Letters to the Editor - 6/3/2007

By: Readers of the North County Times and Californian - | Monday, June 4, 2007 11:25 AM PDT

Transfer of principal hurts school

I call on the board and superintendent (of the Lake Elsinore Unified School District) to recognize that the decision to transfer Principal Craig Richter has personal implications for the parents, staff and students at Ronald Reagan Elementary ("District shuffles principals," May 18).

I am not protesting out of concern for Craig Richter's placement or future, even though I respect and admire him as a person. I am asking the district to reconsider its decision because many dedicated individuals have committed a great deal of time and effort over a three-year period (before the school even opened) and are now confronted with watching efforts go for nought without having had sufficient time to fairly assess whether test scores or any other measure of student achievement can validate what is being done at this unique school.

Ronald Reagan said, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected and handed on for them to do the same."

Debbie Callahan

Wildomar

Fences will be good for Lake Elsinore

I believe the fences will bring about a sense of boundaries to not only the lake but the city ("Council praises budget," May 30).

Lake Elsinore needs to be more boundary defined. The city is a little too scattered and lacks a sense of structure that Murrieta and Temecula have. I live in the Canyon Hills area of Lake Elsinore and believe that structure and boundaries has helped my community not only succeed commercially but also in safety aspects. Fences bring about the sense of a well-defined community. Hopefully the fences that would be installed along the beaches of Elsinore are nice looking.

While on the topic of the lake, does anyone happen to know when they will finish the new homes that are being developed alongside the lake near the stadium? I'm glad new homes are finally being brought around the lake it will make the lake a much more beautiful place to live.

Living close to water should be luxurious. The majority of the homes currently around our lake are anything but that. Look at Mission Viejo Lake. It's gorgeous and the homes around it are simply beautiful. Having a gorgeous lake community will attract tourism, which is what Elsinore needs, because our city truly has the potential for it.

Seabrook Mendoza

Lake Elsinore

County control no longer good enough

Martha Bridges (Letters, May 25), writes of concern regarding comments from Wildomar Incorporation Now (WIN) members Bob Cashman, Sheryl Ade and Bridgette Moore. They speak of the reality of county governance vs. the potential for local control.

Ms. Bridges' mention of a community divided is in large measure the result of decisions made at the county level. The county's vision is no longer responsive to local needs as it once was. Population increase and demand to serve diverse needs of the district has compromised its effectiveness.

Concern for infrastructure is a result of county direction. Ask county Code Enforcement to address an issue in your neighborhood. It will require diligence, patience and a tolerance for frustration.

The second fire station was not missed. That announcement from Riverside County Fire came after the fiscal report was submitted to Local Agency Formation Commission (LAFCO). By unanimous vote the Board of Supervisors expressed their intent to resolve the impact. LAFCO feels that it cannot be considered.

Gerard Ste. Marie has deposited $25,000 with the state controller to determine the appropriateness of the offer. Mr. Ste. Marie may well receive a result opposite of his personal intent.

Cityhood will not be a panacea. There will be challenges. There will be opportunity for direct input into the direction our community will head. If the result of that direction is something disagreed with there will be responsive recourse blocks from your door. That is no longer the case with 4080 Lemon St., Riverside.

Wesley Lobo

Wildomar

Internet empowers consumers

So many people don't like the way the country is going and feel like their hands are tied and can't do a thing about it. Well, guess what ---- you can do something about it!

Today we have the most powerful tool in the world, and don't have to leave home to use it. It's called the Internet! You can e-mail your congressman or even the president and let them know how you feel about the new immigration law. Also remind them you will remember their names! You can use this tool right from home.

Everyone can use this tool. Age or handicap don't matter. Now you too can speak up. All you got to do is use it with the proper Web site and the people's desire to put control of the price of items sold in this country (gas) back in the hands of the consumers! But only if all the people unite. That's where the Internet comes in. It can reach all the people without being edited. The choice is ours!

Felix Gonzales

Sun City

Triangle ideal hospital site

For years, the Murrieta Planning Commission and the City Council have been looking for the best use of the "Golden Triangle," a piece of land between Murrieta Hot Springs Road and the 15 and 215 freeways. The Golden Triangle area is an ideal place to build a new fully accredited hospital. It has freeway access on both sides along with street access. Is not close to any business or houses.

With the people of the south Temecula area objecting to the one being built in their neighborhood, the Golden Triangle would be an ideal place.

Bill Charles

Murrieta

Scooters fit right in in Las Vegas

I suppose in some ways the city of Las Vegas, founded on overindulgence, would be among the first to realize the use of scooters for otherwise able-bodied individuals ("Tourists taken for ride on Strip," May 25). Having traveled there on many occasions, I found it invigorating to walk between casinos, and have even bicycled The Strip at times. What better place to burn off the effects of those buffet lines?

It seems those who are legitimately disabled are the true losers in all this, though. Can you imagine a day when a person rolls their wheelchair to the front of the line, only to be told that the young drunk guy ahead of him just rented the last scooter?!

Edward Sibby

Temecula

How global warming works

Perhaps we're familiar with smog, and we think of pollution as a noxious chemical stew or a hot exhaust spew. A certain political wing reads their subliminally wrong ideas into global warming reports, and reduces science to their simple notions and words. The naysayers create basic fallacies and wild exaggerations, echoed incessantly.

The global warming theory states that the increased CO2 retains heat (physics), not makes heat (chemistry). The heat can be man-made, or extraterrestrial sunspot activity, it doesn't matter -- we can't get rid of it! The past ice ages and warming periods are actually a confirmation of the correlation of CO2 and temperature. The fact that CO2 is natural doesn't lessen the fact that we're flooding our atmosphere. That the molecule CO2 is in itself nontoxic is meaningless. Water is natural and nontoxic, but too much is called a flood, and we do something about it. The physics can be demonstrated: Park a black car, windows up, in the sun. The paint will be too hot to touch, yet the interior will be hotter than the enclosed black trunk. The glass retains the thermal heat energy wavelengths, trapping them inside. Global warming is a very real problem.

Richard Crews

Encinitas

Voice your opposition to the airport

Wake up, Oceansiders, and stop our City Council's plan to keep the airport open and even expand it. The council has failed to show any financial or other significant benefits to the city, and the airport is environmentally bad due to the danger, pollution and noise. Great financial gain would occur if the general area was developed, and the people in the northwest quadrant of the city would benefit greatly.

The airport is only a playground for a few handfuls of pilots, and their backers have spent thousands of dollars to sway council members to keep the airport open. The proponents have lied, saying the airport is a national asset but have provided no substantiation. They lied also saying the vast majority of residents want the airport. Balderdash. Ask yourself, how do you benefit?

The council is jeopardizing public safety by having an airport in a populated area. The low-flying planes jeopardize lives daily by flying low over areas such as Rancho Hermosa and Oceana. Please, residents, voice your objections in the press and to our council.

Bob Sheard

Oceanside

NAFTA reflects freedom

Doug Bell writes (Letters, May 25) contra NAFTA with passion, hate and lack of facts. Bell states that "thousands of American businesses" have abandoned the U.S. for Mexico, taking with them $17-an-hour jobs. Poppycock! Actually, the number is hundreds, not thousands, and "lost" jobs thousands, not millions. Officially, each job lost to Mexico or Canada is accounted for, and special training funds are available to retrain those involved. About 50,000 jobs a year have been so lost to NAFTA and retraining offered to many, who turned it down because they had comparable or better new jobs. Concurrently, for every job lost, 30 or more jobs were created in the United States. ...

Mr. Bell declares that NAFTA is a failure because Mexicans still come here to work. They have been coming here to work since 1848, almost 150 years before NAFTA. ... Lamenting the voluntary departure of any privately owned business reflects fascist tendencies. In a fascist society, companies remain in private hands, but the government tells the companies what to do and when to do it, including moving or not moving. Free enterprise is pretty much the opposite. Bell reflects a fascist mind-set that we free-marketers reject, for we expect freedom, not some bureaucrat like Bell telling us what to do.

Raoul Lowery Contreras

Del Mar Heights

Immigration bill fatally flawed

Shame on the sponsors of the Senate immigration bill for trying to ramrod its passage without discussion and any cost estimate. George Will ("Immigration deal fatally flawed," May 27) states that Americans are skeptical about the proposed legislation and have concluded that the federal government can't be trusted to enforce the proposals.

Many citizens feel that several Senate bill proponents are under the influence of companies that want a cheap labor supply. The Heritage Foundation reports that more than $2.5 trillion in entitlements would result if 10 million illegals are given amnesty. Our Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are already on shaky ground. Furthermore, some items should be included in any compromise bill but are missing in this one. For example, this country is losing foreign-born Ph.D. recipients in this year's graduating classes of scientists (Tom Friedman, "Exporting our educated," May 24). Especially pertinent is the fact that our own advanced science students are so few. Why can't the Senate pass a bill that would allow highly skilled, motivated foreign students to become U.S. citizens if they so desire?

Jack Pomeroy

Escondido

How long must we wait for enforcement?

President Bush asked for forbearance in combating illegal immigration. He asked us to give the government a chance. The Simpson-Mazzoli Reform Act of 1986 dictated closing the border and enforcing employer sanctions for employing illegals. The government has had 7,490 days to do that, and could have done it on any of those 7,490 days.

President Bush has been in charge for 2,321 days of those days. Can President Bush tell us how long we should give government to enforce existing law, and how long it will take to enforce a new law? I know government is inefficient, but ...

Allen Hemphill

Escondido

Mexican hypocrites

With all of the immigration hoopla going on here, with the Mexican consulate and other followers voicing concern, demanding that we change our immigration laws to suit them, open our borders and be more compassionate, I find it interesting that in the May 28 San Diego Union-Tribune paper, "Man dies in migrant sweep in Mexico," that these same people would demand us to change our immigration laws.

It is incredible also how they booed Miss America for the Miss Universe pageant. Why is that? They, the Mexican government, do not care about us and want us to bend over backward to accommodate illegal immigrants but yet they themselves deny hardworking people into their country. How about taking care of your country first before you constantly push us in how to run ours?

Howard Brenner

Poway

Liberal values on display

Paul Cavanaugh (Letters, May 30) got off to a great start citing liberal values (equality, public safety nets and lack of greed) but stopped short. Also, most unfortunate, was Paul's confusion of "classical liberalism," which granted citizens individual rights and responsibilities, with "contemporary liberalism," which removes individual responsibility and promotes mediocrity.

Paul generously touts the "dignified life" provided by liberals. Of course, it is easy to be generous with other people's money. Conservatives are not opposed to helping people who need a hand up (and more comprehensive assistance for the elderly and disabled). Most oppose assisting people to become continuously dependent on government largesse through handouts. All the money in the budget would not cure the ills of our public school system.

In the last 40 years, we have seen an erosion of society with liberal moral relativism. The exponential rise of illegitimacy, the early sexualization of young girls, the acceptance of vulgar language in everyday parlance, the quest of liberals to understand an enemy that is like no other we have faced and advocacy for the intrinsic evil of abortion are liberal values. Maybe Cavanaugh forgot to mention these ññ probably due to space constraints.

Alexandra Cloney

Carlsbad

Impeachment is the only solution

George Bush has employed over 1,200 signing statements in order to place himself beyond the law. This is but one of his many offenses for which impeachment has been recommended by the framers of our Constitution. Unfortunately, the spineless Democratic Party leadership has taken impeachment off the table, lest it be accused (by Republicans) of dividing the nation and diverting it from the main goal of ending the Iraq war. This is circular reasoning, since many of Bush's impeachable offenses are directly related to this war.

For his administration, 9/11 was not a disaster, it was an opportunity for grabbing power, and they leaped at it. Bush single-handedly escalated our response into a global, never-ending war on terror, having called it a crusade in a moment of candor. Now, he has established himself as the "commander guy," with kingly powers to break any law he chooses, as long as this war is ongoing. He asserts that, as chief in the war on terror, he has the unitary executive authority to ignore any act of Congress.

Impeachment is the only solution. All Democrats should withhold financial contributions to any party candidate until Speaker Pelosi places it back on the table.

Sorab Ghandhi

Escondido

A slightly entertaining Thornhill

The "Thornhill's View" cartoon on May 17 is the first one I have ever found even slightly entertaining. However, I find it most interesting and revealing that conspicuously absent among the dancers is the radical right-winger Christopher Hitchens.

Michael Deegan

San Marcos

Kool-Aid drinkers

Judging from the number of letters over the last couple of weeks, it appears the Kool-Aid drinkers have finally realized that if they impeached President Bush, Vice President Cheney would become president. So now we have letters from the usual suspects calling for the impeachment of the vice president. None of the writers ever states what the specific high crimes and misdemeanors are to warrant impeachment; that portion of their letters is usually full of gibberish or generalities.

My guess is that if they were to get their wish they'll go after President Bush next. Just what we need, President Pelosi. One writer appears to have run off the reservation and now wants Attorney General Gonzales impeached as well. Never mind that no laws were broken, just impeach him for stupidity. Keep those letters coming; they are more entertaining than the Comics pages.

Dan Shapiro

Oceanside

Candidates are slaves to big money

On the front page of The New York Times on Memorial Day was a major article about fundraising by presidential candidates. The campaign is already in full gallop, nearly one and a half years before the next president is elected, because the candidates are slaves to money and must raise many millions of dollars to compete. Much of this money comes from wealthy private donors and from corporations, including those of the industrial-military complex. Kenneth Lay and Enron, for example, were President Bush's largest donors in 2000.

The Republican Party traditionally is the party of big money, but the Democratic Party is more and more enslaved to big corporate dollars. The Democratic Party, however, still has a heart that beats faintly, but it can no longer claim rationally to represent the poor, children or labor; nor can it claim to support first-class public education, affordable health care, or a rational foreign policy.

The news media, as the face of big money, shirk their constitutional authority to inform the public. We know too little, for example, about 9/11/01 and the elections of 2000 in Florida and 2004 in Ohio. An informed public would not have tolerated a war in Iraq, and would not have re-elected Bush.

Harold Weber

Oceanside

This land of California

Today there are thousands of Mexicans living in California. No matter where you look, you see men, women and their children, living, working and going to school. Each day the number of Latinos is growing with no end in sight. Most newspapers, TV or radio are fed up with this situation and complaining about this unbearable condition.

From the day that the U.S. took California from Mexico by force of arm, nothing has changed. The land is still full of Mexicans. Since nothing else is working, I suggest it is time that the U.S. should give back California and this entire problem to Mexico. Let them worry about it and do what they want to do here.

The rest of us who do not want to live with the Mexicans, gather our things and move to Alaska. This is the land that belongs to us; we paid for it in cash. And I hope nobody will bother us there anymore.

Ata Agah

Escondido

Community supports VHS athletic training

As the athletic trainer at Vista High School, I would like to give special recognition to my medical team: Thomas Balcom, M.D., U.S. Navy; Charles Lewis, P.T., Tri-City Physical Therapy; and Kyle Tetz, D.C., Cottrell Chiropractic. These medical professionals volunteer countless hours to our athletic program.

I would also like to commend the following community members for their time and expertise performing preseason physical exams The following medical professionals give generously of their personal time: Kevin Seufert, M.D., Cassidy Medical; Andrew Cooperman, M.D., Orthopaedic Surgery; Ron Cottrell, D.C., Cottrell Chiropractic; Channel Calhoun, M.D., director of pediatrics, North County Health Services; Jeffrey Pearson, D.O., Medicine-in-Motion; Dennis Smith, P.T., and Kim Brummett, P.T., Tri-City Physical Therapy; Maria O#'Neal, P.T., and Monica Schupt, P.T., Rancho Physical Therapy; Patty Hoffman, L.V.N., Roosevelt Middle School; Brian DeClerk, D.C., and Phil Dixon, D.C., Ocean Vista Chiropractic.

Vista High School appreciates their participation in these fundraising events for the athletic training program.

Michelle Hamilton

certified athletic trainer

Vista High School

His approach to illegal immigration

My approach to common sense in the illegal immigration problem is as follows: Illegals who can prove six or more years of continuous, crime-free residency should be allowed to apply now for U.S. citizenship. Those who refuse U.S. citizenship should be deported. Those with less than six years of crime-free residency should be deported but get some preferential treatment when applying for legal re-entry. U.S.-born children can return to their parents' home country with the deportee, or can remain in the U.S. with legal friends or family. Concurrently, the U.S./Mexico/Canada border must be secured ññ really secured. U.S. employers shall be fined a minimum of $10,000 U.S. for every illegal they are found to be employing/harboring. Documentation will be scrutinized by federal authorities before employment. A sound guest worker program (federally run) must be implemented, allowing foreign workers to sign up with licensed contractors to provide a temporary workforce in the U.S. for agricultural/landscaping duties. ...

It's not a perfect formula, but it is a common-sense start toward a permanent solution. So far, the politicians have not come up with anything better.

Robert Green

Fallbrook

I'm from the government; I'm here to help

Republicans like to claim they're on the side of small businesses. But what happens when a small meatpacking business wants to voluntarily test 100 percent of its premium quality beef for mad cow disease? Does the Agriculture Department applaud their entrepreneurial skill? Sadly, no. It sues them to stop, because it might impact the profits of the larger beef conglomerates. (See http://tinyurl.com/2dvcrd.) They'd rather protect the profits of Big Beef than the beef on your table.

Keep in mind, nobody was suggesting we force all of them to test even 1 percent of their beef, but just allow this one company to make a better product. If you're a CEO, you should probably vote Republican. It works for you.

Why anyone else would even consider voting for these crooks is beyond me. Less than 1 percent of beef is tested for mad cow? I guess it's chicken for dinner tonight.

Douglas Crews

Oceanside

Family values

Recently President Bush said that because of American family values, we should not deport a head of household even though he is an illegal. Using that same logic, we should not send a head of household to jail. Maybe Guantanamo?

Wayne Haggard

Fallbrook

The right has learned nothing

I'm saddened by how the extreme right is reacting to the Matthew Shepard Act, a bill that would add specifically violent hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation to an existing federal hate crimes law. The bill has a specific amendment that says it cannot be construed to censor free speech, yet the extreme right still spins the bill as a "thought-control bill." To those people I say: You know you're still allowed to spew the hate and propaganda that's driven gay and lesbian teen suicide rates far above the norm, so what are you complaining about? Unless it's a part of your faith to go violently abuse people ññ like what happened at last year's pride festival in Balboa Park ññ then your rights are not violated by this bill.

The extreme right's dishonesty around what the bill actually does demonstrates the same disdain for truth and integrity that got them thrown out of power last November. Apparently, they learned nothing.

Matthew Palm

Rancho Bernardo

Proper flag display on Memorial Day

Traveling down Escondido's Grand Avenue on Memorial Day weekend, admiring the American flags hung to honor our fallen heroes. It was a peaceful day, and the mood was somber. Then, bam, I was smashed in the eyes with a gaudy display of advertising, or was it advertising or a slap in the face joke on all of us? Two stores with a splashy display of nothing but French flags and banners. One was a bakery, and one was a relics store.

As if this was not bad enough, I turned the corner onto Kalmia and, again, a big display of nothing to honor the merit of our own heroes, this time, not seemingly on a commercial store, but on the sign advertising our own Patio Playhouse. I looked for an American flag among them but saw nada. Being an American with a French grandfather who was proud to be an American, I just wonder, if we were in France, and on one of their main holidays I displayed nothing but a garish display of only American flags, what would be their reaction? Of course, the two stores will find an excuse for their actions, but shame on you, Patio Playhouse!

James Nemish

Escondido

Cemeteries are eyesores

Memorial Day, my husband and I visited Eternal Hills to take flowers to my mom and dad's plots. We were appalled at the condition of many of the plots. Some were covered with weeds. If Eternal Hills wants to expand, they should take better care of what is there now. Most people had tools so they could clean up their plots.

Next, we went to the old cemetery on Coast Highway, where my husband's parents are interred. This cemetery should be a city monument to the people of Oceanside. Instead, much is an eyesore. Again, we saw people bringing tools to clean up family plots. This cemetery should be a part of Oceanside's past and made into a memorial site. Reading the old tombstones was so interesting, as so many of their families are still here today. Let's take care so our children can visit and know their heritage.

Norma Nares

Oceanside

Nothing wrong with flying Mexican flag

The sight of the Mexican flag flying over Petco Park is not of anyone's concern. That includes people like Susan Coker of Vista (Letters, May 10) and Brenda Souza of Oceanside (Letters, May 27). They both wrote respective letters to the North County Times on this issue. Ms. Coker stated that both the Mexican and U.S. flags were flying at the same level at Petco and that it was a slap in the face of the military people who were there watching the Padres game, whereas Ms. Souza stated that it was of the color green. Maybe she was trying to be sarcastic. But perhaps both of them must've read or heard about last year's protest by the Minutemen against the Mexican flag flying over the Del Mar fair, and foolishly claiming that it promotes illegal immigration.

I feel that there is nothing wrong with the Mexican flag flying over the fair, Petco, or any other venue in the county. Besides, many military people are of Mexican descent and are serving proudly. I also feel that they and Petco management do not need to listen to such nonsense because they have other things on their minds. Now I know that both letters are the real slap in the face.

Juan Blanco Jr.

Valley Center

Artists, kids can use your help

I'd like to start this letter off with an apology to Donna Davis. It seems I didn't place her proper title, leader of the Kiwanis of San Diego, in my May 14 letter and, it seems, according to a very close source, she is up at the crack of dawn feeding hundreds of hungry people. The world needs more like Donna Davis. Thanks once again.

The person I described as the schoolteacher at Kinko's who's helpful to just about everyone, he told me to let you know his name is Bob. Gloria Valdez, owner of the Metaphor on Second and Juniper, is providing music, and a number of artists, poets and musicians got their start with her because she gives them a break. Thursday night is Jazz and Art night. One of her waitresses, Jessica, is ... a phenomenal artist and may be featured in NAMI Beginnings: The Youth's Voice. Plus, she plays a dynamite piano, she has a positive attitude, and she hopes to own a business like the Metaphor one day real soon.

Now last, but certainly not least, is Tom Prothers from USMC Camp Pendleton. He's in public relations and helps distribute hundreds of newsletters each and every week to our wounded warriors, men and women who are artists and damaged-challenged who want to join the Auction for the Challenged. Help the children at the California Center for the Arts, Escondido.

Margery Sterling

Escondido

Cut and run was Reagan's choice

Hezbollah was organized in 1983 and, the following year, it showed its power by blowing up a Marine Corps barracks and the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon in simultaneous suicide bomb attacks that cost some 300 American lives. This happened during the presidency of Ronald Reagan, who had sent the Marines and government personnel between Christian and Muslim groups engaged in a civil war. Hezbollah decided to take them out. The difference between Lebanon and Iraq was the civil war was going on in Lebanon, and in Iraq, it started after they arrived.

After the massacre, Reagan withdrew the survivors in what is now termed "cut and run" and didn't send replacements into an untenable situation. Reagan was already showing symptoms of Alzheimer's and answering questions with "there they go again" until he was stopped from holding press conferences and was judging the character of visitors to the Oval Office by the way they ate jelly beans from a dish on his desk. Despite his mental condition, he had much more common sense than Dubya, the dummy on Cheney's knee.

Joseph Grant

Oceanside

Time to take our country back

Alfred E. Newman is alive and well and living in the White House. He doesn't realize how much harm he has caused this great country of ours. He lives in a world of fantasy. He doesn't have the brain power to lead the country; he's better suited to reading goat stories to 5-year-olds. How many years will it take to repair the damage he has done?

It's time to take our country back from Washington lobbyists and giant international corporations. It's difficult to buy anything that is made in America. All goods and services come to us from around the world, especially China.

It's also time to stop this insane war in Iraq and pull our military out of harm's way. This is an illegal war, justified by false pretenses. I served in the Army in World War II, a just and legal war.

Phil Saenz

Vista

Gore scrambles from reason

Harry Shearer, while interviewing Al Gore about his new book, "The Assault on Reason" ... raised this question: HS: Are we looking at, in the run-up to 9/11, a god-awful incompetence on a biblical scale, or are we looking at something else? AG: Well, let me knock down what I think you are suggesting with the "something else." HS: You think I'm implying a conspiracy? AG: I do not, for one moment, entertain that other hypothetical that you just spoke of. ...

I see Gore's response as a scramble away from reason. ... Here is just one issue from a number I might have chosen related to the World Trade Center buildings, and the subsequent investigation and analysis by National Institute of Standards and Technology: Architect Richard Gage, of American Institute of Architects, has said, "While the NIST-sponsored UL (United Laboratories) floor assembly fire tests demonstrated only 2 to 4 inches of sag with no failure at 2,000 degrees for two hours, NIST nevertheless used 42 inches of sag in their computer models and concluded failure! These are very basic inconsistencies and suggest some serious data integrity problems."

NIST concluded building failure was due to fire alone. Discrepancies such as this should cause people of reason to demand a new investigation.

Dwain Deets

Encinitas

Ethics training for Marines and Congress

Ethics training: Young Marine, your convoy has just been blown up with an IED set off by an Iraqi; your fellow Marines, whom you have been trained to bond with as tightly as brothers, are dead and dying with the screams of those who see their own bodies torn apart ringing in your ears, even louder than the blast that just destroyed eight young men. You must try to save as many lives as you can; gather as many body parts as you can, yet, while doing this, you must smile and wave to the Iraqi citizens who are strolling by, even though some are laughing at the carnage and screaming at you, "Death to the American infidels" in a language you don't understand, but with a tenor and intonation that clearly allows you to apprehend the true nature of their words. Even so, smile, wave; it's important that the Iraqis like us, as we are guests in their country and we are there to help them!

Is it any wonder so many of our returning troops need mental health care? What we really need is mandatory and intensive ethics training for our elected officials in Congress and the executive branches of our government before they are allowed to take office.

Gil Noble

Vista

The left loves China

This weekend, while watching an entertainment program on TV, I was dismayed to hear the Hollywood crowd had a benefit to raise money for orphans in China. While it was a charitable event, I have to ask, why not the orphans here in this country? What is the fascination of China to the left? Is it because they're a communist country? ...

Back in the 1990s, we all witnessed the left's poster boy, Bill Clinton, allow Loral Corp., over objections from his State and Defense departments, to hand the Chinese sophisticated missile guidance technology. China now has the ability to hit our country with ballistic missiles. We watched Charlie Trie deliver cash contributions from the Chinese government to the White House. Last time that happened Spiro Agnew was forced to resign as vice president.

Campaign contributions collected at the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple by Al Gore were clearly violating existing campaign laws. Public pressure stopped Bill Clinton from turning over the port of Long Beach to the Chinese shipping company, COSCO. However, the control of the Panama Canal was given to the Chinese with Clinton's blessing. Perhaps, one of the regular contributors to this page, on the left, could give me some insight as to what is with your allegiance to China?

Jim Stuart

Carlsbad

Not enough help for seniors

In a letter dated May 24, Rick Paul suggests I call District Attorney Paul Greenwood's office in regard to help for elder abuse. I've been helping seniors in Escondido since 1987 and am well aware of my options. Escondido seniors get no help from the city code enforcement or city attorney's office. I have documented this numerous times in the past few years. ...

I personally know Paul Greenwood and the "aggressive pursuit" that Mr. Paul speaks of. It often consists of a letter or phone call stating, "We don't have the funds to investigate" or some other lame excuse. Maybe Rick should try and help someone and then speak from his own personal success instead of believing everything he hears from the likes of Paul Greenwood, the city and/or this paper. I can be called at (760) 745-3734.

Gerald Lenhard

Escondido

Hate crime bill deserves support

Love thy neighbor as thyself. Christ was against hatred and persecution of people perceived as different. Please be a good Christian and support the Matthew Shepard Act. This is a step toward equality for all under the law.

Laura Saenz

Oceanside

Web comments



Tri-City gives CEO current and future raises

Readers respond to our June 1 story about Tri-City Medical Center's governing board approving two raises for the hospital's chief executive Art Gonzalez at a regular meeting Thursday, citing a need to keep his salary competitive with executives at other similar-sized facilities.

Keeping my money

Larry: "Please join me in voting no for Tri-City's third bond election attempt that is likely to be on November's ballot. This board shows again with this obscene raise for its CEO that it cannot govern with the best interests of the district's residents in mind. Don't give them $600 million of your tax dollars to do what they please."

Wrong percentile

Get Real: "Thirty-four percent of hospital CEO's at similarly sized hospitals get paid more than Dr. Gonzalez and don't have to put up with Sterling ... doesn't seem fair."

Fat salaries

Oink, Oink, Oink: "Now here is a good reason why we don't need a hospital bond. The salary of these public employees needs to stop -- what an outrage. School superintendents rack in a couple hundred for producing the worst schools in the state, what is wrong with this picture? Where is the accountability and who controls the puppet boards?"

What a joke

Hilarious!: "Let's give the chief executives massive pay raises that place them in the top one percent of the US while the hospital system struggles to provide medical services. Is this a great country or what?"

Dead in the water

Oceansider: "These folks on the TCMC board just don't get it, and apparently they never will. Don't bother with hiring a consulting firm to assess why your bonds failed. And don't bother to float another one."

Seconds

ADIVINO: "This has to be the stupidest move the board has made yet. Kiss that new bond measure good-bye. As for Kathleen Sterling, give her credit for voting no -- her vote proves once again that even a busted clock can be right twice a day. She was right to vote no twice."

State shuts off one of SoCal's water supply taps

Readers respond to our June 1 story about state officials abruptly shutting down the pumps that delivers roughly two-thirds of Southern California's annual water supply to protect a fish, the endangered delta smelt. Officials say the shutdown would not cut anyone's water supply.

Drip, drip

HowDryIAm: "Socal, get the message: Water is precious and we need to get into the conservation mode in a serious way. This is just the tip of the -- melting -- iceberg."

Let it flow

Upset: "No way I'm cutting back. Governments and the building industry guaranteed that water was available before new housing was approved. Obviously, they did not know what they were talking about or they were lying. We need a moratorium until this is all sorted out and a guarantee means something. Besides, it is the one who cuts back now who gets hurt in the long run."

Drying up

joe: "It's time to get serious about water in Socal. We need to control our own future. Is that desalination plant in Carlsbad going to happen? Or are they still wrapped up in ridiculous red tape regarding the health of seaweed species, when the future of the entire region is at stake?"

Cork growth

San Marcos resident: "We need a moratorium on residential building and requirements for drought tolerant landscaping. Each water user should have a cap and then huge fines if more is used. But most importantly, no more population growth."

PPH reaches deal to buy Grandesco Building

Readers respond to our June 1 story about the Palomar Pomerado Health agreeing to buy the Grandesco Building on Grand Avenue in a move that offers some reassurance to people concerned about public hospital district's commitment to downtown Escondido.

Proud of PPH

Gadfly: "Interesting news; can't wait to see the whole plan fall neatly into place. PPH is on a roll. We knew they wouldn't dare to deceive us. Go PPH -- make us proud!"

Don't get it

Perry: "I thought they (PPH) was going to build a new office building downtown and that's why they needed Valley Boulevard -- not just renovate the Grandesco Building in preparation for moving its corporate offices there from Carmel Mountain Ranch this fall."

Hot feet

The Cobra: "Councilman Abed, please keep Palomar Pomerado's feet to the fire. Remember the MOU Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3. Abed for Mayor."

More questions

Confused?: "Is PPH going to tear down this building to make room to build the new 50,000 square foot corporate office building? Weren't they supposed to buy the whole block? Is 12,000 square feet enough room for 200 corporate employees? Does this mean that the City of Escondido is now obligated to spend $2.5 million to relocate Valley Boulevard?"

History lesson

Traffic Study: "Remember the traffic study about the impacts of closing Valley Blvd.? Remember the public discussion of those traffic impacts? In case you missed them, those discussions [are on nctimes.com]. There you have it! 'Phillips said that city officials do not see the loss of Valley Boulevard as a potential problem because drivers can use other streets to get around the hospital.' That's it! Drivers can use other streets. Any idea what other streets? Also, will it cost the city $2.5 million to have the drivers use these other streets?"

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Anti-airport rhetoric wrote on Jun 2, 2007 8:47 PM:Bob Sheard appears to have been nominated as Esther's chief anti-airport hatchet man. Look for more emotional attacks on the local airport as the election draws near.

MIKE THE MARINE..... wrote on Jun 2, 2007 9:03 PM:Read my lips!..... No more Sanchez!!

Marky Marx wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:19 PM:Right on, anti-gunner Joe, you are the MAN!!! If it were'nt for Reagan, we'd still be fighting Communism instead of embracing it. Power to the peeps. Right on Joe!!!!

Mike America wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:23 PM:Now that was a winner (NCForum letters award night) if I've ever read one. Hey, I want to reserve tickets for next year.......have one of associates contact me.

To Juan Blanco wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:32 AM:You've got to be kidding me. We should fly the Mexico flag on the same level as the US flag. That is not just a slap in the face to the current military, it is a slap in the face to all of the military that has ever served. I pledge allegiance to the US Flag, not Mexico. Shameful, shameful, shameful. The Mexican flag should not be flown, period. Yet alone equal to the US flag and above the California flag. Oh, and Mexicans in the military, give me a break. The only people i served with in the military were hispanic Americans, not Mexicans. That's a whole different military in a whole different country.

ASSAULT on Reason .. wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:12 AM:… An assault on reason is made today by letter writer Dwain Deets. I ask him the questions Al Gore asks: QUOTE "Should we amend all of the textbooks in America to explain to schoolchildren that what has been taught for more than two centuries about checks and balances is no longer valid? Should we teach them instead that the United States Congress and the courts are merely advisory groups that make suggestions to the president on what the law should be, but that the president is all-powerful and now has the final say on everything? Should we teach them that we are a government of men, not of laws? Should we teach them that we used to be a democracy but now we only pretend to be?"

MIKE AMERIKA ... wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:23 AM:… and the goose-stepping right loves Fascism, American style. Hail to victory!

How GLOBAL WARMING works ... wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:38 AM:… Richard Crews is brilliant in his explanation. What we learned is that a transparent medium, such as glass in a closed car, traps the heat inside the cab, but an opaque medium, such as metal, shuts out the heat of the sun. Thus the inside of the trunk is not as hot as the cab. This makes the solution to global warming apparent: turn the atmosphere from a transparent clear skies medium to an murky opaque medium. We can do this by pumping the atmosphere full of coal dust and smoke, to block out the suns rays. Add a lot more autos and smoke belching factories and we will soon block out the sunlight. This is what Dick Cheney has been saying all along. He is so much smarter than those egghead scientists.

Veritas wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:02 AM:All you enthusiasts who blast the left and the right--Democrats and Republicans need to wake up. Our whole system of government especially congress is one whole spoliation of the public. Iraq, oil, immigration, decline of middle class, jobs going overseas, few corporations owned by Americans while we talk about Bush's follies and Kennedy's records. We are selling out America in the name of Globalism with deficits too unreal to quantify. Focus.

That “GREAT SUCKING SOUND” … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:20 AM:… Since the passage of NAFTA, factory wages in Mexico have declined over ten percent. Even worse, the Mexican government has been required to end subsidies for bean and corn production, making these staples of the diet too expensive to produce or purchase for many Mexicans. It is nice to speak of the lawless incursions, but is violation of law to save one's family from literal or near starvation unethical? Respect for law is important, but it must be tempered by the acknowledgment that law has its limits. Law must be revised when it inflicts ever more obvious harms. The vast incursions of large numbers of immigrants concentrated in particular communities, such as the US Southwest, surely puts a strain on public services. At a minimum federal support for communities disproportionately impacted by national problems and policies would be appropriate, but the government accepts no responsibility. In the long run, however, we must address rogue corporations that pit the labor force in China and Mexico against that in the United States. This is the “great sucking sound” we are hearing, sucking out our good paying jobs as well as capital. The problem is two-pronged: the immigration of cheap labor into the United States, and the export of good paying jobs overseas. We see the Mexicans entering our nation, but we do not see the Chinese and Indians who stay at home and take American jobs. Out of sight, out of mind. We don’t see the Chinese, so we are much less likely to blame them. We do see the Mexicans, however, so we place the blame on them. Actually, ALL the blame goes to rogue corporations which do not give a crap about American workers. Their concern is fattening their profits by exploiting LABOR. Until labor unions around the world can negotiate on an equal footing with corporate fascism, the crisis will simply continue to worsen. Raoul Lowery Contreras in his letter today, speaks of the deleterious effects of fascism, but I believe he is confused about the real situation. He states correctly that “in a fascist society, companies remain in private hands, but the government tells the companies what to do and when to do it”; but what we have today is rogue corporations dictating to governments what to do and when to do it. This is global fascism, a far more oppressive form than that of “Il Duce”.

Radical Right Wing values … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:42 AM:… Alexandra Cloney (letter today) compares values of the liberals vs. those of the radical right wing. John McCain, in one of his occasional lucid moments stated QUOTE “I don't mourn the loss of any terrorist's life. Nor do I care if in the course of serving their ignoble cause they suffer great harm. They have pledged their lives to the intentional destruction of innocent lives, and they have earned their terrible punishment in this life and the next. What I do mourn is what we lose when by official policy or official neglect we allow, confuse or encourage our soldiers to forget that best sense of ourselves, that which is our greatest strength-that we are different and better than our enemies, that we fight for an idea, not a tribe, not a land, not a king, not a twisted interpretation of an ancient religion, but for an idea that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights.” END QUOTE . McCain is right on this one. Cloney is dead wrong in endorsing the values of this Bush administration’s official policy of torture and “extraordinary rendition” (abductions) of innocent human being as play things for depraved jailers. This and the bombing of innocent children and civilians illustrate the sordid values of the radical Reich Wing.

Impeachment wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:00 AM:Sorab Please; If we impeached GWB then who would be in charge? Yep, Dick Cheney, and lets face it, Cheney, Rumsfeld and company have been running things in the background for twenty five plus years. Also, all democrats are spineless.

FASCIST SOCIETY … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:01 AM:… Raoul Lowery Contreras, in his letter today, stated: “In a fascist society, companies remain in private hands, but the government tells the companies what to do and when to do it, including moving or not moving. Free enterprise is pretty much the opposite.” This is a fairly well understood concept, but my question is what is the name of the situation in which corporations tell the government what and when to do? This is what we have in the United States today, and I do not know what to call it. It is more insidious than classic Fascism. Perhaps it is Amerika-Fascism? Or Globo-fascism? Or Cheney-Apparatchikism. Any suggestions from our political scientists out there in blogger land? What do you call the system in which government officials and Congress are slaves to corporate power?

That “GREAT SUCKING SOUND” … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:02 AM:… Since the passage of NAFTA, factory wages in Mexico have declined over ten percent. Even worse, the Mexican government has been required to end subsidies for bean and corn production, making these staples of the diet too expensive to produce or purchase for many Mexicans. It is nice to speak of the lawless incursions, but is violation of law to save one's family from literal or near starvation unethical? Respect for law is important, but it must be tempered by the acknowledgment that law has its limits. Law must be revised when it inflicts ever more obvious harms. The vast incursions of large numbers of immigrants concentrated in particular communities, such as the US Southwest, surely puts a strain on public services. At a minimum federal support for communities disproportionately impacted by national problems and policies would be appropriate, but the government accepts no responsibility. In the long run, however, we must address rogue corporations that pit the labor force in China and Mexico against that in the United States. This is the “great sucking sound” we are hearing, sucking out our good paying jobs. The problem is two-pronged: the immigration of cheap labor into the United States, and the export of good paying jobs overseas. We see the Mexicans entering our nation, but we do not see the Chinese who stay at home and take American jobs. Out of sight, out of mind. We don’t see the Chinese, so we are much less to blame them. We do see the Mexicans, however, so we place the blame on them. Actually, ALL the blame goes to rogue corporations which do not give a crap about American workers. Their concern is fattening their profits by exploiting LABOR. Until labor unions around the world can negotiate on an equal footing with corporate fascism, the crisis will simply continue to worsen.

KOOL-AID drinkers … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:10 AM:… QUESTION: Why were Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin never impeached? Because they never committed an impeachable offense. You must first discover an impeachable offense, just as letter writer Dan Shapiro stated.

Bush’s illegal WIRETAPPING … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:19 AM:… The Senate and House Intelligence Committees are asking former attorney general John Ashcroft to testify about a March 2004 hospital-room confrontation during which he refused to sign off on a continuation of President Bush's warrantless eavesdropping program. The requests for Ashcroft's testimony reflect the mounting consternation on the part of committee leaders who have been denied vital information about the illegal wiretapping issue by the Bush administration. White House officials claim executive privilege for their criminal activity, justified in the name of “national security”.

Gadfly to NCT wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:55 AM:Thank you, thank you for giving us the reassurance that we needed regarding PPH's plans. With NCT's support and financial backing to make up for any shortfalls, I now have no doubt that PPH will deliver and in spades. You will prove to those mean-spirited naysayers that you can't set a dollar figure when it comes to saving face. Again, we thank you for making all of our unfounded fears go away. I'm sure all of the taxpayers served by PPH will join me in paying you your due.

Ron wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:36 AM:I think most of us understand how global warming works, Richard Crews. It's in the fixing, that we have an issue. He says: "The heat can be man-made, or extraterrestrial sunspot activity, it doesn't matter -- we can't get rid of it!" Ok, the latter first, if the sun is "the" producer here, we have nothing to "fix", since the sun is not ours to fix. But, back to this man-made idea. Let's say it is, I don't agree, but let's say we do agree, and now what? What are the so-called "experts" proposing to remedy this CO2 problem were facing? That's right... the time un-proven, time disproven and totally dysfunctional Cap & Trade System for carbon. We have smog credits, they utterly failed to control smog, so... hey! Let's tried a failed approach, to fix this one too! And...and... here's the best part, those who can "afford" to pollute more, will! Because they have money, and can afford to pay, like a ticket. The little guy, what's he get? A beer can for a car, higher prices for items with carbon taxes down the line to him, and a smaller discretionary spending from his paycheck, for all of you concerned about the poor. So.. in the long run, the "rich" don't actually pollute less, they just pay more for it. This is exactly what Al Gore and other elitists do when they are asked about their lifestyles, i.e. jet setting. "Oh... Me? Oh.. I planted a few trees to offset my increase in carbon output thus not really adding more." WHAT? Excuse me, but it's really this simple. If you pollute, you pollute. If you poolute more than anyother person on the face of the earth, then your a problem, not the rest. And if actually using LESS was the issue, then you'd be doing it. But, it's not about that at all. It's about more money through carbon taxes, and if you can afford to pollute more, then you will. Consider it, a sin tax, like alcohol or tobbacco. Yes, that sinful old carbon, where you place your money in the tithe/tax basket, and all your sins are washed away. Perhaps we're familiar with smog, and we think of pollution as a noxious chemical stew or a hot exhaust spew. A certain political wing reads their subliminally wrong ideas into global warming reports, and reduces science to their simple notions and words. The naysayers create basic fallacies and wild exaggerations, echoed incessantly. The global warming theory states that the increased CO2 retains heat (physics), not makes heat (chemistry). The past ice ages and warming periods are actually a confirmation of the correlation of CO2 and temperature. The fact that CO2 is natural doesn't lessen the fact that we're flooding our atmosphere. That the molecule CO2 is in itself nontoxic is meaningless. Water is natural and nontoxic, but too much is called a flood, and we do something about it. The physics can be demonstrated: Park a black car, windows up, in the sun. The paint will be too hot to touch, yet the interior will be hotter than the enclosed black trunk. The glass retains the thermal heat energy wavelengths, trapping them inside. Global warming is a very real problem.

Bill & Ted wrote on Jun 3, 2007 7:14 AM:That Ata Agah is "full of history". He is so correct with his statement - "From the day that the U.S. took California from Mexico by force of arm, nothing has changed. The land is still full of Mexicans." Alaska is kinda cold for us so we think we will stay here with all the Mexican-Americans. Viva San Dimas! Waterlube! By the way, we have missed your wit Ata. Don't be such a stranger.

jelly beans wrote on Jun 3, 2007 8:37 AM:You won't find Reagan's "cut and run" from Lebanon in anyone's book on what a warrior our B-picture ex-movie star liked to pretend he was. I also noticed like Joe Grant the fact that way before his 8 years were up he was quite a few jelly beans short of a bowl.

occupying armies wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:09 AM:If you are going to occupy a nation by military force you can't just kill civilians with impunity. As we see in Iraq, they not only didn't like to be invaded, they hate our guts now for the murder and torture of their citizens. But Gil Noble is right about the responsibility of our elected representatives in this mess. Withdraw all our soldiers now.

We love China! wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:24 AM:Jim Stuart repeats the old canard about Clinton giving the Panama Canal to China in 1999. As we see, the Canal is doing just fine thank you very much. After 96 years of military occupation of Panama we finally turned the management of the canal over to Panama. This treaty also "authorizes the United States to take whatever actions are necessary to maintain the neutrality of the waterway." I guess the American left is interested in China because after all it has the largest population in the world and this keyboard I am typing on was made there. Using the "evil China" bugaboo is only done by the real right-wing whackos these days. Thankfully some of us use our minds.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:46 AM:Mr. Juan Blanco, Jr. is just plain wrong. The flying of any foreign flag, including the Mexican flag, is everyone?s concern and especially the concern of the ticket buyers. You do not have the right or the power to tell anyone that it is not there concern. If the Mexican flag is flown at Petco, it must be flown lower than our national colors. There are thousands of immigrants in our armed forces. Following Bianco?s logic, the flags from their various nations should also be flown. More over, every single person in the armed forces of the United States has personally taken an oath to serve under the flag of the United States and to support the Constitution of the United States. I feel that the public should not have to read your nonsense as we have more important subjects on our mind. ...

To Juan Blanco wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:06 AM:The Mexican flag should be flown in one place and one place only, in Mexico. Flying the Mexican flag here in the US shows great disrespect to our country and it's people, and shows you have no intent to assimilate. Please explain why if your so proud of Mexico, are you here?

FOCAL POINT wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:11 AM:Alexandra Cloney: Do you include the administration of Nixon, Ford,Regean,Bush SR and Bush Jr during those last 40 years?

gordon wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:46 AM:Contreras- you're full of ...! By every measure, NAFTA is a failure.According to my Mexican friends(I speak spanish)the maquiladores are paying $15-$20 A DAY!! 1/3 have shut down and moved to China.Those factories escaped pollution controls too.Now China is losing those factories to Vietnam. The giant sucking sound is real, a real RACE TO THE BOTTOM.

Conservatism wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:14 AM:Conservatives have kept an open mind about global warming, but we have seen little hard proof that mankind is responsible for the small, roughly 1 degree global temperature increase over the last century. Saying that it is "scientific consensus" that mankind is causing global warming means little when more than 17,100 American scientists disagree. Liberals want to impose massive regulatory schemes that would increase taxes, cost millions of jobs, and cause fuel prices to skyrocket even though most environmentalists acknowledge that Kyoto and the carbon credit trading schemes that have been put forth would make little dent in the amount of greenhouse gasses produced by mankind.

Conservatism wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:17 AM:Conservatives may not be happy with how the war in Iraq has gone so far, but we believe that pulling out before the Iraqi government can defend itself from attack would lead to a nightmare scenario that has the potential to produce millions of dead Iraqis, a massive spike in worldwide oil costs, and an increase in terrorism after Al-Qaeda declares victory over the United States. Liberals understand the consequences for pulling out of Iraq too quickly just as well as conservatives, but they would prefer to see America lose the war in Iraq, despite the horrible consequences, because they believe it would benefit them politically.

Conservatism wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:19 AM:Conservatives believe that the more distant the government gets from the constituents it serves, the worse it performs. That's why, if it's absolutely necessary that government become involved in an issue, it's usually better for state and local governments to become involved instead of the Federal Government.

Nick wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:21 AM:To Juan Blanco: Are you an American? Or are you a Mexican? Or are you a Mexican-American? If your a hyphenated American, than your not an American at all. If your so proud to be Mexican, than why don't you help your people to formant change in Mexico? That would be truly helping them. For the record, there are No Mexicans in the Military, ONLY AMERICANS, every single one of them, and I am proud of every single one!

Nick wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:25 AM:To Ata, Bill & Ted: You guys obviuosly forgot your history. Who did Mexico steal the land from ? For the record, North America has ALWAYS been Native American Land! It was never the Mexicans and it was never the Eurpoeans, it was my ancestors. Alaska is ours too. Pay the billions owed or leave, and take Arnold and all the Mexicans with you. Give America back to us Natives!

MORAL IMPERATIVE … wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:54 AM:… The cry for impeachment is fast reaching critical mass, and is mentioned in the letter section with growing frequency. Sorhab Ghandhi’s letter today is particularly succinct. With the fast fading of the Bush patina into rot, the job of impeachment is now being taken on by a top successful Mafia lawyer, Preet Bharara is a 38-year-old Indian-American lawyer, who made his name prosecuting the bosses of the Gambino and Colombo crime families in New York. Now the former district attorney has President Bush in his sights, as well as the man they call "Bush's Brain": Karl Rove, the president's chief political adviser. Mr Bharara is already well on his way to claiming his first prominent political scalp through his role as senior counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee, one of three bodies conducting inquiries into the sacking by the Bush administration of eight US lawyers. I think hardnosed Mafia prosecutors are exactly what impeachment needs to move forward against Bush-Cheney. We cannot let these crooks simply tread water until they are out of office. Impeachment MUST be done as a moral and constitutional imperative to begin restoration of Separation of Powers and moral leadership to our nation.

To great sucking sound # wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:09 PM:. The “great sucking sound” is about to blast several decibels higher, thanks to the Bush-Cheney corporate cabal with their promotion of a corn-based ethanol alternative. Earlier this year Bush made a trip to Brazil to investigate Brazil’s spectacular success with ethanol production. Almost all vehicles there use ethanol. So Bush comes home, and plans to switch Mexican and American corn food production to ethanol production, reducing the amount of maize and corn for the poor and raising the price of food. BRILLIANT. Simply brilliant corporate thinking. This will accelerate the pressure for Mexico’s poor to immigrate to the U.S. so they can feed their families.

to occupying 9:09am wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:46 PM:How many of those Iraqi "civilians" do you suppose were terrorists whose sole purpose in life was to kill Americans? How many of those "civilians" do you suppose were Iranian agents whose sole mission was to kill Americans and contribute to chaos in Iraq? How many of those "civilians" do you suppose were al-Queda operatives whose sole mission was to kill Americans and contribute to chaos in Iraq and to eventually claim victory in Iraq, then turn their sites on the "weak" US homeland? According to the military, almost all of them. And rational thinking Americans obviously believe our military commanders before they would believe the far left nut jobs who constantly propogandize the lie that we are indiscriminately murdering thousands of innocent bystanders. That is the job of the aforementioned "citizens"; sadly, people like you are only way to eager to give them a pass and pin their atrocities on our fine military who are standing up for your right to preach such rubbish.

Nick wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:48 PM:This is an e-mail that was sent to me from a good friend of my Fathers. I think you all should read: Two weeks ago, as I was starting my sixth month of duty in Iraq , I was forced to return to the USA for surgery for an injury I sustained prior to my deployment. With luck, I'll return to Iraq to finish my tour...I left Baghdad and a war that has every indication that we are winning, to return to a demoralized country much like the one I returned to in 1971 after my tour in Vietnam. Maybe it's because I'll turn 60 years old in just four months, but I'm tired...I'm tired of spineless politicians, both Democrat and Republican who lack the courage, fortitude, and character to see these difficult tasks through...I'm tired of the hypocrisy of politicians who want to rewrite history when the going gets tough...I'm tired of the disingenuous clamor from those that claim they 'Support the Troops' by wanting them to 'Cut and Run' before victory is achieved...I'm tired of a mainstream media that can only focus on car bombs and casualty reports because they are too afraid to leave the safety of their hotels to report on the courage and success our brave men and women are having on the battlefield...I'm tired that so many Americans think you can rebuild a dictatorship into a democracy over night...I'm tired that so many ignore the bravery of the Iraqi people to go to the voting booth and freely elect a Constitution and soon a permanent Parliament...I'm tired of the so called 'Elite Left' that prolongs this war by giving aid and comfort to our enemy, just as they did during the Vietnam War...I'm tired of antiwar protesters showing up at the funerals of our fallen soldiers. A family who's loved ones gave their life in a just and noble cause, only to be cruelly tormented on the funeral day by cowardly protesters is beyond shameful...I'm tired that my generation, the Baby Boom -- Vietnam generation, who have such a weak backbone that they can't stomach seeing the difficult tasks through to victory...I'm tired that some are more concerned about the treatment of captives than they are the slaughter and beheading of our citizens and allies...I'm tired that when we find mass graves it is seldom reported by the press, but mistreat a prisoner and it is front page news...Mostly, I'm tired that the people of this great nation didn't learn from history that there is no substitute for Victory. Sincerely, Joe ..., Lieutenant Colonel , U. S. Army 101st Airborne Division

FOCAL POINT wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:20 PM:Raoul Lowery Contreras Your conclusion about illegals coming to the USA to work is incorrect. The 12 to 23 million illegal aliens from Mexico in the USA today invaded since 1986.

A question for "conservatism" wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:22 PM:I see that you are finally willing to acknowledge that the war in Iraq is not going well. Just about everyone in the US feels this way. But let me ask you something because I truly don't understand it: since the war is going badly, why is it that I never get a sense that conservatives are angry at our President for doing this to our country and to the Iraqis. And this when many of you ARE angry at Bush for his stance on illegal immigration. Do you think that the problems in Iraq have not been Bush's fault in any way? I always thought that conservatives really value and admire competence. Do you think Bush has run the war, since day one, competently? Or are you merely good little Bushian blamers, saying that Bush's success was prevented by that nasty liberal media, or Rosie O'Donnell? (By the way, in passing, a study done by FAIR showed that in the run up to the war, the major network news shows gave viewers over 300 guests who were for the Iraq war and 3 who were opposed. Is it the 3 that should have been zero if the media wasn't so darn liberal?)

conservatives wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:39 PM:Conservatives fought the following American advancements: Having the government insure a safe food supply, having the government regulate and insure a safe medical supply, Americas entrance into WWII, seat-belts in cars, gas mileage requirements on cars, pollution controls for cars and factories, Social Security, Medi-care. Almost everything that Americans take for granted as an important part of our lives has been opposed by conservatives. Do we really want them in charge of our government?

to Nick wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:46 PM:Oh, Nick, please. This man served probably 40 years in the military. Yet all he can muster are the cliches (talk about "tired"!) that we'd always win easily if it weren't for our spineless citizens giving comfort to the enemy. Fact is, Iraq and VietNam were unprovoked and unnecessary wars, that were started by politicians and sold to us with lies. I'm tired too. Tired of the senseless deaths and injuries, tired of the nonsensical rhetoric that gives Rosie O'Donnell the miraculous power of determining the outcome of a war half a globe away. Most of all, I am tired of my countrymen trying to shame the 70% of our citizens who know the truth, whom you try to say are cowards or unpatriotic because we don't put victory (however that is even defined in Iraq) ahead of all other values. I am so tired of the rage of the people who are not over Viet Nam and its lessons and are willing to fight anywhere and kill anyone just to have that "like a winner" feeling again. I'm really tired of politicians using this twisted kind of faux patriotism for their own ends, while they sit in their offices collecting checks and votes wrung from your bravery and anger.

Moving On wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:55 PM:The only part of the global warming issue that is “settled” is the science surrounding CO2 . . . so why do partisans keep beating that dead horse? The question that is far from settled boils down to this: Which has the potential to do the most harm to civilization as we know it, global warming or a massive world bureaucracy designated to control global warming?

El Guero wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:03 PM:Dear FASCIST SOCIETY (3:01am): maybe the word you're seeking is simply 'corporatism.' There sure are enough 'isms' out there, but nothing today has a stench of an 'ism' with corporate in front of it. Not even 'socialism' or 'communism' or even 'fascism.'

OBSERVATION wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:13 PM:to occupying 9:09am wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:46 PM Don't ask the question unless you know the answer. How many of the thousands of Iraqis killed in this war were the enemy? You really don't know. I really don't know and even the military after action reports can not properly decern it. So, the attitude has just been to just indscriminatly waste anything that moves. Shoot now and ask questions later. One thing that I do know is that 5 of the 24 killed at Haditha could be insurgents and the rest were civilians. Or, they could all have been civilians.

gimmeabreak wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:25 PM:Gee thanks, Nick, I love the reminder that "elite" is such a bad thing. When we have an illness or an injury we all want an "elite" doctor. We all want an "elite" attorney to defend us when we're accused of something. We seek "elite" plumbers or contractors when something needs repair that we cannot fix ourselves. We want our business books handled by an elite accountant. But when it comes to political decisions - like whether or not we should go into a war, and whether or not we should stay in a war that isn't going well, and into which we were misled by a bunch of culled "intelligence", all of a sudden we no longer need somebody who is elite? We want the guy we'd wanna have a beer with? You'd think after the Dukester we'd all learn our lessons that military training does not necessarily equate with diplomatic and governmental knowledge, but apparently not.

Conservatism wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:41 PM:Conservatives believe that the United Nations is a corrupt, anti-American, anti-Semitic talking shop that is largely hostile to American interests and is too incompetent to be much of use in areas where it's not. Liberals are internationalists who still have confidence in the UN. Moreover, they don't seem to be overly concerned about signing our country on to international schemes that are slanted against us, or about the fact that nations that are largely hostile to our interests like China, France, and Russia have a veto over any significant action that the UN can take.

Conservatism wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:44 PM:Conservatives believe that judges should act like umpires instead of legislating from the bench. That means that judges should determine whether laws are permissible under the Constitution and settle debates about the meaning of laws, not impose their will based on their ideological leanings. Liberals view judges as a backdoor method of getting unpopular left-leaning legislation passed. They don't want umpires, they want political partisans in black robes who will side with them first and then come up with a rationale to explain it.

Conservatism wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:45 PM:Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions. On the other hand, liberals believe that it's ok to discriminate based on race as long as it primarily benefits minority groups.

Proud Liberal wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:46 PM:Regarding "The left loves China" I thought you ring-wingers were supposed to be the "family values" crowd. Apparently after babies are born you don't care at all about them. We liberals tend to love not just embryos, but also babies, children and even adults. We are the "make love not war" people. Not only to we care about orphans in this country, we also care about those in other countries. It's a Christian thing, so I'm sure you wouldn't understand it. If you had a shred of decency you would be happy that money was being raised for orphans, not matter where they are. How many orphaned children have YOU helped? By the way, it is your people that have us in debt up to our necks with China to support your illegal wars. You must like the communists since you are selling our country to them.

Wow! wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:06 PM:Today we hear that Iran's president Ahmedinijad claims there is a countdown to the destruction of Israel. We also hear Russia's Putin stating that their missiles are now pointed at Europe. But don't remind American liberals of such silly nonsense. To them, Bush is the biggest threat to world peace. Go figure.

El Gato wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:16 PM:to El Guero...Corporatism? Yikes! How scary! You mean the fact that ordinary every day workers (like myself and all my friends and acquaintances) can actually OWN securities in a company? Buy and sell those securities when we feel like it? Enjoy the fruits of that ownership in said company so as to one day enjoy our twilight years with our grandchildren? Man, that is just downright EVIL! What stench! How dare us common folk! It may be corporatism to you. To me, it sounds more like liberty.

El Guero wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:33 PM:Dear El-pussy-Gato: Yes! your Chicano friends and your Chicano self can actually OWN securities in a company! Providing you have the right accent!

Moving On wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:44 PM:Mr. Green, how about this common sense approach? Plug the leak at the border (that takes care of the security issues). Arrest and deport the criminals (that takes care of the “unwelcome”). Revoke the Welfare State (that takes care of the economics problems). Now, how complicated is that?

to Proud Liberal wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:49 PM:Your 2:46pm post is a hoot. Let's dissect it, shall we? "Apparently after babies are born you don't care at all about them." Not true. That's why we value the traditional family; nurturing, raising, and teaching our children is a core value. If all who gave birth subscribed to this, it wouldn't be an issue. Further, you define caring for babies as throwing government money at them. There are millions of illegitimate examples as to why that approach has been a miserable failure. But, yeah. You care. Uh huh. "liberals love embryoes"? 40 million abortions over the years say otherwise. "we are the 'make love not war' people." Yes you are. And ever since 1973 there has been a greedy ghoulish abortionist waiting nearby to snuff out the unexpected result of your lovemaking. Too bad that result was a living human being.....Ah, forget it. What's the use?

To Crews wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:56 PM:"Greenland"

To Raoul wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:58 PM:Did you enjoy Ms USA being booed in Mexico City? When do we support this country?

to Wow wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:58 PM:There is no question that the President of Iran's stance towards Israel is unacceptable. I have read that he is in terrible political shape and that an ever-growing number of Iranians dislike him and even desire a more westerized way of life. The reason Bush is so feared around the world is that he is capable of seeing Iran as just its President. He is capable of believing that going into Iran with air strikes or an invasion would lead the Iranian people to greet us with flowers and parades. Iran could be turned around. Their President is more despised there daily. But if anyone can blow this opportunity, Bush just might be the guy. As for Putin, can you explain what he is doing that Bush isn't doing?

Foreign flags wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:02 PM:OMG I just was at Major Market in Escondido. Did you know that over various displays of imported foods they are displaying flags of those countries? Britain, Germany, even FRANCE!!!! You patriots ought to get down there fast and rip those babies down.

Conservatives and the UN wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:05 PM:And yet, when we accuse Bush of instigating an unprovoked war, listen to the conservatives chanting in unison: Saddam violated UN resolutions! How nice for the UN to not be corrupt or unAmerican when it suits us, when it provides conservatives with the moral authority for a war.

OBSRVATION wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:33 PM:Iran's president Ahmedinijad Iran's president Ahmedinijad Wow! wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:06 PM Russia's missles are in answer to the protective shield to be installed in Europe. That shield is provocative to Russian security. So, they had to counter it. Don't blaim Putin, he thinks in cold war terms as a former KGB officer. I blaim GWB who knows Putin thinks cold war. Bush went ahead and did it anyway. The Iranian threat against Israel is old news. He has been making it for years even when the Neocons were in total control of our American government.You and I both know what will be the outcome if Israel is attacked. so, just what is your point? Are you just trying that old neocon sport of throwing mud up agaonst the wall to if it sticks?

Gosh, Conservatives, wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:46 PM:I hate to burst your multiple, magical bubbles here... but first, there are in fact a large number of non-Americans serving in our military. By that, I mean people who are not citizens. About 1500 of them are Mexicans (not the dreaded hyphenated type, either!). What the heck is so scary about another country's flag? I fly the American flag at my home, but it doesn't make me upset or scared to see another country's flag being flown. America should show solidarity and respect for other countries. Also, we feel like broken records over here in the reality-based community, but again, we'll say for the record: Global Warming is real. It is happening, and it is due to actions by humans. Ron, the fact is that the scientific community is actually in almost complete agreement about this. The fact that the Bush Administration has managed to get a few scientists to sell their souls and preach the party line does not constitute "science."

Content of their character wrote on Jun 3, 2007 5:04 PM:I was fortunate to be around at the time of the civil rights movement and participated in some small degree. For the life of me, I cannot recall a single conservative who had any part in this movement. In fact, since LBJ was dragged, kicking and screaming, to sign the Civil Rights Act, the Democratic party to this day has lost the conservative South (please, don't tell us the South was Democratic till then..we know. We're talking liberal/conservative not Democrat/Republican...not the same for sure in the '60s). Most conservatives opposed integration of schools, opposed the voting act, hated seeing those restrooms for "colored people" destroyed. (ask them too about their record on women's suffrage, equal rights and pay for women, maternity leave) But history is to be rewritten by these people of such great character, again doing whatever works.

FOCAL POINT wrote on Jun 3, 2007 5:28 PM:Gosh, Conservatives, wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:46 PM The Mexicans who are in the American Army have sworn allegiance to the USA, its consitution and servie under the Stars and Stripes. I do not mind the Mexican flag being flown as long as it is flown lower than the American flag or beneath it within the boundaries of the United States of America. Many Americans are aware of the progarm of La Raza and MENCHA and the future plan to radicalize them or their future legal children to destroy the national integrity of this nation. 23 million invaders into this country is not showing respect for our laws and seeking solidarity with us.

To Gosh Conservatives wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:29 PM:POP, just so you know, you have to be a legal citizen of the US to be in the military, I dont know where your getting your info from, but it's wrong. Yes, there are people of every nationality, but they are all citizens and here legally. I'm not scared to see another countries flag being flown either, I just feel it's disrespectful. Funny how you dont see any other nationalities flying their flags all over, just the mexican flag. And as for Forgein Flag"s opinion, putting forgein flags over imported foods in the grocery store is hardly the same as flying the Mexican flag outside your home or business here in the US not Mexico, showing where your allegiance lies. If your allegiance lies elsewhere, then thats where you should be.

OBSERVATION wrote on Jun 8, 2007 3:08 PM:To Gosh Conservatives wrote on Jun 4, 2007 3:29 PM: You do not have to be a legal citizen in order to be a member of the American armed forces.

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