One Upsmanship wrote on Feb 17, 2007 12:51 AM:Sanchez said "they're putting their heads in the sand." I'm not sure if this is true, but I know where your head is Esther, and the sun don't shine there either.

What's wrong with this picture? wrote on Feb 17, 2007 12:55 AM:'"This is, and I hate to use the phrase when pigs fly, but this is pretty hard to see," said Councilman Jack Feller.' -Feller's comments in NC Times article "Oceanside Cold to Stadium Idea" February 22, 2006 What, Jack?! And now you would have Esther's position one year after your own statement to be considered "premature?"

Flip the flop out of Office wrote on Feb 17, 2007 1:14 AM:Sanchez brought the Charger Stadium to Oceanside, now she opposes it. Sanchez was opposed to the airport, then supported it (for votes in November), now she opposes the airport again. We are not sure what you base your opinions on this time Ms. Sanchez, (other than you are mad, what’s new there?) but you really should stick with a consistent position on these important issues. You are wasting a lot of people’s time and more importantly wasting a lot of the City’s money in the process.

Time to revive the recall wrote on Feb 17, 2007 1:31 AM:Esther needs to be re-called and it's time for the good people of Oceanside to show some compassion for her and get her out of office. It's far too much for her to handle and all she's doing now is making a fool of herself!!

LAWSON.... wrote on Feb 17, 2007 2:45 AM:Sanchez has had her 15 minutes of fame, her arrogant meddling will only bring more turmoil to the citizens of Oceanside...looks like WOOD isn't standing shoulder to shoulder with her barbarity!!.......Thankfully!!

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 5:13 AM:The council must ensure that eminent domain isn't used to take our homes for the benefit of the sports entertainment billionaire Spanos family!

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 5:23 AM:If the Chargers want to move to Oceanside, the sports entertainment billionaire Spanos family will buy the votes necessary to ensure the success of the deal, just like Manchester did!

They're still at it! wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:06 AM: The Chargers do not intend to move - they are just sounding off post season, as they do every year, to bring the City of San Diego in line. So relax - let the politicians get excited - it gives them means of getting their name in the papers and on TV. Let them move south of the border. Heck - they can't even get to the Superbowl, much less win one.

Spanos isn't stupid wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:32 AM:I'm guessing the Chargers are just toying with Oceanside to get leverage against whoever they are serious about. Nobody in their right mind would try to do business with such a disfunctional city council. And Esther is right about the stupid hotel project on the lagoon. You go, girl!

50 plus 1 wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:34 AM:Hey Fabini—Manchester had the council majority vote too. But, I suppose you are brighter than you look…you know Dougie skinned the city for 2.2 million dollars and the same type of give-away-the-city council reins again: wonder what kind of deal you guys have worked out? Humm…election coming up…campaign funds needed: no doubts in my mind why the council is willing to ruin four neighborhoods!

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:58 AM:Show me the money! Billionaire sports entertainment family Spanos contributes to the council members' campaigns. The council gives away our resources to enrich the billionaire sports entertainment family Spanos.

Randy, chill out wrote on Feb 17, 2007 7:56 AM:In case you'd forgotten, Manchester did *NOT* buy enough votes to assure the project's success. (One can deduce this from the fact that the project failed.) Bringing the Chargers to Oceanside will really put the city on the map, good for business, etc., etc. - ok, so we lose a golf course, we can always put a (small, tasteful) course over at El Corazon. Personally, I opposed Manchester vehemently and publicly, but I'm all for the Chargers if they'll come here.

Excuse me? wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:03 AM:'"This is, and I hate to use the phrase when pigs fly, but this is pretty hard to see," said Councilman Jack Feller.' -Feller's comments in NC Times story "Oceanside Cold to Charger Stadium Idea" from February 22, 2006. What Jack?! One year later you're claiming Esther's postion is "premature" and "negative?!"

To Jack Feller wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:17 AM:"it's a little too premature to be so negative." ... It's never too premature if it's your neighborhood (Fire Mountain & Loma Alta) that will be destroyed.

okay Randy, we get it! wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:36 AM:enough enough. Your ranting is contributing nothing to the debate. We know, anyone who disagrees with you is corrupt. eminent domain has never come up except in your posts. Thank you for insulting the citizens of Oceanside by assuming that the vote could be bought. It is sad that you are already making excuses for a vote that has not even occurred.

Public Debate on the Golf Course is good wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:40 AM:Lets explore all the options for that property. It is a wonderful asset that can be developed into something we can be proud of. No other coastal town in Southern California has such a large piece of undeveloped land that close to the beach. If a stadium works great, but what other options do we hve, lets here some discussion on that. How about developing commerically and using the money to develop El Corazon? The close proximity to I-5 menas that trafic could go directly to the freeway, leaving the surrounding neighborhoods relatively undisturbed.

Gallup wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:44 AM:A recent poll showed 89% of Oceanside residents are in support of the Chargers moving to Oceanside. You have to give the crybabies credit for being passionate about their anti-progressive views. Get real. Having an NFL team in our city would bring millions and millions in new revenues annually. It would imporve our community as a whole. When changes are made in a city our size it's inevitable there will be some unhapply folks. In fact, I know some of these unhappy folks aren't happy about anything. They yearn for the O'side of 1965. Ever heard of the idea CHANGE IS GOOD ??

LO wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:48 AM:That's right...it will ultimately be up to US....the VOTERS! And we need to be real sure to think this through! I myself, greatly oppose the idea of building the stadium here in Oceanside. The traffic and logistics will be an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE!!! Oside Blvd, Mission, 76 are already TOO OVERLOADED. We can not support the GRIDLOCK that is guaranteed to come if the stadium is built here! Trust me, it won't be a shot in the arm, it will be a death notice!!! VOTE NO ON THE STADIUM!!! And on ANYONE who supports it!

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:54 AM:Follow the money! During the November campaign, both Kern and Chavez said that they would vote against the Lagoon "Hotel". This week, both Kern and Chavez voted for it! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow the money!

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:56 AM:In case anyone has forgotten, Manchester bought enough votes to win the public election to change the parkland status. Manchester lost at the California Coastal Commission, where votes cannot be bought!

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:59 AM:I am starting to feel that no one wants to see the phrase, "sports entertainment billionaire Spanos family," posted. Well, that is who you are dealing with, so face the facts and get used to it. We just saw the Spanos family discard a winning coach like yesterday's dirty underwear. Are you so naive to believe that the Spanos family will not do the same thing to Oceanside?

More To Lose Than A Golf Course wrote on Feb 17, 2007 9:01 AM:It's not just the golf course that will be destroyed. The neighborhoods of Loma Alta and Fire Mountain will also go down in flames. And, as far as eminent domain goes, I'm not on Randy's bandwagon but eminent domain doesn't have to be mentioned in order to be a threat. When it comes to a project such as this, given the lot size they're suggesting working with, eminent domain is not just a threat ... it's a common sense inevitability.

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 9:02 AM:Eminent domain came up before my posts. Jack Feller stated that everything is on the table, including eminent domain. Can you give me one reason why eminent domain should still be on the table? Or do you believe that the purpose of eminent domain is to take our homes and give them to the billionaire sports entertainment Spanos family?

"Z" wrote on Feb 17, 2007 9:42 AM:Sanchez pulls her support for the stadium because the council didn't support her and vote against the hotel on the lagoon. And she assumes that her withdrawal of support kills all possibilty of building a stadium. I would expect comments such as that from a politcal neophyte not from a second term councilmember. Why would an educated woman have such a childish reaction and make it public? One has nothing to do with the other. Jack Feller is correct it is to soon to be so negative concerning the Chargers and the stadium.

To Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 11:06 AM:Randy wrote, and wrote, and wrote, and wrote some more. Randy likes to write..about anything!!

About time wrote on Feb 17, 2007 11:22 AM:It's about time that someone on the council recognized that projects, in order to be approved, should have community support. The stadium will never get it and a massive hotel at Buena Vista Lagoon won't either. We cound on our council to represent our views and not just vote for developers who give them funds. Neighborhoods and he environmental community will oppose anyone who doesn't care about them. Right on!

To Gallup and others wrote on Feb 17, 2007 11:23 AM:NOW is the time to look at the neighborhood impacts and see if discussions should even go forward. Traffic, lights, noise, crime...we don't want it! Understand?

Not coming to Oceanside wrote on Feb 17, 2007 11:28 AM:Dream on, they are only using us as leverage and publicity for a better deal in San Diego. Oceanside is too small and does not have the attractions of San Diego. The airport is in San Diego as well as all the other entertainment.

Publicity stunt-Leverage wrote on Feb 17, 2007 11:43 AM:Publicity and leverage for a better deal is all this is about. The Chargers are not coming to Oceanside. Where do the players live? Where do sports fans go for entrtainment after a game? Where is the airport used by sports teams from other states? San Diego has all the amenities. Think about this a big stadium in a small town away from all the attractions, and with a gang problem. The players are going to drive up to Oceanside for training and practice from plush homes South of here-do you think!

The Golf Course is a Joke wrote on Feb 17, 2007 12:26 PM:Under used and lowly rated, it is nothing but a waste of 70 acres. If I owned a house across the street from it I would also want the 170,000 other residents to support me in keeping it a sleepy little quiet golf course. Such is not to be. Just remember the lesson Fire Mountain got from the Zocallo Hills debacle. They fought a nice business complex and got the Walmart instead.

to Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 12:58 PM:The settled law, by the recent Supreme Court, allows taking of private land for projects just like a stadium. Right or wrong, that is the law. If the State wants to change it they can.

Randy wrote on Feb 17, 2007 1:45 PM:The Gallup poll should have asked how many Oceanside voters are in favor of using eminent domain to give our homes to the billionaire sports entertainment Spanos family!

ripped out and ripped off wrote on Feb 17, 2007 2:56 PM:Today's "Wall Street Journal" has an article about sport teams around the country ripping out luxury suites in stadiums, the same suites that justified spending billions of dollars on new stadiums. It seems that many teams aren't able to profit from the suites due to changes in corporate America. and now have to re-think the issue. Who knows what the next fad will be and how long it will last? And who pays for the changes to the stadium for the next fad? Questions City Council members and others need to ask themselves.

Is Oceanside that Bad wrote on Feb 17, 2007 5:13 PM:Some of the writers of blogs define Oceanside as a gang infested backwater town with no future. How sad.

O'side Res wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:40 PM:Maybe by the time the citizen's vote on a stadium, Sanchez will have been voted out and Bishop will have expired and then we can have a stadium.

The Sopranos..... wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:46 PM:I hear there's a RECALL on the horizon...Feller, Chavez and their new bumpkin Kern. Where do we sign? "I represent the WHOLE city..." Yea right Kernie, you represent developers. You're history. Where do we sign

Better Use wrote on Feb 17, 2007 6:58 PM:I'm all for a positive development of the Golf Course, but a stadium is not positive. It will kill property values in Loma Alta and Fire Mountain as well as destroy any sense of community and/or quality of life for miles around. All this talk of Oceanside being used for leverage ... boy I sure hope you're right. I love living in Fire Mountain and will be real upset if I have to sell my house because a stadium is moving in across the street.

I will contribute money..... wrote on Feb 17, 2007 8:02 PM:Will someone please step forward to take out papers and challenge Esther Sanchez' re-election? I will send you a campaign contribution to help you get your campaign started.

Seat Licenses wrote on Feb 17, 2007 10:20 PM:Houstons new stadium was built with "seat licenses", good seat licenses cost $3000. They are not a ticket, but a mere right to buy a ticket. Houston raised 50 million selling seat licenses. Reliant paid 300 million for naming rights for 32 years. I guess that is paid over time.

The Truth wrote on Feb 18, 2007 3:43 PM:Funny how those who complain the most about traffic and other problems that will arrise know very little about the issue. Stadiums increase revenue and property value, take a look at the area around the Q. Besides the Chargers would develop the area around the Statdium as well sinking millions of their own money to develop it. Not like it really matter, Ocean Side doesnt deserve a stadium. Like many of its residents its going no where fast.

Down with Sanchez wrote on Feb 20, 2007 7:17 AM:I will also contribute money to oppose Sanchez. Her sudden flip-flop is a clear indication of her inability to think issues through. Instead she acts on impulse and emotion. Worthless.