CCUSA wrote on Jul 22, 2007 9:48 PM:All churches who choose to ignore the laws should lose their tax exempt status immediately.

LAWS WE OBEY, LAWS WE DON'T wrote on Jul 22, 2007 9:49 PM:http://www.nctimes.com/content/articles/2007/05/11/opinion/cartoon/thornhill/thornhill051107.jpg

The Catholic Bishop's Lobby wrote on Jul 22, 2007 9:58 PM:In 2003, as part of a 'Justice for Immigrants' campaign, the Catholic Bishops of Mexico and the United States issued A Pastoral Letter Concerning Migration from the Catholic Bishops of Mexico and the United States. The letter is a script for the arguments of pro-illegal immigration advocated (yes, the Letter uses the required labels of 'racist' and 'xenophobic' in paragraph 80) . The letter clearly requests legalization of all illegal immigrants: 'Legalization represents sound public policy and should be featured in any migration agreement between the United States and Mexico' (paragraph 70). Every American against illegal immigration must review this letter (it is on the internet). Nations that follow the advice of the Catholic Church are often the very nations whose people are fleeing those nations. The United States would do well to more aggressively address the Catholic Church's position of providing a hope of a political solution that includes legalization of illegal immigrants.

Starving Mexicans? wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:01 PM:A pro-illegal immigrant supporters often claim that the families of illegal aliens would starve without the money being sent home. Interesting, there no news articles about deaths from starvation in Mexico. Is the starving families argument another strand in the web of deception?

R.D. wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:10 PM:I was a lifelong Catholic, at the same church who abused children. The same church that passed pedophile priests on to sexually abuse other children in other parishes, that ruined thousands of children's life's. The church who is breaking our laws by harboring illegal alien lawbreakers. If the church was doing what it is there for, which is preaching to its congregation, and not catering to their newest members the illegal aliens, and not breaking our laws, then there would be no protests. As it is the church should have its tax exempt status revoked. They can then register as lobbyists for the illegal alien lawbreakers.

Illegal Immigration is Immoral! wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:15 PM:I believe that illegal immigrations is immoral! There are only a few moral justifications for coming here illegally. For example, if a person is forced to emigrate from their home country as a refugee or an assylum seeker. Included in 'forced' would be wars, famine, fascism, etc. Take Mexico. There are no news reports of wars, famine, fascism, or the like. It appears that the current wave of immigrants from Mexico are merely looking to live a better life. Wanting to get 'rich' by living the 'American Dream' provides no moral justification for illegally entering the United States. It is not unusual for a person, lacking morals, to violate other laws. That unwillingness to voluntarily follow the law is one of the things that make this current illegal immigration invasion so costly to our civic order, institutions, and morals.

Minutemen Are Heros! wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:19 PM:A group called Gente Unida disrupted a meeting of the Friends of the Border Patrol in Mission Valley on September 17, 2005. The NCTimes reported the story here: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/09/18/news/top_stories/22_18_179_17_05.txt. A report by Jodi Baker of Fox 6 News shows the video (available on the internet). Go Minutemen! So-called angeles (of La Raza hate) have been intimidating Americans for too long on border issues! The Minutemen have stopped the unopposed violent demonstrations of Gente Unida and other similar violent groups. How did the Minutemen stop the La Raza violence. Because the police would not stop the violence of the Gente Unide crowd. However, once the Minutemen showed up, the police came in to stop the Minutemen, and the outrageous oppression of the Gente Unida crowd was also put under scrutiny. Video tapes of police deference to La Raza violence finally embarrassed the police to action. Go, go, go -- Minutemen! Your presence in the only thing that get the police into action.

La Raza Cosmica wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:26 PM:35 years ago, socialist Chicanos imagined the fable of Aztlan. Read 'The Plan of Aztlan'. It is a fable of hate and racism. It is a fable because California was never part of Aztlan. The California indians never migrated to Mexico City. Never! Further, nearly all Mexicans stayed in California and became Americans after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The are no displaced native Californianos in Mexico. But radical Chicanos created this fable of hate and racism for teaching young native latinos and illegal immigrants in order to get them to believe that California was unjustly stolen from La Raza. The fruits of this indoctrination fable can be viewed by searching for 'raging racist' on the internet. Illegal immigration must be stopped until the Plan of Aztlan, Brown Power, and La Raza hate groups are exposed, marginalized, and immigrants can come without being seduced by fables of hate and racism.

White Crosses Of Aztlan wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:37 PM:There is a person who loves Aztlan and sets out white crosses. The white crosses represent martyrs (really foreign invaders) for the cause of Aztlan. Watch out for the white crosses of Aztlan. Border wolves, coyotes, and devils use the white crosses to mark their incursions into the territory of the United States.

Angry Fallbrook Catholic wrote on Jul 22, 2007 10:44 PM:For those that don't know, most Fallbrook residents and most Catholics do not support this church's day labor center. This illegals get help all morning at the church, but they live in our communities and crowd into apartments and commit a lot of crime. I have caught illegals in my garage at night and had to chase them out. Fallbrook is getting infested with illegals and St. Peters is only making it worse. Bravo Mr. Schwilk and SDMM patriots for standing up for us residents! We support you!

Vista Legal Citizen wrote on Jul 23, 2007 5:46 AM:With the Catholic Church breaking so many laws [They are paying $600 million in L.A. to keep priests from going to jail for molesting 500 children.] its no wonder the Catholic Church is losing it's American citizen base. But shoring it up with illegal aliens is breaking federal law, this is not the way to go. The Church needs to set a good example and obey American laws just like it's law biding American citizens do. Close the day laborer center/business, the one fifty feet from the child care center/business, and obey American laws.

Semper Fi wrote on Jul 23, 2007 6:23 AM:Sorry, but Jeff Schwilk is a liar, "peaceful protesters" their is nothing peaceful about their protests. The only ones dividing our communities by this issue is he and his ilk. Has he seen Claudia Smith and Tina Jillings drive the buses that he alleges bring these students to the site? Again lies and fabrication. That is the only thing he and his ilk are capable of lies and more lies. I saw the alleged attack of the hostile minuteman, and I think he was one who provoked this attack. In my opinion the man acted in self-defense and my only question is why was the peaceful minuteman not arrested. Unfortunately this man did exactly what the minutemen wanted him to do. Unfortunately they do not care about the safety of their own members because they are willing to sacrifice that safety if they can muster the sympathy of the American people. I for one am not fooled by this group of vigilantes and I am totally against their method. This is no longer about immigration legal or illegal this is about hurting people and I as an American am completely against anyone who does that type of thing to any person. This has become an attack on the Latino community and it is obvious that these characters have become so desperate to "win" if that is possible in this situation that they are ready for blood. I hope the Sheriff's Deputies are on notice of the extent these men are willing to go to "win".

Look at the whole picture wrote on Jul 23, 2007 7:03 AM:Well sure I agree with Jeff but I see the churches roles even deeper. Southern California does not need a mafia because the white-collar criminals are inside the churches. Like a famous preacher once said, brethren Satan goes to church and he sits in the front seat. Most churches here elect political leaders, key city officials, and key administrative positions within every PUBLIC AGENCY. This way they keep control of US the little guys. If we dare criticize they team up and discredit us. So where do we go Jeff? I wish all these churches would loose their 501C3 tax exemptions. It is just like Jesus said; there are churches that are like cave for robbers and all the vile things in the world.

Jay wrote on Jul 23, 2007 7:38 AM:Semper Fi- I have seen Tina and Claudia organize the San Marcos College and Cal State students. Unfortunately, you are the one who does not know what you are talking about. The professors actually are in the middle of everything but they stay behind the scenes. I know them personally!!!

Jerry M wrote on Jul 23, 2007 7:52 AM:Is the city of San Diego so lacking in courage and leadership they permit a hypocrite so-called religious leader to thumb his nose at the system? Not only is the Catholic Church breaking civil laws but God's laws also. Romans 13:1-3 Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. 3 For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Get off your duffs Mayor, councilmen and do your duty. The rest of the nation is sneering at your cowardice.

Last sentence says it all wrote on Jul 23, 2007 8:04 AM:Since when is SDMM "San Diego's largest American civil rights group"? What a hoot! That sentence is even funnier than Jeff Schwilk pretending to speak on behalf of Fallbrook residents, church members, and, of course, "most Americans". If SDMM is a "civil rights group", then so is the KKK. Civil rights for "Americans" (define according to taste).

Vigilatism Will Save This Country wrote on Jul 23, 2007 8:37 AM:First things first: Jeff, thank you for the column and for your efforts as the founder of the San Diego Minutemen. There is nothing racist about being against illegal immigration nor are the San Diego Minutemen anti-Latino. They are simply acting the best interests of this country. I agree wholeheartedly that the church needs to lose its tax exemption if it breaks laws. Same with churches all over the country who hide illegal acts. To "Semper Fi:" How is it self-defense to break someone's camera? Oh, and your name is a misnomer... you're anything but faithful to your country. Regardless of intended sarcasm or irony, it is shameful that you posted under that phrase. Vigilantism will save this country because the politicians cannot and will not. Corruption and greed are the order of the day and it seems that every politician will do whatever it takes to get elected and stay elected.

This is sad to see wrote on Jul 23, 2007 8:49 AM:Jeff, you are doing a great job protecting our country regarding this issue. Our Mexican President along with others in our corrupt government, are doing nothing to protect its citizens. St. Peter's church is breaking U.S. law, however they try to spin it.

Marie wrote on Jul 23, 2007 8:53 AM:I think its just sad that the Catholic Church is using its position to justify ignoring the law! There are substantial problems here from the illegal immigration situation and unless we get it under control this world is going to be in serious trouble! I find it appalling that we as a country are not binding more together to fight whoever is getting paid in gvernment fighting really taking action to stop this problem that is a topic of conversation worldwide daily - yet still exists!

Ron wrote on Jul 23, 2007 8:54 AM:One question: If I don't pay my taxes, can the church give me sanctuary too? $50 bucks says the IRS will have their storm troopers picking me up. What'd ya say?

Sally wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:03 AM:To Semper Fi-I belong to no organization. But my country is being split by people such as you who support illegal activity. How any true American can excuse the criminal activity of stealing into my country and stealing identities and driving without a license or insurance and expecting free health care and education for their kids--there is no excuse. Do you have children? Do you ever say no to them? Or do you let them run wild the way you think all illegals have the "right" to do? And if you do teach your children right from wrong, how do you justify your support of illegal alien criminal activity?

Irony of Democracy wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:08 AM:It is interesting that the Catholic Church is protecting illegal immigrants at a time when huge judgements are being awarded to victims of priestly pedophilia. Are they hoping to attract a whole new tithing parishoners to pay these settlements? Sounds a little like the Decider making the determination that granting amnesty to illegals would be the way to shore up social security!

Morones Gives Communion? wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:43 AM:I went to St Paul's website and there is a picture of Morones giving communion at a Protestant church along with Rev. Moreno! Apparently Enrique didn't get the memo from the Pope that said all other churches are defective and not real. I gotta think Mr. Border Devil is going to be in a lot of hot holy water now! Even his 4000 little white crosses can't save him from this scandal! Enrique busted giving Communion at a Pretest mass. WOW! Is this guy a dope or what?

Hey Semper Lie wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:48 AM:Your Hispanic pro-illegal Vigante attacked our Hispanic Minuteman! Its all over You Tube for the world to see. Why to you lie? Are you so desperate for reconquista that you can't help yourself? You lost your amnesty, ICE raids are increasing 10 fold, Americans want their country back, and your dream of turning our country into a socialist, communist state has failed. No one wants to harm illegals, we just want the to go home to their wives and kids. You want them to stay and help colonize. YOU are the evil one!

Robin wrote on Jul 23, 2007 10:05 AM:This political church is should be subjed to immediate and FULL taxation. In addition, this church should be workman's comp on each day laborer and be responsible for all and ANY tax evasion or worker abuse engaged in by employers.

Wesley wrote on Jul 23, 2007 11:52 AM:Let the churches pay the social costs of illegal immigration, the next 911, etc. IRAQ'S LEARN SPANISH BEFORE CROSSING TO AMERICA! Page 29 of report by Homeland Security on Senator Mc Cauls 10th District Texas website

he must be kidding wrote on Jul 23, 2007 11:57 AM:Schwilk really expects us to believe his stuff? For one thing, people who hire day laborers are NOT required to ask for citizenship papers. It's the law, Jeff. To say otherwise is just untrue. All those felonies you say St. Peter's commits are bogus lies. Another thing, the parishioners of the church and other outsdide supporters have been specifically asked not to protest against Schwilk and his Orange county outsiders by Father Kaicher. After the ridiculousness of Kiana Garcia claiming he was attacked (after spraying mace at a family in their car), the church wants to tone down outside support in order to lessen the risk of confrontation and hope the Minutemen will just fade back into their holes. We are talking about a Catholic Church here, Jeff. Again, it is NOT a crime to hire ANYONE for day labor. We as citizens have absolutely no right to judge for ourselves whether someone is a legal resident of this nation based on whether they look "Mexican" or not. Go away, Schwilk.

RG wrote on Jul 23, 2007 12:05 PM:Thank you Jeff and your Minutemen for trying to restore some law and order to this country. Shame on this church for condoning illegal activity. Whoever is posting as Semper Fi is not fooling anyone with his facade.

escondidoguy wrote on Jul 23, 2007 12:18 PM:It's amazing how people like Jeff are denegrated for simply pointing out lawbreakers. These days that patriotic gesture is called racist hatred. Daniel webster must be rolling in his grave to hear how our language has been abused by political agendas.

EXCOP wrote on Jul 23, 2007 12:20 PM:The Catholic Church (of which I am a lifelong member)is totally misguided on the subject of "social justice". Rather than violate the laws of our nation the Church's efforts should be directed at improving conditions in Mexico (and elsewhere) so that there will be less reason for people to come here. Unfortunately like too many other institutions in our society the Church cares more about political correctness than true morality.

Patriot wrote on Jul 23, 2007 12:34 PM:There is a big difference between a church providing a mass in a language other than English as an outreach to newly arrived legal immigrants and a church operating a labor service for a group of people the church should reasonably know lacks the legal right to work in this country.

La Raza is Dead! wrote on Jul 23, 2007 1:34 PM:Claudia and Tina have lost. They tried so desperately to spread their socialism in North County, but no one is buying it. Orderly legal immigration is what we demand and its what we will get. That means a secure border fence, more BP and ICE agents, and more enforcement against illegal aliens who think this is part of Mexico. Looks like Enrique Morones will be out of a job soon. He's still stinging from the removal of his 400 man illegal alien village in Penasquitos. His days are numbered as an anarchist anti-American rebel here in San Diego!

Randy wrote on Jul 23, 2007 2:00 PM:I bet the Church is losing its followers..Do not donate money to this church..It believes it is above the laws of this Nation.. If I was close to the Church I would be there Protesting. But Florida is a ways away.I believe All Churches should stay out of Politics and should set an Example By following the laws of this Great Nation..

Common Sense wrote on Jul 23, 2007 2:24 PM:It is well known that when a particular political position is morally bankrupt, the advocates of such positions (in this case illegal immigration) resort to slander and lies in order to intimidate their opposition. This tactic is tired and old and most reasonablly intelligent people don't fall for it anymore! A case in point was this newspaper's reporting that the protesters at St. Peter's disrupted a funeral and a child's first communion. If I'm not mistaken, a correction was later printed indicating that no such thing had actually occurred. No matter, keep repeating a lie loud and often enough and it becomes true. Also, can someone explain to me why it is my moral obligation to compensate for Mexico's corrupt government? No one, not even those who advocate for illegal immigration would tolerate a stranger boldly breaking into their house, going to their refrigerator and helping themselves to whatever is in it simply because the intruder says it is accepatable to do so. A nation, like a house, is a sovereign place, and laws are instituted to protect that sovereignty. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in serious need of a reality check, churches included!

Hey Randy wrote on Jul 23, 2007 2:44 PM:Since Bush seems to feel that he is above the laws of our nation, why shouldn't everyone else?

Just, wrote on Jul 23, 2007 4:36 PM:Take away their tax exempt status!

American Man wrote on Jul 23, 2007 4:55 PM:Listen Up: All the implied troubles begin simply because These Illegal Inadsers and their supporters choose to be confrontational - PERIOD! They should not be here. If they go back home the Patriots would no longer be seen in front of the Church. There is no justification for Invaders in Our Country. Show prejudice towards all Illegal Invaders of all origins and make them want to go home.

To American Man wrote on Jul 23, 2007 5:56 PM:You are quite probably the most exquisite example what is wrong with the minutemen, except schwilk.

Nancy wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:41 PM:It always amazes me that Guatamalan immigrant Claudia Smith continues to undermine the labor and immigration laws of this country while demonizing patriotic American citizens. Her hero Cesar Chavez would not have approved of her tactics and goals. Even more disgusting is Claudia's pretense of being a religious advocate for the less fortunate. What an ingrate Claudia Smith is.

Please don't give me... wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:51 PM:the "Render on to Caesar's that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's" crap. If that were the rule, we Christians would still be meeting in underground cellars with fish painted over the opening. Sometime, in the name of Jesus Christ, Christians must stand up against government, and that what is happening when churches question the immigration laws. In the end, I will be happier accepting my eternal fate by how I followed the laws of God, rather than to how I attempted to defend the laws of man. Amen and Amen.

Lupe wrote on Jul 23, 2007 10:41 PM:I went to protest St. Peters on Saturday with my handicap son. I parked in the handicap parking in order to take out his wheelchair. Two women from the chruch came up to me and said I could not park in the church's handicap parking if I did not have church business. I moved my car. I guess "Church Business is breaking Federal law, by helping illegal aliens break the law." I use to be a Catholic, the church is what gave me my foundation in living life. Their slipping into helping law breaks finally drove me and thousands of Catholics from the church. I will be out there again next week protesting immoral behavior.

American Man wrote on Jul 23, 2007 10:45 PM:Oh yeah; every day many Illegal Aliens perpetrate awfull deeds against many decent Human Beings. They don't belong here. When it happens to you, I'll bet You change your mind, SELFISH!

Alf wrote on Jul 24, 2007 8:06 AM:It would appear that "American Man" has forgotten that the PEOPLE who are illegal aliens ARE HUMAN BEINGS! Either that or he has been using the old "that isn't a person, it's just something I call "the enemy"" thinking in order to do things that, if he acknowledged that they are human, he could not in good conscience do, lack of reasoning. Sad. Such hate eats one alive. Alf, a Libertarian.

To Nancy wrote on Jul 24, 2007 8:23 AM:What is an "ingrate"?

To illegal immigration is immoral!!!! wrote on Jul 24, 2007 11:59 AM:Once again let me say the immoral act of advertising in a mail order bride magazine is just as immoral as illegal immigration.

Catholic Bishop's Letter wrote on Jul 24, 2007 2:26 PM:In 2003, as part of a 'Justice for Immigrants' campaign, the Catholic Bishops of Mexico and the United States issued A Pastoral Letter Concerning Migration from the Catholic Bishops of Mexico and the United States. The letter is a script for the arguments of pro-illegal immigration advocates (yes, the Letter uses the required labels of 'racist' and 'xenophobic' in paragraph 80) . The letter clearly requests legalization of all illegal immigrants: 'Legalization represents sound public policy and should be featured in any migration agreement between the United States and Mexico' (paragraph 70). Every American against illegal immigration must review this letter (it is on the internet). Nations that follow the advice of the Catholic Church are often the very nations whose people are fleeing those nations. The United States would do well to more aggressively address the Catholic Church's position of providing a hope of a political solution that includes legalization of illegal immigrants.

Jimi wrote on Jul 24, 2007 2:45 PM:Hey, he must be kidding, it is a felony to employ an illegal alien. It is also a felony to aid and abet an illegal alien. That includes sanctuary actions of Catholic churches. However, selective enforcement of these laws have given you a false sense of legality. Once Bush is removed, this will change, until then, it's the people who will take their country back, one town, one city, one state at a time. The jig is up.

Bobby wrote on Jul 24, 2007 3:48 PM:How well Lupe stated what Church "business" seems to be nowadays.

Bobby wrote on Jul 24, 2007 4:16 PM:I have to post this because it is true and necessary. I appreciate Edward Sifuentes handling of this forum and the work he does to allow freedom of expression. Thank you Edward, whatever your views are on illegal immigration.

Repeat Offenders wrote on Jul 25, 2007 8:37 AM:It is a felony for any person, during any 12-month period, to knowingly hire at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that these individuals are unauthorized aliens. 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(3)(A)

To repeat offenders!!!! wrote on Jul 25, 2007 10:14 AM:Nice try but plesae read on. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. Isn't that just like you all giving half truths.

Repeat Offenders wrote on Jul 25, 2007 11:23 PM:I have read on. 'Nice try' is confused. The definition of 'employment' cited by 'nice try' is given in 8 CFR 274a.1(h) and is directed to the requirement that employers complete an I-9 form for employees. An employer does not need to complete an I-9 form for sporadic domestic employees working in a private home. An administration can form rational regulations that excuse exact enforcement of I-9 form requirements. However, that definition of employment is only for that part of the adminstrative law. The immigration statute is clear: a person who hires ten illegal aliens during a 12 month period, with actual knowledge that the individuals are illegal aliens, is committing a felony. The I-9 administrative regulations will not save the felon. Only the lack of enforcement of the law by corrupted US Attorneys stands between the immigration felons and prison!

To repeat offenders wrote on Jul 26, 2007 6:49 AM:It is called sporadic for a reason!!! I don't think anyone hires Day Laborers for more than one or two days, at least I dont'. I also do not have "actual knowledge that the individuals are illegal aliens," I look at this kinda like the military don't ask don't tell. Either way it is not yours or the minutemens place to tell me what I can and can not do at my home. I think America is still a free country. Since when do I have to answer to crazed lunatics just because they run around toting American flags does not make them more American than me.

Alf wrote on Jul 26, 2007 10:09 AM:Well, "To repeat offenders", I am glad that I do not live in Vista. If Encinitas ever manages to adopt an ordinance (doubtful) that requires those who hire day laborers to register, I will not register because my name, address and phone number will not fall into the hands of frothing lunatics, aka scum, aka sdmm. Alf, a Libertarian.

Alf is right on!!! wrote on Jul 26, 2007 10:43 AM:Good point!! I agree! They are crazed loonies.

Repeat Offenders wrote on Jul 26, 2007 12:07 PM:Are you hiring day workers to clean your bathroom, wash dishes and clothes, and vacuum the floors? Yard work is not "domestic" work, nor is it "IN a private home." That is why day workers are covered by the I-9 requirement. No one is telling you what YOU can do in your own home. However, society has concerns about the well-being of other people you bring into your home. You are not free to have a slave in your home. If you want to hire a person, you must comply with laws that have been formulated to protect the employee. It is rare that an employee abuses the employer. Instead, in the past, free Americans have employeed slaves in their homes, paid wages so low as to be a burden on society, injured employees and left society to bear the costs, and so on! Go ahead and be free in your home, just don't expect to sporatically hire day laborers, and leave society to bear the costs associated with your freedom. Just for you information, if you 'know' a person is an illegal alien, you are violating the law by hiring them! The sporatic domestic employee is just a exception to the I-9 requirements. It is not an exception to the employment prohibition. Knowingly hiring an illegal alien is always illegal!!!

To Alf wrote on Jul 26, 2007 12:14 PM:So you do own land? Are you registered to vote? If so, your name and address are of public record, available to all the frothing lunatics. I you don't want to be known, do not earn any money, shop only with cash, do not own land, boats, or automobiles, do not go to public schools, do not apply for any government benefits, do not use a telephone, do use a library, avoid utilities, and finally--do not get arrested (for vagrancy).

Alexa wrote on Jul 27, 2007 8:55 AM:I thought churches were supposed to be a place of sanctuary where all were welcome. According to the author, thats not the case. I understand that people who are illegal aren't supposed to be "harbored' by churches but what good will it do to deny them any rights? We as a country took the land over from the Indians. We stole it, we werent citizens. Christopher Columbus killed millions of Indians for us to have this land, why cant we share it?

Alf wrote on Jul 27, 2007 9:27 AM:Yes, "to Alf", I do own land, an registered, voted, have a driver's license and many other things. My point is that I will not put information in a place where sdSCUMm can attempt to use it to harass me even though the workers that we have come in once in a while are quite legal. My property is my sanctuary and the sdSCUMm will not enter it, lest I do that for which I was trained many years ago. Alf, a Libertarian.

Libby wrote on Jul 27, 2007 6:19 PM:To Alf, I search the internet for 'Alf' and 'Libertarian'. Quite a bit of information about Alf the Libertarian is available on the net. Also, a scan the the Libertarian Party's website found this, 'The Libertarian Party has long recognized the importance of allowing free and open immigration, understanding that this leads to a growing and more prosperous America. We condemn the xenophobic immigrant bashing that would build a wall around the United States.' No wonder the Libertarian Party is so small. Do you realize there are over 1 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians. Having open immigration is not a very bright idea!

Madmomma wrote on Jul 28, 2007 10:29 PM:Have you ever needed emergency medical attention and couldn’t get served in time to save your limb because there were too many illegal aliens entering in the emergency entrance to get free medical? I have. Seven hospitals in L.A. county went bankrupt last year due to abuse like this. Why doesn’t the church put their money where their mouth is and let these freeloaders burden religious hospitals.

Blunderbuss wrote on Jul 29, 2007 12:21 PM:Alexa said; "Christopher Columbus killed millions of Indians for us to have this land, why cant we share it?" Christopher Columbus was sent by the King&Queen of Spain - take it up with Spain (besides, your fibbing, even for the Spanish, 'ol Chris wasn't THAT prolific of a KILLER)... also, if you want to SHARE, you should set a good example and give YOUR house and all YOUR property to the first illegal invader you see, and find out how much they are willing to share with YOU... OK? Have a nice day!

Alf wrote on Jul 29, 2007 4:26 PM:Well, "Libby", I guess you found me, almost. I started by using my first name, Ken, but there was a "Ken" here before me. So I switched to Al, my middle name, but there was an "Al" before me. "Al" suggested Alfie, but I don't like the diminutive of my name in any variation, so I went to "Alf" as my handle. I am a Libertarian because there is no other party that is as close to my AS LITTLE GOVERNMENT AS POSSIBLE philosophy. I am therefore a Libertarian in its truest sense. Alf, a Libertarian.

Meth Kills Today wrote on Jul 29, 2007 5:08 PM:Read about the effect of Meth on the Indians today: www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/05/01/news/nation/13_06_494_30_07.txt It is amazing to read that one member of a Mexican drug gang can devastate an entire indian community!!! Close the Border!!!

What? wrote on Jul 29, 2007 6:23 PM:Columbus killed millions of Indians, are you kidding? He certainly did not. And there were not millions of Indians where he was. Jeez! read some history!

Campaign Manager wrote on Jul 29, 2007 9:36 PM:Hint to Alf, to get elected, Progressive Democrats hide out in the Democrat Party and Libertarians hide out in the Republican Party.

Reardon wrote on Jul 29, 2007 10:39 PM:Alf: Question? There is apparentoly a debate among real-left politicians regarding privacy on the Net. One group of Democrats holds that if a Terrorist in County A is on the net with a Terrorist in Country B (neither of which is the USA), but the e-mails travel through US computers, then a federal warrant is needed for an intercept. Where do you stand?

Alf wrote on Jul 30, 2007 8:07 AM:"Reardon", your Jul 29, 2007 10:39 PM post asks a question that on the surface seems silly, but it is not. Why is communication going through America? Even without knowing why, Ill try to rephrase your qusstion - If the U.S. allows something to flow through it, say a gas or oil or water line, are we allowed to "tap in" whenever we want without permission? If someone buys an easement to run their water through your property then they "own" that land and the pipes in it or at least the thing(s) going through it. Since the "pipes" you refer to are American computers and lines, unless there is prior agreement to allow "tapping off" , the answer is NO, the federal government MAY NOT INTERCEPT ANYTHING WITHOUT A WARRANT. That is my opinion. Alf, a Libertarian.

No way wrote on Jan 24, 2008 3:45 PM:that is all ,wrong people should come to the U.S even if it does mean coming illegally becuase all of them are coming from war struck countries and they are trying to better thier lives for thier famailies