O-Side Princess wrote on May 31, 2007 6:05 PM:Wow. And hopefully the lesson is learned....

A mom of 9 year old boy wrote on May 31, 2007 6:12 PM:I will tell my son of this story, so he further knows the consequences of such dangers, and explain to him how it is good that no innocent person was hurt or killed. The only ones to blame here is the kids themselves...but the person that bought them all that beer will forever have to live with this.

Jeremee wrote on May 31, 2007 7:04 PM:The person that bought them beer is by no means liable for the illicit behaviors that lead to their deaths. Thats like blaming a drug dealer for selling methampetamines to a drug addict which causes the drug addict to overdose. Those boys were old enough to make decisions. Understandably the person whom provided alcohol was the SOURCE, but you can't jump to conclusions and finger-point at this point in time. Gun shops sell guns, you can't tell me gun shops are liable and responsible for a persons free choice to kill himself or other people. Just ridiculous. Fingerpointing is typical in our society nowadays.

Voice of Reason to Jeremee wrote on May 31, 2007 7:21 PM:You could blame the gun shop owner for selling a gun to a teenager, or to a person who is not legally qualified to have one. The person who bought or provided alcohol for these students should be held criminally liable, at least for contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Ultimate responsibility lies, of course, with the young men who chose to engage in this type of behavior. Hopefully their deaths will not be in vain--hopefully other will learn from their example and not make the same mistakes.

Skip wrote on May 31, 2007 7:41 PM:To : Jeremee >>>> HELLO IS ANYONE HOME? Two of these kids were only 17 years old. That is not an adult in this country. These kids were not past the age of consent, and any person furnishing drugs or alcohol to them can be held fully accountable. It was the parents of the kids who went in the bus or did go at all that I have respect for. I bet a lot of kids from this school fought with their parents over attending this trip because they wanted to be cool and go with the crowd. I would never let my minor children go on a trip like this, as it is asking for trouble. I went to South Torrance high when I was growing up, and even though we were located only a few miles from the beach they would never sponsor a trip like that. In fact the only trip that I ever made on my own, that was sponsored by the high school was to our 20-year reunion.

To Jeremee wrote on May 31, 2007 7:50 PM:There is a reason why we have a legal drinking age of 21. Yeah it doesn't make some people more responsible at 21 but no way should someone be buying 17 and 18 year olds alcohol. They shoudl be held somewhat responsible for this situation. I feel for these families in their time of loss but I am also glad that more innocent lives were not taken in this accident.

DeeCee wrote on May 31, 2007 8:03 PM:Hello Jeremee! ... IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO SELL OR PROVIDE ALCOHOL TO UNDERAGE PEOPLE! DUH!!! Alcohol is LEGAL in this country as long as you're LEGAL to consume and or purchase. IT IS NOT LEGAL TO DISTRIBUTE TO A MINOR! You're the parent (or future parent)that we should be afraid of!!

no Nmae wrote on May 31, 2007 8:15 PM:This is such a tragic ugly part of life that seems to come every year at this time. I know when I was young I did really stupid things and sometime wonder why I am still here. I just hope and pray that all teen age kids (and you are still kids...enjoy it) read this story and fully understand that this can happen to them. These young boys woke up yesterday morning with their whole lives ahead of them. Looking forward to enjoying the best week of their lives. Graduation, grad nite, college this list is long. In one split second it is gone and their families are the ones feeling the pain. May these new angles work hard in heaven and hopfully prevent the next teen from putting themselves in this awful situation. RIP boys and may your families find some peace.

Michael D. wrote on May 31, 2007 8:30 PM:Being an adult carries with it the responsibility to know what is appropriate, to consider potential consequences, to exercise good judgement and to lead by example so that our kids will know how to be good adults and live long enough to be adults. Providing large quantities of alcohol to 17/18 year old high school kids is a stupid and irresponsible act that puts lots of people at unnecessary risk. And for what purpose? The dead kids are responsible for their own decisions (God rest their souls and bless their loved ones); no one knows that better than they. But the reason we differentiate between kids and adults and make adults responsible for kids is because kids often lack the capacity to exercise good judgement, to know what's appropriate and/or to control their impulses. Real adults understand these facts and respect the duty they have to help kids avoid making stupid, and deadly, decisions.

oneway7 wrote on May 31, 2007 8:54 PM:It is a real shame that these four young boys lost their lives in such a wasteful and careless manner. My heart goes out to their parents,siblings and to those who cared about them and loved them. I myself have two sons and two daughters. I cannot imagine losing any one of them in this manner. In brief I would also like to address the point of the person who provided the liquor. He is by all accounts a co-contributor to these boys deaths- Who ever you are may God help you, because unlike the four young boys you will have to live the rest of your days with this on your heart and mind.

No accident wrote on May 31, 2007 9:01 PM: The person who provided the beer to a minor will be held liable. A bartender who serves a drunk another drink can be held liable. An accomplice in a crime when someone is killed can be held liable. A cigarette smoker can sue a tabacco company and get millions even when a warning label is on the package. People will sue for the money and not accept responsibility for their actions. These boys knew the dangers!

Growing up wrote on May 31, 2007 9:22 PM:It is always the other guy until it happens to a friend or loved one. That's when you learn what gone forever means and begin to understand what it means to be mortal. That hard lesson is part of growing up. To his friends and loved ones I will say it will hurt less with time but it will never stop hurting completely. My sympathies.

Denise wrote on May 31, 2007 11:13 PM:I think the whole drunk driving tragedy stories are played out.All these programs in regards to drunk driving are a complete waste of time. I have absolutely no sympathy for what happened. Everyone says hold the person who bought the alcohol accountable...that's just finger pointing. There's plenty of ways those "young men" could have gotten beer. The person or people who decided to drink the beer...then drive drunk 40+ miles...endangering other innocent people.....that's who's responsible!!!! Those young men knew what they were doing could result in an accident or even death. Some people learn the hard way. Such a waste of life. Hopefully their families donate their organs to other people who really need it....at least those guys dying won't be a COMPLETE waste!!!

Chief wrote on Jun 1, 2007 12:45 AM:Why where they allowed to drive themselves to a school function? This is the reason why I was not allowed to drive to a school funtion when I was in high school. You either rode the bus or you did not go. Now that being said. The families will sue the school district the person who supplied the beer, and caltrans for the design of the freeway that lead to the crash. Sound crazy? Yes it does but you know when the lawyer gets involved, it gets crazy.

Ford wrote on Jun 1, 2007 12:50 AM: If they find out who supplied the alcohol. They will be held liable for the killing of 4 kids. Lets just hope that these ... did a grab and dash. That way they have nobody else to blame. They made the decision to drink and drive. Whether or not the driver was drinking the peer pressure of the drunks effected the driver. Hey people wake up...DON"T DRINK AND DRIVE!!!!

David wrote on Jun 1, 2007 12:56 AM:Come on...When I was in high school 30 years ago, everyone knew the liquor store that sold beer to any one. I mean anyone they didn't care. Fortunatly I was smart enough that I didn't drink and drive. I walked to the store got my beer and partied then walked home. My parents were not stupid. They knew what was going down and I didn't drive. This wasn't the first time these boys drank. It was the first time they got in a wreck...and the last.

Parent of 2 teens wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:43 AM:My daughter will be graduating on June 13th & I know how much I'm looking forward to that day! That is why my hurt aches for all the families & loved ones of these boys! Saturday should have been their day to be a proud parent! The poor judgement & bad choices made by these boys will forever change so many lifes! Teens don't believe things like this will happen to them... I know I remember being one of those teens back in the day! Adults do the exact same thing these kids did how many times daily? It's not just because of their age! If it is proven the driver had alcohol in his system then THAT is the reason for this tragedy! Alcohol & speed DO NOT mix! 42 beers & 100 mph is a deadly combination no matter how old you are!! I realize 42 beers weren't consumed at the time of the accident but we all know it was just going to be a matter of time before they were headed home with alcohol in their system. Losing a friend at any age is hard to deal with, but even harder I think at this tender age! I hope and pray that the death of these boys will atleast make some of these kids think twice as they head off to grad parties. I don't see how the schools can prevent kids from using their own transportation in the future so it may be just a matter of time before it happens again. How did the school plan on turning these carloads of kids away from a public beach? Hmmm! Why do the school feel it's necessary to go so far from the area to have a good time? It's like prom night all over again! Once again a school event 50+ miles away where we all know drinking will & does take place, yet we say ok be home by such & such time! The fact this doesn't happen ever year is amazing! My thoughts & prayers go out to all the families!

Reguardless wrote on Jun 1, 2007 6:47 AM:of who bought the booze or drugs or whatever they had in their system, when you get your Drivers License it is clear NO DRINKING AND DRIVING. It is not Rocket Science!

Angel wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:09 AM:My condolences to the families, friends and loved ones of these boys. This is a very sad ending to such young lives. You can sit around and argue about who's fault it was until the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is they were typical young boys that made a fatal mistake. Hopefully other teenagers will learn from this and not make the same fatal mistake. God Bless all these families and may all these boys rest in peace.

Ray wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:25 AM:It is a sad world we live in where kids need to use alcohol to feel happy or as a way to "celebrate". As long as this way of thinking pervades our society, this and other newspapers will be reporting stories like this one every year. May God have mercy on their souls and one us who are left to grieve and try to figure out where to go from here.

Nothing learned wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:20 AM:They learned nothing from the MADD presentation, they learned nothing from the accident two years ago. A new class will start next year, fresh new invincible kids. Parents that buy them cars and let them flaunt the rules.

Stoneware... wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:35 AM:Sue, Sue, Sue... It's the American way. The blame game and lawsuits are destroying our society. All for money... It's just getting out of control. You could blame the people that gave/sold them alcohol (and destroy their lives too), or you could simply chalk this one up as another tragic accident. These kids were old enough to know what they were doing... If it was a bunch of drunk 14 year olds, I would be more concerned. If there were 42 beers cans around, these guys had defintely partied before. When you first start drinking, you'd be lucky to drink a 6 pack of beer before puking. Once again, it's unfortunate, but people die every day from stupid mistakes. Lesson learned, move on. -Stoneware

BLG wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:37 AM:My first thought was: "Oh, what damage and pain can be caused by such stupidity . . . the parents and loved ones will be shattered forever and those boys should have thought of that before such reckless behavior." But then I started to remember some of the stupid antics my friends and I engaged in when we were the same age, celebrating our own milestones in life. So my second thought was: "There, but for the grace of God, . . . " My sympathy to all those who knew and loved those boys.

Held Liable... wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:39 AM:What does it really mean for someone to be held liable? Does it make the parent feel better that they can point the blame to someone besides there son? Do they want to hold someone liable so they can sue the person, distributor and/or store that supplied the alcohol? I've heard it all before...it's not for the money, I just never want this to happen again. Yeah, right. Now's your chance to be a responsible parent and come to the conclusion that your son made an extremely sad and poor decision. The only ones to blame are the kids who were acting/driving irresponsibly.

Father of 2 wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:51 AM:AS a father of 2 boys, I have followed this story for the past couple of days and my heart goes out to everyone involved; the boys who tragically lost their lives, the students and officials of the HS, but most of all the love ones left behind to deal with this. I am sure that these were told on numerous occasions the consequences of such actions but WE can't be with them 24/7. WE have to our best within our homes to illustrate and lead and mentor them hoping that when put in a situation to make a good decision or a bad decision, that they will choose to make the right decision. Furthermore, WE must let them know that it is OK to say no to speeding, to say know to drugs, and to say to know to all the things that are not right. Anyone of the 4 boys could have stopped this from happening. I agree that an investigation should be initiated to find out who provided these young boys (not adults) with 42 beers and bring them up on charges and penalize them to the maximum. Even if they are not located, this person will have to live with this for the rest of their lives. Sympathy to all.

To Skip and Jeremee wrote on Jun 1, 2007 9:00 AM:Get this straight...those kids are dead...blaming others is stupid...why don't you blame the tree? They died stupidly...The only thing you can do now is teach your kids not to be as stupid and live their lives to fullest and not make stupid mistakes...if there are any law suits (i.e. to the school, the police, the beer buyer, the tree, cal trans for building I-15 anyone) that is just stupid...

Roberto1 wrote on Jun 1, 2007 9:06 AM:Hindsight is 20-20...This is truly a tragedy.

Rob wrote on Jun 1, 2007 9:19 AM:Why stop with the person that bought them beer. Blame the liquor store, the beer distributor, the brewing company and their advertising company. While you're at it, blame the tree too, what was it doing there???

To Their Friends wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:07 AM:The most tragic thing to happen isn't the death of four teenagers, but the common sense that eluded them. They activated a time-bomb to explode, and it did. No finger-pointing or misguided blame is necessary here. Look at the facts, accept the truth and move on! Teens + alcohol + speeding = imminent disaster!

Crying!! wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:07 AM:I do not know these boys, but my heart aches for their families. I read this article to my two teenage daughters to make them see they too are not invincible We all cried. This could have been someone close to us. All the people making negative or hateful comments need to stop and think that this could happen to someone they know. Unfortunately you can not say these boys learned their lesson as they have no life to live in order to learn. God Bless!

Dianne wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:07 AM:wow- regarding some of the comments..you can tell who on this board are NOT parents or over 21.

Kym wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:08 AM:First, my condolences and prayers go out to the family and friends of these four young men. I also agree with Denise. While the MAD/CHP programs may deter some from drinking and driving, they're obviously not getting through to many kids. Instead of taking field trips to the beach, why don't schools (or parents!) take students to county morgues or hospitals to view firsthand the mangled bodies that result from such stupid actions. Take them to drug rehab centers and maximum security prisons; let them meet drug addicts and prisoners in person. Photographs don't hit home with some, but a firsthand glimpse just might. I don't have kids of my own, but if I did, you can bet it's what I'd be doing by the time they were in junior high. Seeing firsthand what drugs do to a person between 8th and 9th grades, is what scared me enough to stay away from them. Alcohol and crime could work the same way.

Not to blame wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:22 AM:Stop blamming the source that the alcohol came from. My father was (still is) a wine & spirits distributor. Alcohol was in our house 24/7 in large amounts. Yeah, I took some and drank some when I wasn't of age, but I NEVER did something like these boys. Being 17, you know the dangers of drinking and driving....kids that are 8 know the dangers. No one to blame except for the boys in the car - mostly the driver, but the so-called "friends" riding with him should have stepped up and said this is wrong and this is dangerous. At this point, you can't even blame the parents. All 4 boys knew better. The choice they made lead to 4 deaths. Go back to the top comments and read comment from Jeremee - he says it well!

Selling to underage wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:29 AM:Sure, if they find where the alcohol came from, take actions to fine the store that sold it or whatnot, but the source of the alcohol wasn't the problem.....it was the decision of the driver to engage in dangerous behavior when he KNEW IT WAS WRONG AND DANGEROUS. It's really sad that something like this happened and that we all chat about it on-line; the truth hurts.....but hopefully the truth is sinking in to others. And to families, may you be at peace and understand that kids to things and we ask ourselves WHY? 'After all I thought them...they should have known better'....may you find peace at night and celebrate the good times you had with your children.

Marvin wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:33 AM:IM SORRY FOR MY BROTHER I LOVE YOU...

mARVIN wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:36 AM:I AM DREFULLY SORRY FOR WAT HAPPENED 2 MY BROTHERS..I LOVE THEM...

Rev Lovejoy wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:43 AM:They chose to imbibe the alcohol and so reaped their just rewards for it.

LIN wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:55 AM:What a tragedy. I have 2 children and I cannot handle when the fall and get scraped knees let alone dying and leaving my side forever. My prayers go out to the Family and friends of these boys. God bless their souls. I see that everyone has mentioned underage drinking and driving which I think is a compleatly bad idea, but the news also mentioned that the boys were"racing". Maybe instead of focusing on who bought the boys their beer they should focus on who was racing against them right before the crash occured ...???????

msmaddog wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:08 AM:How about a Thank God for all the other people they could have killed but missed while out having their fun!!

DeeCee wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:13 AM:I only have tears for the friends and families that are heart broken....the driver played russion roulette and LOST! Thank god my son wasn't driving on that road while they were showboating or somebody's butt would be grass and I'd be the lawnmower!

Sue wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:16 AM:My son is a student at Perris High, and he said that its been a very rough few days. There is alot of sorrow, and the media is swarming. I really hope that this has opened the eyes of the graduating students eyes around the county and elsewhere here in Southern California abt drinking and racing down the freeway. Its so uncalled for and I feel so sorry for the families involved. This time of the yr is supposed to be happy times and the kids going on with thier lives and becoming adults in society, not being killed because of stupidity. Lets have some sympathy and prayers for these families whose students wont be graduating tomorrow instead they will be burying thier children. My thoughts and prayers go out to those families....

G.C wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:17 AM:Alcohol has always been and always will be our number ONE killer in traffic fatalities whether you are a minor or 99 years old. How about staying away from alcohol all together...

CeCe wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:19 AM:The school DID provide BUS transporation for this Senior Trip, but those 4 boys were the type that wanted to break the "rules" and go on their own! According to the school, these boys that drove would have not been allowed to attend the activities; cause they were told to RIDE the BUS! The fault only falls on the 4 boys, and no one else! Doesn't matter who provided the alcohol to them, it was all on them. They weren't small children who needed to be told what's right & wrong. They were young adults that knew the consequences of drinking & driving or riding in a vehicle that had individuals consuming alcohol! I think that the families are the ones that are paying the bigger price of these boys, but these boys got what they got cause of their stupid actions! Now all we can say to others is: don't be like these guys!!!

High Risk High School Days wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:36 AM:Some of my high school friends used to do some pretty risky stuff, such as riding motorcycles in the rain while on acid. They are lucky that they did not die. My point is that high school age kids do some pretty crazy stuff involving vehicles and being hopped up. It truly is like rolling the dice. Unfortunately, these four guys paid the ultimate price for living in the High School Fast Lane. Please remember this when you are partying this summer. Too bad we can't proclaim, with sincerity, that "chicks dig designated drivers."

lisa wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:38 AM:i think all of it sucks!!!!!i am 24 years old with 3 kids i had my fun too an may have been dumb back in my day also but 4 boys did not need to lose there lifes!!! not fare regarless wo bought it or not but who ever did i hope it haunts you for the rest of your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mother of Teen Son wrote on Jun 1, 2007 12:06 PM:My heart goes out to the families during this trying time! My son was involved in an accident where one of his best friends, who was the driver, was killed. We just pray that other teenagers learn from these tragdies. God be with the boys and their families and hopefully you will be able to appreciate the time you had with them.

Steve I wrote on Jun 1, 2007 1:04 PM:How did they even get to drive on a school outing? Does the school have a large liability insurance policy?

Mahalia wrote on Jun 1, 2007 1:26 PM:Right on, Reverend Lovejoy! Amen! AMEN!

Just a thought.... wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:01 PM:It is just so sad that everyone does choose to point fingers at everyone else because a loss of 4 people occurred. The only finger(s) to be pointed should be at the people in that car, not anywhere else. They chose to drive there, they chose to drive under the influence (if that occurred), they chose to not be safe, they chose to take a risk and race someone...Funny that no one thinks about the fact that God decided to bring us into this world, and he decides to take us out too. Maybe they were never meant to live past 17 - 18, maybe they came and did what they needed, and that was their exit...No one thinks of that, everyone wants to blame someone else...Last but not least, "THEY CHOSE TO DO IT, AND HE UP STAIRS CHOSE TO TAKE THEM OUT"! At least they are all together, wondering "why they made that decision"....I drove by the scene on the frontage road, and thought how sad, but ...

Jeremee wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:48 PM:You people need to pipe down on finger-pointing. It's the schools fault, it's caltrans fault, and the even more ridiculous finger-pointing is against the person that supplied the alcohol to the minors. Spare me the finger-pointing. You north county folks think lawsuits, warrants, investigations is going to resolve what happened? Well you're wrong. The unfortunate bottom line to this story is these "boys" learned their lesson way too young in life. Spare me the finger-pointing. Accountability schamountability. ...

Sarah From PERRIS! wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:10 PM:My brother almost got into the car with these boys and he would have been dead too so instead of pointing fingers and saying how stupid one person is to another, pray for the families of thes kids and just try to tell your kids to not do stupid things. Racing is dangerous and drinking and driving is too but there are victims not only the deceased but the fam and friends of them cause they are in mourning right now. It could have been one of my little brothers and i thank God that it wasnt them because I dont know what I would have done if it were. We should all be thankful for what we have as it could just dissapear in a instant!

So Sad wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:17 PM:My heart and prayers go out to the family and friends of these 4 boys. May God be with you during this very difficult time - I cannot even imagine the pain you must be feeling. My sympathy to all who knew these boys. I just want the families to know that you are in my prayers. Also, 'the pain will never go away, but you will find a different way to hold it' - a friend told me this 12 years ago when my husband died in a car accident due to his drinking and driving - today I have found this to be true. May God bless you all!

I TOO wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:34 PM:Now I am old, but when I was young I too drove recklessly. I too could have had such an accident. Somehow the age from teen to about 25 or so for males is frought with such troubles. My condolences to the families and friends of those boys. This blog will not be read by any of them, but my thoughts are with them. God bless.

DeeCee wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:37 PM:The posts here aren't finger pointing....there's neon red lights all over the place. The school with a large liability insurance policy? I would think the school has their 'back side' covered with permission slips and release forms simply because of this type of thing. These boys may have had the intention of just 'showing up' and not letting teachers know they were going because they would have been stopped from driving their own vehicle. Doesn't seem like the school can do much about it if someone is going to say they aren't attending and then all of a sudden show up in their own vehicle.

Choices wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:42 PM:Every year we see these tragic accidents, and they truley are horror stories. When my daughter attended prom in San Diego, I was pretty sure drinking would be involved, if not by her, by others that would then be set loose on the freeways back to Oceanside. My answer, I got her off the freeways, several of us got together and paid for a hotel room close to the Prom site, no driving, just a little walk. Underage drinking and these end of year celebrations go hand in hand, and while I would never purchase alcohol for underaged kids, the reality is they will get it from somewhere. My younger sister was killed by a drag racer many years ago, I know the risk is there. The $100 hotel was well worth her safety. Open communication with our children about how they plan to celebrate these occasions could maybe help them do it responsibly. As graduation approaches for so many schools, maybe we should be tucking cab money into their pockets, or organizing all night designated driver programs. I don't encourage underage drinking, but it is a reality that needs to be addressed. The "Just say no" approach has about as much success as teaching abstinence in sex ed. The results are disasterous!

A TIME OF MOURNING wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:48 PM:Let's not be judgmental. Yes, lessons can and should be learned from this and many other similar tragedies. But during this time of mourning, please be respectful of the families of these boys and refrain from being judgmental. I pray for these families and for the peaceful repose of those boys. They are now with God.

Someones mother wrote on Jun 1, 2007 3:51 PM:My heart 2 the parents that were going to graduation now going to funerals Hold on to your kids parents we arent guaranteed anything

A friend of the 4 boys wrote on Jun 1, 2007 4:14 PM:Many mistakes were made...yes! But there is no one to blame! blaming others is not going to make anything better! Yes the 4 boys made bad decisions but everyone comes to meet them! It just so happened to be that they'er decisions ended up fatal! Its sad to loose them....i knew them....but it was their time and I'm slowly accepting that! Its hard to accept the fact that I will never see them again but I know that they are in a better place now and now they can watch over us! -a friend of Paul,Jose,Cash,& Javi

A friend of the 4 boys wrote on Jun 1, 2007 4:16 PM:I pray 4 all the families that lost a loved one in the accident!

Horrified wrote on Jun 1, 2007 4:31 PM:I am just ill over this, I too have a 17 year old son who drives. I don't care what the circumstance is right now, can any of you even imagine the horror these boys felt when they lost controll? Not only screaming for God you know they were screaming for mom or dad!!! The parents of these boys' are inconsolable right now, they are barely able to think or live. As far as we know none of these families will ever get over this,only time will tell. This accident has hit the whole Riverside County aera, my thoughts and prayers to Perris High and the families God Bless all of you.

Pappy wrote on Jun 1, 2007 6:35 PM:Nice try for a little drama Horrified. At those speeds and in their fun frame of mind this was over before they had any time to realized there was anything worth screaming about. I've totaled 5 cars myself and I always had a feeling of amazement and wonder at what I'd gotten myself into, never fear or screaming out to anybody. And yes, on two of these occasions I thought I was going to die while sliding completely out of control. Still, it was always over too fast for any morbid horror thoughts like you're trying to create here. Shame on you.

To the Perris High Grads wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:59 PM:I'm sorry for all you kids who worked hard to get your diplomas that your big day has been saddened by the tragedy of losing four of your classmates. Carry those guys in your hearts and please think real hard about the choices you make as you venture forth. Blessings to every one of you and condolences to the families, the friends and teachers. And let's not forget the first responders and hospital staff who also will never forget.

Mike wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:25 PM:My prayers go out to the families, friends, schoolmates, teachers, and loved ones of these young men. God Bless them, and may you all find peace in remembering the love and joy these four young people brought to all of you. It is their lasting legacy. Mike, San Jose

To Pappy wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:41 PM:You totaled 5 cars AND you come on-line and admit that? Talk about someone who shouldn't be on the road....

Teacher from Temescal HS wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:24 PM:If I were queen for the day, I would have all beer cans barcoded. Then the stores would have to swipe the codes to receive and sell the beer. At the time of purchase the barcode and sale time would be recorded to a national database. Then when a police officer needed to check on a particular can's origin all he or she would need to do is to swipe the can. Bingo, it was sold at such and such a time, from such and such a store. Perhaps the store would defend themselves with their survelance footage. We could then see who actually bought the alcohol. If it was the parents for their own use, if it was a "buyer", or if it was the kids themselves. This system would definitely cut back on stores selling to minors. If anyone knows a senator, this would make a great bill. My heart goes out to the families, teachers, and friends of these boys. I worry for my own children and students. One more thing. When I told my husband about this, he said at his ... store they have a new lo-jack that once installed in the car allows the owner to go on-line at any time and see the location of the car. It also will send an alert to the owner (I think he said by cell phone) whenever the car is speeding. I don't know how other parents feel about this, but my husband and I will have this system on every one of our cars when our children start driving. ...

People, People, People!!! Pleezzzzz... wrote on Jun 2, 2007 1:04 AM:This is by far a tragedy, however, when a young person wants to make the types of decisions that these "young men" made, it becomes more than just a tragedy, it then becomes a broken heart for everyone who has ever known any of them. At this young age, they are not thinking of consequences no matter how many times they are told of them, all that is being thought of at that point is the "partying" & "showing off" to others, the "look at us- we're so cool...we've flying high"... no matter how many times these young men have been told, either by their parents or others that loved & cared about them, about the dangers of living life in the fast lane- doing drugs, drinking alcohol, drag racing, unprotected sex- whatever it may have been, they are your typical teen who feels invicible to tragedy..."I know what I'm doing, I'm in control" after all, haven't we all been there & done that too, perhaps we were all just lucky enough that someone up above was watching over us to help protect us & not make us another statistic like these young men have just became themselves...their hopes & dreams of becoming someone in their life, shattered by the fact that they chose to indulge in the types of things that one should do when they have become mature enough to make the correct decision as to not drink & drive nor drag race on the freeways...just be thankful that no more lives than these four were taken due to such bad judgements on their behalf. My heart goes out to all of these families, I hope & pray that you will be able to find peace & solitude within your hearts, afterall, they all were just young men trying to grow up way too fast...If any of their friends can learn from their tragedy, then their lives were not taken in vain...may the school use this sad tragedy as a symbol of what not to do to make your graduation a memorable one...RIP to each & every one you young men...may your story live on in the hearts & minds of those that you have left behind...

TO JEREMEE wrote on Jun 2, 2007 6:09 AM:An adult found supplying alcohol to the teens faces six months to a year in prison, a maximum $1,000 fine or both, Carr said. If a business is found to have sold alcohol to the minors, it could face a fine or revocation of its license. http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/06/02/news/inland/escondido/23_46_076_1_07.txt

Dee Dee wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:07 AM:"Please God, I am only 17" Does anyone remember that story? It appeared every year in Dear Abby just about the time of graduation. The MADD Every 15 Minutes presentation is a wonderful program, however, it only seems to impact the adults who see it. At 17 you are invincible. My husband and his buddies all Medicare age are surprised they are still alive after reminising about their youth and their antics. My condolences to the families. Their sons gambled and lost.

Linda wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:13 AM:I worked with one of the fathers of one of the teens that were killed. This is a good man that loved his son and that set a good example for him. You cannot explain youth, when young you think things only happen to other people. They were not stupid boys, they were young and not thinking, they threw caution to the wind for a brief moment.These families need our prayers not judgemental comments. Their lives will never be the same, the loss of a love one leaves a hole in your heart as big as the moon. God Bless all these boys family and friends and especially you Scrappy.

Pappy wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:48 AM:Teacher, you're a bit behind the times and off topic. These databases already exist and are growing. I'm drinking a can of coke right now. If I throw it out my car window an officer if so inclined could pick up the can, enter the code stamped on the bottom of the can, find the store, date and time it was bought and review the video tapes and see me purchasing it. If I'd paid with some kind of plastic they wouldn't even have to do that, they would have my name and address and just send me a littering ticket. That day is coming. If I were to threaten anybody in this or any online message the police would be at my door in no time. "Pappy" and "Teacher" may seem anonymous but they aren't. If the NCTs wanted to find me, you or anybody else they could find us with a couple of clicks. Our IP address go out with every message we send. This is like a barcode to your personal information. Barcodes are old technology. If you really want to see your big-brother utopia at work browse for RFID and read about it. Chances are you have these implanted in the food in your kitchen, somewhere in your car, your bedroom and even the clothes you're wearing right now. The Beast has arrived, we just don't see it yet... and he's thriving on your fear.

life is to precious wrote on Jun 2, 2007 2:55 PM:high school students love to break rules. theyre going to make bad choices. unfortunately these four young men made a decision to break the rules and lost their lives. they would be graduating right now. i will be graduating in two weeks, and when i do i will remember them even though i never knew them. i recently participated in the MADD Every 15 Minutes Program, as I did last year. it is a wonderful program, one of the only ways to reach high school students and perhaps influence their choices. my generation has grown up in a society of selfishness and foolishness, i know of far too many teens who have recently passed because of decisions they made. for future generations we have to change what's "cool". drinking and driving isnt cool. it kills people, ruins peoples lives. these young men and their mourners are in my prayers. we have to find inspiration in tragedies like this one to make the right decisions.

to quickly gone wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:06 PM:high school students love to break rules. theyre going to make bad choices. unfortunately these four young men made a decision to break the rules and lost their lives. they would be graduating right now. i will be graduating in two weeks, and when i do i will remember them even though i never knew them. i recently participated in the MADD Every 15 Minutes Program, as I did last year. it is a wonderful program, one of the only ways to reach high school students and perhaps influence their choices. my generation has grown up in a society of selfishness and foolishness, i know of far too many teens who have recently passed because of decisions they made. for future generations we have to change what's "cool". drinking and driving isnt cool. it kills people, ruins peoples lives. these young men and their mourners are in my prayers. we have to find inspiration in tragedies like this one to make the right decisions.

realizing to late wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:08 PM:high school students love to break rules. theyre going to make bad choices. unfortunately these four young men made a decision to break the rules and lost their lives. they would be graduating right now. i will be graduating in two weeks, and when i do i will remember them even though i never knew them. i have participated in the MADD Every 15 Minutes Program. it is one of the only ways to reach high school students and perhaps influence their choices. i know of far too many teens who have recently passed because of bad choices theyve made. for future generations we have to change what's "cool". drinking and driving isnt cool. it kills people, ruins peoples lives. these young men and their mourners are in my prayers. we have to find inspiration in tragedies like this one to make the right decisions.

Mirta wrote on Jun 2, 2007 9:02 PM:My condolences to the families and friends of the four boys who tragically lost their lives. But let us remember that their death has sent us a clear message to about the dangerous combination of the "need for speed and alcohol". Let us pay tribute to their memory by being more actively involved with our youth and the activities that have the potential for this outcome. Let us pray and unite!

Sally wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:04 PM:When the boys drove past the bus full of kids waving beer cans, why didn't the bus driver or one of the students take some action and use their cell phones to call the police...a DUI would be much better than losing your life....

mother of 1 wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:19 PM:To often we walk around like nothing will ever touch us. We think that nothing bad can ever happen it's just something you hear about. What happened to these 4 men is a tragedy. My heart goes out to there loved ones. I couldn't imagine losing my child. It's things like this that we have to take as life lessons and hope someone is paying attention and hello kids it could happen to you.

joe wrote on Jun 6, 2007 4:18 PM:These teens may have had open containers of alcohol and this is against the law. Until the tox results are in, it is unknown if the driver was drinking , or even intoxicated. Was alcohol a true factor in this acci dent? It's Still unknown. These were average teens. Teens as with all humans make bad decisions. Even the good ones. Parents are always surprised in these situations. Parents beware. Maybe all parents with teens that drive need to invest in a breathalizer ignition switch in there cars reguardless of there suspicions. Not a perfect solution, but may be a deterant.

Laura S. wrote on Jun 8, 2007 4:36 PM:everyone here needs to stop running there mouth about what happend!it did happen and they were drinking but it could have happend to anybody. All four of them were good people who could make you laugh and have a good time.All of you need to stop judging them for what they did because deep down they were good people and did not deserve what happend to them.May all four of them rest in peace

Rachel R. wrote on Jun 9, 2007 9:29 AM:oh my gosh im so sorry to wat happened to these boys dammit i hate seein storys like this i hope dat pple would stop drinkin n driving but they shouldnt have gone!!

Sad Friend wrote on Jun 12, 2007 11:01 AM:Never before has the city of Perris been so silent..... It was suppose to be the happiest time of our year, everything was so perfect!!!! Now everything is so quiet, sad and lonely without them... =...-(..... Silky, Paul, Cash, Javier U will always be loved by this town.... We Love u and obviously U have paid 4 ur mistakes.... But it didnt have to be like this!!!! I just wish everything could be different........

Sharon /NC wrote on Jun 12, 2007 11:08 AM:I just lost my nephew Zac here in NC on Memorial Day weekend-he and 3 of his friends died instantly in a horrific crash which split the vehicle in half. The driver and 2 of the boys were thrown from the car-the force so incredible it tore their seatbelts. My nephew remained strapped in the back-dead from a broken neck and other numerous injuries. 4 lives gone. And alcohol is a factor in this accident as well. The investigation is ongoing to see who provided these young men with the alcohol. 2 were 18 including my nephew, one 19 and one just turned 20. Our lives are scarred, our finances devastated as my brother had no life insurance on his son, and now 4 precious sweet young men are gone-because they made poor choices as we all have in our past. God bless all the families in this tragedy and the Perris High one, our prayers are that God would see you through these darkest hours. God is the answer!

Keith wrote on Jun 12, 2007 9:59 PM:As an 18 year old male i think that this is a very tragic accident that we can learn from. I also think that the person that purchased the alcohol should be liable for this incident. AN yea people can say that it was the four young men fault but everyone has been peer pressured 2 drink although im sure the driver never had a thought of crashing and yes some of the blame has to be put on the driver we have to remember that four people just died at the most four young people this is still sad and it shows you just how short life can be..... With that being said i never met the families of these young men but i will keep these families in my prayers and i will remember this an d learn from it....

John R.i.p. Javier wrote on Jun 21, 2007 11:52 PM:R.I.P. JAVIER. MAN ITS HARD TO BELIEVE UR GONE HOMIE...DAMN I GOTTA ADIMT IVE BEEN CRYIN SINCE U LEFT.IT HARD.WELL HOMIE WELL SEE EACH OTHER ONE OF DIZZ DAY LUV U JAVI....

Pepe wrote on Jun 25, 2007 5:18 PM:I still can't believe this happened to you Junior aka "Silky". I miss you homie. May you rest in everlasting peace. I'll see you when I get there.

connie wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:30 PM:R.I.P Anthony aka cash. I love you so much baby. Watch over me. I know your waiting for me on the other side of forever

breanna wrote on Sep 12, 2007 7:41 PM:i feel sorry for them hope never happens again

RIP BOYS wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:33 PM:ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHO TO BLAME HERE, BUT IN ALL REALITY, THE PARENTS AND FAMILIES ARE THE ONES IN AGONY! NOT ONE OF YOU PARENTS SHOULD SAY YOU WOULD NEVER LET YOUR CHILDREN DO THIS OR GO ON A CERTAIN TRIP! YOU LOOK AND SOUND VERY VERY IGNORANT! TRUST ME, YOUR CHILDREN DO THINGS YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT, THEY ARE JUST LUCKY ENOUGH NOT TO HAVE GOTTEN CAUGHT OR EVEN SUFFER MAJOR CONSEQUENCES SUCH AS THIS TRAGIC AND PAINFUL ONE! RIP BOYS AND MAY THEIR FAMILIES BE BLESSED WITH COMFORT AT THIS TRAGIC TIME!-

andrea wrote on Oct 12, 2007 9:18 PM:i miss you sikly and i will see you in heaven.

nikki wrote on Nov 9, 2007 1:48 PM:the death of these four seniors from our school was tragic...it still haunts me to this day..teens just dont realize how serious life is and how easy it is to lose it...i miss them.

PAUL wrote on Dec 15, 2007 10:56 PM:PAUL WE MISS U ALL SO MUCH YOUR MOM DONT NO WHAT TO DO WITH OUT YOU PEOPLE KEEP SAYING WELL THATS THERE FAULT THAT YOU GUYS GOT IN THAT CRASH THEY NO NOTHING IT WAS JUST TIME FOR YOU TO GO TO HEAVEN WE MISS YOU LOVE ZACARIAS FAMILY

Ashley wrote on Feb 24, 2008 11:24 AM:Paul and Cash(Anthony) were two of my good friends, it was so hard when Pauls aunt told me that he had passed away that day...i cried for weeks. I miss them soo much and i know that these families are suffering, please pray for them.

stetson coners wrote on Jul 22, 2008 7:35 PM:ay bro javi was not drunk dudes they just got hit by a car this cars tire poped and swirved and hit javi's car bro and totaly took him of the road man it was really scarry man, and javi was not high neither bro