Dutch Catholic bishop suggests calling God Allah
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THE HAGUE, Netherlands -- A Dutch Catholic bishop who once said the hungry were entitled to steal bread and advocated condom use to prevent AIDS has made headlines again, this time by saying God should be called Allah.
"Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will call God Allah?" Bishop Tiny Muskens said in an interview broadcast this week. "God doesn't care what we call him."
In this nation where religious tolerance has been eroded in recent years by a rise in radical Islam, the comments drew little support.
Muskens, bishop of the southern Diocese of Breda, previously created a stir by suggesting the hungry could steal bread to feed themselves. He also supported the use of condoms as a way of reining in the spread of AIDS and suggested popes have term limits of 10-15 years and an age limit of 85.
In an interview broadcast on Monday's edition of current affairs show "Netwerk," Muskens said he had worked in Indonesia where God is referred to as Allah in Christian services.
But a spokesman for one of the capital's leading mosques said he was not happy with the statement.
"We didn't ask for this, a spokesman for the Moroccan Mosque in Amsterdam told De Telegraaf. "Now it is as if we have a problem between Muslims and Christians."
Gerrit de Fijter, chairman of the General Synod of the Dutch Protestant Church, also rejected Muskens' suggestion.
"I applaud every attempt to encourage dialogue with Muslims, but I doubt the sense of this maneuver," De Fijter told De Telegraaf.
Neither De Fijter nor Muslim community leaders returned calls seeking comment Wednesday.
Speaking to a local television network Wednesday, Muskens said he was pleased his comments had sparked debate.
"That they are interested in how to get along with God, that is a positive result," he told Omroep Brabant.
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God wrote on Aug 16, 2007 9:56 AM:Children, name me whatever you like, I am the same god for all who wish to recognize there is a supreme being
Buster wrote on Aug 16, 2007 11:30 AM:Why should I address my creator with the name that applies to a figment of a pedophiles wasted mind?
John wrote on Aug 16, 2007 11:57 AM:Allah is the name of a mid-East moon god, hardly an appropriate name for God. God has several names, check the Bible. Allah is never mentioned in the Bible, God's message to us. God sent His Son, Jesus,to die for us, so we could live with Him forever. Hardly Allah's plan, death to the infidels.
sue wrote on Aug 16, 2007 12:09 PM:how about if Muslims refer to allah as Jesus? If this priest is looking for a "beautiful" name for God, Jesus is the most beautiful name there is.
Daryl wrote on Aug 16, 2007 12:20 PM:Call God - Allah, and then Rape - casual sex, and then Evil - good, just give up your values so people who want to kill you will have just a little less of a reason to kill you, although they will still find a reason to hate and kill, what ever you call God.
Lots of misconceptions. wrote on Aug 16, 2007 1:03 PM:"Allah" is simply the Arabic translation for the word "god," though Muslims use this as a proper noun to address their god. It's no different than the distinction between "god" and "God." There's no reason to take an Arabic word and put it into the English language. I have no problem with Christian Arabs using the word Allah to mean God, but when we start to use someone else's word when we have a perfectly good one in English just to appease them (that they apparently didn't ask for), then this is just silly.
To John wrote on Aug 16, 2007 1:24 PM:Of course Allah isn't in the Bible ... Islam didn't "become" a religion until the 7th century. By that time, the "Bible" had undergone most of it's revisions and editing, including the rearranging of Psalms, and was a fairly complete product. I guess what your saying is akin to religious NIMBY-ism. "Your" religion was first, so it's the official one. I address my creator as either Mom, of Dad. I'm glad I'm an athiest!
Ace wrote on Aug 16, 2007 1:40 PM:The God I worship, the true God, is not Allah. The real LORD is three persons in One. He died and was raised for me. I refuse to call him by the name of some heathen god for the sake of appeasing a fanatical religion that only wants to kill me and destroy my country. And even if for some idiotic, liberal reason we did decide to start using "Allah," they would still want to kill us. The only time when they will not want to kill us is when they have utterly dominated us.
Athiest wrote on Aug 16, 2007 2:15 PM:I do not like religion, I don't believe in a god and I believe in evolution. I've been an athiest for as long as I can remember. People can have good values without a god.
Jim - Oklahoma wrote on Aug 16, 2007 3:37 PM:Another Catholic Bishop is stepping down in order to help Christianity - hmmm - probably a good thing for Catholicism and Christianity - Apparently The Ineffable Name is only an illiterate shepherd lost in the desert - Islam, the religion of peace and I am the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus all rolled up into one . . . L'chaim and Pax Vobiscum!
Jan wrote on Aug 16, 2007 6:26 PM:From the word of God, I can guarantee this Bishop Muskens is not a Christian! If we all remember correctly, Jesus said in the end, "every knee shall bow and e- very tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord." (Not Allah, or anyone else!) I can't believe this guy is will- ing to compromise his "faith" for these radical idiots. But, like I just said, he is no christian.
Eric wrote on Aug 16, 2007 6:56 PM:A rose by any other name is still a rose. But, a god by any other name who has different attributes is still not God.
Buddy wrote on Aug 16, 2007 7:29 PM:I found it rather interesting that this so-called Catholic Bishop is supposedly representing what Catholics should do. If God doesn't care what we call Him, then the Muslims can call allah, God. I also found it quite amusing that his last comment stated God instead of he, himself calling his god, allah.
Alex wrote on Aug 16, 2007 8:00 PM:Wow, all these comments about who God is. Well, my King James Version calls God Almighty "Jehovah." My Catholic version calls him "Yahweh." Either one is the anglicized version of the God of Israel. The Jews don't believe in a trinity God, do they? I think Mohammed knew that.
Daryl wrote on Aug 16, 2007 8:07 PM:We are all the same essence yet in separate bodies and will all return to the force from whence we came. No need to play with each other's heads- if you hurt me you hurt yourself because we are all one in the end. Look around- life only occurs around the outer layer of earth. This is why Christ taught us to love your neighbor as yourself. Those who let evil command their souls hopefully will become termites. This is all I have to say.
John wrote on Aug 16, 2007 9:12 PM:The Bible says, the devil came to kill, steal and destroy. I don't about you, but this reminds me of a faith that is slowly working it's way into our country. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.
Dagny wrote on Aug 17, 2007 9:13 AM:"Allah" is not the Arabic translation for "God." It is a name, the translation for "the One who is God." Christians should not call their god "Allah" the same as Muslims should not call their god "Jesus."
Michael wrote on Aug 17, 2007 10:16 AM:I hope that the Vatican has pulled this rouge priests pulpit plug. How about we Christians just impose a tax and convert Muslims, as they have done to our Christian brothers and sisters all over the world? They have even crucified, tortured, and killed our faithful in the name of THEIR allah. It may not be apparent to this priest, but it is to me that Chrisitans and Jews worship a different GOD than Muslims are able to even approach an understanding of. God and Allah the same? I think not!
To John 9:12 wrote on Aug 17, 2007 4:50 PM:You wrote "this reminds me of a faith that is slowly working it's way into our country" I'm sure that's what the Romans said when this upstart named Jesus came through town!
Smoke on the Water wrote on Aug 19, 2007 7:51 AM:Allah is the name of the "god" that they believe. God in the Bible has GIVEN HIMSELF His names (Including Jehova and Yahweh). Giving a name has a metaphor behind it saying "I have control over your life". That is why God and Jesus gave people different names to people in the Bible (i.e. Abram to Abraham) when He wanted them to do His bidding. If we give God a name, it is saying that we are more powerful than Him. Bishop Tiny Muskins has a serious spiritual problem...
billy m. wrote on Sep 5, 2007 1:09 AM:" Allah is the name of the "god" that they believe. God in the Bible has GIVEN HIMSELF His names (Including Jehova and Yahweh). Giving a name has a metaphor behind it saying "I have control over your life". That is why God and Jesus gave people different names to people in the Bible (i.e. Abram to Abraham) when He wanted them to do His bidding. If we give God a name, it is saying that we are more powerful than Him. Bishop Tiny Muskins has a serious spiritual problem... "
Sam wrote on Sep 7, 2007 12:07 PM:Lets' all get it correct and turn to Ps.83:18 were you will see that the almighty God is called Jehovah or Yahweh. Never did Jesus refer to himself as almighty God. He always gave credit to his father were due. They are not one as many religions teach today.
Paul. wrote on Jul 25, 2008 10:39 PM:AS A Former Catholic & sunday School teacher. Jesus spoke Aramaic. and called his God Allah. he also called God Abba meaning Father. God has Many names. Every Language has a Different name for God, The word God is only a Generic name for any Deity & not for any special Deity . The best way to Honor God the Father is to Pray to Him and only Him and Love him wth all your Heart & Soul and obey the laws he Gave to Moses. Peace be with you.
Paul.M , EX Christian & EX Catholic
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