasite. Today, illegal aliens are devouring the United States like parasites. Worse, our elected submissives in Congress make it possible by ignoring our immigration laws. They allow illegal parasites to suck the financial lifeblood out of our country while they destroy our educational, medical, financial and other infrastructural resources. In the final analysis, no democratic society can indefinitely allow a relentless flood of illegal immigrants to contravene its laws, violate its borders, overwhelm its infrastructures and social systems, diminish employment possibilities for its indigenous uneducated and poor, and degrade its way of life, as is happening here in California, and throughout our nation. Escondido's council members are the vanguard of a growing national movement to take back our country. The ACLU reminds me of King George 111, and you can imagine what would have happened if our forefathers knuckled-under to the British monarchy in 1776. I hope they keep this in mind.

escondeeter wrote on Nov 7, 2006 10:52 AM:To XYZ: Really? The law that prohibits disrupting public meetings doesn't apply in public places? Care to cite a case that supports that premise?

Hate Crime... wrote on Nov 7, 2006 11:24 AM:The funniest thing about this all is the fact that Perez is calling for Herrera to be charged with a hate crime... Does anyone else find this humourous??? Maybe gang members should be charged with hate crime enhancements too. Don't they hate the other gang memembers that they commit crimes against? "Yes, your honor, I shot him in the stomach twice, but, I didn't hate him at the time..."

SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!!!!!!!!! wrote on Nov 7, 2006 11:40 AM:The minute men kids do the same; THEY ARE HATERS. Four years ago, about three Caucasian kids ages 12 to 13 years old threw stones at my sister, my friend, and me when we were waiting for the bus. It was really humiliating they called us bad words that would make feel a person less than nothing "go home dirty immigrants”. They based their hate on brown people because my physical appearance made them believe that I was an "illegal immigrant.” But how did they know? ahh.? My family has been living in CA since the 70's, and I'm 100% natural born CITIZEN. I call such act stereotyping. Anyway, one stone hit my leg, for their fortune, they did not hit me in my head, so I'm still alive. I did not denounce them because I was only 15 years old and I did not want my parents to deal with such issues because at that time we were dealing with other important issues. I kept it to myself because I know those kids are their parents' reflection. They think and believe what their parents think. Shame on them!!! That guy Herrera shame on him. He is Latino and he supports such ideas of "hatred" when his great-grandparents were immigrants and I don't think they came to US legally. Hopefully his kids don't think like him because such education is causing our kids shot at each other at school. But it does not matter, the issue is that he wants to be accepted in the "Real American society.”He joined the Minutemen because if he changes sides he will be rejected and maybe considered an "illegal immigrant” because his physical features. The bad news is that whatever minute men do, city councils do; illegal immigration will not be solved because it is a world problem just like global warming. Little things that you do in preventing global warning don't work and the same for illegal immigration. Violence like this will keep increasing maybe we will face another KKK era, another "separate but equal era." everything you do is SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Concerned wrote on Nov 7, 2006 11:44 AM:I wasn't there but I've heard plenty about Daniel Perez and his tactics. The truth will prevail, and the real racists will be exposed. That is if you're not too dumb to see it.

I am joining the wrote on Nov 7, 2006 12:34 PM:Minute Men and so are my neighbors in Escondido, we are beyond feed up with illegals! DEPORT THEM NOW!

Long Live wrote on Nov 7, 2006 12:36 PM:You Don't Speak For Me and the Minute Men!

First Amendment Limit wrote on Nov 7, 2006 1:12 PM:Penal Code 415(3): 'Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which are inherently likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.' It is a misdemeanor! Anyone have a recording of what the 'victim' was shouting?

Adam wrote on Nov 7, 2006 1:19 PM:I vote that we use "Danny Perez" as the poster boy on why we need the "Minutemen". I just signed up. At least The Minutemen are promoting Public Awareness and this will help kickstart the Politicians. The major policy of the Minutemen has been to be Non-Confrontational, and Non-Racist. There is nothing wrong with Americans who want to protect America.

Bombdog wrote on Nov 7, 2006 2:28 PM:I find it hilarious that this punk, Perez, called the Minutemen "bullies" who threaten and intimidate the poor innocent souls that support illegal immigration. I went to several Minutemen rallies and the aggressive, outwardly violent, hateful rhetoric and actions were ALL perpetuated by those who advocate pen borders. How convenient that that try to paint the minutemen as the villians. What a joke.

Cochise/Geronimo wrote on Nov 7, 2006 2:33 PM:I am racist because my land was stolen from my people by the white man. I am racist because my people were slaughterd by the white man. I am racist because the white man never kept there word by breaking every treaty written. I am racist because my people that were left, were moved to other territories. I am racist because the white man invented scalping. I am racist because the white man burned our villages. I am racist because the white man stole our horses. I am racist because the white man killed our buffalo for their skin only. I am a racist because the white man is the true illegal immigrant.

Gary wrote on Nov 7, 2006 2:45 PM:I'm a racist because I asked my government to uphold the law and deport illegal aliens. I'm a racist because I believe law enforcement agents should be empowered to handle all matters concerning illegal aliens. The INS is impudent. I'm a racist because I asked my city government to uphold city codes and not allow single family dwellings to be occupied by dozens of people. I'm a racist because I asked my state government not to give drivers licenses and/or driving certificates to illegal aliens. I'm a racist because I asked fellow Americans to employ fellow Americans. I'm a racist because I object to paying higher uninsured motorist premiums because of illegal aliens driving while uninsured and killing fellow Americans. I'm a racist because I strongly object to the criminal element illegal aliens bring with them and inflict on society. I'm a racist because I don't want to be taxed to pay for a prison population comprised of mainly Hispanics, Latinos, Mexicans or whatever else you wish to call them. I'm a racist because I demand that my government protect our borders and our sovereignty. I'm a racist because I believe that the News Media has a duty to tell us the names and race of criminals. I'm a racist because I object to having to pay higher sales tax and property tax to build more schools for the illegitimate children of illegal aliens. I'm a racist because I object to paying higher taxes to absorb the loses hospitals all across America are incurring because of illegal aliens. I'm a racist because I object to our welfare system being raped by illegal aliens. I'm a racist because I object to corporations and municipalities spending billions to write everything in Spanish. I'm a racist because I object to corporation and municipalities spending billions to translate everything in Spanish. I'm a racist because I dislike having to push one for English and/or listening to a message in Spanish. I'm a racist because I object to our immigration policies giving preferential treatment illegal aliens while discriminating against people who wish to immigrate legally. Factual is not racial. Realism is not racism. The new definition of a racist is anyone winning an argument with a liberal, minority, pacifist, bible banger, or moron.

R-A-C-I-S-T wrote on Nov 7, 2006 3:13 PM:REAL AMERICAN COMMITTED to INTEGRITY, SOVEREIGNTY and TRUTH

Concerned wrote on Nov 7, 2006 3:48 PM:Ahhhh Cochise, do you have anything else to say? Anything?

You're Right Gary wrote on Nov 7, 2006 3:57 PM: "I'm a racist because I don't want to be taxed to pay for a prison population comprised of mainly Hispanics, Latinos, Mexicans or whatever else you wish to call them." You're right Gary, you are a racist.

What a country .... wrote on Nov 7, 2006 4:18 PM:5 million of our older Americans have not signed up yet for their Medicare, Part D, drug plan------they are old and confused. We are not going to grant them an extension. However, 12 million illegal aliens are in our country and we are going to allow them to stay, protest, procreate, receive support monies, attend schools, avoid paying income taxes, have our teachers take 300 hours of ESL (English as a Second Language) training at our expense, etc.

THE ONE wrote on Nov 7, 2006 4:26 PM:Why oh why..does the NCTimes continue to print such hogwash? First of all lets keep the terminology correct. To blantant say Mexicans this Mexicans that is very offensive to us Americans of Mexican descent.I AM A PROUD AMERICAN and these ramblings are quite reminiscent of the beginnings of how Hitler's Reich started.If you take everyones comments above and replace the word Mexican,Illegal Immigrant and Spanish with the word JEWS,BLACKS,IRISH....then replace every word of minutemen/man with the word K.K.K.,Reich and Lynchmob you would hear how silly you all sound and find something out about your selves as well.

Why don't the wrote on Nov 7, 2006 4:32 PM:illegals learn English? As it stands now they only know two words: GIMME and RACISTS!

to :THE ONE wrote on Nov 7, 2006 4:41 PM:It is quite simple really. Illegal Aliens cost the American Taxpayers a lot of money. It has come down to Americans against Illegal Aliens. It is a matter of Overpopulation, dwindling natural resources, and America's quality of life. We did not just make up the immigration Laws yesterday, and that is why it is so frustrating when our government has been ignoring them. The American people are fed up. 80% of Americans feel that illegal Immigration is a very serious issue. 200 million people here in 1970, 300 million people here today, and in 20 years from now over 400 million people. I may not be here in 20 years, but I hope my children will be and I hope they have an America that somewhat resemble the America I grew up with.

Gary wrote on Nov 7, 2006 4:43 PM:RE : Why don't the wrote on November 07, 2006 4:32 PM:"illegals learn English? As it stands now they only know two words: GIMME and RACISTS!" >>> You forgot "XENOPHOBE" and "VIGILANTE"

To Gary wrote on Nov 7, 2006 4:49 PM:I stand corrected. Thank you.

Alfonso wrote on Nov 7, 2006 5:37 PM:to Cochise/Geronimo...Ok, Native tribes (in America and around the world) fought over territory for centuries (yes, killed each other, raped each others women, etc..), whole tribes of Native peoples wiped out without a White man in sight. Your animosity is understandable but your wisdom needs a little work. You're in the wrong argument. Start a new blog about territorial rights someplace else, this is about illegal immigration and abuse of benefits and taxes in the land of America. Or would you have us just attack them at a tribal level?

Alan wrote on Nov 7, 2006 5:45 PM:T0...THE ONE....yes, Escondido may be Racist now but we are trying to deport the offenders back to their home countries because they have tried to overrun us. Tough problem but we are solving it.

To cochise wrote on Nov 7, 2006 6:40 PM:Weren't the apes here first.

I am Mexican wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:01 PM:and You Don't Speak For Me!!!!! I am a veteran and have been in the community for years. I am pro-borders and pro-English....Come on fellow Mexicans who are law abiding U.S. Citizens..Time to stand up with your fellow Americans!

Samuel wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:03 PM:If I committed a Robbery against you, which is against the law (Illegal), and got caught. Now, you would want me to be punished for committing this illegal act right? Are you a racist because you said yes, or did you say yes because I did something illegal and should be punished for that act. "Illegal immigration" is the same concept. They "Illegally" come to this country, "Illegally" using our (American citizen's) facilities, using our health care, our medical, our schools, etc.. I support any bans and laws in regards to getting rid of "illegal" immigrants. Most of you are getting ready to yell and scream that I am a racist. Ok, slander me with your ignorance, but also know this, I also support anyone who enters into this counrty "Legally" and is here to fullfill their dreams of opprtunity. Its really not that hard.

Samuel wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:09 PM:Oh, just one more thing. There is also another way for all illegals to enter into this country, get their resident cards, and be ok with no citizenship. It's joining our Military, fighting for our country, and defend our country's freedom.

To Samual wrote on Nov 7, 2006 7:31 PM:Please! I am active duty military . The military does not knowingly take Illegal Aliens. There are aptitude tests involved, and you must read, write, and speak English. The minimum is; that you have a Permanent Resident Card (legal resident), so that makes your point weak. Now with that being said, some of the ships I have been on seem like they are over 50% Hispanic manned. There is definitely no shortages of Hispanics Americans in the military. They are just as good or just as bad as any other group of people. Please do not insinuate that we need Illegal Aliens, because We Don't. R/ Skip

XYZ wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:05 PM:Perez did not say any words to incite a riot nor did he use profanity. (yes, I was there) TO Esondeeter: There was no permit pulled that day for the "meeting." They conducted their gathering in a public place. Perez has every right to the same real estate as the others. Care to cite a case in which public land was off limits to ONE person voicing an opinion?

To Nick from Lisa wrote on Nov 7, 2006 8:52 PM:This is more MY town then it is Herrera's or Schwilk's. And as far as your other comments...the statement that you were "born & raised" in Escondido and whether or not I was. Here's your answer: No. I didn't grow up nor was I born in Escondido. I hail from a military family and then served in the service myself. I moved to Escondido 9 years ago and have supported this city every day. The rest of your comment: "did you move there so you could live in Tijuana without having to actually move to Mexico". Wow, did that take you all day to come up with that original comment. Your ignorance speaks volumes. I just wish people like you would shut their big YAPS.

to Cherie at 10:02am wrote on Nov 7, 2006 9:59 PM:YOU ROCK! You said it all. You GO Girl

Escondido is crucial wrote on Nov 7, 2006 10:30 PM:Everyone in the county is watching Escondido and Hazelton closely. When they both win in court, all cities in America will take back our country. Danny Perez is a perfect example of why we need an oridance of this nature. Act like an American and no one would care what racial background you came from!

To XYZ wrote on Nov 7, 2006 10:47 PM:Change your code name we all know who you are, Claudia.

Freddy wrote on Nov 7, 2006 10:54 PM:Please consider that is is not an idle nor careless talk to equate the illegals' agenda with Naziism, hitlerism. Read the Mien Kampf. And read some good bios of hitler. Very little has changed deeply from the issues of WWII. We are now in WWIII--a continuation of the hostilities. And each one of us and collectively need to consider what is what, and where we are standing, and on what we are standing. And what of the Quality of life in the Great USA? And truely God Bless America. And God loves the persons, all, all persons. The behavior and spirit is what is at issue and always will be the issue. What responsibility are you and I to take and do?

Skip wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:10 PM:We are now dependent on the Minutemen more then ever to help secure our borders. I think Bush has singlehandedly destroyed the Republican Party, and pretty much destroyed America along with it. With all the polls saying how much the American people want secure borders and no amnesty, he still tried to ram it down our throats, and in doing so turned off so many conservatives and right-minded independents. We all know what the intentions of the Dems. are, to open the borders and legalize and register every illegal alien and turn them into instant Dems, and Bush has made this possible. We need the Democratic leadership to hear the will of the American people and secure our Borders

Carlos wrote on Nov 9, 2006 1:17 PM:Let me use the same logic that hardliners use re illegal immigration. Perez was assaulted. It is illegal to assault. End of story.

Roberto wrote on Nov 9, 2006 7:57 PM:Carlos wrote on November 09, 2006 1:17 PM:"Let me use the same logic that hardliners use re illegal immigration. Perez was assaulted. It is illegal to assault. End of story. " REPLY: I like to watch the xenos wiggle, squirm and talk it away, Pics don't lie.

Nick wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:51 PM:To Lisa:(1) Apparently Escondido is more your town than some other folks, so using your logic, it makes Escondido more mine than yours considering my family has been here for 5 generations, and you definately don't speak for me.(2) Thanks for serving, but that has nothing to do with this. Every male in my family has served in Marine Corps and a few have given the Ultimate Sacrifice...Semper Fi, big deal.(3) The fact that you would call me ignorant on my equating Escondido to Tijuana just proves that you might be the one who needs to open her eyes a little wider. If you can drive around town and tell it doesn't resemble T.J., you need a reality check. Escondido needs to start with the ILLEGALS, then move on to the gang bangers and drug dealers, and this place might be safe to walk around after dark, just like it was when I was a kid. You might not be able to remember that, but there are a whole lot of people here that do. (5) These blogs are here for people like me to run our big YAPS. You don't like it, tough. You can leave with the Illegals!

Jimbo to Roberto wrote on Nov 10, 2006 12:11 PM:I love to watch illegals and their supporters behave in a disruptive manner, just proves the point that they are not fit for American society.

Jimbo to Shame wrote on Nov 10, 2006 1:11 PM:First of all, I would like to say that I am very sorry to hear that anyone would treat you or anyone else the way you described. Anyone who behaves as such should be punished by the law. Including jail time. That said, you claim, or I interpreted you to say, that these kids are children of minutemen. The MM did not even exist 4 years ago. You didn't like it when the ill-behaved kids in your story made assumptions, judged, and worse yet assaulted you. By assuming that these kids are children of minutemen, or even if you are just making an assumption that MM children would behave as such, you are doing the very thing that you are angered about...pre-judging. MM philosophy, contrary to their antagonists, is not one of racism. If it was, why would Pro-Border Control Latino groups support them? Yes, you may find an instance here or there where a member of the MM has made a racist comment. I don't know for sure, but I'm sure it's possible. There is no way to ensure that an organization doesn't have some imperfection. From what I've gathered about the MM. They want to secure our country from illegal aliens. I support that philosophy. I've never heard a racial slur. Their website specifially says that no racists will be admitted to their organization. Now, global warming compared to illegal immigration? Both cannot be stopped? Global warming is mainly a function of physical forces in nature, regardless of what your liberal politicians want to tell you. Of course this can't be stopped. Illegal immigration is a function of human behavior. Get enough of our tax dollars spent where they should be, at the border, and watch it stop. Enforce existing laws and punish employers severely for supporting illegal labor and watch it stop. Cut off benefits to illegal aliens and their children and watch it stop. Repeal amendment 14 and watch it stop. And before you start with the "you can't do that" rhetoric, the gov repeals tax laws whenever they so choose..resulting in more of our hard earned money going to their causes (welfare for illegals being one of them), so they can repeal an out-dated amendment that under modern conditions is detrimental to our country. They just choose not to even dare bring it up because they're too afraid of the backlash, mainly from Latino-Americans who have the right to vote. This is called pandering to one group and it is wrong. And why? because they project that Latinos will one day be the majority in this country. And at the current rate of illegal border crossings due to the lack of the gov's own shortcomings, they're right. Nothing against Latinos. Just illegal immigrants. And it is no secret that many, not all, Latinos support illegal immigration. The majority of the American people want illegal immigration stopped. The gov is supposed to uphold the will of the majority. The gov't simply doesn't do its job. This is why there is a problem.

Vince to Jimbo wrote on Nov 10, 2006 3:23 PM:Your assertion that the "illegals and their supporters" are unfit for American society is classic intolerance and is as un-American as you can get.This is all starting to sound more and more like Nazi Germany. This whole ant-immigrant movement is made is fueled by intolerance. The only thing missing from some of these folks is their hood or swastica. Pretty scary times we live in. Fortunately, a diverse coalition of Americans are not buying into this hate.

To Vince wrote on Nov 10, 2006 7:06 PM:So does everyone sit back and not do anything? Leave the borders open? I want to make sure my family is safe from felons and drug dealers that have no name or data that can be tracked. I have a very good friend whose husband is from Mexico, served over 5 years in a Federal prison and was escorted across the border not to come again. guess what...he is back working construction!! How do we know who is here? We have enough Americans that are felons, we don't need anymore, especially ones we can't trace. Of course most of the illegals are nice people but there is a reason we secure our borders. Does that make me a Nazi and racist? I guess in your eyes I am.

Jimbo to Vince wrote on Nov 10, 2006 7:44 PM:Okay, you're right. What I said in my response to Roberto was kinda a low blow. Two things regarding that: 1) I was meeting his tone with equal sarcasm deliberately to draw attention to my second point. 2) by having a guy like Danny Perez or as I've seen in the past, from other disruptive illegal supporting folks at the Friends of the Border Patrol meeting, the goal in which your side of this debate is trying to achieve will never be reached. If you have guys running around being rude and disruptive it only gives the impression that your side of the debate is one of undesireable behavior in our society. Now, you want to talk about un-American? (one of you and your side's catch phrases) Not learning English so as to keep up in school is un-American (English is the language of America whether you like it or not, I'll never speak anything else). Being on welfare at the expense of tax payers is un-American. Supporting illegal entry into this country is UN-FREAKIN-AMERICAN. And whatever you think, most real AMERICANS (racists as you would like to call them) are with me on this one.

To Samuel wrote on Nov 11, 2006 8:02 AM:No Samuel there actually is another way for Mexican immigrants to get to the United States LEGALLY, run an ad in Mail order bride magazine. It worked for the leader of "you don't speak for me". What a bunch of hypocrites.

Vince to Jimbo wrote on Nov 11, 2006 8:31 PM:We can all find anecdotes to support our position. Also, I have many hundreds of immigrants and never has one indicated they did not want to learn English. It is a myth that immigrants refuse to learn English. Most ESL classes are full. Your arguments are based on myths. This is classic intolerance that is spread by hate groups to deligitimize and then eliminate a group of people. You and others are simply buying into their dangerous ploy.If you really want to stop illegal immigration demand stronger employer sanctions. Instead you turn to hate and blame. The Nazi's used this same tactic. This is dangerous and un-American.

Jimbo to Vince wrote on Nov 12, 2006 1:36 PM:I am glad to hear that the immigrants you speak of are trying to learn English. This is definitely something,admittedly, I was not aware of. My pet peeve is in the classroom. I know for fact that there are some children that are not speaking English and forcing the rest of the class to be held up. All I ask is that if one comes to America, please, please adopt the language and the work ethic of Americans. And I know, there are many, many lazy Americans. That is not who I am suggesting to emulate. A true well-intentioned American's typical work ethic is based on the ability to communicate, seek higher education, and achieving succes which is evident in their ability to support themselves, not depending on welfare or others to coddle them through life. Also, I am fully aware that many illegals aren't eliglbe to enroll in college and thus they cannot achieve this so easily. However, their children can. And I hope and pray that they are. Make no mistake, however. I am and never will be in favor of illegal immigration. There is no way a society can sustain the impact of millions of unaccounted for people and their influence on society. I know many are well intentioned, but there is the undeniable element that affects us negatively. I and many other Americans only ask that we weed out this portion of those wishing to come here, and the only way to do so would be to enforce the system and make sure no one slips through the cracks. I also, do not think anyone who comes here and seeks to get on welfare should be approved for such services. Welfare was designed for the disabled, veterans who can no longer work when they return from duty, people in society who are truly willing to work but need a little help. Not for just any Joe Blow who can have a child and expect the rest of society to pay for it. And the last thing I care about when someone is abusing the system is the color of their skin or where they came from. I could be blind and deaf, but if I was aware of freeloaders, I'd have a problem with that.

Jimbo wrote on Nov 13, 2006 12:06 AM:After reading my own blog (to Vince), I would like to point out that I am not in favor of Amnesty either. I hope nobody misinterpreted me. But if illegals are going to be here, and since the gov't isn't really doing anything about it, then I hope and pray that they at least make an effort to achieve the better life they came here for and not add negatively to our society.

John wrote on Nov 13, 2006 6:42 PM:Interesting article,just wondering how much this Latino gent contributed to the whole mess. Should be interesting to see how this pans out.