Gary wrote on Sep 30, 2007 11:46 PM:Don't judge the majority of US citizens by the actions of rouge SDMM. Just as we seem to have a government against the people, this newspaper (NCT) prints story after sob story in favor of the poor Illegal Aliens. The agenda is clear. If you believe in the rule of law, or the rights of American Taxpayers, you are branded a racist, bigot, or hate monger. Never mind that the vast majority of the citizens of this country want illegal immigration stopped and laws enforced. So who are you to tell us we are wrong, and why is our government ignoring us? The issue in this story is not about a flag, but on a very large problem that is affecting Americans all over this country.

Devvy wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:20 AM:You must put the faces of all these victims of this illegals invasion right in the faces of state legislators, these craven, cowards in Congress and our fellow Americans and quit with the bleeding heart nonsense. The bottom line is that employers want cheap labor and they're willing to break the law to get it and SHAME ON THEM. American employers don't want to pay a fair wage in industries like agriculture and construction. They want millions of uneducated, unskilled illegal workers and their offspring for cheap labor and for we the people to be forced to pay for their education, medical and massive incarceration costs.-

Callie369 wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:35 AM:Wearing an article of clothing with a picture of a flag has nothing to do with flag etiquette, That has to do with using an ACTUAL U.S. flag. As for wearing flag insignia, I guess our military and police departments all across the U.S. are wrong for wearing flag patches. Chatfield is just another liberal boo-hooing over ILLEGAL ALIEN LAWBREAKERS.-

Vistan wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:39 AM:The SDMM have started to mutate into an rouge organization. An idea that began as a way to draw attention to a rampant out of control problem has itself turned into a big part of the problem. Their reputation is now one of racism and bullying rather then one of change. If you recall the Minute Men began as a peaceful organization that drew attention to the stampede of illegal aliens crossing the border. Their job was to observe and notify the border patrol of groups crossing the border. And, by those tactics, get enough media coverage to spark comment from the public and our elected officials. Now, the SDMM, an offshoot of the parent organization has managed to tarnish the reputation of all the rest. They need to take action to fix the damage that has been done and get back on track OR they should be condenmed!-

Ron wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:38 AM:The majority of Americans want the existing immigration laws to be enforced, and when we voice this opinion, we are labeled "vigilantes", racists, xenaphobes, and bigots. It's an empty argument, it's a loser argument. When you don't have the law on your side, you advocate lawbreaking. It's really that simple. Sure, you have a few people who do stupid things, but this does not take away from the main argument, you do not have the right to enter this country without permission. If you do, you break the law. If you work here illegally, you break the law. If you use a stolen social security number to work, you break the law. If you take social services you are not entitled to, you break the law. And I gotta ask, what is the crime of placing a "flyer" on someone's screen door?-

Fallbrook Resident wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:11 AM:Nobody takes Schwilk and his gang seriously any more. Seeing him still kicking is actually great entertainment more than a serious political statement. At this moment, the only fuel that the SD Minutemen run off of is the lies Schwilk invents and is truly a sad sight to see. Fallbrook residents do not want another hate group in this small town and he can hardly muster more than 3 residents to join his gang on Saturday mornings. He thinks he'll win in the long run. We've got news for you Jeff, Fallbrook residents put up with Metzger for 30 years before he threw in the towel. And as unbelievable as it seems, you're a little tamer than he is. Get a life!-

To Ron wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:23 AM:Yes I want existing immigration enforced!!! But really is all this that the minutemen are doing really accomplishing that end? NO!! We must contact our legislators and not take matters into our hands. When we do that it is easy to step over line of rationality and truly without realizing it we become vigilantes, racists, bigots and just plain Un-American. Stop trying to defend the minutemen because you do sound like a racist.-

captain_drew wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:36 AM:Ms. Chatfeild wrote: " I researched U.S. flag etiquette and found no prohibition for individuals to fly another country's flag." I WONDER what her research consisted of; getting the opinion of her friend...Here's what the ACTUAL law SAYS, Gail. You give Aussies & Kiwis a bad name: US Code Title 36 Chapter 10 ?175. Position and manner of display No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or *in place of*, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: ...-

SHUT UP CLAUDIA! wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:46 AM:JEFF SCHWILK SERVED HIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 20 YEARS IN THE MARINE CORPS. YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED. DON'T TALK ABOUT MILITARY SERVICE YOU...-

Vigilantes? wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:53 AM:Vigilantes would ACTUALLY arrest illegal aliens and those who hire them. The Minutemen are activists, not vigilantes. And on that note, calling them a hate group or racist is so played-out ... So keep doing that, it's like walking around with a "KICK-ME" sign on your back.-

Fallbrook resident wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:02 AM:is one of VERY few Americans in Fallbrook who doesn't support what the Minutemen are doing at St. Peter's church. I'm sure they were VERY entertained by the rape and stabbing of a Vista woman right down the road in Bonsall. Metzger was/is a... hate monger of the Nth degree. These are hardly the tactics of "Schwilk and his gang," as THEY are multicultural AMERICANS, something Fallbrook Resident can't seem to understand.-

american FIRST wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:06 AM:I find what captain drew very interesting, based on his description alone, the san luis rey mission has been in violation for all the years I have lived here, I am emplyed as a service tech going from home to home business to business, and OVER 95% of the people I speak with want the borders closed & support the SDMM, yet are afraid of repercusions of the illegal supporters. As an independant observer ( I read from both sides of the issue ) I do see that the illegal supporters are showing desperation, as their cause is slipping away...-

My question wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:21 AM:How is it that NCT always talks about Jeff Schwilks private emails? How do the get and are able to comment on private emails. Is the Newspaper able to use the patriot act to get a story? Someone please answer how they are obtaining private emails. That would be interesting to me.

Inciting hate wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:53 AM:With phrases like this nonsense: "Could foreign flag harassment become the new cross burning?" who is really using tactics of fear? Just more fallacious distractions from the real news. As a Marine for 20 years I'm sure Jeff would love to see some of these folks put on the uniform. In doing so, maybe they would actually grasp the concept of the freedom they are busy destroying by their willful disregard for the rule of law.-

Clea wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:05 PM:Nice try Gail. Changing the debate to require a compromise is a cheap trick that America isn't going to fall for. There shall be NO COMPROMISE on whether or not ILLEGAL behavour should be rewarded. Violating the laws of our land is ILLEGAL and wrong. NO COMPROMIZING that FACT! Illegal aliens deserve nothing more or less than what the law prescribes, DEPORTATION. LEGAL immigrants are welcomed with open arms.-

Patriot wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:37 PM:These MM do not represent the vast majority of Americans with their behavior and their actions, yet the majority of Americans DO want our immigration laws enforced. Americans want reform but not at the expense of our humanity and compassion, AND not at the expense of law-abiding immigrants who play by the rules rather than demand amnesty for breaking them. Interestingly, the article mentions the DREAM Act. This is yet another attempt to excuse those who broke the rules and reward their entire families with legal status. What a slap in the face to all those who have waited or are currently waiting to immigrate legally!

Patriotic American wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:06 PM:Ms. Chatfield wrote "...chastising them for displaying a Mexican flag outside their home. It is, after all, National Hispanic Heritage Month". How would you like to endure the chstisement of the good residents of Mexico if you flew the American Flag alone in Mexico on American Independence Day, or say, Cinco de Mayo, the day that America helped Mexico throw off the shackles of the French warlords? Also, "I researched U.S. flag etiquette and found no prohibition for individuals to fly another country's flag." Number 1, Gail, you should stop using Enrique ... for your "research", and Number 2, Gail, we're talking about ETIQUETTE" not "PROHIBITION". Bad etiquette is not necessarily prohibited, just as your bad, biased, and stupid opinion-writing is not prohibited (but it should be, if you ask any patriotic American). Finally, Flag etiquette says that the 'Flag' should not be used as wearing apparel (like using the flag as a poncho or shawl) not 'flag-themed' clothing.

to Ron wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:28 PM:You are correct that it's probably not a crime to merely place a flyer on someone's door. But it is, as the 9-22 U-T editorial pointed out, un-American (anti-free speech) to tell someone they can't fly a Mexican flag on Mexican Independence Day. One of my many tee shirts has an Aztec calendar with the word Mexico below. It's my right to wear that shirt and fly any flag I wish. SDMM thinks free speech is only for them. They make a big show of displaying the flag, but they don't really believe in the freedoms it stands for. Somebody once said "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". Amen.

No. County Reader wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:14 PM:Why should we reward illegal immigrants by paying for their college education or forcing them to join the military ?!! Dangle a carrot and see how many more will come here illegally. What country allows illegal immigrants into their country without the proper paperwork Aka: passport in hand ?!! I can't think of any that would allow me to enter except the U.S.A. Allow the border patrol to do their job and deport any and ALL illegal immigrants regardless of their ethnicity or country of origin.

Flags on butts wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:55 PM:Callie369 is wrong in claiming that flag rules have nothing to do with clothing. They do, partly to prevent people from sewing flags on the rear of their pants and sitting on it. But SDMM insists that people follow the rules they want followed, while violating whatever rules they like. That's the definition of vigilante.

to SHUT UP wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:01 PM:Saying shut up is rude and un-American, and all caps is the sign of a shouter who has nothing to say. Jeff's service has nothing to do with anything. Vets are all over the place on immigration, the war on Iraq, and every other issue. I call this "playing the vet card" - a pathetic excuse for an argument.

RB resident wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:58 PM:"Flags on butts" makes the very point i would like to make...Callie369 is off mark. There is something to be said about over-using a sacred symbol--to have clothing made of fabric replicating the flag is just as bad. There is a huge difference between our military/peace officers wearing a flag patch (it looks like a flag, its worn to represent your country) and a pair of boxers made to look like a flag (soley there to prevent chaffing!)

Jeff wrote on Oct 1, 2007 4:16 PM:Give it a rest Gail. Your story sounds like some emotional drama from someone who actually has no knowledge of the truth. What part of illegal don't you understand. The MM are standing up for our country when others are ignoring the rule of law and want to turn America into Mexico. If Mexico is so great, why didn't they stay there? And this ploy by so many saying we stole Mexico is just an effort to take the focus off of the fact that illegal aliens are just that-illegal. Where did Mexico get this land before we bought it from them or won it in a war? They (actually the Spanish) stole it from the Indians centuries ago. I don't see any noble Mexicans wanting to return the land to the Indians.

cherie wrote on Oct 1, 2007 4:47 PM:Hey patriot! Where did you leave your spine? WAKE UP THIS IS A TAKE OVER. By you not being out there YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM...

Alf wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:24 PM:Well, "Flags on butts", there is another type of person who picks and chooses which law(s) they will obey and which they won't, the name for that sort of person is a "criminal". Regards, Alf.

Great writing, Gail wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:10 PM:You rock and so does your message. Just when did we turn into this kind of people? Anyone who accepts this type of behavior from any American is as Un-American as those perpetrating this tyranny. This is still America the land of the Free. Hate it or not the illegals have as much rights as us. They have the right to life, liberty, property and equal protection under the law. So why don't all of you SHUT UP and get over your... selves and understand we are a dignified country not some third world cesspool.

Don wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:12 PM:Wah wah wah, elitist Gail !

Quietly Buried In This Very Paper wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:25 PM:REAL COSTS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01/16/news/columnists/richard_kirk/19_20_141_15_07.txt-

Karen wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:54 PM:Quit treating Illegal Immmigrants like they have been paying taxes all of their lives. In reality most of them just got here, and they immediately reap the benifits of our society even though they have never paid into our system. AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN I HAVE PAID MY DUES AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PAYING THE DUES OF CITIZENS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES. And then they have the nerve to wave their foreign flags while making demands for more concessions and benifits. It is no wonder that Americans are getting angry... and frustrated.-

Robin wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:08 AM:Illegal aliens can live unlawfully in our communities, work illegally, send children to our schools, hospitals and gobble up our social service money. Some Mexicans then choose to fly the Mexican flag on U.S. soil. When the SDMM - as far as I know it is completely legal to submit their flyers - THEY are painted as the bad guys by this editorial. The editorial states that foreign flags can fly on U.S. soil and in the same vein of freedom of expression - the SDMM have the right to voice THEIR stance on the flying of Mexican flags in the U.S.-

TODAY IN RENO, NEVADA wrote on Oct 2, 2007 8:04 PM:GOOGLE This ! "MEXICAN FLAG IN RENO" See exactly what happens when a Mexican Business Illegally flys a Mexican Flag over a United States Flag. This video is being shown all over America, as I write this. R/ Skip

arlee wrote on Oct 2, 2007 8:32 PM:HURRAY HURRAY FOR THE VETERAN WHO WOULD NOT ALLOW THE AMERICAN FLAG TO BE DISRESPECTED. WE NEED 200 MILLION MORE AMERICANS WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY. LETS ALL SAY IT AGAIN -- WE'RE DAMN MAD AND WE AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT NO MORE. WISH WE COULD FIND OUT THE VETERANS EMAIL. EVERY ONE SHOULD LET HIM KNOW HOW MUCH WE RESPECT HIM. THE STORE OWNER SAYING HE WAS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND THEN DISPLAYING THE MEXICAN FLAG KINDA SHOWS WHERE HE COMES FROM.

Liz wrote on Oct 2, 2007 8:56 PM:God Bless that veteran who took a stand for the American flag. Who better to stand up for it than one who has fought for it and the country it stands for? What is our country coming to when such disrespect is shown to our flag. I shudder to think what this is all leading to. The immigration laws need to be enforced all over this country and our government needs to start caring about Americans again!

Jean wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:00 PM:Good for that veteran! He saw that Mexican flag flying over the U.S. flag and felt disrespected and disgusted. I don't believe the owner either. I think he purposely was showing the country he favors even if he is a citizen. Probably has dual citizenship. I've seen the Mexican flag waving in our country far too much in the past 2 years.

Dom wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:05 PM: To The individual: "Vistan".....Dearest Vistan....we have quite a large,and dangerous, growing, problem on our hands.Government at all levels chooses to do very little to combat,and prevent illegal immigration.As a matter of fact,our govt would like very much to implement the "New Order,with as little resistance from the citizenry as possible.The S.P.P./NAU agenda is being slid under our doors as we speak.Sluggish progress on a "Border Fence",along with vain attempts by congress to shove pro-illegal immigrant bills down the throats of the American people. The President,and his international buddies,want to make Mex,U.S.,and canada one big country.All in the name of the giant mega corporations of the world.These corporations need cheap labor to staff their companies,so border fences, stiff immigration laws,the corporations do not like.If you're an intelligent person,somewhat patriotic,and love your country,you know that this new idea is very wrong.You also know their are plenty of lefties,and folks with an abundance of ignorance, and at the same time, suffering from a sizable deficit of common sense.Like Vistan,for instance.Vistan believes that we just sit on the hill,and wait for the illegals to come our way.Sorry.......a small chuckle is turning into an uncontrollable barrel laugh.....There are many more "Minutemen" than you will ever know,doing a hell of a lot more than just sitting on a hill,with a pair of Binos,and a radio.Yes,we have done damage.At times,enough to derail the plans of the left "pro-Illegal" camp,and other frige groups that operate with them.The Minuteman movement grows,as the illegal immigration/mexico problem grows."Tarnish the reputation of all the rest"....on the contrary,the SDMM only "exemplify" how other MM chapters should carry themselves.Only "tarnished".....is the reputation of the various media outlets, their lies,and inuendo, their constant liberal agenda,oh,and of course,your face.Our country is being "DAMAGED"....from the inside out,NOT by the Minutemen,but by a people that have abandoned their own corrupt,poverty racked country,and want to lay claim on ours.We are at "War",Vistan,you simpleton! Wake-up,and get a clue!

Skip wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:22 PM:Skip wrote on Feb 18, 2007 9:00 PM: " I saw the movie "Flags of our Fathers", on the day it opened. An outstanding patriotic movie. I remember that the majority of people in the theater were older men in their 70's. Many older couples were there, and many men used walkers, canes, or wheelchairs. Patriotism is not dead ...............yet. I enjoyed the movie and recommend it to all. "

Dyehard wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:40 PM:A p.o. veteran got wind that Hispanic business was flying a Mexican flag above the American flag and took a big knife and cut it down and dared anyone to stop him. He kept the flag and walked away. He was a very angry man

cousinsal wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:12 PM:This is nuts. I'm offended quite often, but that doesn't mean that I go around telling people to change things. So what if I'm offended? I'm a lesbian - I'm offended - I just don't let it bother me if I see/hear things. Who cares? You gotta have thick skin in this world. I am SO sick of people being "offended". WHO CARES? We're ALL offended by something - no one should be able to change anything because of it. Geez - get a life. Boy, am I glad I'm pushing 60 and I can remember the old days when we all spoke English in school, and anyone from anywhere else had to learn OUR ways. You're in this country, buster, and we're mostly Christian, so you'd better get used to it - that was the old way.

SnakeOil wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:27 PM:I don't give a darn about your roots nor do I realize how you can be so ambiguous about your war "heros" while insulting mine. Flags are a symbol of the people who inhabit the land. Your stupidity only exceeds your lack of knowledge about the U.S. flag and your open borders (you immigrated legally?) and your compassion for those who break the law and want to colonize this country. I would be very interested to see how NZ'ers would react if Americans started rowing over in boats and taking away your jobs. Better yet, let's see a Mexican invasion occur (if you had any big money backers to support that) in your country. Spare me your wailing. I know it wouldn't be allowed in your country, by me or mine, so I abhor your writing about my country's invasion, as though you really care or know. Fly an American flag or not. You, madam, are not an American. You're just like the invaders. No assimilating. Not American. No interest in becoming one, just glad to be here, but no loyalty to the flag nor to the country.

Re: FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:32 PM:The real thing ... http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/10/20/entertainment/movies/13_51_3310_18_06.txt

PASS THIS ON!!! IT'S THE LAW wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:37 PM:HARSH, YOU SAY ??? BUT, IT'S THE LAW !! 1. There will be NO special bilingual programs in the schools, NO special ballots for elections, and all government business will be conducted in our language. 2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here. 3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office. 4. Foreigners will NOT be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, NO food stamps, NO health care, nor any other government assistance programs. 5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. 6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are NOT allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country. 7. Foreigners may NOT protest; NO demonstrations, NO waving a foreign flag, NO political organizing, NO "bad-mouthing" our president or his policies. If you do you will be sent home. 8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail. Harsh, you say ? The above laws happen to be the immigration laws of, MEXICO ! PASS THIS ON!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

Dan A in Sacramento wrote on Oct 2, 2007 11:32 PM:There is video evidence that this Mexican business person has flagrant violation of federal law by hanginf the Mexican flag above OUR American flag. Has local or federal authorities charged hin yet with breaking federal law. If not, why not? We all not to put pressure on the law enforcement to enforce these kinds of laws. IMMEDIATLY! Call or contact RENO police TODAY and demand them to do their job!

Elle wrote on Oct 3, 2007 6:37 AM:And this is why we are doomed to extinction. Really. We are really this petty and stupid. Your flag is higher than mine. Nyah nyan. Forget this crap and help keep pedophiles in jail for life. Do something that actually helps advance the human race like find alternative fuel sources than the ones we are using up.-

WHAT IS IN A FLAG ? wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:06 AM:Unflagging enthusiasm: the day to show some love for the Stars and Stripes http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/06/17/lifeandtimes/20_47_326_9_06.txt-

How do we love thee, Old Glory? wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:08 AM:http://images.townnews.com/nctimes.com/content/articles/2006/06/17/lifeandtimes/20_47_326_9_06.jpg-

Guidelines for Display of the Flag wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:27 AM:Out of respect for the U.S. flag, never: dip it for any person or thing, even though state flags, regimental colors and other flags may be dipped as a mark of honor. display it with the union down, except as a signal of distress. let the flag touch anything beneath it: ground, floor, water, merchandise. carry it horizontally, but always aloft. fasten or display it in a way that will permit it to be damaged or soiled. place anything on the flag, including letters, insignia, or designs of any kind. use it for holding anything. use it as wearing apparel, bedding or drapery. It should not be used on a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be attached to the uniform of patriotic organizations, military personnel, police officers and firefighters. use the flag for advertising or promotion purposes or print it on paper napkins, boxes or anything else intended for temporary use and discard. http://www1.va.gov/opa/feature/celebrate/flagdisp.asp-

SoProud wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:27 AM:God Bless you Patriot!-

THIS COUNTRY WILL BE TAKEN BACK BY U.S. VETERANS. wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:53 AM:Thank God because our politicians are determined to give it away.

How about the Mexican Flag? wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:58 AM:Don't get comfortable. The mexican flag will fly in American soon and that will be the flag of celebration. We will let yuo all live here, just learn Spanish! Se es espanol?

AmericanCitizen wrote on Oct 3, 2007 9:26 AM:"Immigration reform is a complex, emotional issue and will require compromise from all sides". What a load of drivel! There is NOTHING complicated about this. NOTHING. Criminals get prosecuted for their crimes in America, unless they're illegal mexicans who have mindless liberals on their side. Read my lips; illegal entry into a sovereign nation, identity theft, document fraud, immigration violations,...(all under assumed names using fraudulent documents). Liberal CRAP.-

ACLU DEFENDS MEXICAN FLAG IN RENO wrote on Oct 3, 2007 6:24 PM:Absolutely Disgusting.

To Vistan wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:56 AM:"The SDMM have started to mutate into an rouge organization". Does that mean we're wearing more make up like Claudia and Joanne? Or did you mean rogue like Ms Chatfield, here? It is pathetic that open border zealots try to claim that the Minutenmen and other pro American groups are using "bully tactics of fear and intimidation." Yeah,illegal aliens are SO fearful they brazenly fly a foreign flag in America, SO intimidated they march in the streets of a country whose laws they have broken demanding rights. What bullies are the AMERICAN, flag waving, Minutemen.-

To great writing wrote on Oct 4, 2007 11:06 AM:Do you EVEN hear yourself? WE need to act with compassion and not like a third world cesspool? All the while YOU are advocating for illegals to over run the country and turn it into just that. And I just love the pandering of Gail, an immigrant who left HER country, probably because the PM has the right idea. "This is Australia, we have our OWN culture, religion, language and sovereignty..NO ONE made you come here, so IF you don't like it: leave!!" How I wish our government would take a page from HIS playbook.

To Flags wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:49 PM:Please enlighten me as to what "rules" the Minutemen violate? Just one, please? YOU are totally clueless just "towing the company line" of lawlessness, anarchy and ripping off the American taxpayer...for what? ...

Dave wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:37 PM:Thanks Gail,a great opinion piece! We need more like it. You really put Schwilk in his place, the bottom of the trash bin.

SDMM1 wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:41 PM:Dave, you are the one that wants to trash America while us vets save it for your children. You are sad and pathetic!