Smokey wrote on Jan 24, 2007 4:37 AM:Guess I might as well start the illeagal bashing............ "seedy" because of tattoo parlors and liquor stores. But turning into a third world gang infested TJ style city is OK? We need some adult places around heer so guys dont have to drive to kearny mesa to do guy stuff.

Shopping Nightmare along East Valley as it is wrote on Jan 24, 2007 8:29 AM:While they are at it, the council should consider limited the liquor & check cashing stores, tattoo and piercing salons, thrift stores and cheezie dollar stores. I don't think that they have gotten the idea that all of those new developments trying to sell $600,000 homes along East Valley face an uphill battle. Who wants to pass by 5 or 10 liquor stores on the way to driving the children to school? Who wants to grocery shop in a plaza with a check cashing business? Those of us already living in the area with high disposable incomes aren't shopping down Valley unless it is totally necessary, especially after dark! We're surrounded by gangland, it is simply not safe and the types of buinesses attract danger. If they allow adult businesses along East Valley, consider it the kiss of death for property values. They obviously cannot attract quality retailers, they have already located in the beautiful plazas that San Marcos built. And, that is where everyone in our area shops.

Jack, M.D. wrote on Jan 24, 2007 8:38 AM:Let 'em on in! Our city needs more outlets for creative free speech! I for one would gladly patronize such establishments!

AResident wrote on Jan 24, 2007 10:22 AM:I mentioned shopping else where quite awhile ago. It's time everyone gets on board with this idea and passes it by word of mouth. The only way this City will wake up and step up to the plate to clean this Toilet up is if they see a large reduction in people shopping here. Meaning loss or Revenue. That's all the city cares about.........Don't let them snow you otherwise. Go to another Ralphs,Vons etc. Go to another clothing or toy store. Try to do all of your shopping outside of Escondido for six months. I've been doing it since the protests.

Skip wrote on Jan 24, 2007 4:50 PM:It they built a few upscale adult businesses in Escondido it would draw people from outside the city into the city. Believe it or not most of the customers for places like this are upper middle class males that are just looking for a diversion. The customer clientele base would actually improve the quality of people in the neighborhood. There are a few clubs in San Diego and it has been my experiences the clubs actually enhance the neighborhoods.

To Skip wrote on Jan 25, 2007 3:34 AM:To my mind, 'upscale adult business' is an oxymoron. There is NOTHING upscale or in any way positive about this sort of establishment. If you have sunk to this level, leave Escondido. There are siill a few of us left who will persevere in keeping this sort of degradation from implanting its tenticals(sic?) in our community. I get a kick out of laughing at the pathetic losers who scurry like rats out of F Street with their little brown bags or are they black? and slink off to do what they do. I have never seen a classy person enter or exit F Street. Skip, I hope we never cross paths. I wasted 30 years with someone like you. Yes I am sure you and those like you, enhance our neighborhoods. My skin crawls just to think of it.

Shut Up wrote on Nov 28, 2007 9:01 AM:All of u r being rediculous. So what if some people like to use toys or other objects to enhance their sexual experience. at least u have to be an adult to eneter the stores. just imagine, if they removed places like F street then they would start selling their products in oher stores where kids or young children walk around with their parents. Then what is gunna happen. kids will get interested in sex at earlier ages. and if u havent noticed there are already enough teenagers getting pregnant at only 15 years old. so yea just think about it a lil.