Community complains over police and immigration cooperation

By: EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer | Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:23 PM PDT

CARLSBAD ---- Some Latino immigrants say recent cooperation between Carlsbad Police Department and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents has resulted in the deportation of at least 15 people and is creating an atmosphere of fear in the community.

Immigrants said police officers are frequently calling immigration authorities after stopping them for traffic violations. Some immigrants said they are specially concerned about patrols in the area around Jefferson Elementary School in the heart of the city's Latino neighborhood.

Carlsbad police Chief Tom Zoll could not be reached for comment Thursday. But he told a group made up primarily of Latinos on Wednesday that in some instances officers call immigration authorities for assistance, including to help identify people who don't have proper identification.

Immigrant rights activists say Carlsbad is not alone. Christian Ramirez, a San Diego immigrant rights advocate with the American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker human rights organization, said his group has received similar complaints from cities around North County.

"In North County, the complaint is ongoing, from every single city's police department, including the (San Diego County) Sheriff's Department," Ramirez said.

One woman who was picking up her son from Jefferson Elementary School on Thursday afternoon said she has been driving without a license for four years. She said she has seen police and immigration officers in the area but can't avoid driving, because she said it's not safe for her children to walk home.

"It's a risk, but I have to drive," said Guadalupe, a 45-year-old Carlsbad woman who spoke to the North County Times on the condition that her last name not be used. "I have to risk driving or I have to risk letting my children walk home from school."

The woman said she was one of about 500 people who attended the meeting Wednesday night at St. Patrick's Catholic Church in Carlsbad with Zoll on the subject of immigration.

At the meeting, several people told the chief they were stopped for minor violations, such as a missing front license plate or a broken window, and were detained while immigration officials arrived.

After hearing about some of the complaints, parishioners at St. Patrick's, which is just east of the Barrio Carlsbad neighborhood, formed a group to investigate. Though the investigation is not complete, the panel said it has found 11 cases of people who were stopped by police that resulted in 15 people being deported.

At the meeting, one man alleged that a police officer asked him for a driver's license while at a gas station. The man, who said he gave the officer a Mexican license, alleged that he was handcuffed and detained in the back of a police car for half an hour while immigration officers arrived. He did not say if he was deported.

One woman alleged that she was accused by a police officer of being a burden to the state after she presented a Mexican identification card to identify herself.

Organizers of the meeting said they did not want the gathering publicized because it would hamper their efforts to work with the Police Department. They declined further comment.

Chief Zoll told the audience at Wednesday's meeting that most of the cases involving immigration authorities were related to unlicensed drivers. He said the department cannot allow people to drive without a license, and that the department would investigate complaints about officer misconduct.

However, if a person gives false information or false identification, police will do whatever it takes to determine who they are, he said, including calling the U.S. Border Patrol.

The chief said Mexican identification cards, including the popular matricula consular, would only be accepted by the department as a secondary form of identification.

Ramirez said police departments need a clear policy on how they approach illegal immigrants who drive without a license. He said if police departments call immigration authorities on routine traffic stops, they run the risk of alienating the community.

"If the Carlsbad Police Department wants to create the perception that they are Border Patrol agents, that comes with a toll for the relationship with the community," Ramirez said.

Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the agency's officers respond to calls from local law enforcement whenever officers available. She said additional funds recently have made it possible to do more interior immigration enforcement.

-- Contact staff writer Edward Sifuentes at (760) 740-3511 or esifuentes@nctimes.com.

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Mike wrote on Mar 29, 2007 9:54 PM:Sounds like police department is doing what they're getting paid to do. What's the complaint?

GFN wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:04 PM:If you are illegal, you know what laws you broke, and you know the potential consequences. You know that the people of the United States were going to rise up sooner or later. Even our government can no longer just look the other way and pretend it is no longer happening. Blame the Muslim terrorists if you won't to, just don't blame the American people for trying to protect their quality of life. Go home; work out a worker plan with us and come back, legally, disease free, and documented.

Careful Carlsbad... wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:11 PM:Escondido has seen a significant drop in public image - all on account of exaggerated immigration problems. Don't fall into the same mess we're in.

Reardon wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:12 PM:Is there anyone who will admit, by name, that they support people driving automobiles on our roads who do not have valid California drivers licenses and active insurance? Anyone? Step right up! This is a really easy "yes" or "no" question.

Howmanytimes wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:23 PM:A woman admits she entered the country illegally and drives on our roads illegally, what the heck! She is a criminal.

KAT wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:23 PM:Wow, this is great. All these years I fought against racial profiling and police corruption and misconduct only to see extremists put enough pressure on local law enforcement to engage on the very activities I spent my whole life trying to eradicate. To Carslbad Police: one's racial and/or ethnic features and characteristics DO NOT constitute probable cause or reasonable suspicion. But, hey, what are the chances of these "illegals" to file a complain or a writ of habeas corpus, right? They will most likely waive their right to a hearing. Shame, Shame, Shame.

Pete wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:24 PM:I guess we're really going back to the days of segregation.

Elke wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:25 PM:The lesson here is is very clear. Do not be brown or latino, and you'll be ok.

Licensed Driver wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:40 PM:Police misconduct, plain and simple. Yeah, they get away with their little pretextual stops, but we all know all of us with indigenous features, illegal or not, are going to get stopped, searched, and harrassed. Fantastic way of employing Community Oriented Policing Carlsbad! I forgot, when I say community I assumed non-whites were part of the community.

Minuteman wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:41 PM:Yes, some of us are now wearing police uniforms.

EthnicStudent wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:41 PM:Most of the time when you have enforcement, the only people who are scared are the ones who are breaking the law in the first place. Why should I be AFRAID because the police are arresting lawbreakers?

Art wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:44 PM:Beautiful, now is ok for police to legally target a certain group, solely on the tone of their skin. This is what I call a proactive police force.

Expell GFN wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:46 PM:GFN, based on your standards of admittance you should be expell from the United States, you're not disease free. You're infected with hate, which is currently reaching pendemic proportions in North County. Just look at the police department.

Daren wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:48 PM:So let me get this straight....criminals are being detained, arrested and prosecuted for their crimes and some ignorant folks are mad about that!! It sounds like the police & the Federal Government are finally doing their jobs. Round 'em up and send 'em back!!

American of Mexican decent wrote on Mar 29, 2007 10:59 PM:Is not the Minutemen and their supporters fault that we're being pushed around this way. It's our innability to unite.

Not News Worthy wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:06 PM:Why is this report news? The police are doing their normal job. Why do people disrespect the laws that are set up to protect the public. No license = no insurance. Watch out for Guadalupe because you'll be stuck with the accident bill.

Lokal Yokal wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:34 PM:Sounds like the Carlsbad Police are doing racial profiling...

Escondeeter wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:42 PM:Who wrote the headline? "Community Complains"? Wow, 80,000 people complaining, must have been really noisy. How 'bout something closer to the truth, like... "A Few Illegal Immigration Activists Complain". Or isn't the "honest" portion of "Honest Reporting" important anymore?

JIGSAW wrote on Mar 29, 2007 11:43 PM:The Police is not profiling. Can't you read! A man with a mexican license, not a U.S. licence, is investigated regarding his imigration status. How do you know that the man has dark skin? If you haven't heard, we have a huge illegal alien problem. Its about time the police pitched in and helped. Those who use the argument that immigration should be dealt by federal authorities only, are stuck on stupid. As stupid as saying that federal authorites should be the only ones to help during a national disaster, as the case with hurricane Katrina. Any help is welcomed.

Skip wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:16 AM:That's funny. The way I read the story is that people who get stopped for traffic violations, and then have no driver's license, or do not have proper identification, then they get referred to the Federal government (Border Patrol). What's the problem ? And for what it is worth, Illegal Aliens in the State of california do not qualify for a California Driver's License. IT IS THE LAW. If Illegal Aliens are living in fear, it is because they can be deported. Like it or not that is the law. Until the laws get enforced or changed, then live with it. Or better yet go back to the country you came from.

Mary wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:50 AM:Wow, law enforcement officers who enforce the law, what a novel concept! Obviously too difficult a concept for those of you coming from the lawless culture south of the border to comprehend. After all you are used to just pressing a few mordidas into the officer's hand and voila, troubles all gone. Strangely we Americans would like to keep some semblance of order in our country, some tiny bit of differentiation between us and the pathetic basket case of a country called Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mexico is the greatest country every, viva Mexico, the best country in the world that half its citizens don't want to live in. There, saved you the trouble of the pat reply.

Sick of Lawbreakers wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:38 AM:People who are here illegally have no rights, so there is no reason to "unite" in order to stop what you perceive to be police persecution. The atmosphere of fear that is said to be forming SHOULD have been around for many years now, but our government has done nothing to stop the flow of illegals through our porous borders. So illegals felt comfortable all this time, sucking our health and education systems dry, when they should have been hiding in fear and not using any of the privileges and social services afforded to LEGAL citizens. Stop demanding rights that are not yours to demand, and GET OUT!!! Go back to Mexico and do your activist marches there, demand that your government help its poor citizens with jobs and social services, and only come back to the U.S. if you can do so legally. I have nothing but praise and respect for law enforcement officers who are finally enforcing ALL our laws and not letting anyone slide just because they have loud-mouth, liberal, America-hating, Hispanic-vote-pandering activists screaming for unearned citizenship for people who don't deserve it.

concerned citizen wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:00 AM:Guadalupe, you need to leave right now. You have no right to be driving around without a license. I don't care you are driving your kids home from school, you are ILLEGAL in every way. Go back to your country and fight for your rights there. Don't risk the lives of the thousands of hard working LEGAL citizens and endangering the drivers and making the roads unsafe by your carelessness and lack of respect for our laws. GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY ! ! !

Reality still bites wrote on Mar 30, 2007 3:32 AM:I can't improve on GFN's comment. The tolerance of the stupid gringos is wearing thin. It was only a matter of time before legal citizens of the US woke up and realized that we are under attack from outside forces. I think that it is becoming clear that the Reconquista isn't a slam-dunk. YES WE CAN SAVE OUR COUNTRY. My roots include both native American and circa early 1600's European. We paid our dues. We won't give up that easily. Si su puede.

Duh. wrote on Mar 30, 2007 3:51 AM:What a concept! Citizens of a community working together to protect it! Say it ain't so! Please don't tell me that we aren't for sale to the lowest bidder. Is there a hint that legal voters and legal potential voters might actually understand what there is to lose. I smell a whiff of patriotic optimism in the wind. But will it last? If I were here illegally I would worry too. What if the party is over???

Thats not all wrote on Mar 30, 2007 4:08 AM:They should have a license check more often. I for one don't like the imposition on my civil liberties and see it as a huge affront to my civil rights. BUT... I have a right to think that way I am an american citizen. If it means that they can put a dent into this illegal issue then fine I will put up with it for now. The ones here illegaly are just scared that they will be the ones to find thier way on a bus back home. They do not have a voice in this issue. Just sit back and take the back roads and you will be fine Maybe...

Thats not all wrote on Mar 30, 2007 4:15 AM:I hear that in the near future Bush will be allowing around 150 different Mexican trucking companies to bring goods anywhere into the US. I think this will be a disaster. these companies are not regulated like our own trucking companies. Are they just going to allow anyJuan with a mexican license to just drive a big rig on our highways?. I think this is a stupid stupid idea.

El Guero wrote on Mar 30, 2007 4:59 AM:'One woman alleged that she was accused by a police officer of being a burden to the state after she presented a Mexican identification card to identify herself.' Give that officer a raise and the agency's highest decoration.

El Guero wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:02 AM:Oh Petey, Petey, Petey, why do you say such foolish things? The days of segregation have never left us. We've always segregated the criminal element from the rest of society.

to Elke wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:09 AM:The lesson is that regardless of the color of our skin or eyes or whatever, when we drive we are required to show our driver's license and proof of insurance to the police when they ask for them. If they ask, and we don't have them, we are breaking the law and got caught. If we can show legal citizenship, we go our way down the justice path. If we are not legal US citizens, we are sent back to where we are legal citizens. I won't miss the unlicensed, uninsured motorists on the road at all. So the lesson really is: be here legally, follow the rules, pay your taxes, no problemo!

OMG!!! wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:14 AM:If I was an American citizen living illegally in Jalisco (no visa, no passport, no work permit ) and committed a crime, I would expect to be deported convicted or not of that crime. But since Jalisco is 35% illegal Americans in this scenario, the federalies have no right to send me packing because I do not look like them. Now I see the logic

This Is Great News wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:29 AM:First of all, Escondido's public image hasn't fallen in my eyes. Secondly, I don't give a diddle if these law enforcement activities alienate (Christian) Ramirez' community. This is all great news. I just pray that this type of activity is as widespread as Ramirez fears.

To American of Mexican Decent wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:33 AM:I am American of mexican decent too and I am thrilled with this news. The reason "you" are unable to unite is because "we" don't all support illegal immigration.

To Pete wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:35 AM:Going back to segregation? You bet! We are going to separate the legals (citizens and legal residents) from the illegals!

To Careful Carlsbad wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:49 AM:I hadn't been to Escondido for awhile. Went to see someone at Palomar Hospital and got an eyeful of what Escondido was talking about. Carlsbad needs to keep doing what they are doing. Escondido should have done something years ago before it got this bad.

To Kat wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:57 AM:Now spend your whole life doing something to stop illegal immigration. It's not racial profiling. If anyone is stopped by the police they are probably doing something illegal. We are a latino family and are tired of the invasion of this country. The USA is already too generous allowing 2 million legal immigrants into this country each and every year. If anything they need to slow things down until they have our immigration problems under control. We can't even track overstayed visa's for heavens sake.

dave from oceanside wrote on Mar 30, 2007 5:59 AM:Gee Mr. Ramirez, how should the police approach illegal immigrants who drive without a license? “License and registration please….. Oh excuse me you are an illegal so I will close my eyes count to 100 and let you drive off without insurance. Have a nice day” And why was it not safe for her children to walk home from school? Hmm illegal aliens in our schools supported by my taxes and they aren’t safe probably because of, oh no I’m going to say it, ILLEGAL ALIEN GANG BANGERS, or ILLEGAL'S DRIVING ON OUR ROADS WITHOUT A LICENSE AND INSURANCE. Thank you thank you thank you Carlsbad Police!

Happy wrote on Mar 30, 2007 6:20 AM:Everyone should know, no one is targetting anyone based on skin tone or race. They are strictly looking for illeagal imagrants who have allready received deportation orders and have no complied. It has nothing to do with discrimination or racial profiling. Get the facts straight. I am glad this is finally happening, California is overcrowded with illeagals. And NOT ONLY MEXICANS!!! that's the only thing that upsets me, there are more than just illeagal mexicans here....what about the asian community and latin communities???? I know that they did take an asian man at a near by apt complex in Escondido, but the news chooses not to report that!!!!

You go Carlsbad police wrote on Mar 30, 2007 6:27 AM:It is great to hear that some laws are being enforced. Get the lawbreakers. Deport the illegals.

RWC wrote on Mar 30, 2007 6:56 AM:If they are here illegally, they should fear. They are criminals!

Zygo wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:02 AM:Fear in the community? By who? Certainly not by law abiding citizens or legal immigrants. Oh, yes...fear by criminals that also happen to be illegal border raiders. That is supposed to bother us?

Happy! wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:04 AM:Illegals have been getting a free ride courtesy of the taxpayers way to long and when our laws are enforced they whine. It's about time these illegals faced the consequences of their actions. We cannot support every poor person from a thrid world country. They should not be here and they should not be driving-period!!! These illegals seem to have no shame and will do anything to stay on the gravy train!

Al wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:04 AM:I'm glad to see that someone is addressing the illegal problem.I just wish we saw more of this at the State and federal levels. Just ask the native Americans what can happen if you don't control your borders and immigration!

vesper wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:08 AM:I am so sick of the complaining on behalf of the 'poor immigrants'. Give me a break, the only ones complaining are the ILLEGAL immigrants who want everything for nothing. Come here with no papers, get a drivers license. Have a child, get welfare. Medical treatment for free. GO BACK TO MEXICO, get your LEGAL papers, come back, PAY YOUR TAXES and we will talk. Until then......SHUT UP!

ARE YOU SERIOUS? wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:17 AM:WAIT...let me get this straight...MY insurance rates are through the roof...because of people driving without insurance, and getting into accidents.....And driving illegaly with NO insurance and NO license. illegal just how they came here, and FINALLY they are getting in trouble and people are complaining????? Ok all you people on here that are supporting illegal driving come pay for my insurance every month!!!! Or better yet...pay for the all the damage in the back of my car that a illegal alien put when he rammed into the back of my car.... who had no insurance, and no license. And Pay for my medical bills too please. If I got pulled over with no license, and NO insurance...guess what?? OH MY i'd get ARRESTED TOO!

fedup wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:17 AM:I think there needs to be a lot more profiling.....profiling for criminals! Which includes ILLEGAL aliens, unlicensed drivers, uninsured drivers, etc.

GFN wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:19 AM:To "Expell"...no hate, nice try, but there's no hate in my post. Recognition of laws that have been broken, a suggestion on how the over-burdened systems-hospitals, jails, schools-can be improved; and recognition of a need to eradicate the increase in the number of diseases such as tuberculosis, directly associated with illegal immigration. Check the schools for verification. Sorry, no hate; just facts.

John ... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:20 AM:Not wanting to sound facetious, but, Mary, your 12:50 a.m. cracked me up!

Carlsbad Resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:23 AM:FYI, illegals pay rent,buy groceries, and own cars so " Yes " they do pay their pay share of taxes and are not here for a free ride. If you send at least half of the illegals, How are you americans going to eat? Who is going to pick, vegtables, tomatoes, strawberries that you some much enjoy. Dont tell me all you americans, african-americans are going to switch your obs and work the " cheap labor" So the ones to lose out will be everyone living in the US and a huge lost of the economy thats already at its worst.

GFN wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:33 AM:More: The protestors use a tortured logic. Get this point: The basic Hispanic illegal immigrant has many excellent characteristics that fit well with the American lifestyle. They are religiously based, mostly Catholic; honest; caring and sharing; family oriented, and they have a strong work ethic. These are wonderful values in a group. And, yes, there is work for many of them in our system, and that is good for us all. The problem is that the federal government has allowed overwhelming numbers of them to impact our society, yet has not been accountable for the costs to the states that are most negatively impacted. In addition, our schools, in Escondido, Vista, Oceanside, and San Marcos are not educating American students as well as they can because there are too many ESL students in the classrooms. Talk to the teachers! And, there is nothing wrong, immoral, or superior about protecting our "quality of life". That is why for the last 40 years in North County as it changed from rural to crowded, copious laws have been passed to protect its citizen's quality of life, before there were hoards of illegals. And, that's the problem; hoards of illegals. This is what is causing the backlash by the cities of North County; they have to do something! No guilt here; no hatred here; no racism here.

Police Stops wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:44 AM:Carlsbad Police department if you want to get rid of the illegals. They you should also pull over the the Iranians, Canadians, Europeans, Filipinos, chinese, japanese not just " Mexicans "

concerned citizen wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:46 AM:"Some Latino immigrants say recent cooperation between Carlsbad Police Department and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents has resulted in the deportation of at least 15 people and is creating an atmosphere of fear in the community." So sad, too bad. When one breaks the law, consequences follow. However, I do wonder why ILLEGALS are called immigrants. Using an incorrect word only adds to the legitamacy of these blatantly illegal folks...

To Carlsbad resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 7:55 AM:You say "illegals pay rent, buy groceries, and own cars so " Yes " they do pay their share of taxes." NO ONE pays taxes on rent and there are NO taxes on food. DUH! My estimated tax bill for 2006 is $34,000. Illegals pay NOTHING!

to Carlsbad Resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:00 AM:You must be smoking some Mexican weed if you think illegals are paying their "fair" share of taxes. Do African-Americans still pick cotton today? No, because we modernized and have machinery do it, just like we can do with our fruit and vegetable if we need to. However with all the cheap, illegal alien workforce here there has been no need to modernize. One last thing- last time I bought groceries, I don't remember having to pay any taxes.

To Carlsbad res wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:06 AM:first of all there is no tax on your rent. The tax that they pay on their groceries does not put a dent in what is spent on just one of their childrens education.(If you think about it , for a large part they get govt. assistance which I pay for ,so if they pay taxes out of that ,its just me paying their taxes) what tax do they pay on their cars? they buy old clunkers off the side of the road.As for our economy, think about it once we stop paying to support their children in school, healthcare ,food, free lunches,afdc ect..I feel that we will be just fine. What makes you think we would have such a hard time figuring out how to eat?The fact that you stated ' you Americans' tells me all I need to know about you ,and that you just wont get it. Hey prove me wrong why dont you grab about 10 million of your friends and leave and then you can say 'I told you so' when America falls apart.

MK wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:07 AM:What the heck is going on??? Mexican Illegals complaining about being deported and want to be left alone and not bothered. Of course they do? They want to be able to drive without a license and it be okay. Who cares about running the risk of alienating the community....they're illegal aliens and they're NOT supposed to be here. Do whatever it takes to get them out!

Lets make a deal wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:18 AM:OK Carlsbad resident. Have the illegal alliens go back to mexico and grow a whole bunch of veggies and then pick them and sell them to the united states. To be honest that will save us money because the vegtables would be cheaper. Your argument is not only ignorant but is getting very very old.

True but... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:21 AM:Law enforcement should enforce laws like driving without a license or insurance but they cannot not tell by looking at you. I have yet to hear a white person complain about getting randomly pulled over for the same reason (because it doesn't happen). Racial profiling is wrong, even if it is for the "right" reasons.

Go Carlsbad! wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:22 AM:Way to go, Carlsbad Police Department! How can the critics say they are alienating the community? The only ones they are alienating are the Illegals. Keep up the good work. I wish more of this would go on in Escondido where I live.

Illegal Alien Community Complains wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:23 AM:A small segment of community, those who support illegal immigration, is complaining. The majority of the community is in support of cooperation between local police and federal immigration authorities. Get the headline right!

You can't tell who.... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:30 AM:is legal and "illegal" just by looking. Aside from being asked for ID, the article did not mention anyone actually being cited for a traffic violation...hmmmm.

Cooperation Protects Americans wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:33 AM:The 9/11 terrorist Newaf al Hazmi overstayed his tourist visa. This terrorist illegal alien was stopped for speeding in April 2001 and let go. Mohammed Atta (the 9/11 ringleader) also overstayed his tourist visa and had an outstanding bench warrant for failing to appear in court for a traffic violation and driving without a valid driver's license. Florida issued this terrorist illegal alien a driver's license. Atta was stopped for a traffic violation in July 2001 and let go with only a warning. Hani Hanjour (the Pentagon pilot) violated his student visa by never attending the appointed school. Hanjour was ticketed for speeding in August 2001 and let go. Ziad Jarrah (the Flight 93 pilot) violated his tourist visa. On September 9, 2001, this illegal alien terrorist was ticketed for speeding (90 mph) and let go. Four examples where local police officers had a chance to foil the terrorist's plot based on immigration law violations that could have been uncovered in connection with a traffic stop. The twin towers and 2000 souls are gone partly because some 'activists' do not want cooperation between local law enforcement and federal immigration authorities. Americans deserve and demand the protections provided by cooperation!

AResident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:34 AM:Let's clear this up. It is against the Law to drive a veichle without a license and insurance. Just because you feel like doing it doesn't make it right. Don't use children as an excuse. ... You know it is only time before you get caught and have to go back to your home land. Start the process to become legal. Stop disrespecting the laws. You came here and you knew the laws before that. You are a discrace to your RACE.

Let's talk Racism wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:41 AM:I am a white male, my best friend in the world is a black female. She has 2 children that are half black and half mexican, who I love dearly and would do anything for them. But one thing all four of us have in commmon. We are AMERICANS! Get it?

Ken wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:45 AM:If I have to go through the legal process to drive here, so do all the others. What gives them the ideal that they can live here illegally and keep breaking our laws? We, as citizens, being here legally, are probably paying for educating their kids. All illegal aliens need to return to their own country and if they want to come to America, then come here legally. Great work Carlsbad Police and hopefully you will be making a whole lot of checks to make sure that all of those driving on our roads are doing so legally.

Immigration Status Inquirys Are Constitutional! wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:51 AM:The Supreme Court has ruled that police do not need reasonable suspicion to ask a person about immigration status. KAT is working under the delusion that the 9th Circuit's unconstitutional ruling is still the law. The 9th Circuit was wrong, but until the Supreme Court cleaned up the 9th Circuit's mess, illegal immigrant activists used this unconstitutional ruling to attack proper and effective law enforcement activities. In the Muehler Case(544US93), Mrs. Mena sued Officier Muehler for detaining her in handcuffs while the house was searched for a gang member suspected in a nearby shooting, and for asking about her immigration status. She was a permanent resident. The jury awarded her $60,000 for violation of her constitutional rights (4th amendment)! The Ninth Circuit ruled that Officer Muehler violated a 'requirement of particularized reasonable suspicion for purposes of inquiry into citizenship status.' 332 F. 3d, at 1267. No wonder police officers quit asking about immigration status! The Supreme Court threw out Mrs. Mena's case. No $60,000! No constitutional right to hide ones immigration status. The Supreme Court said, 'mere police questioning does not constitute a seizure. . .even when officers have no basis for suspecting a particular individual, they may generally ask questions of that individual; ask to examine the individual's identification; and request consent to search his or her luggage. . . Hence, the officers did not need reasonable suspicion to ask Mena for her name, date and place of birth, or immigration status.' So Carlsbad Police officers should ask for a person's immigration status and make a record of the response if the driver fails to produce a valid driver's license!

To Carlsbad Resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:57 AM:These folks don't seem to be taking your threat seriously. It's time to call their bluff, pack up 12 or 13 million of your closest relatives and leave. They'll be crying then. Gracias amoeba.

Guadalupe wrote on Mar 30, 2007 8:58 AM:why don't you risk going back to your country of origin? I am sick of people like you who break our laws.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:01 AM:I applaud the Carlsbad Police Department and any/all police agencies involved with enforcement of our traffic laws and immigration laws. The bottom line is, we pay law enforcement to do a job, and it’s comical that those who are affected are the first to claim discrimination. But, we are all subject to laws, including traffic laws and it’s not just immigrants and “people of color.” How pathetic the argument that this enforcement would “alienate immigrants” from our law enforcement agencies. It sounds clear to me that the immigrant advocates and illegal aliens are trying to take the heat off. I have news for them, they better be looking over their shoulder. And, they better get off our roads and go back to Mexico and wherever they come from. They are putting me and my family at risk driving without a license and insurance.

NO MORE TAX BREAKS wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:02 AM:for the Catholic church. It encourages groups of people to disregard the laws of our land and look at their mess with child molesting priests? They should not be allowed to be untaxed. They are way too political to be tax free.

Apples and Oranges wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:09 AM:Don't hide behind 'my kids are at risk, walking from school',: Step up and say that 'I did not have a valid California Drivers license', and/or 'I have been driving without a license and/or ( possibly,)Insurance' and/or my car had defects that prompts any law enforcement officer in America, to stop me'. STep up and say ' As a secondary, direct result of breaking those laws, It was determined that I did not have the right of entry into this nation' and the Border Patrol was called to do the diligent, prudent thing that they need to do. so don't hide, Step up!

Guadalupe is right! wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:18 AM:Is is VERY DANGEROUS for her children to walk home from school - they might get run over by an ILLEGAL who driving without a license and insurance!!! Maybe she should pack up and head back on down to good old mexico, where it's really safe!

Who's America? wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:19 AM:It is the law. You must possess a valid license and insurance to drive in California. It is the law. You cannot cross over the border where ever you want and enter the country illegally. If you don't want to follow our laws, then go back from whence you came. It is just that simple.

It's Simple: wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:22 AM:We learned in Kindergarten: "If you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about." If you are here illegally you should be afraid. If I had entered any country in the world, illegally, I would be afraid of being discovered.

Press1 for English, Press 2 for Deportation wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:26 AM:I'm a Carlsbad resident and am delighted in the fact that our police are doing their jobs! Illegals, this is just the beginning, better deport yourselves before enforcement gets tougher.

GO HOME wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:32 AM:Seriously, if an American was in Mexico and got pulled over, most likely they would go straight to jail and spend waaaay too much time and money for whatever the crime may be. I dont have a drivers license right now, and i DONT DRIVE cause i know if i get pulled over, I would go to jail! It shouldnt be any different for anyone- regardless of their race or color! Good job CPD (for once), keep sending them back!

Jonus wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:34 AM:To "Lets make a deal": Good idea - let's try it. The "vegies" will undoubtedly be "cheaper", but most likely full of toxins!

Veteran wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:41 AM:The only people that would be complaining about this are the illegals. Who cares what they think? If they do not want to live in fear of deportation then GO HOME. More power to the city of Carlsbad and their police department. Sounds like some citizens are actually starting to do something to battle this invasion of illegals.

OMG..... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:42 AM:Sorry Guadalupe, if you don't have a license you don't drive. Make other arrangements.....like maybe walking them to school and walking to pick them up or use the city bus system. You're breaking the law, PLEASE don't make excuses! Gee I had a licsense and no car and I got my children to school. Maybe stealing a car would have been a good excuse for getting my kids to school? NOT

Matt wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:42 AM:Maybe immigration should be at the border. Could that be the problem?

Jorge wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:43 AM:To KAT: Shame, shame, shame on YOU! You must be kidding!!! These folks have the Southern Poverty Law Creeps' Services, MALDEF, LULAC, NCLR, the ACLU and a myriad of other unAmerica "legal" folks on their side. If they didn't, don't you think this whole problem would be moot? If you are a lawyer or a student of the law, you are sorely lacking in your knowledge of this ridiculous attack on America! Whenever law enforcement makes a traffic stop or any kind of arrest of ANYBODY, a background check should be performed. White, brown, black or purple, it should be an integral part of the process. Period. Perhaps the legal members of the barrio communities don't understand this. No action is ever taken against people who are not breaking the law. Maybe we can arrange a date between KAT and True but...Neither seem to 'get it,' and they might enjoy one another's company.

Carlsbad Resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:47 AM:Ok Lets make a deal...I will take your offer. This way Mexico's economy grows and the US will suffer a bigger lost. Why didn't you accept my offer of switching jobs and working the cheap labor? ha! ha this only proves my point that you neeed illegals to survive. Next time your at resturant enjoying your meal you can thank a mexican. Remember " NO Tomatoe NO Ketchup "

Time for Audits wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:53 AM: People start writing letters to Jerry Brown requesting audits of these non-profit advocacy groups. Start with the ACLU and Christian Ramirez and then go down the line. See how they hide like cockroaches. You will be amazed at what you will find!!!

Jay wrote on Mar 30, 2007 9:59 AM:Who writes this crap? People who are in the country legally have nothing to worry about. Those in the country illegally deserve to be ferret out, rounded up, and immediately ejected from the country. Americans are fed up with those parasites.

Rob wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:10 AM:The more they complain, the more people become aware of the Mexicans who have broken into our country. SEND THEM BACK ! --Just a few at a time will send a message.

Jose wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:13 AM:Illegal Aliens should be breaking the laws in their own country not in the USA.

Mike wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:13 AM:What is so wrong about inforcing the law?????? They would lock us up and or fine us for driving without a license for four years??? Why are these illegal in other words already law breakers being given bleeding heart articles in the paper when what is happening should be applauded and I do thank the police and other agencies are finally doing. There are many leagal citizens that are having their rights violated and taxes expended at an alarming rate and all you seem to comment on is pooor pooor law breakers!

Carlsbad Resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:17 AM:I will be happy to take my 10 million friends back just dont be surprised when you wake up and see 20 million. Wake up America illegals will always be here and only multiple. Instead of worry about the illegals the goverment should bring back the troops.

lets make a deal wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:25 AM:Carlsbad resident, That is the whole idea. Once our nieghbors from the south figure out that the best way to change things in thier own country is by changing it's economic strutcure to one of productivity and not one of global welfare then we will ALL be better off. Stop running away from the problems of your own society and bring them across the border for us to deal with. We will get along fine without your unwanted help or influence on our society.

John wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:27 AM:An undocumented person ran a red light and broad-sided my vehicle causing $1800 worth of collision damage. I was unable to recover as much as my deductible as this person was unlicensed, uninsured and didn't speak English. These are the very ones who are complaining about being "harassed", and your "staff writer", Sifuentes, appears to be siding with the law-breakers. Mr. S. need to brush up on the California vehicle code,...

To "True But" and to "You Can't Tell Who" wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:28 AM:Read the following sentence: "Immigrants said police officers are frequently calling immigration authorities after stopping them for traffic violations." What part of that statement (from the article) do you NOT comprehend?

US Citizen US Citizen wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:28 AM:If you are illegal, you are breaking the law! There is no debating this. Do the right thing folks, and go through the process of becoming a citizen. Then, you won't be illegal. This is a no brainer! It's a privilege to live here, it's not your right. If you do the right thing, pay all the same taxes, insurances and such and go through the process of becoming legal, then there would be no problems. But, the illegals come here thinking it's there right to be illegal, not to pay all the same taxes as the citizen's of the United States, drive without insurance, and drivers licenses and such. That's the problem and that's why there are profiled, not because the color of their skin. They cause these issues, not the Citizens of the United States! They are the cause their own problems! They are the cause of all these issues and the US Citizen's are tired of being blamed for this!

To "Carlsbad Resident" wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:30 AM:Where did you learn English?

Perry wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:31 AM:If you broke our immigration laws Tough luck!

Another Carlsbad Resident wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:35 AM:I am all for the police DOING THEIR JOB! If a Carlsbad officer catches me in a traffic violation he will stop me. I know, because it has happened. All this whining is nothing more than a smokescreen by the activists to generate controversy, and to get our government officials to "call off the dogs" so that they can continue in their efforts to "unify" North America as they want it to be. These people aren't even aware that they are simply pawns in a bigger chess game with the US/Mexican interests on one side and the American citizen on the other. I'm all for the police citing and deporting any and all who are caught here illegally. I'm also all for calling our local officials on the carpet in an effort to restore our sovereignty before we're all sold out.

Jonus wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:37 AM:Re "Carlsbad Resident" 9:47 a.m. post: I'm a senior citizen survivor. What makes you think I couldn't continue surviving without illegals? I don't use ketchup and I certainly don't think of illegal Mexicans while I'm having my dinner. You need to get off your high horse and admit that you are a burden on the American way of life!

Jeffersonian wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:37 AM:Is it really profiling since 12 to 20 Million Mexicans are in the country illegally. I think not. Stopping someone for a minor traffic violation is plenty of cause to deport em.

THE ONE wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:45 AM:OOOPS! sorry, I thought we were talking about ESCONDIDO.

Think before you type.... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:50 AM:You are all correct with all the comments BUT they would not be here if we did not provide....housing,WIC (food), head start (daycare), welfare, and the best americans JOBS!!!!! There not here for fun tha Americans provide the jobs. HELLO!!!

typical NCT's LIES! The wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:57 AM:community isn't complaining it is the illegal immigrants and their supporters... remember the LAW BREAKERS????? The Criminals??? We don't CARE what they want the taxpaying AMERICAN CITIZEN WANTS MORE ICE AND MORE DEPORTATIONS AND NO AMNESTY!!!!!!!!

To Jonus wrote on Mar 30, 2007 10:58 AM:Just thought you'd like to know: two thirds of all farm workers are legal residents. The 'who's going to pick your crops' argument is bogus. The answer is 'most of the same people who are already picking them'.

If the CATHOLICS are going wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:00 AM:to be in volved in politics TAX THEM TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't like it? wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:14 AM:California has a right to decide to check immigration status before issuing a drivers liscence. California has a right not to issue a drivers liscence to a person who doesn't have the necessary documentation of legal status. If you don't have a liscence or insurance and drive you deserve to be arrested and deportation if you are here illegally. If anyone living in Mexico doesn't like it--DON"T ENTER ILLEGALLY!

The NCT's and EDWARD SIFUENTES wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:15 AM:strikes again. Talk about Dumb and Dumber. It is the LAW they are breaking. Does the NCT's and Mr Sifuentes have NO regard for our laws? It appears they ONLY care about ILLEGAL ALIENS!

Hispanic Female wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:15 AM:I would not under any circumstances object to the Carlsbad Police (or any police for that matter) stopping me, even if I had not broken any laws. At least that way I would know they are FINALLY doing something about the INVASION from illegals. Kudos to you Carlsbad Police Department!!

Peter wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:22 AM:The way I see it, the Carlsbad PD is to be complemented for such enforcement steps. Living in Oceanside, I’d be glad to see OPD doing likewise. As an AMERICAN of Mexican descent, and with Hispanic features I would gladly be inconvenienced if stopped for a vehicle violation of which I was not aware, since I am a licensed driver, with current insurance, current registration, and except for possibly receiving a fix-it citation I sure I would be shortly on my way. As for the argument that they are Americans also, we all know that if someone from Mexico and someone from the U.S.A. is visiting Spain, for example, and they are asked where they are from the person from down south will say Mexico, and if the one from here says America, the person that asked them will not think they might also be from Mexico. The illegals and their supporters only claim to be Americans when it is convenient.

American woman wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:33 AM:To "Think before you type:" THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE.

Paying Taxes? wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:33 AM:Yes, illegal immigrants pay their taxes. When they pay rent, they pay for the property tax the landlord has to pay. When they buy stuff, they pay sales tax. When they work, the employer pays taxes (and if it's under the table, then the problem is with the employer, not the employee). Hate them if you must, but most of them are just here to work and they DO pay taxes in one way or another. The problem is with the criminals and the drugs that are coming across the border. We need to fence the border to slow down the flow, and punish the real criminals.

vesper wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:36 AM:HEY CARLSBAD, You seem to think we( Real Americans)would not be able to make it without all you illegals here in our country. I have news for you, we would be better than ever. You try to pretend you pay taxes, on what? Most illegals work for cash under the table, no taxes there. (And a LOT of REAL Americans would be happy to work for taxfree pay) Money that should be returned to OUR communities is then being mailed BACK TO MEXICO. What benefit to America is that? NONE. All you want to do is whine about how hard it is ........ get over yourself. Obviously you are a wuss and can't deal, because you left your own country when things were hard instead of trying to make a difference there. It is so much easier to come here, get most everything for free, break our laws and whine when you get caught. You want to talk about bringing our military home? How about this, we start a grassroots program for legalizing those who are here by offering them a choice. 4 Years in the military, served in full, in a regular unit - no special all illegal units - and at the END of your term of service, you will have earned the right to be a CITIZAN of the United States of America. How about EARNING what you seem to desire so badly? I bet all your guys taking the "hard" way by taking so called "dirty jobs no one wants" will run like hell when given a chance to do something REAL.

Illegal wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:37 AM:Look it up in the dictionary. This entire article showcases people doing illegal things. This is not news, this is flippant violiation of the LAW. What part of this do you not understand? If these people were spray painting your walls at night, "oh, you're illegally here, sorry, you can stay", come on. GET A CLUE. I know the NCT like every other paper just loves to be controversial, but come on, this just just ridiculous.

to Paying Taxes wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:44 AM:There is a BIG difference between paying taxes on toilet paper and gasoline, and what the illegals are taking in return from free social services that legal Americans don't use. Maybe who we should really punish are the airheaded liberals with their pie-in-the-sky viewpoint of "Oh, poor noble immigrants, they're just here to work, boo hoo..." What the illegal aliens are here for is to bleed the system dry, and they're doing it. Look out your window.

sorry Paying Taxes? wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:44 AM:YOU ARE WRONG. I work in construction. They are NOT hardworking tax paying folks trying to get ahead. They drink and drive without a license. When they come in the morning to get their checks you can smell alcohol on their breath. They are all married with 9 children so they pay no federal or state taxes. I worked at NC Health Services in San Marcos where they all get free medical care, dental care and WIC. I deposited the checks from the state of CA every week for the medical and dental care of ILLEGAL ALIENS paid for with my TAX money. I AM MAD!!! It needs to stop now!!!

To Paying Taxes wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:45 AM:No they are NOT paying taxes because they DO NOT HAVE Social Security Numbers. How are they paying taxes if they cannot file with the IRS? Sales Tax? Rent? Please, let that be all I have to pay out.

netzali wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:49 AM:***** THIS WOULD CHANGE YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS OF "ILLEGAL IMMINGRATION"****** netzali 17 years old TO ALL MY FELLOW "AMERICANS" WHO ARE HERE "LEGALLY"? HOW MANY WHITE FOLKS LOVE TO GO TO FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS? COME ON ASK YOU'RE SELF! WHO IS TAKING YOUR ORDER AND SATISFYING YOU EVERYTIME YOU STOP BY? WHO IS GIVING YOU YOUR FOOD WITH PRIDE AND DIGNITY? WHO IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROUD TO HOLD THO MOST DIRTY AND UNPLEASANT JOBS? NOW ASK YOURE SELF WHO WILL DO THESE JOBS IF THEY GET DEPORTED? HONESTLY, NO BODY! NO BODY!... DO YOU THINK MY FELLOW WHITE AMERICANS WOULD WANT TO DO THESE JOBS OR OTHER "LEGAL IMMIGRANTS".. HONESTLY NO! AND THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION"... ITS ABOUT FAMILIES BEING TORN AWAY, ITS ABOUT HUMANS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS. ITS ABOUT MY PEOPLE THAT DAY AFTER DAY GIVE UP THEIR LAST DROP OF SWEAT TO HARDLY MAKE THAT MONEY! NOW YOU THINK ABOUT IT AGAING! IS IT RIGHT THAT A LAW OR FEDERAL CUSTOMS DECIDE WETHER FAMILIES GET SEGREGATED? :( NO MATTER WHAT YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS IS; THROUGH THE EYES OF MY LORD JESUS, NO ONE IS "ILLEGAL IN THIS WORLD"

Ms Taletha wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:50 AM:Bank robbers should feel fear. Home burgars should feel fear. Child molesters should feel fear. Rapists should feel fear. Car thieves should feel fear. Why not criminal border crossers? Why should they be exempt??

IDAHO MOM wrote on Mar 30, 2007 11:58 AM:EXCUSE ME, BUT CRIMINALS ARE SUPPOSE TO FEAR THE POLICE!! THAT'S WHY MOST OF US DON'T BREAK THE LAW! FEAR OF CAPTURE AND PUNISHMENT!! BEING LAW ABIDING IS THE ONLY WAY TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR IN AMERICA!! IF YOU ARE ILLEGAL THEN YOU SHOULD LIVE IN FEAR, FOR YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAWS! IF YOU ARE A LEGAL IMMIGRANT AND OBEY THE LAWS YOU HAVE NO REASON TO FEAR UNLESS YOU JUST ENJOY PLAYING THE VICTIM FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT!

If Jesus met you on the border... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:11 PM:netzali, would he tell you it is ok to steal, that it is ok to break laws? No, he wouldn't. He would tell you, to go back home, and do it the right way. Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's, once you do, we will in turn, give to God, that which is God's. Simple... it's all right there in the manual. read it again.

Mike wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:15 PM:Edward Sifuentes' bleeding heart editorials get funnier all the time. Who needs the comics?

Nicky wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:17 PM:THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, Carlsbad Police Dept. for doing a super job. It's about time there is some cooperation between the Feds and the Locals!

John wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:18 PM:To "netzali": I've worked many of the "dirty" and "unpleasant" jobs you're talking about. It's presumptuous of you to think that American society will fall apart without illegal immigrants. When I go to a fast food restaurant I expect the person taking my order to get it right.

to netzali wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:19 PM:To be honest, the last time I was "satisfied" at a fast-food restaurant was NEVER, which is why I stopped going completely. The only place I even think about going to anymore is IN-N-OUT, because it isn't staffed by a bunch of surly foreigners (note lack of "Pride" and "Dignity") that can't or won't speak English AND can't get my order right. And here's a piece of advice---drop the talk about "White folks". This whole business has nothing to do with color, and we all know it. The only reason you cry "racism" is because your argument is so weak.

to netzali wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:33 PM:Let's show them "White Folks"! Pack up 12 million + illegals and head south (be sure and take the 2% of illegals who actually work in agriculture). That'll bring them to their knees. They'll be sorry then.

Fast Food Jobs wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:39 PM:used to be held mostly by young high school & college kids who worked after school & around their class schedules. I know, because I was one of them. I'm white, female & born in the USA. It's not the most pleasant job I've had but not the worst or dirtiest one either. I applaude the Carlsbad P.D. for upholding the Immigration laws. If you're here illegally, you should live in fear. If you don't like it - GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM!

Hey wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:51 PM:aren't the Feds breaking Child Endangerment laws by allowing rapist and child molester into our country? To attack AMERICAN children!

dave from oceanside wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:52 PM:By my last count when 118 comments were printed, 103 respondents support the police action and the other 15 are against. Sounds like an overwhelming majority want law and order re-established in our community. It's a start Carlsbad, now for Oceanside.

here we go again.... wrote on Mar 30, 2007 12:57 PM:ok, so it seems that NCT does not want to print the comments of those who use FACTS to dispute some of the idiots posting here. (netzali). I see how it is and since my reply was no longer than many of the others here, obviously you feel like promoting a pro-Illegal point of view. I will cancel my subscription the same way I cancelled my bank account when Bank of America started a program to offer credit cards to those without social security numbers. (illegals again) One person at a time, we WILL make our LEGAL voices heard.

I Feel Sorry for Netzali wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:01 PM:I pray she is just a teenager, because it would be a shame if an adult held such a narrow view of "white folks." Many, many of us have worked fast food, construction, housecleaning, and the trades. The only white folks who'd fall apart would be the greedy, rich bastards who never change their own kids' diapers or know how to hammer a nail. Seriously, you need some history lessons...I fear for our public high schools if this is what they're turning out...

Lola wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:25 PM:Hey mi kid gets stopped by OPD and Carlsbad police ALL the time!!! Why? because he drives a 25 year old junker!! That is all he can afford since he is a college student. Frankly, they don't ticket him in fact they all ready know him by name and I don't have a problem with that. So if you are not doing anything wrong or breaking the law you have nothing to worry about...

Mike wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:27 PM:Finally, the police are doing the job they should have been doing all along. Hey, if the federal government wont enforce the laws someone has too. The churches need to stay out of it. They have enough of their own problems. To the women who drives without a license, I hope the cops deport you and your kids as soon as they find you.

Get a life wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:43 PM:What's with a lot of the above bloggers? This isn't racial profiling. Are you telling me you like lawbreakers on your freeways and in your communities? I bet it would be alright with you if these were white folks being "profiled" as you say? The poor mexican man or woman has is so bad in the big bad U.S. I feel so sorry for them. Boo Hoo!

MK wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:53 PM:You know what I really find interesting???? All of these comments we're writing are aimed at the Illegal Aliens...right? Now think about this.. those Illegal Aliens CAN'T READ the comments we're writing. They can't even SPEAK ENGLISH...at least the majority of them can't. I would also imagine that the Illegal Aliens can't even read Spanish...their own language. I'm not sure what my point is...just an observation.

Thumbs Up for the Carlsbad Police Department! wrote on Mar 30, 2007 1:58 PM:Thank You for honoring your Legal Citizens and Upholding the Law! that's what We pay You for and we appreciate your service.

To Netzali wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:01 PM:I will be VERY Happy, when all the Illegals are removed from the Fast Food Restaurants. It will be nice to get my order right the first time, without having to repeat myself 10 times because an Illegal does not understand plain English. More jobs for Legal English Speakers.

racist? wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:15 PM:All you bloggers should check out the NCTimes editorial "coastal croynism". This country is not going to melt together, it is going to melt down.

kc wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:21 PM:An "atmosphere of fear"??? If they're not doing anything wrong what are they afraid of?

To MK wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:21 PM:I'm not at all sure comments are aimed at illegal aliens, who may or may not even read. Would hope the people who make and enforce our laws read English. If so, they will pick up on the fact that an overwhelming majority of citizens aren't buying in to the bleeding heart drivel that Edward Sifuentes keeps publishing.

Reardon wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:23 PM:Is driving without a valid drivers license and active insurance, a right granted only to people with brown skin? Or, can anyone participate? If just brown skin people escape the need for license and insurance, is that racial discrimination against Black, White, and Yellow pigmented people? I am so confused...

Former Legal Alien wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:26 PM:Hurray for the CPD. It's about time. Eleven stops sends back 15 Illegals, great job. Guadalupe is afraid for her childeren so she has to pick them up from school? She should consider taking her family back were it is safer. She shouldn't be here to collect all the freebies in the first place. It's about time this is happening. No amnesty to Illegals.

anotherview wrote on Mar 30, 2007 2:37 PM:Every modern nation, including Mexico, controls who lives and works in the nation. America must follow suit. Yes, America can free itself of illegal aliens. The news article describes this desired outcome beginning on the local level in a cooperative effort with the federal authorities. Additional actions will speed the process of ridding America of illegal aliens. The U. S. Congress in partnership with the President must amend the law to require all employers to verify that their employees and job applicants have a legal right to work in America. By definition, illegal aliens do not have such a right. The U. S. Congress and the President must also say No to any amnesty for illegal aliens. (An amnesty will only encourage more foreign nationals to migrate illegally to America in expectation of another amnesty later.) Without the prospect of either a job or an amnesty, the illegal aliens will tend to self-deport (at their own expense), and the foreign nationals will tend not to migrate here illegally. In turn, jobs will open for Americans. Employers will adjust to the absence of a low-cost, docile labor pool of illegal aliens in two ways: One, by offering higher wages, better benefits, and improved working conditions, to attract Americans to do the jobs that illegal al