Jay TWO wrote on Jun 17, 2007 9:49 PM:I will move over when you tail gaters start going the posted SPEED LIMITS Most freeways throught out the State are 65 miles per hour not 66 and above. Speed kills it is also an offense to tailgate. SLOW DOWN & LIVE I also belive that you can not post anything in your windshield that would inpede your vision

Mary wrote on Jun 17, 2007 10:27 PM:$29! A sucker born every minute.

Daren wrote on Jun 17, 2007 10:39 PM:Everybody who takes part in this stupid idea has just identified themselves as a person who speeds in direct violation of established traffic laws. The CHP would be well-advised to pay special attention to any vehicle that displays anything in support of this ignorant individual and his website.

hooray... wrote on Jun 17, 2007 11:55 PM:finally. many of the left lane "campers" are trying to punish people who are driving faster than them by not moving out of the way. if the highway patrol would spend more time ticketing people impeding traffic rather than focusing on speeders (like they do in Germany), we would see some improvement to the awful congestion on our roadways.

Kevin wrote on Jun 18, 2007 6:45 AM:How about a much easier solution: drive within the speed limit?

jay two wrote on Jun 18, 2007 7:19 AM:Hooray what planet are you from. It is people like you who cause the price of gas to go up by using more gas to speed. Get a clue. Too bad our president does not come and push the speed limit down to 55 miles per hour to save our oil and lower the cost of Gas. What other laws are you breaking besides the Speed Laws. Take your SUV and slow down. CHP needs to get off their Duffs and ticket more speeders. We would all be safer. If you want to speed go to the race track.

Walt wrote on Jun 18, 2007 7:58 AM:Here comes some rain on this parade!! Lefties IMPROVE the total freeway capacity for all users!! All lanes traveling uniformly at the speed limit, (and 55 is better than 65) is optimum. Certainly some who would travel 70 take more time, but they are wasting fast lane capacity, and are causing many in the other lanes to lose time, and it is a net loss to the total population using the freeway. This the same reasom HOV lanes DECREASE freeway capacity.On some Great Britain freeways, the more compliant drivers there are regulated lane by lane with speed camera enforcemnt to the optimum speed for conditions. How would US drivers react to that? That said, I get annoyed by left lane sitters too. And indeed there are lane change and rage safety issues.

Sean wrote on Jun 18, 2007 8:28 AM:Perfect! All the 75+ mph drivers can prominently display their stupidity and gullibility all at once. Does J.A. Tosti include a free, "hey look at me, I spent $29 on the 'idiot arrow' bumper sticker" with every purchase?

For you righteous people wrote on Jun 18, 2007 8:32 AM:You might want to read up on Calfornia Vehicle Code 21654(a)Slower vehicle, in left lane(s), as well as 22400(a) Minimum speed, impeding normal flow of traffic.

Wow! wrote on Jun 18, 2007 8:49 AM:I have an idea... If it's that easy to get people to spend $29 on decal, I think that I'll create one for the rear window that says "I'm abiding by the law, so no." and give it away or simply take donations. What a hoot!

right-minded wrote on Jun 18, 2007 9:01 AM:The rest of the civilized world passes in the center lane & "cruises" the outside lanes. This rule applies to left-hand driving countries as well. It is only underdeveloped countries and the US that this rule is not followed. Watch traffic the next time you drive an interstate. It is not the slow-poke in the #1 (center)lane involved in an accident; it's the driver passing & weaving on the right who creates greatest peril. What needs to happen is a ban on cruising the #1 lane along with a ban on passing on the right. Slower traffic would naturally shift right & drivers would have greater visibility of quickly approaching motorists from behind.

Euroman wrote on Jun 18, 2007 9:03 AM:Why not follow European driving protocol and establish some lane discipline? Flash your headlights to indicate you wish to pass and get the driver in front of you to move into the other lane. To Jay: not everyone who wishes to pass in the left lane is a speeder. I've had to deal with many left lane drivers driving well below the posted speed limit. These drivers need to drive in the slower lanes.

Mr Traffic wrote on Jun 18, 2007 9:07 AM:Slower ? Slower than what ? I'll buy slower than the speed limit, but not slower than someone breaking the law. I stay out of the left lane because there is too much tail-gating in that lane to have safe vehicle intervals. That's the cause of those multiple vehicle crashes.

Scott wrote on Jun 18, 2007 9:46 AM:It's polite when a faster moving vehicle approaches you from behind in the passing lane that you move over and let them go. That way the CHP will be able to ticket them. It's not the job of individual drivers to slow other drivers down, just drive with courtesy and everyone gets what they want. I am a #2 lane 65 MPH cruise control driver and I laugh at people who get so frustrated with other drivers. At 65 in the #2 lane I don't catch anyone and the speeders can have the #1 all they want. I get home safe and the extra 3-5 minutes it takes me to get there gets me another song on the radio. P.S. I also move to the other side of the lane for motorcycles.

American woman wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:07 AM:Oh yeah! I sure am going to put out $29. for a decal. Uh-huh!

Yes! wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:07 AM:Left lane blockers should have their licenses revoked. There is no excuse for it at all. If you aren't going faster than the lane to your right, you are too far to the left.

Mike wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:13 AM:While I, and my car, are too old for the fast lane, I see no justification for obstructing it for everybody else. Perhaps there's a reason for 21654(a) and 22400(a).

David wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:17 AM:Here's the dirty little secret that everyone knows, but no one wants to admit: Movement on Southern California freeways depends on people going faster than the speed limit. If we all stayed under the limit our freeways would see much more gridlock. As for the argument that the price of gas is going up because of fuel economy, do you think the latest fluctuations in gas prices are the result of comparable fluctuations in demand, or do you think maybe it's because of changes in supply? I haven't seen the number of cars on the road increase by a third, so my bet is on supply. As for safety, the arrogant idiots who sit in the left lane going the speed limit in order to force others to do the same are creating a much more dangerous situation by causing drivers to jockey around them. Speed itself is not really dangerous, but add lane changes and you are adding unnecessary risk. And if you really want the CHP to ticket more speeders, then recognize that they can't get to them because YOU'RE IN THE WAY!!

Want to drive slow? wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:18 AM:Fine, just stay out of the passing lane. All you are doing is causing traffic jams and frustrating drivers when you drive slow in the fast lanes. Do us all a favor and take your vindictive attitudes somewhere else besides the road.

Jorge wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:18 AM:I looked at the website. They won't even accept e-mail, except for media-types, looking for a story. I used that address and let them know what a marvelous concept I thought they had come up with! NOT.

To the Left lane campers wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:23 AM:Those that camp here most of the time are going less then 65. They are the first to slow down when seeing a wreck on the other side of the freeway or anywhere as far as that goes. If you don't like tailgaters, don't like going over 65 get out of the way. Better yet if you asre so worried about gas, speeding etc. take the bus or walk. Just get out of the way! You can use any lane you like to the right and not be bothered. Campers cause accidents as people who want to go the speed limit have to go in and out of traffic to get by them. BTW the speed limit is 70 on a lot of freeways. Just move over and show some intelligence!

It's my sandbox... wrote on Jun 18, 2007 10:46 AM:...and thus I'll play in it how I want...Yada, yada, yada. The left lane is for passing folks, not cruising. If the lane is open on your right and you can move over, why not? Oh, that's right, because you want to police anyone that's coming up behind you because you know how to drive better than anyone else. My god, there are way too many people driving who "think" they are "better" drivers when really they are not. Rather than focusing on what others are doing, why not concentrate on your own driving? There are many times where people do cruise in the #1 lane going 55 in a 65 mph our zone. Using the #1 lane to pass and not cruise is called being a good driver. So, if you want to continue with the "I'm going to block you so you can't pass because you're speeding and that's against the law..." then fine, continue to behave like a two-year old (no offense to the 2-year olds out there). Obviously no reasoning will get you to grow up and act your age.

Stop being so Arrogant wrote on Jun 18, 2007 11:30 AM:It is in fact illegal to be in the passing lane if you are not - and I know this is a surprise - passing other cars. It doesn't matter if you are going the speed limit. Anyone going slower in the fast lane only causes faster drivers to get frustrated and weave in and out of traffic. That creates an unsafe situation for everyone - including the arrogant jerks that won't move over because they're going 65mph and think they own the road.

Freeway Suckers wrote on Jun 18, 2007 11:35 AM:your all suckers for commuting. Even bigger suckers for buying a house in Murreita when you work in Sorrento Valley.

esteban wrote on Jun 18, 2007 11:40 AM:Hey NCT...you think I have time to sit around all day and write comments for them not to be posted?

Wes wrote on Jun 18, 2007 11:49 AM:Just move the frick over and let us risk takers get to work and back. Stop trying to dictate my life. We get enough of that alreayd from the liberals in Sacramento. The signs says: Slower Traffic Keep Right - not; Slower Traffic Keep Right (unless you are already going the speed limit) Get over yourselves.

Common Sense wrote on Jun 18, 2007 11:57 AM:The "slower" drivers in the left lane(s) should look at controlling their own lives and not trying to control others. All of us can only work on ourselves. Also, it is just common courtesy - known as being polite - to move out of the way for others.

JK wrote on Jun 18, 2007 12:20 PM:Drivers must realize that driving on an overcrowded freeway is a group event that requires a certain amount of control and cooperation rather than an individual race to the next available open spot. Until then we will be cursed with stop and go rush hours. Smooth traffic flow requires that a minimum of variation in speed between cars be maintained, this is the only way to optimally use the available road space. I have for many years maintained a constant speed in the second from left lane that does not inhibit flow while many cars pass in the left lane(usually faster than the rest of the traffic)until the amount of cars exceeds the left lanes capacity. They then have to slow down starting a chain reaction of braking as people behind them brake to maintain a safe driving distance. These ripples turn into the unexplained non-accident caused slow downs you see every day and can last for hours. Regardless of what the lefties say, their lack of cooperative driving is not suited for rush hour traffic and is the cause for most traffic jams and their own complaint.

New for the speeders wrote on Jun 18, 2007 12:31 PM:Just like the CHP ignores you for breaking the law by speeding, it also ignores those of us who break the law by going the speed limit when others want to pass. I know, I've seen it many times. There are always two sides to every coin.

BLAH BLAH BLAH wrote on Jun 18, 2007 1:58 PM:If someone is behind you move over! Don't EVER hang out in the left lane unless you are passing. Why is that so difficult to understand????

Greg wrote on Jun 18, 2007 2:05 PM:Actually, the left hand lane is for passing, not cruising, so yes, you do exceed the speed limit a bit to get around the slower folk doing 50 in a 65. So no, we're no reckless, we just don't feel like having you set the acceptable speed in any lane. So if you don't like getting tail gated get out of the way, pure and simple. It's the holier than though drivers that cause more road rage than anyone else, if you were simply considerate and realize that not everyone wants to move at your pace, and get out of the way we'd have far less accidents since no one would have to drive like they're in NASCAR to get around you.

So Cal Commuter wrote on Jun 18, 2007 2:07 PM:If all of you busybody slow moving slugs who drive in the fast lane want to play traffic cop, then I suggest you contact the CHP...I understand that they are hiring. The #1 lane is the fast alne is its purpose is for passing slower moving traffic. Until you Mr. Magoo wannabes graduate from the CHP academy and put on the badge and uniform, YOU need to follow the law and OBEY the signs that read "Slower Traffic Move Right" Get it?

What a load... wrote on Jun 18, 2007 2:24 PM:I can be doing 80 in the one lane and there is ALWAYS someone who thinks I'm not going fast enough for them. All this talk about people doing 50-65 in the one is hogwash. JUST SLOW DOWN!

Commuter Tom wrote on Jun 18, 2007 2:57 PM: I often speed in the left lane. I will move if I am holding up traffic, but I will not for one clown with a move over sign. Who made him Sheriff. I am sure flip up "Bite Me!!" sign for the rear window can be purchased for less than $20.

Rechtsfahren wrote on Jun 18, 2007 3:23 PM:It's common sense. A system that would save all of us time, aggrevation and lives. In countries that drive on the right hand side of the road, faster traffic is to the left, slower to the right - all in a clockwise rotation. Thus, exiting and entering traffic doesn't risk collision with vehicles going too fast. Also, passing on the right wrecks this whole process and simply gets innocent people killed. The fact is, it's just too easy to get a license in this state/country. You can directly attribute the automobile deaths in the U.S. to inept drivers - period.

Ride Jay TWO's bumper wrote on Jun 18, 2007 3:42 PM:Sitting in the left lane is an awfully arrogant way to enforce a speed limit. It doesn't matter if you're doing 60 mph or 80 mph. If you can tell that somebody wants to pass you, move over to the right and shut up instead of trying to do CHP's job for it. Until then, you can expect me to ride your bumper, flash my brights at you repeatedly and cut you off once I finally get around you.

Congratulations wrote on Jun 18, 2007 3:47 PM:Congrats for abiding by the law, all of you left-lane campers. For better or worse, though, the other 90 percent of us have somewhere to be. If you'd just move over to the right, we could all get what we want -- you could drive 65 mph to set that great example for the four cats riding shotgun in your car, and the rest of us could drive 75 and 80.

AW4cryinoutloud wrote on Jun 18, 2007 6:17 PM:Vengeance was mine going up Cajon Pass (long, steep hill) years ago. I was in a Vette in the center lane flowing with the traffic. A jerk in a van decided he would get in front of me so I couldn't pass anyone. Then he made the mistake of moving to the left lane where you lose speed unless you drive a car with some guts to it. Aaaah Justice! I got in front of him, slowed to 45mph, forced him to slow, with no way to regain 65mph.. I looked in the rear view mirror to watch him having a spasm, waved bye bye, and punched it. So; when the vindictive Jay TWO's of the world pull something like that, wait for a hill if you can. It's great to leave them in the dust.

Chris wrote on Jun 18, 2007 7:00 PM:Personally, I couldn't care less if you're driving slow in the left lane. I'll just pass you on the right. BTW, Route 56 is the absolute worst for left-lane campers. Just take a look in the morning and you'll often see that the left lane is jammed and the right lane barely has any traffic. Simply amazing.

Street lawyer wrote on Jun 18, 2007 8:16 PM:For you righteous people wrote on Jun 18, 2007 8:32 AM: " You might want to read up on Calfornia Vehicle Code 21654(a)Slower vehicle, in left lane(s), as well as 22400(a) Minimum speed, impeding normal flow of traffic. " Now, why dont you play yet another street lawyer and read CVC 22349(a) "Except as provided in section 22356 (70 mph limits), no person may drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65mph." CVC 22349(a) takes precidence to CVCs 22400(a) and 22400 is also not applicable because "normal and reasonable" in the eyes of the law is THE LIMIT ESTABLISHED. Try to get out of a 22349(a) citation by telling the traffic Commisioner that "you were just passing a vehicle you thought was obstructing the normal flow." You will be convicted every time. GUILTY

carpooler wrote on Jun 18, 2007 11:14 PM:One reason for driving in the left lane (other than strictly to pass and then get back) is to be in position to move into a carpool lane when the "openings" come up and allow you to change lanes legally in or out of the carpool. Also, it is obviously not practical to have a whole lane of our overcrowded roadways dedicated only to passing. So someone (the faster moving traffic) needs to drive in that lane. The issue is who decides what that means? If we all used a bit of common sense and courtesy out there it won't matter. If I want to risk a ticket at 78mph and the guy ahead is doing 70, I can choose to move over and get around him. If the guy behind me seems bent on doing 90, I move over for him as I realize he's bearing down on me unless he moves over first. As long as the lane changes are done safely and carefully it's not worth raising your blood pressure over. The idiots who are racing, weaving dangerously, or driving under the influence of alcohol, sleep, exhaustion, or serious distraction are the ones who put us all in danger.

Flickering Brakelights wrote on Jun 19, 2007 1:05 AM:I brake for yellow arrows and slow down for tailgaters so save yourself the 29 bucks and follow quietly.

To Jay wrote on Jun 19, 2007 2:29 AM:It's great to know there are citizen cops impeding the flow of traffic. Get a life!

I hate tailgaters wrote on Jun 19, 2007 3:29 AM:It is true that too many cars are poking along in the second to left lane sometimes. It is also true that if you are in the number 1 or 2 lane already going a bit over the speed limit that some arrogant or unaware will come right up 10 feet behind you and tailgate with a high bumper pickup or SUV intentially to force you over under penalty of imminent death. I think those drivers should get a year in jail for doing that. OK one month for first offence, then two month actually spent in jail for second offence, four months for third offence, etc, AND have cameras along the freeway to record their threatening behavior and ID like red light cameras do. And while they are at it they could also send tickets to slow pokes in the fast lane.

esteban wrote on Jun 19, 2007 7:38 AM:I will drive as slow as I please in any lane I choose. Deal with it.

AW4cryinoutloud wrote on Jun 19, 2007 8:54 AM:Yep! I'm with "carpooler".....Is there a pun in there somewhere?

common sense wrote on Jun 19, 2007 9:31 AM:Slower traffic should be on the right. CHP should ticket those that impede traffic and swerve in and out of lanes. My front bumper sticker says SLOWER TRAFFIC MOVE RIGHT in a mirror image.

To the self righteous got nowhere to go, and all day to get there crowd: Who appointed you speed cop? wrote on Jun 20, 2007 12:04 AM:You have no idea what the person behind you is in a hurry for. Maybe they have a sick child or wife in labor in the car. Maybe they are trying to get home for a kids game. They may be a doctor, or a public safety officer, in a hurry to an emergency call in their personal vehicle. Even if they aren't and especially if they are, all you accomplish by playing rolling roadblock is an incentive to dangerous driving. If you have time to get to your destination, pull over. If there is room in the lane to your right, pull over. The 4 freeway lanes are, in order of left to right, for the following purposes: Passing, Car travel, truck/slow vehicle travel, exit and merging. If you actually read the driver's pamphlet, you'd know that. Leave speeding enforcement up to the cops, and OBEY THE LAW, which says: keep right except to pass: yourself!

esteban wrote on Jun 20, 2007 9:10 AM:To the self righteous guy with the long title...man, there sure are a lot of doctor's and people in labor in the fast lane these days!!!!!