Same old story wrote on Feb 15, 2007 11:54 PM:Fools names and fools faces always appear in public places. Old saying that is so true today. There are too many fools that have absolutely NOTHING to say but will say ANYTHING for publicity....and NCT will gladly provide the soapbox!!

These groups are a pain in the arse wrote on Feb 16, 2007 5:29 AM:and should be forced to PAY for all their demands. A person with even a small amount of intelligence would understand if you run from cops.... you going to get shot. I am tired of paying for ILLEGALS, now being forced to pay for their breaking the laws and these ILLEGAL immigrant rights groups and their wasteful demands.

Jeff wrote on Feb 16, 2007 6:05 AM:The last sentence of this article sums it all up. Why would the activists criticize Dumanis for noting that only two or about 148 OIS were found justified? Wouldn't they be more upset if it were 50 out of 148? Is the DA supposed to occasionally make an example out of a cop even though they did nothing wrong? Bill Flores and his band of clowns are on a witch hunt. They won't be happy until they get a sacrificial lamb. Mr. Flores would better serve his community by reaching out to young Hispanic gang members and drug users who will likely do something stupid enough to force a cop to shoot them. Perhaps he already knows it is a hopeless cause, and that is why he is focusing his ire on his former department.

Scott wrote on Feb 16, 2007 7:26 AM:What you asked for isn't enough? Then why did you ask for it? I just hope the Police and Sheriff departments don't throw down a scape goat to appease these groups. These groups don't have the strength to damage anyone's political career, they are not the majority and bowing down to them would bring out the majority in opposition of their racist ideology. Now Flores wants DA investigators to have no investigative background. Do you want them to just make decisions based on what would be best for the Hispanic community or should they still try to find the truth and assist the judicial community in serving the county.

Let the cops do their Job wrote on Feb 16, 2007 7:34 AM:In this day in age. Cops don't have much choice but to use deadly force. Today's criminals are much better armed than in the past. I don't want our officers to second guess themselves. When in doubt, shoot to kill!

Brett wrote on Feb 16, 2007 7:45 AM:What really is "alarmingly high" is the number of gang-bangers per capita you have in north county...7 shootings in 2 years isn't at all high considering this and other relevant facts so conveniently omitted in your political ad..in fact in my opinion its low.

Crazy wrote on Feb 16, 2007 8:29 AM:2 of 148 were unjustified. Thats sounds like an unreasonable number to me... Were the 2 politcial scapegoats or were they really unjustified? As for the complainers what would they say if the cops didn't respond or failed to act out of fear of prosecutors, who have no experience in police work, second guessing actions they make at life threatening sceens? If Flores had any police experience, he promoting little time on the streets, he would explain how dangerous police work can be!

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Feb 16, 2007 10:42 AM:The utter violence that permeates the Latino community on a daily basis is appalling. This cycle of violence will continue unless the so-called “leaders” of the Latino community step up to the plate. Where is El Grupo, NCLR, MEChA, etal when it comes to good citizenship? Seems to me these groups are missing a key piece of the puzzle; fixing the problems in the Latino community. If these groups spent more time straightening out the problems and trying to integrate into our culture than what is spent on defending Latino rights and finger pointing, we wouldn’t have the exorbitant crime and 55% dropout rate amongst Latinos in our community. Every day we hear about violent crime being committed by Latinos in all the communities here in San Diego County, and these advocacy groups are doing absolutely nothing to address this. It’s high-time they start acting like responsible organizations or people won’t take them too seriously until they do.

Ask wrote on Feb 16, 2007 11:07 AM:Think about this in the simplest of ways. Why were these people shot??? You dont get shot for just walking down the street, going shopping etc... You get shot for doing very stupid things and making the officers feel like their life is in danger. So take away the officers actions and look solely at what the dead people did, you ill understand.

I want wrote on Feb 16, 2007 12:20 PM:these citizen groups investigated!!! Who supports them and their "racist" agenda. Are they going to pay for these investigations? As a taxpayer, I don't WANT my tax dollar spent on investigations by outsiders whose whole agenda is to prosecute and persecute our law enforcement for doing their jobs. How many cops have been killed by these Hispanics, NONE of which were justified? Like others have said, I think El Grupo and others should spend their OWN money to remove guns and straighten out the Latino community if they want to stop shootings there. And Foley? yeah let's throw in ONE black guy who was obviously a justified shooting, to try and make a case.

Peter wrote on Feb 16, 2007 12:31 PM:The people in these groups need to spend more time guiding the young people in their communities to become good American citizens, to include respect for laws and those charged with enforcing those laws. If they really thought the truth was being hidden, they would ask all available agencies to review the cases not just one that they expect to be politically supportive. Instead of trying to paint themselves as victims and blaming law enforcement, how about being proactive in eliminating the violence that is routinely perpetrated against many in their communities by their own people.

I AGREE wrote on Feb 16, 2007 1:08 PM:I guess the illegals aren't used to our culture -- where the police keep the peace and protect the people. Instead they think that we should be more like their country where violence and corruption are rampant and police protect the criminals. Get out of my country and take your guns and criminal activites with you! Protection of the criminals does not belong here.

Jason wrote on Feb 16, 2007 5:38 PM:Hum… FIRST- these groups need to understand that the Supreme Court ruled that “internal investigations” are not subject for public review and this is perhaps the document (s ) that this group got. It is a packet explaining what I just said and the legal docs to support this fact. If these groups are seeking a challenge to the Supreme Court ruling then the appropriate place is the courts not the CA AG’s office. SECOND- the shootings between Chargers linebacker Steve Foley, and the Mexican documented drug dealers, gang members, caught robbing with a deadly weapon with a long list of criminal records will be considered separate and district. They cannot be mashed together into one investigation. All of the shootings were different Foley being perhaps the only one with merits the others are no brainers. THIRD- Rev. Arthur Cribbs is doing a great disservice and perhaps prejudicing Foleys civil case whereby the promise future jury will automatically connect Foley in an unfavorable light based on the connection between the Vista drugs, gangs, theft, arm robberies etc…, what a shame.

Amanda wrote on Feb 16, 2007 5:46 PM:OK NCT did I miss something what does Chief Frank McCoy of the Oceanside Police Department have to do with the Vista sheriffs shootings? Is he a member of the BOARD that investigated the sheriff’s shootings? Please explain what Oceanside’s OPD have to do with the Sheriffs aren’t they two separate entities?

Wiley wrote on Feb 16, 2007 6:40 PM:If Mr. Flores is looking for a pattern, all he has to do is take a look at the Townsite crime statistics, or read the paper. If the Latino community disrespects the laws of this country continuously and fails to educate their children in proper, law abiding behavior, then they have no right or reason to complain when one of them gets shot while committing a crime. Mr. Flores should spend his energy teaching English and values to the Latino community, something that's sorely missing. And if they feel treated so poorly and misunderstood: they know the way home.

Do you get it? wrote on Feb 16, 2007 7:09 PM:You know caucasions are shot everyday but I do not see anyone forming groups to investigate their shootings. I am so tired of the hispanic groups and the black groups crying racism. This has to STOP! It is their actions that get them shot, plain and simple.