Two men arrested in connection with Bonsall rape, stabbings
By: North County Times Wire Service | ∞
BONSALL -- Two men were arrested Sunday in connection with raping a woman and and stabbing her more than 75 times in a remote area near Bonsall.
Roommates Edgar Gomez, 23, and Cirilio Martinez, 20, were arrested at 6:35 a.m. by San Diego County sheriff's detectives and taken to the Vista Detention Facility.
Deputies said the men, both construction workers, are accused of luring a woman they knew to a remote spot in Bonsall, where Gomez allegedly raped her while Martinez allegedly stood as a lookout.
Sheriff's spokesperson Jan Caldwell said the alleged rape and stabbing happened the evening of Sept. 17 on a dirt road near the men's shared home. Following the alleged rape by Gomez, Martinez is accused of pulling out a knife and stabbing the woman more than 75 times.
Most of the injuries were superficial, Caldwell said, but at least four stab wounds are 2 or more inches deep.
The men also allegedly kicked the woman until she faked unconsciousness and they ran from the scene, Caldwell said.
The woman flagged down help from a passing motorist following the alleged attack, and is recovering from her injuries, Caldwell said.
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Concerned-1 wrote on Sep 24, 2007 9:04 AM:There are a lot of unanswered questions here. I hope the invetigators dig a little deeper than NCT.-
Robert wrote on Sep 24, 2007 11:14 AM:I really think there is some important information missing from this story. Anyone care to guess what it is?
Syl wrote on Sep 24, 2007 12:31 PM:A horendous story like this and only one comment? Are you guys (NCT) trying to hide something again? It will be interesting to see the reactions when all of the other facts come out./
Horrible wrote on Sep 24, 2007 12:54 PM:What a horrible crime! How brave and courageous for this woman to survive and have these guys arrested. I sure hope she gets the help she needs. .../
Steve wrote on Sep 24, 2007 1:41 PM:She was extremely lucky these were inept perpetrators. Most would've made sure she was dead.
Tom wrote on Sep 24, 2007 2:05 PM:... How could ANYONE stab a harmless woman 75 times. Makes me sick. Society needs discipline and we need to start making some examples. /
Kyl wrote on Sep 24, 2007 6:13 PM:Hurry up ACLU come and protect their civil rights! What a shame that they could be found guilty and have to be responsible for their actions. I am sure you will find something to ensure their freedom and get them off.
Nick wrote on Sep 24, 2007 6:58 PM:Of course the Ed's are omitting a lot of blogs on this. So much for free speech even if it's within the rules of these blogs. NC Times Eds suck! You know you do!
Roberto1 wrote on Sep 24, 2007 9:17 PM:elmexican...don't spoil the phobies moment and opportunity to fan their brand of hate. Let them vent since we all know that illegals and middle eastern terrorist are one and the same...according to their ilk.
Skip wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:53 PM:Why does it not surprise me that of the few posts that got posted on a certan subject, that they all got deleted.=
Adam wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:06 PM:Since all of the posts regarding "country of origion, and legal status", were deleted, I must assume that the two suspects are actually United Stataes Citizens. At the very least I would expect the editor to make a statement as to why these posts have been deleted.
Reardon wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:12 PM:Perhaps the reporter should have called I.C.E. and asked them for their disposition of this case. Another case of incomplete reporting that leaves the reader with more questions than answers -- I can understand not updating the printed page, but not the electronic page.
Syl wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:45 PM:Another buried news story. Either all of the deleted posts were wrong, or the newspaper does not want this story to move to the Most Commented Secction and thus getting more exposure. What happened? Did Tina or Bill complain?
Skip wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:48 PM:Other news media are now describing these two men as Day laborers who frequented the Area.
Deleted Posts wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:37 PM:I agree. Our comments are being edited like they do in Russia. Only "approved" viewpoints will be printed by this newspaper. Truth is not what they seek. Agenda is.
Unsafe Neighborhoods wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:42 PM:Community should be alerted to WHO these CRIMINALS are and how do they operate in our community. Editor wants to DELETE the comments and HIDE the facts. Who and what are they protecting?
IRON CURTAIN wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:48 PM:Major deleting of our views on this story has occured and the public is AWARE Mr. Editors. No neighborhood watch here at NCT for sure. You are helping keep neighborhoods unsafe by muzzling us and hiding the facts.
Gary wrote on Sep 26, 2007 4:40 PM:It is too bad this story will never make the "MOST COMMENTED SECTION", because the NCT keeps deleting all of the posts.
Skip wrote on Sep 26, 2007 4:42 PM:And one more question how does someone with a big knife, and make 76 stab wounds, not kill someone? Now I am really curious at what really went on? Care to address that? And remember these guys are now called Illegal Aliens by the rest of the news media.
Gabriella S. wrote on Sep 26, 2007 4:51 PM:This is such a horrific crime. Why is there no information? Where is the outrage at this hate crime! They obviously hated her for being a woman. 75 stab wounds is as hateful as it gets!
KATHY wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:38 PM:THE NEWS RADIO IS CALLING THESE GUYS "UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANST" THAT IS "ILLEGAL ALIENS" TO ME.
Alf wrote on Sep 26, 2007 6:31 PM:The text of the article gives Hispanic surnames. Of course there will be the people who assume, who jump on the names as if Hispanic names equals illegal alien, and do so without ANY actual knowledge. These are the sort of people who make up the sdmm and their ilk, you know, hate groups who thrive on hate, eat hate for all three meals and all snacks, they are as repugnant to me as the ALLEGED perps. Regards, Alf.
Dear Alf wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:06 PM:Before my post got deleted, I pointed out that you can go to the San Diego Sheriff's WebPages and use the “Inmate Locator”, to find the charges against, and the location of any given prisoner (inmate). I did that, and low and behold after I entered both suspects’ names, they both came up with I.C.E. Holds on them plus their charges. Of course if you just wait a day or two and listen to other news media outlets they will simply describe these two "Day laborers" as "Undocumented Immigrants". That is "Illegal Aliens" in my book. So you see we are not so hate filled after all, and it was just simple logic. And you must ask yourself what kind of people would perpetrate a crime like this?
HELLO ALF! wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:08 PM:Both the radio and the TV are calling these men ILLEGAL ALIENS!
Greg in Oceanside wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:21 PM:A lot of rhetoric is being spewed by one particular reader. I side with "Dear Alf (7:06 post) so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it. These ILLEGAL ALIENS are exactly what I've been talking about in many of my posts. One of the main reasons I oppose ILLEGAL ALIENS is the quality of life they bring to our communities. ILLEGAL ALIENS rarely have ‘roots’ like most of us and come here with a 'take' attitude combined with lawless behavior. They also don’t want to fit into our society or abide by social norms. They come here with vastly foreign attitudes and expectations. ILLEGAL ALIENS come here thinking our streets are paved with ‘milk and honey.’ Most work under the table and don’t pay taxes. They send billions to their relatives in places like Mexico and beyond. Do they hurt our economy? You bet, in more ways than imaginable. Oh sure, we're going to hear that same idiotic statement of how 'illegal immigrants come here to work.' I don't buy it, and I'm very, very concerned at what ILLEGAL ALIENS really bring to the table...or shall I say 'what ILLEGAL ALIENS are taking from the table.' You be the judge, but I'm a concerned US citizen who's had enough.
Alf wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:08 AM:Well, "Greg in Oceanside", I was unaware of the previous post by "Dear Alf", the one that got deleted. My point remains that "we" are reaching a fever pitch, a point that is very dangerous because the HATE spewed, the ASSUMPTIONS made, while sometimes correct, are still wrong. There are "innocent until proven guilty" and "rely on FACTS that are presented" mindsets that must rule the day. The "mob mentality" that precludes reasoned, rational thought is dangerous. Yes, I DO NOT WANT ILLEGAL ALIENS here, but I refuse to assume, as so many others do, that everyone with an Hispanic surname is an illegal alien whether they are being given a Nobel Peace Prize or being charged with rape. Regards, Alf.
Alf wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:21 AM:Well, "Dear Alf", what "kind" of people commit crimes? Charles Manson, a fine American name, was a leader of a pack of killers. John Wilkes Boothe, another fine-sounding name killed President Abraham Lincoln. Names, specifically names indicative of region, or whatever, give not one clue as to the honesty or law abiding nature of the person. Making an assumption based on a name is wrong more often than it is right. While, as you say, there are ICE holds on the two in question, that should NOT reinforce a wrong assumption that leads to broad generalizations. Please think about it. Regards, Alf.
Justice for all wrote on Sep 27, 2007 12:10 PM:Let us not forget that the Constitution applies to ALL persons within our borders. Let us not forget that ANY person charged with a crime is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.... and let us not forget that we all come from immigrants. Every single one of us - even if our direct ancestors were on the freakin' Mayflower.
Gary wrote on Sep 29, 2007 4:22 PM:This has to be one of the most censored blogs I have seen in quite awhile. Next to a story about a communicable disease, it is almost impossible to get a post in here and make it stick. NCT must have the attitude that we need protection from ourselves and too much free speech is not a good thing, if it hurts someone’s feelings or someone is deemed a racist for standing up to principles they believe in.
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