DMann wrote on Sep 29, 2007 9:54 PM:You people just dont get it. It doesnt matter if the American people dont want illegals here & it doesnt matter if we want to foot the bill or not. Why? Because the federal goverment wants illegals here. Its been the same open door policy since the 86 Amniesty, AND IT WONT CHANGE. Weather its a cheaper workforce, more voters, who knows & it doesnt realy matter. It is what it is. So it wont matter if is democrats or republican we dont enforce our borders & anyone from anywhere can come here & we the American taxpayers will foot the bill. I wounder why ANYONE immigrates here legally, they have to wait for background checks, pay alot of money & study to be a citizen, none of which you have to do if you come here illegally. America has NO ONE to blame but Americans for the situation we are in, we just sit back & let it happen. Nothing has changed sice 86, well except another 20 to 30 million more illegals from all over the world, and it NEVER will.

Bill # H.R.1940: wrote on Sep 29, 2007 11:38 PM:Just a reminder: please contact your Congressman and tell them you want them to support this bill. ...

Democrat Robert wrote on Sep 30, 2007 6:59 AM:Thank you Rep Bilbray for your well formed article. Your continualclear communication with our residents is appreciated. We all know that you are facing a uphill battle daily with a Democratic controlled Congress, but please press on on this issue as you have done for 25 years. Apathy will never cloud this explosive issue.

Howiek wrote on Sep 30, 2007 7:10 AM:Sigh! Yet again, we get �political nonsense� from these two highly political politicians. I�m afraid the only thing this report proves is that you can get anyone to write a report saying exactly what you want it to say. When you look at how the report was prepared you quickly discover that it is nothing but a political hit piece�he should be censured for his incompetence! ... However, I�m not saying there isn�t a cost, I would just like to know what it really is and this report doesn�t cut it!

Sue wrote on Sep 30, 2007 8:22 AM:It is plain and simple, MOST legal law abidding citizens want the laws enforced in our country. But when you come upon all the open border people, the ... politicans, and the business community, we will have to fight hard for what we want. I believe the illegals are sucking us dry and will keeping fighting for OUR rights as U.S. citizens when it comes to this issue. Bill and Brian may be doing this for political gain but atleast it is being talked about.

Charity Begins At Home wrote on Sep 30, 2007 10:21 AM:Dmann, there will come a time when we CANNOT continue to foot the bill for illegals and that time is nearing. Maybe instead of going after the federal government, we should assess a new corporate tax that charges them for the services that illegals use. America should be ashamed that it cannot provide mental and quality health care for it's returning soldiers, for it's elderly, for it's mentally and physically disabled, housing for it's poor, or a decent education for it's children, but it CAN and does open it's pocketbook to provide health, education and social services to those who violate our laws to enter the country illegally and contribute nothing to the services they use. It is a matter of priorities and it is high time they changed to where our own citizens, not cheap illegal labor get the real benefits of living in this great country.

Pay your IRS taxes to wrote on Sep 30, 2007 11:31 AM:San Diego County, get a receipt from the county the taxes have been paid, submit your Tax form along with the receipt to the IRS. San Diego County can then collect the balance due from the FEDS.

John wrote on Sep 30, 2007 2:22 PM:Horn and Bilbray... more victims of the dreaded brain eating amoeba?

No repsect wrote on Sep 30, 2007 2:33 PM:I got no respect for these Rodney Dangerfields of politics. Their hypocrisy outshines their useful intentions. Their twisted ideologies let them persecute without guilt.

Marty wrote on Sep 30, 2007 4:18 PM:We are headed down a dark path to poverty, dictatorship and possibly a revolution. I don't believe the American people will give up their country as easily as depending on who gets into office one way or the other. According to one report, illegals have killed more people within the borders of the US than Americans in Iraq. I find it interesting (sad) that our government representatives use the Iraq war for political football, but have to be beat into a conversation about illegals. Very sad to see this great country become an annex of Mexico, accept the illegal gangs and non interest in our social patters and lanuage become commonplace. So sad, but our government is letting it happen. I have to laugh at the news of 15 or 30 or whatever illegals being caught or deported. That is like spitting in the ocean and wanting credit for the volume of water. Silly. Apparenly George signed a tready without the American people's support and we are just getting a taste of our future so that products can be brought in from other countries cheaper. Never thought I would see it, but here it is.

RG wrote on Sep 30, 2007 4:52 PM:The main reason we can’t get a handle on cost of illegal immigration is because of “don’t ask, don’t tell” policies. The estimate of 12 to 20 million illegals in the country has been used for a long time. That’s a big difference, and by now probably way too low. Except in general terms we don’t even know who they are, or why they are here. How can any study that tries to quantify the financial impact be accurate? The positive or negative financial impact would be beside the point anyway if our immigration laws were enforced. No illegals would mean no financial impact. Financial problem solved.

Reardon wrote on Sep 30, 2007 7:01 PM:Who better than the North County Times to do an in-depth investigative report? You have “investigative reporters" and the knowledge of how to use the Freedom of Information Act. For those who do not answer questions, you have the ability to quote their refusal and cause then some public embarrassment. If you don't like these numbers, or the methodology, you certainly have the resources to hire the forensic CPAs to examine the books. Don't curse the darkness of the County Report -- light a candle so that we may all see.

anotherview wrote on Sep 30, 2007 7:57 PM:Trying to bill the federal government for illegal alien fiscal impacts constitutes a political sham. First, the federal government will not pay. Second, please consider, dear reader, what the two elected officials want. They beseech the federal government to pay for a continuing problem that they decry. They do not call for a comprehensive and final end to the national problem of illegal aliens and illegal immigration to stop the associated costs. In short, they fail to offer a workable solution to the burden from the presence of illegal aliens. A few comments will expose these two time-wasters. First, neither declares that illegal aliens have no right to live and work in America. Second, neither endorses the White House August 10th Fact Sheet laying out enforcement of existing federal immigration law. This enforcement represents immigration reform but without amnesty for illegal aliens. A key element of this enforcement stops employers from hiring illegal aliens. With no job, the illegal aliens will self-deport (at their own expense) -- no national roundup needed. Minus the lure of a job, the foreign nationals will not illegally migrate to America. A reasonable reader will grasp that fewer illegal aliens in America means lower costs related to illegal aliens. The next opinion from these two peacocks should offer doable actions for stopping illegal immigration and removing illegal aliens. Then illegal alien costs will go down. Meanwhile, most readers may agree that by enforcement of the law, American can free itself of illegal aliens, and will prosper all the more.

EG wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:33 AM:Actually, people like Bill Horn are responsible for this problem in the first place, as are most north county residents with acreage, avocado groves, citrus groves, nurseries, and horse property that hire undocumented laborers on a regular basis. Add in the general yard cleanup crews, tree services, construction contractors, and restaurant owners that regularly hire undocumented laborers along with the thousands of home owners that hire them for occasional work and you can clearly identify the problem; as long as we hire them, they?ll keep coming. Get over it, or start doing the work your self.-

DinTN wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:41 AM:"Second, the Social Security Administration has an "earning suspense file." This is truly a "who done it?" The file holds funds paid by persons with Social Security numbers that do not match SSA records. This fund includes dollars paid by illegal immigrants. We're talking bank vault numbers. Right now on average, the fund is growing by more than $50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes. More than 9 million W-2s with incorrect Social Security numbers land in the suspense file. A portion of the money from that file should be allocated to local governments to cover their services."- And yet no one ever mentions the thousands (millions?) of innocent men, women, and mostly children whose Social Security numbers are being used by these illegal invaders, destroying their identity, credit and work history? Shouldn't a portion of this "fund" be used to repair their lives once discovered? Maybe even a little to aid to the families of thousands of innocent victims of violent crimes committed by illegal invaders? These innocent people are totally ignored by our politicians on either side! Disgusting!

Patriot wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:13 PM:I was treated to real eye-opener driving down South Quice Street in Escondido Saturday morning. Hundreds of men loitering on each side of the street over a four block stretch, most probably illegal. All waiting to be hired by someone too immoral and selfishly cheap to hire a legal worker. Many probably with children in public school. This is what the study ignored: how much county taxpayers are spending to provide their children with a public education.

sdraoul wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:06 PM:This article written by staffers, not Bilbray or Horn--neither are capable of such a piece, is truly comical. The "study" is baloney. Bilbray and Horn, both of whom I supported for reelection, are full of crap. If either wishes to debate this issue with me, I accept anywhere, anytime. They can reach me through the NC Times.

NCT's is NOT printing wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:22 PM:letters that support the sending of this bill!!!! You guys should be ashamed!

Gee .................. wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:04 PM:Now you won't print the words "Anchor Baby"? http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/08/24/opinion/commentary/19_38_298_23_07.txt-

I like it how wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:42 AM:the Escondido apartments owners scream at the City Council, you can't tell me I can't rent to illegals, besides how am I suppose to know they are illegals? I lived in an apartment with all illegals, yet when the building was sold I was the only one they had to relocate, paid for the move paid my deposit, everything! I find it amusing that when it comes to the American's benefit, THEN they find out, HEY! These guys are illegal! Don't pay for their relocate! Save me money! CALL ICE! Yep, thats what I call exploitation, when you can use someone and then toss them away when they are no longer of any use to you. Escondido apartment owners you should be proud of yourselves! This is why I live in San Marcos now. -

Steve wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:11 AM:As long as the people don't demand Congress be held accountable (more than lip service), they will continue to do as they please. We need to return to the demonstrations of the 60s to show people we mean business. Even though the government may or may not foot the bill to cities for illegals, it's still taxpayers money footing the bill. They just print up more money!-

Ken wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:23 AM:Raise up Americans and let us put a STOP to the Illegal Aliens and Illegal Drugs coming into our country illegally through our southern border. STOP the free benefits such as medical, education, welfare, etc. Employers need to be held accountable for hiring illegal aliens, NOW!IT IS TIME TO ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!-

Jim wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:51 AM:It's funny, after our citizens beat down that lousy amnesty bill in the senate last June, our wonderful senate continues to try to pass it through. They clearly have this attitude that we just don't matter. Kudos to Congressmen Bilbray and Bill Horn for trying to do something about this. I'm telling you folks, everyday we are closer to losing this country and something needs to be done. Start booting our senators, that would be a start.-

My advise, wrote on Oct 2, 2007 12:48 PM:buy weapons and lots of bullets, cuz the civil war is going to start real soon!

Linda W, wrote on Oct 2, 2007 2:16 PM:It is true George Bush, his people and his large corporate donors want the illegal aliens to be here. Bush had a Republican Congress and senate for most of his term. They could have secured the border and started deporting illegal alien lawbreakers anytime they wanted. Unfortunately they didn't want to then or now.

JayDee wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:06 PM:Maybe if we all get togeather as one and stop paying tax's the goverment will not have the money to waste anymore and WE THE PEOPLE can stand up and be heard what we want in our country.. No money no power.. JayDee

Feds is Us! wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:34 AM:If the Feds foot the bill you foot the bill, on money borrowed from the Chinese Commies. Our national debt is now $9,000,000,000,000, that's trillion dollars. Try running your house that way. Illegal immigration is the symptom, North American Union is the disease. Bilbray and Horn need to address/stop the coming North American Union. Google it! Bug them!-

Joe wrote on Oct 21, 2007 10:59 AM:Keep fighting against criminal aliens, Brian and Bill. They have to be deported soon.