Here is a clue for you Oceanside, wrote on Mar 12, 2007 11:14 PM:With about 16,000 parking spots spread across 120 acres, Qualcomm Stadium has about one of the largest parking lots in North America. That is about 55 of the 60 acres for a parking lot. You can bet they will all come on the Coaster, at least the Coaster will have ridership on game day. The only good reason I can think of to support this proposal is that Sanchez opposes it!

Use the Proposed Stadium Parking During the Week wrote on Mar 12, 2007 11:54 PM:Qualcom operates as a giant park and ride during the week, would be great for commuters to LA and San Diego if a rail went to the stadium

Floyd wrote on Mar 13, 2007 2:04 AM:If the Chargers think Oceanside has enough public parking, they need to visit the city on the evening of July 4th and see just how bad the situation will be.

Go away wrote on Mar 13, 2007 6:06 AM:I don't BUY it--the Chargers pay for an additional Sprinter Line? When hell freezes over. The Chargers need to take their big town mentality and take it else where. While they are at it, PLEASE take Feller, Kern, WOod and Chavez with them. Recall the Mayor.

Randy wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:04 AM:Isn't this the team, with a 14-2 regular season record, that still lost money for the City of San Diego this year?

To Fabiani wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:04 AM:Don't go away mad ... Just go away. Your crazy notion of putting that stupid stadium on that little golf course will do nothing but ruin my beautiful Fire Mountain neighborhood, kill my property values & those of my friends/neighbors and make driving down Oceanside Blvd even more unbearable than it already is. NO THANKS!

To Floyd wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:47 AM:Boy did you hit the nail on the head. I completely missed out on the festivities last July 4th because I couldn't find parking and these yahoo's think they can accommodate a stadium. Don't think so!

apples and oranges floyd wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:13 AM:on july 4th, ppl driving around o'side are doing just that .... driving around o'side. the point of off-site coaster and other parking is to reduce the number of vehicles that would need to drive into o'side on game day. this happens quite a bit with the new padre stadium. also, the giants ball park in downtown s.f. relies heavily on mass transit. it was built with less parking than the s.f. code would have otherwise req'd. it works just fine.

Fabiani-take your Circus elsewhere wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:30 AM:Fabiani and the Chargers -GET LOST! WE don't have the parking and it does not fit into to our town. We are a town of beaches , surfing and boaing. And it is developing into a very up scale place to live. Why make it into a circus with a stadium! Go up to Anaheim! I am tired of Fabiani taking advantage of our city council people. The Charger people are big shot wheelers and dealers and our Council is being duped. In a few years they will move on-looking for another town-who will be foolish enough to have them. Beware it will cost Oceanside dearly!

Go Chargers wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:56 AM:The bottleneck is going to be the single-track line that extends from the Oceanside Transit station to where the proposed stadium is planned. Why? In order to accommodate an additional track (or two) the I-5 bridge span crossing Oceanside Blvd would need to be expanded. I don't think Fabiani and Co. would be willing to foot that bill. They almost would be better off building more parking structures in downtown O'side similar to what San Diego is doing and then have a monorail system similar to Las Vegas to transport people from downtown O'side to the stadium. In a magical world, the monorail could be elevated over the freeway.

Pony up Oceanside wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:43 AM:The San Diego bill for Qualcomm is over $400,000 this year, and that's after a record setting season with full attendance. Maybe Oceanside won't have to pay to build a stadium, but boy are these rubes going to be on the hook for expenses after that. Sanchez was right to change her mind, but the others seem bent on putting Oceanside permanently in the red.

re:Floyd wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:44 AM:Let the voters decide. Basically the nimbys in Fire Mountain are whining about a project that will benefit the entire city. As for the Fourth of July, there is no game on the Fourth of July, EVER. That gridlock ont he 4th is a classic example of American laziness, folks can't take mass transist. Gotta drive the SUV everywhere. Also explains the epidemic of obesity.

citizen wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:54 AM:Oceanside is not a small coastal town. It's a big city that needs businesses. That golf course is crap. Why not build it up and put Oceanside on the map. If the Chargers want to come here great. I applaud the Council for even trying to get them here.

To re:Floyd wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:30 AM:The nimby's whine because they don't want this to ruin their neighborhood for good reason. Everyone else will vote for it, not because it's a good idea or good use of the golf course, but because they don't live by it and won't be affected by it. Either way someone is going to get the shaft. The only question is whether it will be those in the immediate vicinity or the city who will be nailed to the wall for all eternity with the nightmares guaranteed to follow such a project.

bye chargers & city council wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:36 AM:'They' don't just want the goat hill property, 'they' want to take the CHARGERS property into your neighborhood. Do you want 'CHARGER' traffic at Mira Costa/ Palomar? CSSM? Would you fight that traffic to go to Home Depot, OR Carlsbad Mall, NOT ME. Of course 'they' don't mind putting those business out of business because IT ALL ABOUT THE CHARGERS, (that means Spanos dollars) Of course if you read the article neither would the charger people, notice they stay in STOCKTON. There is NO upside to having the chargers in O'side if you live in the area. NONE. Lets say you make 100K a yr. you can walk by one of the Spanos homes on the 18th fairway of Pebble Beach when you pay $400+ for a round of golf, he can fly you there in his private jet,yet he wants you to buy him a stadium, with retail, so he can bring you 8 football games, then ruin your lifestyle with mototcycle races, soccer riots, & let not forget rock concerts, not to mention the prostitution opportunies (see they say it will bring in jobs.) Be prepared to double your police force. To even think of this deal, the city council should be drug tested. Lets see, playoff team and it still cost SD how much? Notice the Chargers said if the City didn't maintain a 'state of the art' stadium, they would SUE the city. Can O'side even afford the law suits that would surely follow? They started out as the LA Chargers, that has a good ring to me, Think I'll go to Sears at the Mall and buy a wide screen TV & be done with it.

to citizen wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:37 AM:My bet is you don't live in North County

Hey re:Floyd wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:38 AM:Since when is trying to protect your biggest investment whining? You wouldn't want a stadium to kill the value of your 6 or 7 figure home either.

GOGOGOGO wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:42 AM:Hello Oceanside Chargers and Good Bye Oceanslime.

George wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:43 AM:I can see Floyd's point. If you want to know what the traffic will be like when the Chargers are playing, just see what it's like on the evening of July 4th. And you're right -- folks can't take mass transit because it is inconvenient, slow, and doesn't go where you want to go. Qualcomm stadium can hold 71,500 fans. If that seating capacity was duplicated in Oceanside, it would require 159 Sprinter trains (that's 79.5 hours at 2 trains per hour, more than 3 days) to handle the load.

Another sprinter line? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:44 AM:What baloney! We can't even get a bike trail to use west of El Camino Real..this pipe dream is taking way too much city staff time. Why aren't they working on things that the neighborhoods want rather than this ridiculous idea?

We don't want you wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:46 AM:Spanos..take your grandiose ideas and go away. You know you want to be in Mission Valley where the light rail runs right into the stadium and has 3 major freeways to accomodate the vast amounts of traffic the stadium generates. The neighbors here don't want this and will fight it all the way!

Loma Altan wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:47 AM:If you guys think this is such a great idea then why not put it in your front yard? I would lose all sense of peace and quiet and my enjoyment of my home. Plus you will never be able to demonstrate that the Chargers will give the city positive flow of funds. Don't you people read? San Diego has been in the red for years!

ROBERT wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:26 AM:MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN FALLBROOK SINCE 1962,AND THINK THAT THE STADIUM IN OCEANSIDE IS A GOOD IDEA THE BUS AND TRAIN RIDES WILL TAKE US RIGHT THERE NO MORE HASSLE.THE STADIUM WELL ALSO IMPROVE ON OCEANSIDES GHETTO IMAGE.

to Loma Altan wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:32 AM:Since when do you have the right to control the property in front of your house. Answer, you do not. That property is city property and will be used as the majority of the city sees fit, after an election.

Protecting Investment?? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:34 AM:So all city decisions have to enhance the value of your home. I do not think so. Get real

To Robert wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:43 AM:How about you stick to encouraging changes in your own community ... would you want the Chargers in Fallbrook?

To Protecting Investment wrote on Mar 13, 2007 12:01 PM:No ... all city decisions don't have to enhance the value of my home ... DUH. But there's also nothing that says I have to allow them to destroy it in silence.

Don't Want To Move wrote on Mar 13, 2007 12:03 PM:If the Chargers move here I have to move out. Since someone will be moving, and they're still packing, there's plenty of time for them to find somewhere else to go. They'll have a better chance than I of finding a comparable area in which to live.

How does it benefit you- wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:28 PM:The Charger fans want it because they can see a game and nothing else matters-NOTHING! So what if we are in grid lock with some type of sports event in the stadium concurrenly with Harbor Days, or boat races, or concerts at the beach, or x-games, or Iron Man Tri-athalon, or a World Surfing Event, or Fourh of July, or Hispanic Holiday Celebrations, and a dozen other activities. We can park at the local colleges when the students are not there-wow! Take all the parking spaces at the beach-wow! We can all take mass transit-wow! We can build more railroads-wow! More freeways-wow! We can make it fit on Goat Hill-wow. We can do anything for a Charger fan-they want to see a game-wow!! Whats in it for the CITY COUNCIL?

Come forth Accountants- wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:41 PM:For all those who think the Chargers are going to benefit Oceanside-Put up or shut up! Show me the cost to Oceanside and the nuisance cost to the citizens. Show me the COST of Doing Business-fire, police, medical, crime, sewage, garage and the rest! "PUT UP OR SHUT UP"- WHAT IS THE COST IN DOLLAR FIGURES? HOW MUCH PROFIT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOR OCEANSIDE?

George wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:48 PM:Whoops, I forgot -- the Sprinter will not be operating from 11 PM to 5 AM. Make that SIX days to handle the load, not three days, assuming the game lets out at 10 PM.

It could work on July 4th wrote on Mar 13, 2007 2:12 PM:if the city utilized a shuttle service and used the parking at the schools like Mira Costa and the high school. They just have not used the available parking for fourth of July. This is something that should be followed up on to help with July 4th. I think we have to be open minded about the Chargers until ALL of the information has been compiled and considered. It is a long way from complete right now and too early to reject it out of hand.

To It Could Work wrote on Mar 13, 2007 2:46 PM:It's only too early if it's not in your back yard!

lauren wrote on Mar 13, 2007 2:57 PM:first, oceanside needs to be approved by the chargers. of course the city needs to come up w/ cost/benefit & environmental docs before project approval. there will be plenty of time to communicate before project approval by the city. i belive football games take place a limited time during a season... not each & every day of the year!!!!! if a stadium can operate in the black & bring tourist dollars to funky oceanside.... why not????? this is a good thing..

To Lauren wrote on Mar 13, 2007 3:16 PM:Yeah ... those monster truck rallies, crowded conventions and rock concerts will be great when games aren't being played!

Ben wrote on Mar 13, 2007 3:40 PM:they need a new stadium, i'd rather stab my eyes out than see the chargers in a different city....oceanside step it up and make it happen....that and i dont see why the city of san diego even wants to keep the Q....other than motocross events what else would be happening? tear it down and make a new stadium for our beloved chargers...only like 8 home games not including playoffs, if people really wanna bitch that much about traffic, (like there isn't already anyways), i say get oceanside some class with the nfls finest san diego chargers.

1 big mistake if we move wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:05 PM:Making a Move is not going to be profitable for the chargers, I mean changing Cities thats wrong. Keep the SanDiego Chargers a Home in SD. Don't play Marty ball with the location.Put more presure on SD and lets Keep the team in Town.

George wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:35 PM:I think that moving the Chargers to Oceanside is a great idea. I live in Anaheim and really disliked having to drive all the way to Mission Valley. This project should benefit the overall community, not just the individuals. So I say let's move them, the sooner the better!

To George at 4:35 PM wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:53 PM:How about you stick to encouraging changes in your own community ... would you want the Chargers in Anaheim?

LO wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:09 PM:BEAT IT!!! We don't want or need all the BS that goes with having the stadium in our city!!! Oh yeah a stadium will really put us on the map. We are already on the map!! Beautiful beaches, Mission San Luis Rey, Camp Pendelton. [sic} "THE STADIUM WELL ALSO IMPROVE ON OCEANSIDES GHETTO IMAGE." Yeah Robert...you have the nerve to bash my city and you can't even spell!! Cowboy up!! Build the stadium out in Fallbrook if you think it is such a great idea. There is lots of open space out your way. Bottom line, people will TAILGATE...they won't use public transportation! It's not only the Chargers that will use the stadium either, there will be Monster Truck rallies, Motorcross, Tractor pulls, Used Car Tent sales, and all the other garbage that goes on at a stadium!! Forget it!! Call me a NIMBY if you will, but I've got to live here...you all get to get in your cars and drive back to your quiet and peaceful neighborhoods while we get to pick up cans, beer bottles, condoms and all the other trash that will be left behind. Once again...BEAT IT!!!

To M. George and the others- wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:27 PM:Anyone notice that people from Anaheim or Fallbrook or some other place think it would be great in oceanside! We get to pay the bill! All the pie in the sky schemes about public transportation , utilization of school or beach property for parking so they can see a game! How they could just catch a train or bus and go to the stadium. READ PONY UP OCEANSDE, Written at 9:43 am today. What do you not understand about the San Diego bill due for 400,000 dollars for the stadium! The stadium in San Diego is a losing venture. If it made money San Diego would not let the Chargers go, and would gladly build FABIANI his new stadium. Think about!

Denver 4 Life wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:38 PM:I don’t understand way the Chargers would come to Oceanside. There is never enough parking, the road in the area will not be able to handle the traffic and would the people living next to the stadium site be happy with it? What about the businesses in the area. Sure, it will bring in more money, but wouldn’t traffic be at its worst on Sundays when people are going to stores to go shopping. If I am going to pay for a ticket I should be able to park at the stadium and not at MiraCosta College or Palomar College and take a shuttle. That is why I like a big parking lot. They should keep the stadium where it is at. They have everything they need. Oceanside should provide parking and have a train arrive at the stadium like the Q. If know the owners of the Chargers are cheep, but if they spent some money, they can move the time to an alterative site temporally, tear down the Q and rebuild it on the same site. Sure it is going to cost a little more, but you will still have the parking and that is what other teams have done.

donald v wrote on Mar 13, 2007 6:07 PM:HEY MR WOOD ,HOW WOULD THIS LOOK IN YOUR BACK YARD??????????NOT TO PRETTY WELL THAT MIGHT BE THE REAL WAY TO LOOK AT THE REAL PUCTURE

Cost cost cost wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:15 PM:Just add up the cost, water, electricity, police, fire, eye sore, pride? (do you think they will be the O'side chargers?) Foxboro Pats, NO, New Jersey Giants, NO. Will the ticket holder get a designated parking spot with their ticket or will they drive from school to school looking for a spot? They can park in your front yard, you won't be able to cal the police because they are all working at the game and they can't respond to your parking problem. Oceanside citizens, the rewards just are worth the cost. city council listen to the O'side citizens, its yopur fudiciary responsibility. Take a straw poll, if its 75% against, drop the idea. This affect all of the tri-city area, If you live in that area, call your elected official!

5-10 yrs down the road wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:18 PM:New stadium in O'side. Another good reason to move out of the area. Hey, Spanos, buy my property, bet you can park 80-90 cars on it.

daryel wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:21 PM:Oceanide city staffers find 17000 parking spaces. That's great for the Spanoe's. But, what of the citizen who uses them now.

there goes the neighborhood wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:25 PM:Do you think the city will start 'taking' your property under enimate domain for the 'good of the community" (as the law now allows)? If not, then it must not be good- stop the process now and stop wasting time that can surely be better spent.

daryel wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:33 PM:Why not move your team to Stockton????????

I don't get it wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:22 PM:So fans from out of town can use up all the residents' available spaces at the Sprinter, Coaster, Mira Costa, etc.? What does that leave for the people who live here and pay taxes? This whole topic is B.S. And for those of you out of the neighborhood, get real. If you want 'em, take 'em!

reality wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:55 PM:the only ones who golf in OS are the gangbangers clubbing each other in the noggins....fire up the dozers and play ball!

17,000 public parking places- wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:07 PM:Fabiani likes it-17,000 public parking spaces-in our area, and they will all be empty and available for sports fans from other cities on game day, or on other days for tractor pulls, or motor cross, or ? Is this a joke?

To reality- wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:11 PM:Reality-when was the last time you played golf in Oceanside? You don't even live in this town! You are the one who needs a reality check!

Rocky JS wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:09 PM:Oh for crying out loud. Stadiums never class up a city, the area around one is always a dump. But this is Oceanside, and like Twentynine Palms or any other town off a Marine base, it will never be an upscale place. If the citizens and city council fool themselves into thinking that the stadium will make it a nicer place to work or live, if they don't bother to find out how stadia have impacted other towns, then they deserve what they get.

Mark wrote on Mar 14, 2007 9:36 AM:Solana Beach has McMansions, Oceanside will have McStadium, that is a too big a house on a too small a lot. This is just wrong thinking by Oceanside city government. I will work for a recall of these officials on the ballot right next to the free land to billionaire’s ballot measure.

tranerbraix wrote on Mar 14, 2007 1:27 PM:oceanside is not the place....keep the chargers in san diego where they are loved!!!! somewhere off the trolley will be the best bet.why dont we tear down qualcomm and re-build jack murphy stadium for the true fans!! san diego super chargers#1!!!!!!

Jason W wrote on Mar 16, 2007 10:38 AM:Why don't they just try to lease the land across from the coaster parking lot. That suspicious farm land that has been there forever. Sure it's military land but I bet they coud get around that. Unless they are hiding something underneath. I think that would be a perfect spot. It's right near the tracks and it would have a beach view and you wouldn't have to worry about ticking off local residents. We could leave one end open and have the kickers kick into the ocean. If we could get one with a strong enough leg. It would be like catching homers in S.F.

Chargers Rule! wrote on Mar 16, 2007 3:08 PM:Oceanside welcomes the Chargers! We'd love to have the stadium here. Ignore the vocal minorities, who ought to quit whining like babies.

Mr.Wiggles the Worm wrote on Mar 17, 2007 7:50 PM:Everybody sucks, except for me. Oh bother, who am I kidding a stadium in Oceanside would be quite nice for me, but only when I was to go to a game or a P-funk Chili Peppers concert (which would be 3 times at most in a year) An Oceanside Amphitheater would clutter the city. But hey if I wanted to slum it up with street women and meth slingers it would come in handy, not to mention all the mid-west folk who like to wander about unconciously making fun of the locals because of perfect weather and the abundance of beautiful women parading in flattering clothes presumably just to impress me. My grand thesis is this though...Let us get a Classical Roman architect and develop a Hippodrome where can hold epic Ben-Hur styled chariot races. Then WAHLAH we put Oceanside and Southern California on the architectual map, Classy I think so.

matt labourdette wrote on Mar 17, 2007 10:41 PM:first of all the teams new uniforms are the best in the NFL! and the new stadium should be in oceanside, b/c it is the only football team in socal. this would be a great idea for money wise too! so let the team be in oceanside, for a cool ocean brees for the players and fans. I go to ECHS and everyone i talk too at school cant stop talking about the ideas from this team going to oceanside. we also have alote of charger fans hear too and there behind me on this! thank you for your time.

otto wrote on Mar 18, 2007 10:25 PM:wanna see how the chargers really feel about oceanside? ask them to rename the team Oceanside Chargers. yeah there's your answer.

david wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:12 AM:BRING CHARGERS TO OCEANSIDE.