Three injured in Oceanside drive-by shooting

By: SARAH WILKINS and JO MORELAND - Staff Writers | Monday, April 16, 2007 11:49 PM PDT

OCEANSIDE ---- No evidence of violence remained Monday in the San Luis Rey neighborhood in north Oceanside where three people were wounded Sunday in what authorities said may be a gang-related drive-by shooting.

Two teenage boys and a man standing outside of the Timbers Apartments in the 500 block of Fredricks Avenue were hit by shots fired from a sport utility vehicle shortly after 9 p.m., police said.

"(The victims are) all expected to recover," said Sgt. Leonard Mata.

The suspects are described as a group of Latino males driving a brown or black SUV with large chrome wheels, Mata said. They drove up to the victims ---- ages 16, 17 and 20 ---- at about 9:10 p.m. and exchanged words before shooting the victims as they ran away.

Mata said two victims were transported by Mercy Air helicopter to a local trauma center, and an ambulance crew took the third to a local hospital.

The names of the injured weren't released, so their conditions weren't available.

No one was in custody as of Monday evening, Mata said.

The shooting shattered a tranquil Sunday night for the senior citizens living at the nearby Rancho San Luis Rey mobile home park at 200 N. El Camino Real, said one resident.

"It was like rapid fire, maybe 10 or 15 shots rolled off," resident Victor Ry-Nash said. "It caught our attention. It was so distinctive, because Sunday night's very quiet."

Jessica Foster, who said she lives upstairs from one of the victims, said she didn't hear the gunshots but saw a neighbor making a 911 call.

"Everyone was out watching, we saw the helicopters go out," she said, adding that detectives remained at the complex until at least 3:30 a.m.

The shooting came as a surprise to some area residents, who said while there are occasional problems in the modest, tree-lined neighborhood, things have generally improved over the last several years.

The neighborhood and apartment complex was quiet Monday, the only activity was children playing and residents walking dogs.

Oceanside resident Aaron Isaia, who visited nearby Fireside Park with his children Monday afternoon, credited the city's police with making the area quieter than when he was growing up.

"A couple of years ago there was some gangs, but now it's calm," said Isaia, adding that he lives in a different neighborhood but often spends time in San Luis Rey because of family that lives there.

"In the late '80s, when I was growing up, it was wild in Oceanside, period," Isaia said. "Gangs were more seen, but now you don't see as many. They were more flamboyant back then."

Timbers resident Adam Foster said that in the month he has lived in the complex, he hasn't really noticed gang-related activity.

"You don't see too many people out in bandanas or anything," though there is graffiti, he said, pointing at spray-painted scrawls on the sidewalk.

However, neighborhood resident Ernie Nieto said police presence in the area has recently picked up.

"In the last three weeks there's been stuff going on," he said.

According to police, a 14-year-old boy was assaulted and robbed on Fredricks Avenue on Wednesday by another teen, who stole his month-old puppy. Authorities also reported an apparent gang-related shooting at Fireside Park on March 17 that left one man injured.

Contact staff writer Sarah Wilkins at (760) 761-4414 or swilkins@nctimes.com.

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E.Reed wrote on Apr 16, 2007 11:07 AM:If the miscreants were born in this country BUT their parents were illegal immigrants at the time of their birth the law should be amended so that they could be deported after serving their sentences

Aw come on wrote on Apr 16, 2007 11:40 AM:Wait for the facts befor you start your illegal immigration rants. There is no information in this article to indicate race or nationality. I am for enforcing immigration law but I am sick of the mindless rants on articles that have nothing to do with that subject. Why don't the editors delete posts that are off subject?

Sarcastic wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:13 PM:Oh my gosh!, a shooting in Oceanside? Really? That kind of stuff doesent happen here? You mean I dont live in Mayberry anymore? Tell us something we dont know :-|

Concerned-1 wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:15 PM:We might as well start the immigration rant now. Illegals are to blame even if it was white kids. Illegals take the white kids jobs, leaving white kids no option but to do robberies.

El Guero wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:15 PM:I completely agree with Concerned-1 on this one

Hmm wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:40 PM:I agree with what Aw Come on wrote. Get the facts first, before you start assuming that it was a crime committed by illegals. Are the illegals the only group of people who are gang members in Oceanside? I must say, im more affraid of you, and your "jump the gun" comments than I am of illegals. Facts baby, confirmed them first!!!

to Sarcastic wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:52 PM:If you don't like it move, you will not be missed

James wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:54 PM:Aw Come one is right, it is clear that E. Reed and others like la guera do not care about who the victims are. Silly

just me wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:55 PM:I guess some people are in need of attention. This article is about people being shot, not about illegal immigration. Go post your ignorant comments somewhere else. If you're not smart enough to realize that crimes are committed by every race, every ethnicity, illegal or illegal, you might want to spend your time getting an education, not posting ignorant comments.

Maybe if the white kids wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:55 PM:weren't so LAZY they could have a job. Its not the illegals fault the white kids lack disipline, motivation, and dont know how to earn an honest dollar through the labor of love call WORK. Take responsibility, wake up early, go to McDonalds, submit job application, get hired, and stop crying!

Just me wrote on Apr 16, 2007 12:58 PM:I guess some people are in need of attention. This article is about people getting shot, not about illegal immigration. If you're not smart enough to realize that crimes are committed by every race, every ethnicity, illegal immigrant or not, then maybe you should spend your time getting an education, instead of posting ignorant comments.

esteban wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:00 PM:All gang members are cowards and don't deserve to live among us good folk.

Just me wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:00 PM:It doesn't take a rocket scientist to pull a trigger. You don't have to have a job to shoot a person, just a small brain, and a big ego.

Wake up wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:07 PM:This community seems pretty safe to me, but when I hear about things like this happening it's pretty scary. Whoever did this obviously doesn't have any concerns for others. I live close by where this shooting occured and it's a wake up call to anyone who is concerned for this community.

Just me wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:16 PM:Do you really think that crime would end if there were no illegal immigrants?? Let's be realistic. I think adding "illegal immigrant" to your comment is no different that bringing up race. It's irrelevant. Hopefully these guys are okay and the person or persons who are responsible will be held accountable.

SOR wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:28 PM:You know what is sad about this whole situation? The fact that there are kids constantly being hurt in Oceanside from ongoing violence and all you people want to do is show how ignorant you are by posting negative comments. I pray for the youth of Oceanside and also for the youngsters that were involved in this shooting. We need to stop pointing fingers and start being the change we want to see in the city. God Bless CLE

Stealth Blogger wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:31 PM:Each and every problem in North County results from illegal aliens. Each and every problem in North County will be solved by simply returning illegal aliens to their countries of origin. THE END

Very concerned and saddened wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:36 PM:I do agree with Just me and also especially Esteban. These kids may be of all races, it doesn't matter, but what are teenage kids hanging out on the corners at night?? We just want the parents to have concern over their children and involve them with more supervision and education. The parents are entirely to blaim for all this gang involvment, not explaining that getting a job and not wanting to kill someone to make a point and to work hard. This is everyone's opportunity and responsiblity with children.

HISPANIC MAN wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:40 PM:TO BE HONEST I HAVE SEEN MY RACE GO DOWN HILL THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE ARE TO BLAME FOR ALMOST ALL THE CRIMES IN VISTA AND OCEANSIDE. UNFORTUNATELY I AM HISPANIC BUT THE TRUTH IS HARD TO SWALLOW SOMETIMES. IT'S MOSTLY HISPANICS IN THE GANGS AND IN THE JAILS. WE NEED TO DO BETTER PEOPLE. RAISE YOUR KIDS RIGHT, DADS STOP LEAVING THE MOMS AND BE GOOD FATHERS TO GUIDE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE. HISPANCS HAVE SOME GOOD INSIDE BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT DOING OUR PART THESE DAYS AND IT REFLECTS BADLY ON ALL HISPANICS (LIKE ME)!

Alf wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:41 PM:Why is it that every article about a crime seems to have one of the first five comments be about illegal aliens? Oh, I forgot, to some irrational, extremely demented minds there was no crime, is no crime and will be no crime were it not for illegal aliens. My mistake, how silly of me. Sardonically, Alf.

It takes a village... wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:42 PM:We as a community and society need to work together to prevent this. Parents, teachers, community leaders, and every other adult needs to be involved in the lives of young people in a positive way. Children need role models in their lives. We as adults, regarless of profession and relation, need to show them how to live a positive and productive life. This means giving of time and energy to show young adults that you care, not arbitrarily assigning immigration status and writing them off as other people's problems. Are you sick of seeing shootings and violence? Don't point fingers, be a catalyst for change!

John wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:45 PM:Wow- after reading all of the inane comments here . . . I think I am cancelling my subscription. This must be the dumbest readership since Mad Magazine.

Aw come on wrote on Apr 16, 2007 1:49 PM:Concerned-1 this was a drive by shooting not a robbery. There is plenty of work for anyone willing to work. Not earning enough? Get an education. Quit blaming others for for issues and get to work on improving your own lot.

crashd wrote on Apr 16, 2007 2:30 PM:Why not get to the point. One citizen that is allowed to carry a concealed handgun could have stopped all this and stopped these thugs. But no, not here in lib California where only the best cronies and contribiutors of the local police agency or sheriff get approved for a permit. And where was your vaunted 911 and local police when this was happening? Face it, they are not here to protect you but rather to protect the government from us. So you go ahead and face these street criminals down with your cell phone and let me exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to protect myself and carry a handgun. If you don't want to, fine, we won't force you, but that is no reason to not allow me to protect myself and my family!

Gangs are Illegal wrote on Apr 16, 2007 2:44 PM:Lock them up. Problem solved!

Oside Native wrote on Apr 16, 2007 4:06 PM:Did I miss where they even mentioned Mexicans, or illegals ANYWHERE in this article. For all you know, it could have been blacks, Samoans, whites, or any other race that did this. All of you that are so quick to blame Mexicans and/or illegals should really take a step back and realize that Oceanside has a GANG problem, not a Mexican problem. GANGS in Oceanside are ALL races.....YES, even Caucasion!!! Oh, my gosh. Who would have thought?!?! Wake up and welcome to the Big City of the O.

Osider wrote on Apr 16, 2007 4:08 PM:To Concerned-1 & El Guero- You guys are a bunch dummies to even talk about illegal immigrants. R U reading the same story as everyone else or R U just plain ignorant? Stop blaming your problems on the hispanic race. If you havent noticed, most of the state as hispanic street names and cities. GET A LIFE PAL!

Agreed wrote on Apr 16, 2007 4:35 PM:We need to do like just about every other country. If you come here illegally, the kids you have here are illegal. No more anchor babies. They are ruining us with their Third World mentality.

To E. Reed and John wrote on Apr 16, 2007 4:38 PM:I saw in the "say what" someone talk about how pathetic it is how people will attach the ill imm issue at every opportunity. Thanks E. Reed for keeping the trend of blind stupidity up. Where does it mention the anyone's immigration status? Shouldn't gangs be the issue? I mean, if the kids are white, does that make it all less of an issue? No. This whole ill. imm. knee-jerk reaction distracts from the issue of youth gang issues in Oside. I really hope Stealth Blogger was sarcastic. And JOHN, please please do not remove yourself from the conversation, we need every intelligent voice possible, especially in this hateful jungle of comments.

Airport Annie wrote on Apr 16, 2007 5:02 PM:Possibly gang related? Give me a break. This city and these neighbors need to get together to take their community back! You need a Concha Green! Someone, please, step up before it's too late!

Vehicle Cop wrote on Apr 16, 2007 5:03 PM:Let's just outlaw all cars in this neighborhood...none of these crooks have the guts to walk up the street..

GFN wrote on Apr 16, 2007 5:58 PM:O'side Native, good try...but just watch what happens. I will certainly apoligize...if I'm wrong; promise.

Skip wrote on Apr 16, 2007 6:54 PM:OH NO ! Not another SUV. Thoses SUV's are killing or wounding people all over North County. Next thing you know thwy will cause Global Warming.

To Oside Native wrote on Apr 16, 2007 6:57 PM:You are absolutely right that gangs come in all races. Even Caucasians. Last time I read a gang report in the NCT I think they stated that there were at least 6 Caucasian gang members in Oceanside, and I think they were wannabee's.

Blame Me!! wrote on Apr 16, 2007 7:03 PM:Too much emphasis is placed on who to blame? I will take the blame for crime committed today, yesterday, and in the near future! These are kids hurting kids. Parents, put away the shovel, loosen up the tie, and put away the day planner. As a matter of fact bring back the day planner and write in everyday of your planner that you will sit and talk with your child for the rest of his/her life. Start today even as you read this comment. Ask your child how his/her day went. Next, ask them what they ate today for lunch. Another good question is to ask what they talked about in classes at school. Parents be persistent with your child and know that they will not make every perfect decision in their life. However, they will always know who to talk to for advice. Hopefully that "who" is you. If the parent is not persistent, the "friends" will be. This will not eliminate crime, but will increase the amount of good decision makers among our children. Ethnicity is of no relevance, because the bond between a child and parent has no borders!

Fasteddy wrote on Apr 16, 2007 7:33 PM:Where does ereed state that it was illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants invoved in this crime?

Skip wrote on Apr 16, 2007 8:55 PM:But the SUV was described as brown or black with chrome wheels. What about the suspects or the victims?

A Reader wrote on Apr 16, 2007 9:20 PM:We live right where the shooting happened. We've known that this, or something like it, was going to happen. It was just a matter of time. The last few months here have seen a huge increase in gang acitivity. Anyone can walk up Fredricks Ave., north from Los Arbolitos, and see all the grafitti on the sidewalk and everywhere else for the next couple of blocks. Pay attention, and you may even see who's loitering in the area. I don't feel safe here, and I'm angry. I have a right to feel safe where I live! The children who live in this area have a right to a safe place to play!

What would you do??? wrote on Apr 17, 2007 6:03 AM:According to the Department of Justice, a Community racked with Crime, Drugs and Gangs is considered to be dysfunctional, meaning that the Parents, Schools, Police and the community are not working together in the best interests of the children. Oceanside is considered a dysfunctional community. Oceanside has a population of 170,000 and our Future or 35,000 are children. How would you solve this problem? !) 85% of families are considered dysfunctional….. 2) Oceanside Unified School District like most districts are concerned with Academic performance. OUSD reported to the State per the NCLB an average 30% truancy Ratio. These are the children not attending school regularly and according to the county 75 % of those children not attending regularly are considered to be committing crimes. The graduating class of 2005 was 960 strong, however when in the eight grade they were 1632 strong. That is a 42% difference or Dropout rate. And lets not forget Zero Tolerance. 3) Oceanside Police, according to the DOJ suppression, intervention and prevention are the components required for resolving the problem. Since we lost our first police officer in 2003, our police Department with a 34 million dollar budget has doled out over 1000 years in prison sentences and we as a community have buried 50 children. Oceanside police Department now has a 47 million dollar budget. Secretly documenting children as gang members and waiting for an opportunity to arrest them is not preventative. OPD is and has been in a heavy suppression mode, and we miss the intervention and prevention component. Long term suppression, according to the DOJ adds to the problem… 4) Our community focus seems to be on Growth, businesses and tourists. With an 80 plus million dollar budget, more than half goes to he Police. The city just awarded 280 thousand dollars of federal money to programs for food, shelter and at-risk kids. For those of you with the lock them up attitude, the 1000 years of prison sentences is a 40 million dollar tax burden to you and me. And 75 percent keep going back. California cannot build prisons fast enough. Crime evolves. We have plenty of laws for criminals; the trick is to keep the young from being trained into crime… Oceanside has 12 documented Gangs and 1200 documented gang members, that is over half of North Counties gang problem. We have more crime per capita than New York City. Our gang problem equates to ½ gang per elementary school, 4 gangs per middle school and 6 gangs per high school. Not all of these children criminals, but it would appear they have plenty of opportunities. Illegal Immigration is part of the problem. Not all of the problem. According to the National Drug threat assessment 85% of the Drugs consumed in America are made in Mexico and cross that same us-Mexico border. Do you think that closing the border would have an impact on the Drug trade. How would you resolve these problems so that we may have brighter futures. I support saving the Whales, However we seriously need to consider our children…………… God Bless the Children………………………

Hello? Can you read? wrote on Apr 17, 2007 7:36 AM:The article states the suspects are described as a group of Latino males.

Concerned and saddened wrote on Apr 17, 2007 8:16 AM:So, with all the ideas and proposed stats in place, where do we start? Where does the door open to where we can all make a difference? Really, who is going to make the intial move to get this as a full chain of custody to enable the community, law enforcement, schools, parents and children? If we can all work together on this on a positive note instead of the reaction at the beginning of the blog to quit pointing fingers, I would happily step up and work as a commmited citizen to make this happen. We just need more of you to do the same. I would commit my time to see change be applied, and I would hope that you would all too, no matter what race you are. I would just like to know where and how we get the ball rolling. Any ideas, anyone? I just moved to Oceanside less than six months ago in the neighborhood not far from the scene. I am commited to apply my time and energy to make this happen.

Oswald wrote on Apr 17, 2007 8:18 AM:Looks like the gangs traded in their lowriders for Big SUV's and fancy wheels. The drug business must be very profitable indeed.

Kristie wrote on Apr 17, 2007 8:26 AM:Thank you What would you do. This community needs to take it's head out of the sand and deal with this community problem. You hear about what they are doing for a little while but then it's no longer the issue. This issue should be brought up and discussed at every single council meeting, school board meeting etc., as to what is being done this week or what was done last week so it is not dropped. Why is their grafitti anywhere in this community? There should be a zero tolerance and huge community awareness as to what to do and where to call. NCT should have a weekly/daily section as to what can be done and what is being done about gangs etc. As for those that talk about illegal immigratants. It shouldn't be brought up until proven. However Illegal Immigration has added to these and other problems. We had enough to deal with without adding to it.

Pete Nice wrote on Apr 17, 2007 8:40 AM:Just remember that American citizens commit more crimes than illegal aliens & illegal aliens pay billions in tax dollars that your government keeps & still complains about them being here. Race has nothing to do with the shooting & illegal aliens are not taking jobs from lazy white kids who's parents give them everything they want, except discipline. Then they try to imitate the gangs & get off easy when they commit a crime.

brown wrote on Apr 17, 2007 9:14 AM:not everyone with brown skin is an illegal. My family has been here since 1865, longer than 99.999999% of you white people looking to pin your problems on minorities, a trend you can trace back to this country's infancy.

esteban wrote on Apr 17, 2007 9:30 AM:So you drive up and shoot some unsuspecting kids..........ooooooooo....tough guys!!!!!!! Listen up all you gangsters and gang supporters....you are the bottom of society. You are lower than child molestors. You are cowards and NO ONE loves you. Please leave the country, or WE will make you leave!

to esteban wrote on Apr 17, 2007 10:08 AM:Dont talk trash behind your computer, you know that is very childish. God will punish you.

read what it says, not what you want to hear... wrote on Apr 17, 2007 10:11 AM:for those that don't read, the 4th paragraph describes the suspects as Latino males. It does not state weather legal or illegal, for that you will have to wait until they are in custody. Beut it does appear that 'white kids' have been eliminated as the suspects.

Why wrote on Apr 17, 2007 10:29 AM:Why does esteban posts sound like a very bad public service announcement?!?

Ron of Knightwatch on youtube wrote on Apr 17, 2007 10:51 AM:According the the City Council 'What Gangs?!'

Ron of Knightwatch on youtube wrote on Apr 17, 2007 10:52 AM:Esteban, you know you're hitting the nail on the head when non-names pop up here and start cyberstalking you. Gangbangers are cowards and they prove it in many ways.

disgusted wrote on Apr 17, 2007 10:59 AM:Apparently, the only think gang bangers understand if superior force. But notice they shot those kids while running away. How manly is it to shoot someone in the back ? And it doesn't matter what color or race or citizenship staus they have. Their actions are what matters. They will keep up this behavior until something or someone forces them to stop. NOt all gangs are bad ...but those that condone or encourage these kind of actions definitely are... and they should be exterminated...just like the ants that invade my home.

Are you surprised wrote on Apr 17, 2007 11:13 AM:Is it racist to point out that shootings like this rarely happen in towns like Poway or Del Mar or Santee? Draw your own conclusions from that question...

To Ron of Knightwatch on youtube wrote on Apr 17, 2007 12:09 PM:Where were YOU when all of THIS went down? Cyberstalking kids? Go catch some REAL gangbangers and leave our neighborhood children alone! The only reason why you still roam about with your whacky videos is because you're messin' with innocent children. Try catching some REAL gangbangers and criminals and I bet it would be the last time we hear of you. You should take your camera to Fredericks Avenue and catch some REAL crime.

Give Me a Break wrote on Apr 17, 2007 12:52 PM:I hate that ignorant people start posting racial comments. Your main targets minorities and illegal’s. Its world war 2 starting in the US. With so many Americans blaming minorities. It seems to be a specific target with Latinos/Hispanics. How in the hell, do you start blaming people for taking your jobs? First of all you need to get off your a** and fight for your rights, and put yourself out their. Second of all I know personally of white kids who would rather die than do the jobs illegal’s do today. They are way to spoiled. On this article, Kids have way to much freedom now in days, both parents need to work in order to get by. We need to pay attention to our kids and take care of this gang "issue". When parents aren’t home its so easy to go out in the streets. Violence, drugs, sex unfortunately is something they pick up. These kids need to know how to choose their friends and worry about their education and future. If these kids are doing this now, parents need to wake up and put a stop to it.

White Meat wrote on Apr 17, 2007 12:54 PM:I hope they have insurance. I don't want to pay the hospital bills! Ship 'em back to MExico

Fredricks commuter wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:10 PM:I frequently use Fredricks to and from home. I have to tell you I am not surprised. There are numerous people loitering about at all hours of the day and night in the area of these apartments. As for sending Ron from nightwatch. Please...I don't want to be followed around by this right wing wacko. Since I drive a red car and support teams that wear red. Let him stay at Melba Bishop where he can pound his chest.

To Ron wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:13 PM:You wouldn't know a gangbanger if he stuck a gun right in your face. You are all about yourself and self gratification. Besides innocent kids don't skateboard on this street.

To Esteban wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:17 PM:Sorry dude...But nothing is lower than a child molester. Nothing...Not even a coward with a gun.

foursquare wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:32 PM:Until the police capture the shooters and their accomplices in this drive-by shooting, the talk of the national origin of these criminals amounts to speculation. The news report does give their general description as "a group of Latino males." In the local half-world of journalism, the word "Latino" (like the word “Hispanic”) generally serves as a euphemism for the word "Mexican." Hence, no sophisticated reader of local news will suppose that the word "Latino" here refers to, for example, an Argentinean. On the other hand, previous news reports have mentioned the sizable percentage of Mexican criminal illegal aliens among criminal street gangs. Thus, by simple probability, the reader will note the possibility of the suspects in this drive-by shooting as Mexican criminal illegal aliens. We must, however, await better information before drawing conclusions as to the nationality of the criminal suspects.

JustMoved wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:38 PM:I have recently moved to the Oceanside area from L.A. Although crime is very high in L.A. and nothing can shake me up cause it all comes as human nature now to me, still, I thought I had moved to a half decent neighborhood. I have family who visits from L.A. and love Oceanside, it just seemed so calm and all. I live right off of Fredericks, and it shocked my husband and I to hear the helicopters, and then to hear what had really happened, it scares me for the safety of my 1 year old daughter whom I thought I was raising in a better side of town. I am not saying I am going to get up and move asap, it's just a bit scary since I actually took afternoon walks literlally in that area! Guess I will have to put those off.

esteban wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:50 PM:Ron, that's why I addressed my comment to the gang supporters...like the guy who said I shouldn't trash talk on my computer..he's as gutless as the rest of them. Ron, we should go get a beer someday.

Ok amigos wrote on Apr 17, 2007 1:57 PM:point taken, you no want me, me go back to mexicko...TRICK, GIMME, GIMME!

DUH...Oside Native... wrote on Apr 17, 2007 3:03 PM:Did you skip reading in school?? the article clearly states that it was a GROUP OF LATINOS!!!! I'm with E.REED....depoort all these dang illegals and seal the darn border!!

John wrote on Apr 17, 2007 3:26 PM:So how did this conversation spiral out of control? The poster simply began: "IF the miscreants......". I interpreted his comments were directed at the loophole in our constitution which allows the children of undocumented immigrants to automatically become U.S. citizens.

Aw Come on wrote on Apr 17, 2007 3:50 PM:The article has been updated since my post. I still say wait until the info comes in befor you jump to conclusions. I would also like to see NCT either post a new article when they get new info or note any updates with date and time of the posting of new info. Help keep us posters from looking like fools, we are good enough at that without the help of the NCT staff.

Concerned-1 wrote on Apr 17, 2007 4:08 PM:I give up. The Concerned-1 post at 12:15 p.m. April 16 was not the real Concerned-1. I don't get it. Why do people do that? I may go incognito from here out. Sorry for the confusion.

Ron of Knightwatch on youtube wrote on Apr 17, 2007 5:50 PM:Hmm, I might have to make another video, then another, and then, another....

esteban wrote on Apr 18, 2007 9:35 AM:Yeah, you're probably right...child molestors are pretty low...but gangsters are right down there with them.

El Primero Mero wrote on Apr 18, 2007 1:14 PM:I didn't see anywhere in this story the ethnic group that was to blame for this incident. From my experience, gangs are made up of many different races and national origin. Also , to blame the so called "illegals" for taking the white kids jobs, I found that quite funny, alot the kids now a days are little spoiled kids whose parents answer to every beck and call. What 10-12 year old kids really NEEDS a cellphone, or if your kid is not the star of the local baseball or football team you take him elsewhere to play...People just be happy bombs are not dropping on our houses and you can choose to vote.. relax enjoy the beach and live...

NewMother wrote on Apr 20, 2007 3:25 PM:I live right around the corner from where this happened, literally. We can see the scene from our pourch. I think this is very scary especially with having a new baby. I dont think it is a reason to start pointing fingers though. We dont know who committed this crime, so dont assume and make yourself look stupid. Wait to see if they catch them.

NewMother wrote on Apr 20, 2007 3:34 PM:"Hello? Can you read? wrote on April 17, 2007 7:36 AM:"The article states the suspects are described as a group of Latino males."" Where does the article state that??? Or maybe I just cant read??

IT'S THERE NOW ! wrote on Apr 21, 2007 7:07 AM:The suspects are described as a group of Latino males driving a brown or black SUV with large chrome wheels.

Skip wrote on Apr 22, 2007 5:23 AM:RE : Aw come on wrote on April 16, 2007 11:40 AM:"Wait for the facts befor you start your illegal immigration rants >>> Can we start now or do we have to wait for NCT to add the suspects country of Citizenship?

Appalled local parent!! wrote on Aug 14, 2007 3:21 AM:Was I surprised by the shooting? No. Locals hear the gun shots regularly so we have a clue what happened. What appalled me with this story was the ending. "According to police, a 14-year-old boy was assaulted and robbed on Fredricks Avenue on Wednesday by another teen, who stole his month-old puppy." This is something that local residents should be notified about immediately!! When kids are getting beaten up and robbed of their belongings or their family pets, there is NO reason the local residents should not be notified in order to take the proper precautions! I see so many children out walking their family pets, taking out the trash, etc. if they can't walk in safety the residents should be NOTIFIED!!! This is not something "heard" like gunfire, this is something we NEED to be told!!!

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