I hope the Democrats realize wrote on Nov 13, 2006 5:40 AM:America will NOT tolerate any plan that includes Amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens. Deportation is what most Americans want. The Republicans wanted ILLEGAL aliens for their supporters, big business. Democrats need to understand America is tired of the problems brought to our country by all the ILLEGAL aliens and the costs for their education, crimes and the terrible cost to our neighborhoods.

Perfect storm? wrote on Nov 13, 2006 3:05 PM:How come our Borders are still being over-run by Illegal Aliens by the thousands every day?

gimmeabreak wrote on Nov 14, 2006 11:22 AM:Well, whadya do with the ones that are already here, and who have had kids in this country? Send mom and dad home and keep the natural born citizens here? Fat freaking chance. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution (remember the post-Civil War Amendments?) gives 'em that right. The prohibition against "ex post facto laws" prevents retroactive criminalization of their status as U.S. citizens. So do you break up families? What you call "amnesty" is the response - however imperfect, to dealing with that reaility and reconciling it with our 230 year old national charter. Translation, we have to do something with the people already here, and it would be ILLEGAL (y'all's favorite word) to deport the kids of "illegals" home with their parents. The Fed Government needs a multi-pronged approach to stop new illegal immigrants, create economic pressure on the countries from which they emigrate, enforce the existing laws against all employers in this country (right down to Mr. and Mrs. Jones and their day-laborers/landscapers/housekeepers) and fine or imprison violators, including Boards and CEOs of corporations of companies which tolerate or condone hiring of illegals. Do not board the corporate jet, do not get your bonus, go directly to jail. Then work out some way to legitimize those already here, and tighten border enforcement. Yeah, it may not stop it completely, but an approach like this will slow it to a trickle. Anything short of a comprehensive approach will fail.

Lars wrote on Nov 14, 2006 9:47 PM:Perfect Storm? with the Democratic controled CA and their gerrymandered districts, no change happened in calif. By loading up Rep in some districts and Dems in others, it re-assures each will be re-elected. If the Dems had not gerrymanered the districts and made each closer to 50/50 they could have swept a whole bunch of seats. But that would put them at risk in each election. They were so worried they would be voted out, they choose not to risk it and not to let the voters have a choice.

Paul wrote on Nov 15, 2006 7:39 AM:Doesn't matter which party in the long end, the Democrats, will forget about their promises and resort to thievery just like the Republicans. We do not have statesmen any more. Anyone remember the -Keating 5-. The Columbia Savings and Loan scandel from a few years ago? Alan Cranston our fine elected official who resigned in disgrace!

It was: wrote on Nov 17, 2006 2:43 PM:All that bible nonsense that did it.