Angela wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:14 PM:The invasion continues and our government continues to do nothing...

Reardon wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:20 PM:As the piano player in the bawdy house was quoted as saying, "They are doing WHAT upstairs?" I am shocked! Do you hear me? Shocked!

VIVA wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:22 PM:LA RAZA...IT IS COMING AND WE ARE GETTING EVER SO CLOSER.

Dan (Temecula) wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:26 PM: Thank god we have cheap fruit, and veggies!! This on top of all of the social security fraud, gang violence, welfare fraud(like these anchor babies who there moms can now collect welfare), drugs, and just straight disrespect for are laws, does not make those few things illegals make easier on us worth it. We need to bill Mexico for this, and give a major refund to all tax paying citizens for the last 20 years. I also like how they said this was released quietly, they didn't want to wake the "as we call it the sleeping giant". But thanks to the days without a Mexican (or illegals)they brought it to them selves. We will not stand for amnesty. Yea i'm racist I already know, can't hurt my feelings, just my paycheck!!!!!

Suzette wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:46 PM:Oh Dan you're back. Where have you been? I have missed your diatribe. I appreciate that you are still willing to admit that you are a racist. That is the first step to healing. Let me say thank you for your honesty. Happy New Year. I hope 2007 brings prosperity to all and AMNESTY too.

Great Representation we have in Bilbray wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:52 PM:I can not believe this guy. He puts money over human life. That is astounding that an elected official would speak such evil and wicked things and not be ashamed of himself.

Smokey wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:40 PM: LA RAZA...IT IS COMING AND WE ARE GETTING EVER SO CLOSER." To having another gheto to dwell in. Open your eyes VIVA and ask not, what this country can do for you, but rather what can you do for this great Nation. You will really feel much beter about yourself and your heritage when you stop putting race before principals.

What else is new? wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:47 PM:Same story different day. When are people going to wake up to this problem? The answer is: When its too late. The huge costs associated with ILLEGAL ALIENS are largely kept quiet and swept under the rug. The sickening thing is the lib's who are all for it. They support the idea of having a lower class of citizenry which reminds me of the way blacks were treated after the civil war. Free but they could only have the worst jobs and worst conditions to live in. Packed into urban dense neighborhoods forming ghettoes of poverty and crime. Silly lib's, you know not what you do.

GFN wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:53 PM:The insanity continues and we allow it to happen.

A Legal Immigrant wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:55 PM:I am so sick of illegal aliens stealing from us. When it came time for my terminally ill father (a naturalized citizen for over 20 years) to receive medical benefits, it was denied because he was 64 1/2 years old (he needed to be 65). My father paid taxes in this country for over 20 years and he couldn't get medical care benefits. He past away two months before turning 65. It's not fair that an illegal can come in here and get free medical care immediately for their children. How about taken care of our own country's legal citizens first?

Lyn wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:56 AM:Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house). According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, except for well, you know. And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Say bye to your future Social Security funds.

Now how many HIGHJACKED citizenships does that amount to? wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:07 AM:In Chicago there are long standing (40 years or more) popular Ethnic restaurants and eateries that have through the years acted as a corridor for the illegal entry of their fellow country folk and illegal substances. The elders maintain a LOW profile while their progeny live high on the hog. Their success can be attributed to the endless flow of hand picked illegal workers who in turn afford them a life of relative leisure, while others who move on provide them handsome monetary kickbacks. In Orange County there are many non Hispanic owned workshops who openly braggadocio recruit illegal workers from TJ. No they do not live in hovels and make shift huts like the poorest of the poor farmworkers in SD County. The shop owner rents a very nice house and then deducts the rent from his twenty or thirty workers pay checks. The trafficking of illegal and undocumented individuals into this country has been IGNORED and ongoing for years. It has created incredible and undisclosed wealth for many. Sadly, the low and lower middle income worker bears the brunt of the FREEBIES for ILLEGALS tax burden. Pretty expensive chimmi changa wouldn't you say?

Mike wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:30 AM:Angela...We are building a "fence"!!! That should keep them out. Its not like they would ever find a way over around or even under "the fence". Besides it was a Bush idea to build this fence so you know its going to work. The illegal immigration problem will be over once they have "the fence" completed. You know good "fences" make good neighbors.

Steve wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:49 AM:It's too late, the feds see the enormity of the problem and they don't know what to do. It's like a doctor opening up a patient and the cancer has spread too far. America does not have the resources to stop it. It's a sad, sad situation.... The trillions spent in Iraq when we have problems like immigration, health care and poverty makes no sense...But, such is life.

Floyd wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:13 AM:"Humanitarian wise, you cannot turn your back on a newborn" -- how about explaining that to the Mexican government so they can be humanitarian too? Then their citizens won't have to trespass into the USA to have a healthy child at our expense. Has anybody from Medi-Cal sent a bill for services rendered to the Mexican government yet? Once the government realizes it is responsible for it's citizens, they will make the humanitarian choice and provide for their own.

It is time to invade Mexico wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:23 AM:We need this to stop. The National Guard just retreated from the border. They were attacked and ran like cowards. I don't blame them, if i got over run by a bunch of thugs at night i'd run too, but I don't have tanks and artillery. Pretty scary.

So what else is new? wrote on Jan 7, 2007 3:36 AM:I am anxiously awaiting the illegal apologists' positive spin on this story. Bring it on; we're waiting. I'm sure it will have something to do with cultural 'vibrancy.' Embrace the chaos; it's all good. Let our new and improved liberal cultural and political paradigm give us all the state-sponsered option of either a lobotomy or a lifetime prescription for med pot. It will still be wrong but we won't give a Hoover.

Skip wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:02 AM:TOY R US, thought they had a good publicity sweepstakes this year with a "First Baby Contest of 2007". The contest ended up being a nightmare for them when the first 6 babies were born to Illegal Aliens. Due to all of the negative publicity from China and the Chineses American People, the $25,000 savings Bond Award was given to a Chinese Baby of Illegal Alien parents.

Syl wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:14 AM:CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS SHOULD DEMAND AN ITEMIZED TAX BILL EVERY YEAR ON EXACTLY WHERE THEIR CALIFORNIA TAXES ARE GOING. Illegal Aliens cost a lot of money to subsidize.

TO ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN SYMPATHIZERS wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:17 AM:I have a great idea to get all of your illegal alien buddy's' citizenship. One that I think even the hardened no immigration people would be behind. We take a vote and everyone writes their names under whether they support illegals are to become citizens or not. Those people who vote to allow them to become citizens have to support any and all services that are provided to the illegals and their families. If junior needs to go to the dentist you pay. When they pump out kids at a rate that is much higher then real Americans you pay the hospital. If illegal mom hits a guy with her car and has no insurance you fix it. When their kids get our $10,000 a year public school educations you pay. We could set up a trust fund that you pay into and all costs are billed directly to you. If you can't or don't pay then you are deported along with the illegal you are responsible for. Granted you will go broke doing this, but hey if that's what you want then you should foot the bill, not me. It so simple and how could you argue - you get what you want, and we get what we want. I did not vote for my tax dollars to go to third world people, who illegally broke into this country.

Skip wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:26 AM:And people wonder why Americans are so fed up with Illegal Aliens from Mexico and South America. This story, if it is in the print edition of the newspaper will inflame a lot of Americans. Soon Escondido will not be the only city that is seriously over crowded or turning into a third world cesspool. The problem of this invasion is getting totally out of control and our Federal and State Governments are paralyzed. When the people try to do something on a city level the ACLU gets involved and the activists cry racism. Meanwhile our cities slowly degrade into the slums that the immigrants are trying to escape. Right now the illegals have it good: good jobs, free education, free medical, nice cities, etc., and the middle class American pays for it all for. How much was that head of lettuce you bought at the grocery store today?

Concerned Citizen wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:57 AM:The threats are real; the situation is critical. EVERY THIRTY SECONDS A NEW ILLEGAL ALIEN ARRIVES - 200 MILLION MORE BY 2050. No country can sustain this massive immigration without pervasive damage to our educational, health, and legal systems. Our environment, culture, infrastructure and quality of life are being eroded while American taxpayers are burdened with unfair expense. NO AMNESTY, NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP, AND NO SOCIAL SECURITY OR WELFARE BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL ALIENS

When Did That Happen? wrote on Jan 7, 2007 5:21 AM:http://www.nctimes.com/content/articles/2005/08/12/opinion/cartoon/thornhill-8-12.jpg

Well wrote on Jan 7, 2007 5:56 AM:Does it really surprise any of us? Tell us something new there NTC!

Syl wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:10 AM:As if this news was not bad enough ; last night another 6,000 new Illegal Aliens snuck accross our Southern border.

From Democrat-Robert wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:15 AM:Thank you Rep. Bilbray for your efforts to halt this invasion. Please know that we all understand this will be a difficult uphill fight for you and other responsible congressmen, but rest assured there are millions of us "legals" who will always remain firm in supporting your common sense demands to end this situation.

Had Enough! wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:19 AM:I agree that birthright citizenship to illegal immigrants should be abolished. Thank God for Brian Billbray. I can't get over the sense of entitlement these illegal immigrants have. It's time to take action.

Jill wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:38 AM:Someone should start a charity. A charity that all of the people who want an open border, including employers, can contribute to. That charity can pay for the true costs of exploitation of people like Sylvia. Her employer gets the benefit of people like Sylvia, who knows that part of the deal of being exploited in the USA is getting free or cheap social services. This is because the taxpayer is forced to subsidize these companies who hire people with unsustainable compensation. This is not just an immigrant issue, but it is a part of the issue. We should take on Walmarts, take on the construction companies, and all these fast food joints who hire illegals at cheap wages. Don't say legal residents won't do those jobs, because they do. They do at Walmart and in-and-out, only in-and-out pays an appropriate wage even though they are being undercut by competition that exploits immigrants.

Ray wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:46 AM:It took a report to tell everyone what we already knewthat illegal immigration is sucking us dry, just another government waste of taxpayer dollars, I made yet another racist and xenophobic comment...

P wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:51 AM: Wow! Poor Silvia, she has to pay $35? That is the cost of my co-pay AFTER my $1,500.00 deductable. Then I pay the co-pay for the script, AFTER the $150.00 deductable, then 30% of the cost of the visit, on top of my $475.00 per month in premiums! Geesh! Some nerve!

To the NCT wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:57 AM:You censored most of our posts on the feel-good stories. How about letting us vent on this story. Illegal Immigration will not just quietly go away. It is affecting all Americans, and do these semi-open forums reflect the hottest topic in town as. We do not need to take back our country, as we have not lost it yet! We do need to take back control of our country before it is too late. Why is it so difficult to respect our country’s laws and protect our sovereignty?

Native San Diegan wrote on Jan 7, 2007 7:10 AM:Every other democratic nation does not allow illegals to have children at their local hospitals without the home country of the parent pay for those births. Also, the children of the illegal entry parent do not recieve automatic citizenship. In those countries where the child was born they only get their illegal parent's home country citizenship. Here in the USA if a child is born of a illegal parent, i.e. Mexico these children get both duel citizenship Mexico and USA - property rights is the key. Gee Whiz I would have loved to receive duel citizenship just because my parents were from another country but because they were legal USA and I was born USA I only have property rights in the USA. If I were native American and 1/4 minimum American indian, I would have property rights on the reservation too. Now, am I lucky or what?

Randy wrote on Jan 7, 2007 7:52 AM:Gather every illegal alien, give 'em guns and ship 'em to Iraq. Now that's what I call a surge!

El Guero wrote on Jan 7, 2007 7:52 AM:I can just hear the sigh coming from the usual Latino suspects on reading the headline. It proves what they all deny: that illegal immigrants don't come here just to work and that they do not-- indeed, cannot--pay their own way.

Bob wrote on Jan 7, 2007 7:54 AM:1. Nothing prevents ICE from deporting pregnant illegal immigrants. We need stricter enforcement of our immigration laws. However, ICE should stay out of hospitals and doctor's offices. I don't approve of illegal immigrant's presence, but no one should be afraid to seek medical attention. 2. If they're here anyway, it makes economic sense to provide pre-natal care, etc. If the U.S. citizen children are born with birth defects, are premature, etc. the cost of their health care will be much more and taxpayers will pay for that anyway.

Mary wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:12 AM:Automatic USA Citzenship is given away to ANYONE who is born in a USA hospital. Bill Bray needs stress that giving away citizenship to illegal immigrants at California hospitals only excerbates the illegal immigrant problem further. USA citizenship is a prize that attracts multitudes of illegal pregnant women to cross the border. This is ridiculous! No other country in the world gives automatic citizenship to individuals because they were born on the territory. The 14th Amendment is seriously flawed. No one here is saying, lets deny medical care to a pregnant woman. What is being suggested is that we stop giving these women's children social security #'s as they leave the hospital. That baby has not earned the right to collect social security benefits or receive citizenship. I can think of a lot more things that $400 mil could be spent on in this county.

To NCT wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:13 AM:Where is my post? RWC

Mary again wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:20 AM:Also, if automatic US citizenship is stopped, that will help decrease the number of births to illegals that we all have to pay for.

Premium Increase wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:26 AM:My health insurance premiums went up by $100 a month (18%) this year. I pay sales taxes. I also pay state and federal income taxes, property taxes, hospital district taxes, homeland security taxes, telephone taxes. And then there are the fees. I pay over $600 a year in state and local license fees just of operate my small business. My son was a passenger on a trip north. The CHP ticketed him because his shoulder belt was behind his arm. The fine was $20, but the court construction and homeland security fees made the total fine $87! All to support VIVA's strategies!

Former Esco Resident wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:27 AM:Ugh, big shock. Not! The big question is, will our elected officials do anything to stop the bleeding and if they do not, will we vote them out? This is just shameless exploitation of our system. I'm sick of it. My tax money should only go to help legal Americans. I didn't sign up for third-world welfare aid.

Kelley wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:33 AM:Birth control is free at the clinic, too, but apparently not utilized much. I've seen so many bright young girls with incredible potential destroy their futures with an "unplanned" pregnancy - all to satisfy the cult of motherhood in Mexican/Catholic society while creating American anchor babies. Without a SSN, good luck collecting child support from the deadbeat dad. The $400 million figure doesn't begin to cover the costs of medical care for these mothers and especially their babies, many of whom are born prematurely or with special needs requiring intense and expensive intervention. If we want to do this for the children of Mexican residents, wonderful. We should do the same then by providing free health care to all our own citizens first, then anyone else from any nation who can swim, walk or fly here. To provide for the children of illegal Mexican immigrants (regardless of actual income) and not the children of every other nation of the world - well, that would be, you guessed it, racist.

allen wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:37 AM:I know that this is silly, but the reality is that this trend is going to continue - wall or no wall, expensive tomatoes or cheap tomatoes, mowed lawn or mow it myself lawn. The cultural practice of no birth control has to be changed. People within the community have to be involved in initiating a moral/cultural shift. Three babies by the time a girl is 18 and one more on the way is the norm. Let's give out free contraception.

RWC wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:47 AM:Government does not care for they have a different agenda than representing and protecting their citizens. We are all headed towards a one world government. Illegal immigration is only a small part of their agenda. The money you have is worthless paper. Time to protest. If you do nothing, you are only contributing to our country's covert invasion.

Randy wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:57 AM:Which do you prefer: paying for illegal immigrants' babies or paying for a new stadium for San Diego Chargers' billionaires Alex and Dean Spanos and their families?

Longtime Resident wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:57 AM:There are only three truths: 1) Death 2) Taxes 3) Illegal Immigrant Births

Time will tell wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:00 AM:I think the problem with this issue is that Americans are so busy with their everyday life that they don't want to be bothered with issues such as these. They think it doesn't effect them. They think the people they just voted into office and good ole President Bush will take care of them. Sure, our elected officials wouldn't hurt our country would they now?

49th District Voter wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:13 AM:I was indifferent to Bilbray because he was in the 50th, but now I am writing Issa to encourage him to support Bilbray's bill.

Marky Marx wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:17 AM:Peace-out everyone, Gov. Arny is pushing thru a new bill that will provide health care for all illegal alien childrens, FREE. Then they won't have to go to your stingy hospitals with all you whiny racists. The Bush administration is also sneaking thru something called the Social Security Totalization Act. All those illegals that have worked here using fake SS numbers will be able to collect SS benies. And remember that fence the House and Senate promised, ain't gonna happen. Viva Mexico, down with hate and racism. Hey Suzzette, you really slammed Dan, you go girl!

Al wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:26 AM:Just utterly DISGUSTING! A do-nothing government. Vote all of them out next election, any politician who doesn't support stopping this drain on taxpayers should be ousted!

for Skip ;-) wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:26 AM:It seemed like a perfect formula for good publicity: A national sweepstakes would award a $25,000 U.S. savings bond to the first American baby born in 2007, courtesy of the toy chain Toys "R" Us and its Babies "R" Us division. Instead, after disqualifying a Chinese-American baby girl born in New York Downtown Hospital, the toy company finds itself caught in the glare of the immigration debate. The baby girl, Yuki Lin, was a U.S. citizen from the second the ball dropped in Times Square, where the Toys "R" Us flagship store draws shoppers from around the world. But, like six out of 10 babies born in the city, she has immigrant parents. The chain determined she was ineligible because her mother is not a legal resident. The award went instead to the runner-up, Jayden Swain, in Gainesville, Ga.

fedup wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:29 AM:This must be one of the "contributions" that ILLEGALS are constantly given praise for. Run them all out & let the ones who came here legally have first shot at making a go of it.

Sara wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:44 AM:Our government continualy takes from the legals only to give to the illegals it will only stop when the high paid officials start doing their jobs properly. As a citizen I not only pay taxes and health care but on top of that I must pay $1700.00 a year for flood insurance that I have no choice about. My heart bleeds for Silvia that she had to pay $35.00, yeah right

Outrageous! wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:45 AM:The government of the United States has become the biggest charity in the world and its donars do not even get a tax deduction for their contributions! It is hard to believe that we spent 400 million dollars on delivering babies to illegals while our own working poor, elderly, disabled and mentally ill face bankruptcy, ruined credit and life long indebtedness when they use the hospital without insurance! Even those of us who have insurance cannot walk away from using services at the hospital! We pay the $1500 deductible, the $100 co-pay, co-pays for all of the specialists, the take home perscription 20% co-pay and assorted non-covered costs that we had no control over while ill. "It's hard to walk away from that baby" but it is even harder still to watch our own citizens who are told there is no health care for you, while we offer it freely to those who broke the law to enter the country. The taxes they pay can in no way cover the services they use. Most in our area walk or ride bikes. Most in our area buy clothing and household goods at garage sales paying no sales tax. Most in our area rent, no property taxes which pay for the education of their children. The taxpaying American or legal resident is tired of footing the bills for illegals while the CEOs and business owners pad their profits, reward their shareholders and evade their taxes!

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:51 AM:ILLEGAL ALIENS and MEXICANS know our hospitals don’t turn anyone away and they will continue to come here to take advantage of this. They also know the welfare system and that more babies means more welfare dollars. Mexicans think that the roads here are paved with “milk and honey” and that there’s an endless supply of freebees available to them, whereas in Mexico and other countries the freebees just aren’t there. The time is NOW for change. An easy solution to help curb the flow of MEXICANS and ILLEGAL ALIENS is to change the laws so that babies born to ILLEGAL ALIENS here are automatically given the citizenship of the birth mother. The time for action is NOW, and we need to send letters to our representatives in congress to get the laws changed.

I'm Mexican wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:53 AM:No one is to blame for this mess but the feds. My people (Yes, I'm hispanic) will keep coming because of better wages, free medical, free education and until these freebees stop, they will continue to come. Some do pay taxes, but many of them get payed under the table. If I go to mexico, get into an accident and hurt someone else and I don't have mexican insurance, even though my insurance covers me within 75 miles south of the border, I will most likely be arrested and not released until all fines (medical/bail) are paid,,,, Not Joking. But if an illegal crashed in the US. They get the free ride to the hospital for a check up or more depending on injuries and a ticket for driving with out license/insurance. What a mess. I love my people, but if you come, come with legal papers, get a license/insurance and don't accept a job with cash under the table.

Ron wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:55 AM:Not costing US money? The only people making out in this rip off is the criminals. Deport the criminal illegals for stealing US tax dollars, and while your at it, deport the criminal employers too! At $8 bucks an hour, who do you think is picking up the tab?

PISSED OFF wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:59 AM:AMERICAN CITIZEN FOR ALL MY LIFE - THE PAST 30 YEARS! I HAD TO PAY $500 FOR MY SON TO BE BORN HERE IN OSIDE AND THE ILLEGALS PAY NOTHING???? WOW!!!! THEN, WE TRY TO GO TO THEIR COUNTRY TO BUY SOME BOTTLE ROCKETS AND WE GET DETAINED AND OUR CAR SEARCHED AND HAVE TO BRIBE THE GUARDS TO LET US IN THEIR COUNTRY! FREAKING DEMOCRATS - THANKS A LOT!!!!

Birth control? LOL wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:06 AM:The vast majority of hispanics are Catholic and they believe that ANY birth control is a sin. Birth control, HA. Ain't gonna work.

to NCT wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:15 AM:You should call this the NCT opinion board since you screen and edit posts you don't like. Its not really a blog its a censored acceptable message board.

Get Real! wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:27 AM:So illegal immigrant Silvia thinks that she shouldn't have to pay for her kids' medical checks. Both pregnancies and deliveries paid for thanks to Medi-Cal, or should I say, thanks to taxpayers! Meanwhile, low-income Americans do NOT get the same benefits. I have friends who spent years paying off hospital costs for their kids' deliveries. They didn't have health insurance or free Medi-Cal. And as for Silvia's reference to taxes, payment of sales tax on purchases doesn't make a dent in hospital costs. I know many hard-working immigrants. My own husband is a legal immigrant. But we cannot continue to sustain these kind of handouts to millions of people flooding over our borders from whatever destination. Take care of our own citizens first!

El Guero wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:28 AM:Hey, anyone seen Roberto? Could he be hiding?

Lyn Says It All wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:33 AM:LYN AT 12:56AM SAID IT ALL IN A WAY WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND. WAKE UP EVERYBODY, THE INVASION IS ON.

ADOPT AN ILLEGAL wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:37 AM:FOR ALL THOSE WHO THINK IT IS ALL RIGHT TO USE MY TAX MONEY TO PAY FOR THE BIRTH FROM AN ILLEGAL, THEN YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THAT FAMILLY AND COVER ALL THEIR HEALTH CARE COSTS.

David wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:39 AM:It is so wrong to use the working-man's tax dollars to foot the hospital bills of illegal immigrants. Those who come here know that they will get free services and, on top of that, what money these people do earn is not just under-the-table tax-free, what they can send back to their families in Mexico they will. It's no wonder Escondido is resisting landlords allowing illegal immigrants housing in their community. I think we should impose a MANDATORY HEAFY TAX to anyone coming through the U.S./Mexican border regardless of their legal status. And charge it every time they cross. And those caught here illegally ought to be required to help build us a fence on the entire Mexican border. That wouldn't take long to build, cause we'd have plenty of workers for (free).

Eligibility worker wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:40 AM:I am Hispanic and I am not Catholic and I do believe in birth control. Perhaps someone should research with Planned Parenthood just how much social services pays for abortions for young caucasian girls. I go and sit in the Planned Parenthood clinic twice a week to monitor and document the ethnicity of those who are there to terminate preganancies the majority are young caucasian females. Do you know that they can get a one time medical card to pay for the $400.00 procedure. HHHHHUUUUUMMMMM lets see do the math 50 to 150 young girls getting this done with on the daily with medical money just who is breaking the bank.

PelosisPeons wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:50 AM:House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not even consider illegal aliens an issue. In her world, all is well and her constituency WANTS more cheap labor & docile consumers. She believes that the people complaining about their towns & cities turning third world, are just the minority and are racist. The government WILL NOT solve this problem. It is now up to the individual to handle it.

Kelley wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:05 AM:This is among the main reasons we're planning to get out of S.D. as soon as possible. Call it white flight if you will, but why should our kid have to attend school as one of only three or four English speakers in a class of 30 being held in a trailer? How much individual attention do you think he would get? And, oh yeah, we FEED our son with our own money, so he'd also be one of the few not getting free breakfast and lunch. We're headed to a non-border state where he can enjoy the quality of life San Diegans (U.S. citizens) had 30 years ago. We're not the only ones - far from it. Good luck once your tax base disappears.

Insanity wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:10 AM:Why oh why are people this poor reproducing? If all you can earn is $11/hour, why would you have children and doom them to a life of abject poverty? Is this what the Catholic church is advocating? Shameful!

GFN wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:18 AM:How come we don't hear anything from our Congressman Darrell Issa on this issue? Is he afraid to be quoted on such controversial issues?

GFN wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:20 AM:"Eligibility worker", 10:40 am post has a very good point...what say you, white folks?

no name wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:22 AM:21 years ago, I gave birth using medi cal. I am white, born in the USA. my husband was making 7 dollars and hour. We had to pay a 700.00 deductible in order to have our baby. what does that say to us Americans when we have to do everything in our power to come up with that money. But if I was hispanic and illegal I would have had to pay nothing. NOw we pay higher premiums in all our insurances, if you live in California it's even higher. I am tired of working to support other families. SOmething has got to be done. I guess that is why more and more people are leaving this state.....

Breaking the bank? wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:22 AM:An abortion at PP costs $400. How much does prenatal care and labor and delivery/hospital charges for an unremarkable pregnancy run? And how much more if the pregnancy is high-risk, or if there are complications? I'm sure it's a lot more than $400 (admittedly, birth control is less expensive than ALL of the above!). So who, exactly, is breaking the bank ?

no name wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:26 AM:don't attack the catholic church about reproducing. They do teach their way of birth control and it does work if people want it to work. the lady in this article was single with 2 kids....where is the father. Was she single when she got pregnant 2X's. that's not the churches problem, it is not society's problem. you take care of your own resposibilities that is what the church teaches.

morty wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:42 AM:When i was catholic i was told you need to be married.To have kids.out by garbage dumpster a young girl called a man over.her baby is about due.no father.GOV. IS THE DADDY.AND SHE IS FREE TO BE HERE.I DONT THINK THEY CARE ABOUT KIDS.FREE MEAL TICKET.

To Eligibility Worker wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:47 AM:I am against abortion as well as the funding of them although that is another issue entirely. I'm sure that immigrants would be unlikely to have them as they are mostly Catholic. However, health costs are not the only impact illegal immigrants incur. We all pay higher auto insurance. Our taxes are higher because of the massive influx of spanish-speaking kids in our schools, of which a high percentage are illegal. Many qualify for free breakfasts and lunches which also qualifies them for free busing if their district has busing. More programs are necessary for non-english speakers which results in less money for other students. And let's not even get into the gang element that affects most communities, overflowing into schools. Not all gang members are illegal but many are! We should go back to the guest worker program and NO amnesty for those that are already here. No reward for those who have broken our laws.

Pedro wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:48 AM:Who says there' no "free lunch" lolololol

Gary in Murrieta wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:53 AM:We live in a nice neighborhood (mixed races) in North Murrieta, but due to “districting” my children are forced to attend public school in Menifee, where 42% of the students are classified as ESL. Consequently we now have to pay a lot of money to enroll our children in Private schools in Temecula. Now is the time for American Citizens to demand school vouchers from the state government. Public schools are not good enough anymore. If you can afford it and can send your children to private schools I would whole heartily recommend it. In our case my wife had to get a job so we could afford it. Ironically she now works as a public school teacher in Temecula

NEWS FLASH wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:02 PM:There have been proposals in the Mexican government to hand out GPS devices to Mexican Citizens who want to illegally cross our borders. In order to cut down on Immigrant deaths on the borders the Mexican want to give out these devices so that the Illegals do not get lost, and they can call for help if they need it to be rescued. I am not making this up!

Good on Bilbray wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:02 PM:It's about time someone steps up and identifies the problem. Stop Citizenship for those born of Illegals and turn them down for Medical and Emergency services. It's past time to stop the abuse of the Extortionist Illegal's.

Syl wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:05 PM:Let me see if I have this right. United States National Guardsmen have to flee from Armed Foreign Aggressors, while on United States Soil. Where is the outrage? I'll bet most Americans do not even know about this incident on January 3, 2007, that occured somewhere along the 120 mile section of the border between Nogales and Lukeville, Arizona. Why is the National Media so quiet about this? If our own military is not safe on U.S. soil, where does that leave ordinary citizens who live close to the border?

Something's wrong here wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:05 PM:To no name, if the Catholic church is teaching responsibility, apparently very few people are listening.

Ingrid wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:08 PM:California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year, according to a new report. Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost, estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical care for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have committed crimes are the next two largest expenses measured in the study.

Temecula Teacher wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:13 PM:We often hear that America should open its doors to illegal aliens so that they might pursue the American dream and improve their lot in life, just as our forbears did. Trouble is, the only thing that really happens when we allow illegals in is that we import generations of poverty. Many legal immigrants to the US are highly educated. In contrast, most illegal aliens are very poorly educated. The average education levels for Mexican fathers, a large component of the illegal alien population, and their U.S.-born children are at the bottom of the educational spectrum. Uneducated immigrants, regardless of heritage or ethnicity, who have little interest in education, generally end up with poorly educated children. While the averages are already bad, the education gap between Mexican and non-Mexican natives is far larger than the simple averages would indicate.

No amnesty; tougher employer enforcement wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:15 PM:http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01/07/opinion/commentary/17_19_501_6_07.txt

cvangel wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:22 PM:Not routinely known by the casual observer, many of these illegal mothers admitted into the hospital claim they are unemployed and have no spousal support - hence they have no money to help pay for delivery or care. Those folks are simply gaming the system - they've learned well from those who have came before them. Since they provide no social security number, it's virtually impossible to dispute the claim. I see so many people come into the hospital who speak NO english (or pretend they don't) and the SS# on their face sheet is 000-00-0000. Another thing that needs to change in our system is that the hospitals can't turn someone away. These people can still sue believe it or not. They need to empower the medical facilities to turn people away when they use the ERs as clinics without fear of lawsuits. I've always felt if they come to us with something serious; we should be allowed to stabilize them and transport them right back home to Mexico or wherever they came from. And send the bill to their home country. Often they come knowing they're already sick (or pregnant), but can't get care in their own Country (or just want to have the baby here) so they come to our ER's knowing we can't turn them away. We shouldn't have to absorb the entire course of their care. Mexico (and I doubt most other nations as well) wouldn't do it for us! Of course we don't want anyone to die, least of all an infant. This is why I said we should stabilize them and transport them home. We could not turn away someone who has a serious condition. America's kinder than that; but we aren't responsible for everyone in the world either for heaven's sake!

Robert wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:30 PM:As evidenced by the shear number of stories just like this one from all over the country, America is undergoing very dramatic changes. It is just too bad that the changes are not by design, but by Illegal aliens violating our country's laws. Anyone who does not see this is up for a big surprise in the next few years. All over America there are countless media stories about the first babies born of the year, and they are born to Non-English speaking parents, who just arrived here. I think there may be a trend developing here."

Frida wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:32 PM:I say UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE FOR ALL! I know many of you are angry because I too can't afford health insurance and have to pay outrageous medical bills. Remember, all of us can go to a community clinic - us citizens and non-citizens alike. So don't complain about that part. What we shoudl complain about is how rich the insurance and pharmaceutical companies are by privatizing our health care. We need FREE or very low cost public healthcare folks. that's the only solution!

Librarian & Info Scientist wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:32 PM:Re: GPS January, 2 @ 07:04 GMT shots Illegal migrants, who want to cross the Northern Border of Mexico into the U.S., will be given handheld GPS devices according to Jaime Obregon, Coordinator for the State Commission for Migrants in the Mexican State of Puebla.. "Our intention is to save lives, "Jaime Obregon, coordinator for the state commission for migrants in Puebla, the Mexican state behind the project, told the London Telegraph. Authorities in Mexico are predicting that approximately 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched this year. ... Illegal immigrants planning to cross the desert and enter the US on foot are to be given hand-held satellite devices by the Mexican authorities to ensure they arrive safely. Those who get lost or fall sick during the dangerous four-day crossing will be able to activate the device, to alert frontier police on both sides of the border. The satellite tracking service will require would-be illegals to register their intentions before setting off � a paradoxical move, given that secrecy is necessary for success � but Mexican authorities are predicting that about 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched formally in the coming year. "Our intention is to save lives," said Jaime Obregon, the co-ordinator for the state commission for migrants in Puebla, the Mexican state which is behind the project. "There are lots of people looking to cross and we are working with the US authorities to make sure they do not die on the way."

To Eligibility Worker wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:34 PM:I don't know if this is really going on, and I really doubt it is, but as I see it, I would rather pay for that then to have to take care of millions and millions of illegals the rest of my life.

posty wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:34 PM:US should "annex" the six Mexican provinces bordering the US, to provide a buffer. We could call it "New Aztlan" and make it the 51st state. Kind of LaRaza in reverse.

Frida wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:35 PM:The fobies are out today! haha Sometimes the hate and bitterness in these blogs really worries me. To think that you people live around me....but then again, you would never have the guts to say this stuff when you're alone.

To Pedro: wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:36 PM:Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll --but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK). I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK). Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

Hey Frida wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:50 PM:What are fobies?

Kat wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:52 PM:. I do not see why certain Hispanics are gloating about La Raza, New Aztlan, and the like. Where is the victory if California turns into a third world country just like the very places the immigrants are fleeing from? Their sense of entitlement is overwhelming, and the demands for rights that these people do not even get in their own countries are amazing. I will never forget the Illegal Alien day of May 1, 2006, as that was the day I stopped being sympathetic.

Roxan wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:54 PM:Thank you, I'm Mexican and To All Illegal Alien Sympathizers. You and a few others have made some excellent points. I also think it is imperative that the 14th Amendment be revised, the employers punished (it's supposed to be illegal to hire illegals, isn't it)? And revise Homeland Security as well. For those who refuse their jobs, they should be promptly removed...Otherwise this department is nothing but a sad joke. Now: WIDE OPEN BORDERS & TERRORISM Do Not Make Sense, does it? The NORTH AMERICAN UNION (union of Canada, Mexico & the U.S.) along with the NAFTA Superhighway. Q: What will happen to our constitution?

FedUpAmerican wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:00 PM:The jurisdiction requirement was added to the original draft of the Fourteenth Amendment by the Senate after a lengthy and acrimonious debate. In fact, Senator Jacob Merritt Howard of Michigan proposed the addition of the phrase specifically because he wanted to make clear that the simple accident of birth in the United States was not sufficient to justify citizenship. Sen. Howard noted that the jurisdiction requirement is "simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already." Sen. Howard said that "this will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." It is clear the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment had no intention of freely giving away American citizenship to just anyone simply because they may have been born on American soil. The constitution of the United States does not grant citizenship at birth to just anyone who happens to be born within American jurisdiction. It is the allegiance (complete jurisdiction) of the child’s birth parents at the time of birth that determines the child’s citizenship--not geographical location. If the United States does not have complete jurisdiction, for example, to compel a child’s parents to Jury Duty–then the U.S. does not have the total, complete jurisdiction demanded by the Fourteenth Amendment to make their child a citizen of the United States by birth. The framers succeeded in their desire to remove all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. They also succeeded in making both their intent and construction clear for future generations of courts and government. Whether our government or courts will start to honor and uphold the supreme law of the land for which they are obligated to by oath, is another very disturbing matter. Several members of Congress have recognized that the 14th Amendment has been misapplied and was never intended to grant citizenship automatically on an accident of birth. But when the issue is addressed, advocates for illegal immigrants claim that they are racists and want to ‘punish the children’. This insanity will continue until the Congress has the intestinal fortitude to clarify the ignored phrase and deny citizenship to those that are not subject to the jurisdiction of the laws of the US. Look it up...read it for yourselves [1]. Congressional Globe, 39th Congress (1866) pg. 2890 [2]. Id. at 2893 [3]. Id. at 2895 [4]. Id. at 2893 [5]. Id. at 2897 [6]. Id. at 1291 [7]. James Madison on Rule of Naturalization, 1st Congress, Feb. 3, 1790.

Roxan wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:09 PM:During the illegal alien marches, I saw no signs of Homeland Security or ICE, but...I certainly saw plenty of signs being carried such as A.N.S.W.E.R.,Che Guevarra and hammer and fist signs at the illegal alien marches. Open borders are what communists want and they will hide behind the "Racism" comments. Nobody has accused Mexico of guarding its own southern border. For that act, they must surely be "Racists and Xenophobes." The NORTH AMERICAN is in the process of being formed. This is why our our borders are WIDE OPEN despite all the blather about Terrorism. Our country cares far more about guarding the borders of Korea than they are of our own nation and thus essentially leaving us as very vulnerable "sitting ducks." Also does anybody know about Aztlan and Anahuac? Aztlan would be the takeover of the entire SW from CA, AZ to TX and CO. Anahuac is the whole country. Or the groups of: La Raza, Mexica Movement, MAPA (Nativo Lopez), MALDEF, MEChA & La Voz De Aztlan or that the Ford Foundation and many businesses support some groups such as La Raza? I feel our politicians know full well about all this but still will do nothing about this. So, the NORTH AMERICAN UNION makes perfect sense to me. The Illegal aliens (in this case are the "Useful Idiots")and are being used to accomplish this goal.

Patriot34 wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:22 PM:I think the racist Mexican government should pay us for all of these costs. The 51st state (Baja California) should suffice. Let's take Baja as payment, give all Baja residents the option of becoming LEGAL citizens, or go back to mainland Mexico. The passage from Eastern Mexican states is much more difficult, and illegal immigration into this country would subside, while at the same time providing our constitutional freedoms to millions more of La Raza!!!

Roxan wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:24 PM:That's what did it for me Kat. And not only that, I didn't realize the Catholic Churches highly supported this lawlessness (despite all their "Moral" talk)and don't forget Elvira Arellano is holed up in a church (forgot which branch) in Chicago, as well as Unions (you would think Unions would consider them "Scab Labor") and radio jockeys such as "El Cucuy" of Raza Radio (his ad featured occasionally on the back of the VTA busses in my city) encouraged a lot of this as well. I've also seen "El Cucuy" advertise the "Advisador" for the last great march that was held. He and others noticed this "sea of Mexican flags looked bad" and told them to use U.S. flags instead. And by golly, with all those plaques with A.N.S.W.E.R., Che Guevarra, etc, there wasn't any ICE/Homeland Security to be seen. And all those Mexicans flags were unbelievable. They even removed some of our flags or flew them upside down. There was also the incident at the Maywood Post Office in S. CA. They removed our flag and foisted theirs.

M wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:25 PM:Here is what should - and easily can - happen when someone who is "undocumented" (I'll be P.C. here) "walks into an emergency room and is ready to deliver a baby and has no money": (1) the baby is delivered, and the woman and newborn are stablized -- normally this takes a few days; (2) the woman is arrested for violating immigration laws and given a choice of being deported to her home country with or without the newborn -- if she chooses deportation without the newborn, the child is remanded to child protective services; (3) The mother (and if she chooses, the newborn) are deported; and (4) a bill is "sent" for the services rendered to the woman's country of origin and deducted from any foreign aid provided to that country - the hospital and doctors are paid from the foreign aid account. If the country in quesion does not receive any foreign aid, then assets of the country in US banks are seized in an amount necessary to satisfy the debt. The problem is not one of having the means to solve this situation, we clearly do -- it is a problem of having the will -- which we clearly do not.

Dave wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:36 PM:Just back the Border Patrol Van up to the discharge door. Make sure it's equipped with a infant seat

Adam wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:42 PM:As more and more Illegal Aliens sneak across our borders and find homes in cities like Escondido, there is no doubt that when the next report is QUIETLY RELEASED, that the number of free medical service to Illegal Aliens will be over 65% of our state program that was origionally intended for U.S. Citizens.

To Birth Control is Free wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:49 PM:"Does anyone ever think of birth control?" >>> IT IS ALL ABOUT ANCHOR BABIES. You know ! Those cute little American Citizens, that are eligible for all of the free social services that America has to offer.

Reardon wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:03 PM:We are the eye of the storm, and what we are experiencing the remainder of America has yet to suffer. I urge each concerned person to tell their friends and family in other parts of the country that we are being overrun, and that they are next. If you have the ability to convert the article to Acrobat, or if a neighbor does, e-mail it across the country or e-mail a link to it. Knowledge is power, and your friends in other areas just do not think of the huge impact that we suffer. Just the massive financial impact will alert them -- even they know that we cannot support the entire world.

Alf wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:19 PM:Well, "Roxan", the Constitution as you learned it is becoming more like some scrap of waste-paper every day. Prop 90 wanted to curb the abuse of Eminent Domain and failed because it went too far. Prop 83 tried to correct for lax sentences for sex offenders, but it crossed the Constitutional line, at least so far. What is needed to help solve the problem of the U.S. being the birthing center for both american continents is a well thought out Constitutional Amendment to deny AUTOMATIC citizenship to everyone born here, complete with whatever ancillary clauses are necesasary.

Frustrated in Escondido wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:20 PM:Our constitution isn't what is was originally meant to be. Its amendments are constantly challenged and people on both sides are creatively twisting the meanings to fit their individual causes. That leaves us, the honest hard working taxpayer, with nowhere to turn for justice. Should we stand outside, thousands of us forming the word "deportation", have a news copter fly overhead so we get attention on the 5 oclock news? It's the crazy's that are getting their points across, not common logic.

EDNA wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:28 PM:I used to work at O.G.H.S. and the full tray meal is true. and they toss most of it. i had kids brag they were ilegal.when i worked at elem.mothers came and helped the kids eat the lunch.that was 22 yrs ago.

Tri City Blues wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:30 PM:Gonzalez during the Prop F and T Bond effort said no illegals were being served at Tri City... another lie? another song? another dance? and another scam?

Medi-Cal wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:38 PM:Since birth control is free to anyone who walks into a community clinic, Medi-cal shouldn't cover childbirth at all. No one should be having babies that they can't afford to take care of.

Mary wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:52 PM:Jesus is reading these comments! What's this I keep hearing about a Christian nation?

Longtime Resident wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:57 PM:After reading all this I realized something. The great "Protests" that have changed our country: The American Revolution, the 60s youth movement against Vietnam, and the like, simply don't work anymore. The politicians are not listening to protesters anymore, as if their vote doesn't count. What's worse, they are listening more to the racist rhetoric that has become the deciding factor in American government and politics. So put your placards down people -- protesting doesn't work in the USA anymore.

vistajoyce wrote on Jan 7, 2007 3:15 PM:ANOTHER WAKE UP CALL I am so sick of these law breaking, self-centered, disrespecting illegals and those who are sticking up for them. I'm tired of paying for their continued abuse of our system. I am sad about those who are waiting to get here legally and become contributing citizens as we continue to LET others abuse our laws. I want my country back.

Pedro wrote on Jan 7, 2007 3:37 PM:There's a guy in a commercial on TV dressed up like Uncle Sam selling a book for $37 on how to have the government pay your bills!! It really works!!! Even millionaires can do it!!! Virtue is it's own punishment as you can see..

Pedro wrote on Jan 7, 2007 3:44 PM:How do you guard 1800 miles of border 24/7 ??? And no one's gonna repeal the 4th amendment, and like Jesus Christ said; "The poor will always be with us."...Gee, I wonder what Hitler would do????

Jimbo wrote on Jan 7, 2007 3:51 PM:Glad to see the overwhelming majority is outraged by this utter abuse of our country.

open borders wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:00 PM: I suggest we open our borders to all. This will help our economy compete more effectively with developed areas like the EU and Japan. And emerging low wage countries like China. I welcome the Mexicans and other immigrants. They are the main drivers of our low unemployment rate in san diego.

To Frida wrote on Jan 7, 2007 4:01 PM:Free healthcare sounds like a great idea but it just don't work. Look at Canada and all the problems with their "free healthcare system for all." If you don't mind waiting for months for a doctor appointment and if you want substandard healthcare then it sounds like it would be good for you. I do hate paying the high healthcare premiums, but I would rather have decent healthcare for my family. There is no such thing as a free ride in life, if there was then what would people work for? We need to stop giving the handouts to everyone and their brother just because we can. People need to be held accountable by being put on a list if they are on medical and if they ever make an income they should have wages garnished to