After the storm -- All Saints Episcopal replaces priest who left church last year

By: GARY WARTH - Staff Writer | Saturday, June 9, 2007 1:32 PM PDT

The Rev. Michael Carr is the new full-time priest at All Saints Episcopal Church in Vista, which has had an interim priest since the Rev. Joe Rees left last year to form an Anglican church.
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The Rev. Michael Carr knows his predecessor left abruptly because of a theological dispute. He knows his new church's congregation is small because some church members also left. And he knows he is moving into an area where his denomination has been affected by a nationwide schism.

But all that is in the past. Carr said his focus is on the future.

"We'll be worshipping together, praising God together, and making a joyful noise in the future," said Carr, 50, about his plans at All Saints Episcopal Church in Vista, where he led his first service Sunday.

All Saints has had an interim priest since the Rev. Joe Rees left last July to form an Anglican church. Rees' departure was just one of several incidents in North County that reflected a nationwide crisis within the Episcopal Church.

Churches in Fallbrook, Oceanside, Rancho Penasquitos, San Marcos and Vista were among those affected by a schism that divided the Episcopal denomination between what many describe as liberal versus conservative theologies. Conservative Episcopalians were particularly dismayed at church leadership in recent years when an openly gay minister was ordained as a bishop and a female bishop was chosen as leader of the Episcopal Church of the United States.

Some congregations and clergy, such as Rees, broke away from the Episcopal Church of the United States but remained under the umbrella of the Anglican Communion, a worldwide network of 38 autonomous arms called provisions, that include the Episcopal Church. Break-away churches aligned with Anglican dioceses in other nations to remain within the communion.

Although the schism was nationwide, Carr said he did not see much effect in Port Angeles, Wash., where he had served as a priest for the past 13 years.

"It did not have as dramatic an effect in the Diocese of Olympia," he said. Out of 104 churches, two disagreed with the denomination's direction, he said, "and they were able to keep them in the diocese."

Carr, who was ordained 26 years ago, is no stranger to North County or even to All Saints Church. He and his wife were married in the church in 1980, and she still has family in the area.

"My wife was a member of the church here, so it's a bit of a coming home," he said.

"There's a few more people around now, but that's good," he said about changes in Vista since 1980. "It looks like it's going to be a very good place to be."

While not addressing the division in the church directly, Carr said he wants to be positive and inclusive.

"I'd hate to be known as a church that stands against something," he said. "I'd rather be known as a church that stands for something, and we're looking forward to inviting everybody. I'd like to be inviting to all kinds of people."

Carr said membership at All Saints has declined to about 75 families, but he said he hopes outreach efforts and time will help the congregation grow.

Sunday was an introduction for Carr, but it also was a farewell for some church members who have been meeting at All Saints for about a year.

St. John's Church in Fallbrook last year changed from an Episcopal to an Anglican church. While most of the congregation remained at the church under its new denomination, members who wanted to remain Episcopalian have been meeting at All Saints.

Last Sunday was the last meeting for the congregation, which will begin meeting in a rented space in Fallbrook next Sunday.

Carr said there are signs that the dust is settling after the schism, and churches now can forcus on growth and worship. He recently attended a conference called "The Other Side of the Storm," organized by the San Diego Diocese for area churches affected by the schism.

"We're all part of the Anglican Communion," he said, hopeful that the Episcopal churches will find unity with Anglican churches. "When churches have split and called themselves aligned with the Anglican Church, I kind of wince at that. We are all Anglicans. Our strengths outweigh our differences."

Contact staff writer Gary Warth at (760) 740-5410 or gwarth@nctimes.com. Comment at nctimes.com.

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brubay wrote on Jun 8, 2007 12:11 PM:"I'd hate to be known as a church that stands against something" Sorry Rev Carr, that is just one of the problems. Tough to deal with the 10 comandments with that kind of a fixation.

carol wrote on Jun 8, 2007 4:49 PM:That is funny, I go to one of the two churches which supposedly broke away and is still in the diocese. We haven't recognize the diocese of olympia since Oct 2004 and have been under Recife. Same for the other church. The people in Olympia have they heads in the sand and don't know what is going on. The diocese hasn't publicized much and the clergy in my old church would always change the subject and say we will not talk about that and the people just floated onl

Lawrence wrote on Jun 9, 2007 9:46 AM:Anglicanism has always understood the Bible to be written, and the requried interpretation taking into account, its primarily symbolic, not literal, language and meaning. Schismatics who are in the fundamentalist fold are NOT Anglican, actually far from it. ECUSA has its problems, but the break-away churches are typically following the American, small-brained, non-critical thinking, approach of Fundamentalism, which is contradictory to Anglicanism. There are a lot of things in the Bible which are offensive to God. Schismatics today focus on a few of these issues while ignoring others (like divorce and re-marriage of their pastors{thinking Tony at St Anne's}). That's called hypocrisy at best. Don't get me wrong, Spong and others have definitely spoken and written in a way that is wrong for a Bishop to do in public forums. ECUSA does need to reign in or ex-communicate those who fall outside Anglican orthodoxy. The funny part to me is the schismatics who claim they are leaving ECUSA to stay within the Anglican communion, but are actually joinging groups that are not in the Anglican tradition, and are outside the Book of Common Prayer catchecism.

Pete wrote on Jun 12, 2007 8:18 AM:My thoughts...... I spoke with my boss at work yesterday and he told me about a man who was a Catholic and then an Episcopal Priest. He has since left the Episcopal Church and started a non-profit company to help homeless people. Why did he do this? Because this ex-priest believes that our church (and the Roman Catholic Church as well) is entirely too focused on one topic (homosexuality) at the expense of what should be our true mission - being examples of God's love. Why has this happened? Simply put, because there are people in positions of authority in the church who have a stake in the result. Pete Akinola isn't doing what he is doing because he has some great benevolence for rich, white American Episcopalians. The House of Bishops are not doing what they are doing because they have some great desire to compromise with angry orthodox parishioners. In short, there is a lot of finger-pointing and very little dialog. There are a lot of motives (some obvious and some hidden) and very little honest discourse. I've said it before and I'll say it again. There are no heroes in this fight - only villains and victims. Meanwhile, secular society points at us and uses us as an example why religion is a corrupt and cynical institution. By our example, we prove their point. Because we cannot see beyond our own selfish need to be right, we make a mockery of the very thing we call faith and squander God's grace for the benefit of our own pride. Notice I say "we". I am definitely including myself in the assessment because I have hardly been a good Christian example either. I remain a "work in progress". The question then becomes "when does it stop?" When do we see beyond our selfish need to be right and live Jesus' call to help those in need? When do we not only know God's word (a more accurate way of saying that is we believe we know God's word), but live it in our lives? When do we humble ourselves enough to put this behind us for the benefit of somebody who needs us? Until we can answer these questions, there will continue to be only villains and victims in this church.

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