G.Caughman wrote on Sep 30, 2007 9:53 PM:I'll just bet that MArty is sitting back in dearole North Carolina laughing his A** off ! ! ! ! What did the Charger expect? Hire a losing coach you get a looser! ! ! ... Get rid of Smith and Turner.. Hire Marty back and give him the support he deserves !!!!

JAMES wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:17 AM:Enough with Marty. Marty took the Chargers as far as they could go. Do any of you remember his conservative playcalling cost us the Jets playoff game? Do any of you remember him following a 12-4 playoff season with a non-playoff 9-7 season? Do any of you remember his panic challenge against the Pats or other questionable calls during that game? I for one could not stand another playoff debacle. AJ made the right move...problem is The Spanos' wouldn't let him fire Marty when he wanted to...so what happens the Cowboys screw everything up and pick Wade over Norv. The jury is still out...he's gotta fix it or he's gone. BUT THE PROBLEM IS RIVERS...HE'S JUST PLAYING WITH HIS HEAD UP HIS !@#...Chicago--win...fine...New England--gets the team in a huge hole early with horrible turnovers...Green Bay--could've closed out that game...but overthrew Gates and Jackson and had horrible interception...Today--more turnovers...leads to 17 points...crushing fumble..had a lot of time on that..he's got to get rid of it...missed Jackson in the end zone...announcers said he was pressured...look again--he wasn't. Say what you want about the line play...defense...whatever...but quarterbacks get paid big money for a reason...the fate of the team depends on their solid and dependable play...if your quarterback is turning the ball over, and missing easy passes...your team has really no shot...SEE CHICAGO BEARS...RIGHT NOW RIVERS IS KILLING THE TEAM...When Brees was killing the team, Marty benched him...I'm not saying bench the kid...because I believe in him...BUT HE BETTER GET HIS HEAD OUT BECAUSE HE IS THE MAIN REASON THIS TEAM IS 1-3. KEEP HANGIN' IN...THEY CAN STILL RIGHT THIS SHIP...The Steelers were all but out of the playoffs the year after they went 15-1 but they got it fixed and won the Bowl...The Pats were 1-3 to start their first Super Bowl year... They are a good team...they were not overrated...you aren't overrated if you come off a 14-2 season...THE QUARTERBACK IS KILLING THE TEAM...HE NEEDS TO GET HIS ACT TOGETHER BEFORE THERE IS NO TIME LEFT TO RIGHT THIS THING!-

rocco wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:51 AM:Marty ain't coming back. Get over that one. We have to find a new good coach. Fast.-

Botz'er wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:38 AM:Marty never got off the payroll, he is still collecting a big fat paycheck from the Chargers. No reason for him not to come back with a crow eating phone call.-

Rich wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:45 AM:No surprises here. The Chargers don't have a number one receiver thanks to A.J. and they are very predictable because of it. How many passes will Vincent Jackson drop before they realize he's not that guy? You're kidding yourself A.J. You screwed this up badly. I can't remember a time in NFL history when a GM has botched an offseason so magnificently. When your GM puts personal agendas ahead of what's best for the team, this always happens! Even the most casual fan could see this coming! A.J. is going to get canned and he deserves it! When a team starts to look confused and disorganized, it's time to fire the coach! That won't happen here, but it's going to be a lost season because of A.J. Smith.-

David wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:13 AM:A.J. won the battle, but lost the war. Spanos should never have let Marty go.-

Philip wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:36 AM:Well, want a lesson on "how to not lead" Leadership? - -- see the Chargers record. I cast my vote for bringing back Marty!-

Bolt Fan wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:37 AM:The problem is with the whole team. They are completely out of sync. There is not chemistry up and down the field. The defensive secondary stinks like they have for the past 40 years. There is not protection and the play calling was horrible. Yea Rivers has played bad but so has everyone else including the non-motivating HC. What happened to the running game in the second half. It was working why did it stop. The whole game/team is PATHETIC. Firing Norv will not be the answer this year. Get rid of AJ and enjoy a "VERY HIGH" first round pick next year. Oh by the way, it is going to be a long season with the product this year.-

Philip wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:44 AM:Want a lesson on how not to lead a superb team? See the head coach at the Charger's main office. Lessons are cheap! Get a new Head man, Chargers!-

Zack wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:23 AM:Oh, please. I can't believe anyone could believe that this team would be any better under Marty. Marty never brought the Chargers into the playoffs in two consecutive seasons. The Chargers won under Marty playing soft schedules and completely went into the tank once they played a tougher schedule. I have said it before and I will say it again. The Chargers are a soft team. I have been a Charger fan for several decades and they have always in the end come up short. I sure hope LT isn't the team leader, because his press conferences are starting to come off as nothing more that a lot of whining. I sure hope he isn't dragging that attitude back into the locker room. If the players are having trouble picking up the new system, then maybe they need to work harder at it. If the coaches are having problems teaching the new system, then the Chargers brought in the wrong coaches. As for Marty? I give him a lot more credit for wanting the Chargers to succeed instead of enjoying the joke that this team has turned into. I can't imagine Marty enjoying what is currently going on with the Chargers. If he is enjoying this, then he is not the man I think he is.-

Roy wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:26 AM:James i told you the reasons why the Chargers would not be what you thought they would be. Now is the time for your long winded excuse posts. Face it they will not be a playoff contender under this coaching staff. At least they were under Marty.-

Bobby wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:26 AM:LAST IN THE WEST! Turner may never be a great head coach but he was willing to take Smith's buddy's as his DC AND OC. Turner is not dumb, he will take the 4 year $ millions to the bank from any GM dumb enough to hire him! How about Smith's "CORE" players, looken good Jammer. Every year I ask how this guy makes the team? I would not even have Jammer on my AFL team! Did ya see Cottrell pull Merriman off after the sack? Third and long and no Merriman? Of course Jammer gives up a TD. O yes thanx again A.J. for running off great players and coaches for "personal reasons",,, Again Never make business personal Mr. Smith. Business 101 When I was in high school in the late 50's the mean kids would call slow or dumb kids AJ's remember?-

Bobby wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:33 AM:This team is going as backward as the stupid backward bolts on their shoulders! Who is the dip stick that wanted the bolts on backwards ?-

Jonas wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:44 AM:That sound the Chargers hear is the other shoe dropping. Thanks Norv, you turned a diamond into a pile of coal. Nice job!-

65,175 Fans? wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:49 AM:No, I don't think so. There were plenty of CHIEFS fans having a GREAT time watching the Dolts crash! Don't include me in your article. GO CHIEFS!!-

Bolter wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:55 AM:Marty is STILL on the payroll, but I don't see the Spanos family making the "phone call." I believe Norv and A.J. are here for the year ... at least until mid year when the team will probably be subpar .500, then someone's head will fall. Bill Cower is available for the right price - but the Spanos family never was one to spend $$$. Winning isn't cheap and egos must be kept in check for the short term if the ship is to be righted! Go Chargers!-

disappointed fan wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:59 AM:Can you believe how terrible the Bolts are playing. First the defense was tackling like a bunch of female flag football players. One arm tackle after another was broken and the opposing team consistently make ten or twenty more yards after the initial defensive contact. You do not win games giving up those kind of easy yards, play after play. Second, this new coach has not got a clue how to run a winning team. His clock management throughout the game could have been done better by any high school football coach. He is a loser and MUST GO. Rivers needs to be jerked out of the game when he chokes the way he has been doing. He is a good quarterback but he has a tendency not to recover from big mistakes he has made in the past. Maybe down the road he will be as good as Humphreys or even Brees but right now he is not ready for prime time. When he starts to crumble, a good coach would know that it is time to take him out and replace him. I know all this arm-chair Monday morning quarterbacking is easy but we are die-hard fans who have had high hopes for our team after coming so close last year and to be in LAST PLACE already this early in the season is a bit hard to stomach. I think the defense needs a good a** chewing due to their ineffective tackling throughout the game. I think Rivers needs to learn how not to throw those dead duck balls when he gets a little pressure and most of all we need to find an effective coach that knows how to win. This new coach is a loser and so now we have a Charger team that is a loser. This could have been the year.-

Snore... wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:00 AM:TWENTY FOUR UNANSWERED POINTS.... 'nuff said....-

John wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:03 AM:What is going on with LT? During the Packer game, he has a pass bounce of the back of his helmet. Against KC, he isn't looking again and the ball gets intercepted. . . Then, down by 14 with three minutes to play, 3rd and goal, Rivers goes back to pass, nobody open except LT on a screen completely wide open. Rivers wants to throw him the ball and LT NEVER looks back; would have been a touchdown. If he is going to yell at Rivers for the ball, at least pay attention to the QB. I am increasingly disappointed by LT's lack of game sense.-

Bruce wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:11 AM:I can see it now, Dean Spanos replaces AJ with Marty. Marty then works his magic and talks Bill Cowart into taking over the GM spot while Marty takes over the reigns on the field. Where did I place my pipe.......I was just smoking it a minute ago.-

Solemnity wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:20 AM:You ever thought about the name "Norv"? It just sounds kind of flat and uninspiring.-

Ismael Armenta wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:20 AM:Well, I allways said Turner is going to...it up.-

SAD!! :o( wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:40 AM:Hahahhahahahaahhhahaha!!!! Can you see why they got rid of scarface.. AHAhahaahah.. get it together L.T man up and dont cry!! WIN LOSE OR TIE RAIDERS TILL I DIE AND BEYOND!!!-

Bolt4Life wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:46 AM:To John: First of all, this is in no way a personal attack. Secondly, are you kidding me, brother?! The reason why LT wasn't "paying attention" during those passes is because he was a decoy, a last option at best. With a linebacker right in front of him, it would be senseless to throw such a dangerous pass. As for the screen yesterday, that was all on Rivers. LT was running that swing to perfection and Rivers saw him, hesitated, and then looked elswhere. LT was on his way to a career day after the first half. There is no way the best player in the game and the reigning MVP forgets how to play the game during one off-season. I think this season is actually showing how much of a class guy we have in LT. He has every reason to call the team out, yet the worst he has done is have a verbal spat with a jittery Rivers. He never caused dissent during the entire coaching carousel and he could have really lost it yesterday after he was kicked to the curb like a practice player during the second half.-

empathetic from baltimore wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:50 AM:Hi Chargers Fans, Baltimore fan here. The two best teams in the AFC last year are hurting. We in Baltimore are struggling alongside you guys. Keep your chin up, though. We are both one game out of our respective division lead. Still, I cannot understand why anyone keeps hiring Norv Turner as a head-coach. As an offensive coordinator, sure, but not a head coach. Good luck out there, can't wait for the Ravens/Chargers game later this year.

NOW...NOW... wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:51 AM:What didn't anyone else win money yesterday? When the chief's moneyline went to +550 and the way the chargers are playing? I love these Chargers they're money in da bank! Oceanside dodged a MAJOR bullet. Chula Vista you can have them. They can't even make a good choice for a coach! Let alone a BILLION dollar stadium project. I wonder just really wonder who the heck is going to want to drive 15 miles further south just to get to OTAY to see these chumps.-

chargerBob wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:00 AM:See you later all you bandwagan fans. I have been a charger fan for 20 years and despise most of the fans for supporting only winning teams. Where were all of you when I was sitting at the Q four years ago with 70% raider fans around me. We have the worst fans in the league......As much as I hate Raider fans, they support their team blindly and with passion. ONly if we could have that in San Diego.-

Marshall wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:18 AM:Welcome to the "Marty and Norv Death Camp". Being a fan of a team both these losers have coached I could have told you this would happen. The only differance between the 2... a) Marty is "death by 1000 daggers" (you win in the regular season to die in the playoffs). b) Norv is "Sopranos" style (just one shot to the back of the head). Kiss a new stadium deal goodbye unless things change quick in the front office.

Mo Hawk wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:26 AM:Seriously. First of all, fire Norv NOW ... Get a young motivator in here as fast as possible. You can tell all of our young up-and-coming 'core' players have wrapped up their fat little contracts and are no longer playing with urgency. I don't care what these loafers say to the press after the game, they're just empty words, bla bla bla...THIS TEAM HAS NO PRIDE RIGHT NOW! None. Embarrassing. Downright insulting to Charger fan. I spent over six-hundred dollars of my very hard earned money taking my family to the game Sunday, money I bust my butt to make,to scrape together, and to see what? Overpaid, undermotivated contract riders lay the fattest egg I've ever seen at The Murph. Shameful. I guess the message here is that I should find another way to throw away my money by by taking up something more constructive, like gambling. Oh wait, I already have taken up gambling...the game's called 'Buying A Ticket To A 2007 Chargers Game.' Hey A.J...why not stop having Ron Rivera bring you little paper cups of water from the sideline and give the kid a chance. No, you're right...just let the guy who coached the NFL's top-ranked defense in 2006 clean your golf shoes. Secondly, Norv isn't the only Turner that needs to go. I hate to say it, but Micheal Turner has to go...on the trading block. We only have him for 13 more games anyway...GET SOMETHING FOR HIM! He's one of the top 10 running backs in the league, a league short on durable, quality backs, WE NEED A SHUT-DOWN CORNER, NOW!!! Don't let another stud walk away at the end of the season for nothing. STOP THE BLEEDING IN THE SECONDARY!-

Buddy wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:30 AM:Well, when I said that this was going to happen, right when they hired "I'm a loser, pick me , pick me" , I caught such a rashioning of... Now that we are 1-3 where is your backbone now? I was more than willing to eat my words, and I would have enjoyed it. However, with AJ (my ego is so big that I can't even walk through doorways) Smith and puppet boy Norv, nothing will improve, ever! I have never been a Marty fan, but at least I had enough respect for the man, knowing he had his players ready to go each week. P Rivers has always reminded me of Ryan Leaf, they waited too long to get rid of him, how long will it take to get rid of Rivers? I have been a fan for 30 years, when will this kind of crap end? Get some coaches who know how to plan games , inspire players and kick some a$$. Get rid of a GM who doesn't give a shi? about winning, who only has his buddies stroke his ego. We don't want to see or hear about you, we want to see one of the most talented group of athletes win a superbowl. GO CHARGERS!! dump the GM, HC , OC, DC , QB stop the bleeding now, fix the jag and kick some ass!!!!!-

Dirk wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:33 AM:Goog call John. LT looked good running the ball, but his head is out of it when he is running pass patterns. I think all of these players need to stop whining and looking for excuses and play 60 minutes of focused football and they shouldn't have a problem winning the rest of their games (except maybe against the Colts because we know the secondary just can't handle that game).-

Nor Cal Charger wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:37 AM:I remember during the off season a Man named Jimmy Johnson saying he would love to take over the job in SD. Here we all are scratching our heads and wandering how this could happen to a team with so much talent...scratch, scratch..well as we all know Jammer is a bum and has been since day one..Ty Law was available during the off season..at least his veteran leadership would have helped us in the DB backfield...Phillip "Ryan Leaf" Rivers has bombed...AJ put all of his eggs in one basket with Rivers..and this what we get. I don't blame LT at this point..he's tired & frustrated..let me play GM now..we still have Mike Turner..we can use him as trade bait to go after a DB who actually wants to and can play. We are deep at running back..so It won't hurt at this point..nothing can hurt more than being 1-3 in a weak division. All I can say is that I hope the Padres win today..at least we can hope that one of the Pro teams make the post season..it won't be the Chargers. Go Pads!-

JAMES wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:42 AM:Roy, Excuses...what excuses? Rivers is killing the team...that's not an excuse that's a fact...and you sound like that average loser with the mentality "at least we'll make the playoffs"...to what? to have Marty get outcoached again...Marty was never going to get this team a championship and YOU KNOW IT...and if just making the playoffs is what you're about what's the point?...-

JAMES wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:46 AM:John, Nothing wrong with LT...on pass he didn't look back...Rivers threw early...Rivers admitted himself and Turner pointed it out...At the goal line...watch the tape...LT looks back and is waiting for the ball...Rivers said something about Ty Law maybe waiting on it...I'M TELLING YOU RIVERS IS KILLING THIS TEAM!-

Justin wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:58 AM:You know, I understand the chants, the frustration of the crowd, fans, and players alike. Firing Marty was a poor, poor decision, and I understand that he made some bad calls, especially in the playoffs, but who hasn't? I mean only two teams make it to the Superbowl, and the Chargers had/have a hell of a better chance with Marty they they would with Norv Turner. Marty had a knack for building teams the way he wanted. It took a few years, but he got the team he wanted. People thought that dropping Seau, and Brees was a bad idea (or people thought), but that position was filled nicely with Merriman and Rivers. Last year, Marty did his job. We scored the most points in the first 3 games and not allowing many as well. Now we have Norv and look where that's getting us. When you have the experience and tools, you got to know what to do with them! It boils down to the Head Coach and is responsible for all actions of all the players on the team. Norv is showing his inexperience, and the decision of firing Marty Shotenheiomer was a mistake and evident. Norv is digging his grave and will suffer the consequences of is actions (or lack of) soon enough. For the belief that Marty will come back, that's not going to happen. All we can do is wait until Norv's release and hope the next person does a better job at head Coach, Which anything at this point will be an improvement.-

Scott wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:00 AM:Don't blame Norv; don't blame Rivers; there are three areas I believe deserve blame. First, AJ Smith is the worst GM in the league. He has demonstrated incompetence by his decisions, including his emotional dumping of Marty, letting Edwards and Brees go. Smith should learn how to be a GM, starting with borrowing Beathard's notes, in the CFL. Second, the offensive line is not super bowl level. Brady is a great quarterback because of his outstanding off line. Last, the linebacker corp have the talent but lack leadership, both on and off the field. They have failed to read run or pass, when important. Fix those three things, and the Chargers are in the Super Bowl! Otherwise fans, enjoy the beach on Sunday afternoons, rather than raise your blood pressure in disappointment.

Concerned-1 wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:08 AM:Hey Bruce, I'll take a hit of that. I think Marty and Cowers could turn it all around. AJ has done a horrible job on all levels. He should go ASAP. I also wish we could get some new owners, like a publically owned team!-

charger fans wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:14 AM:it comes full circle. you had your chances and now a 32 year old head coach is about to light you up in two weeks. GO RAIDERS.

Hah! wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:15 AM:The Norv of them! I just can't see Spanos Turning over like that .. Go Chargers Go! All the way to Chula Vista!-

Joe wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:23 AM:Thanks ArrogantJ, aka OJ Smith for allowing your BIG FAT EGO to turn the YUGO (not a ferrari until you at least get into the superbowl) into a TRAIN WRECK! His silence now is deafening. "You are what your record is" and right now you are a LOSER!!! So much for "continuity". The only continuity we have is 3 LOSSES IN A ROW! Oh, it must be because of the "WRINKLES". You also likely cost us the playoffs in '05 by playing superhardball with ALL UNIVERSE Antionio Gates who surely would have helped us enough to win the Dallas game. How many tackles did Donnie Edwards have against us? How many tackles did injury-prone Wilhelm have-oh, that's right, he can't even get onto the field and couldn't beat out Donnie to start. Without Godfrey the leadership factor of Donnie has been overlooked and would surely have helped get our defense playing better as it would be IMPOSSIBLE to be playing any worse. Jammer, QUIT NOW-you are EMBARASSING YOURSELF AND THE TEAM. You are a millionaire 1st round 6th year BUST!!!!!!!!!! Florence, you couldn't cover a bed if you were a blanket and I see high school players every week tackle MUCH better than you. McCree is a BUST. START WEDDLE. Rivers looks bad but the O line can't block and the receivers are not getting any separation and LT does not know how to look back for the ball. Can you believe that on 3rd & 19 "get a clue" Cotrell takes out Merriman who led the entire league last year in sacks in just 12 games? FIRE COTRELL NOW, promote Ron Rivera who was the defensive coordinator last year for the Bears in the superbowl and bring in a linebackers coach. OJ Smith knew Norval was not a motivator, but at least he was a sycophant, but thought the players could do it themselves. NOT! Does LT motivate you when he talks? Marty was a master motivator and at getting his players to play their hardest for him. You done get 200 wins or go 14-2 in the NFL by being a bad coach. This team is WEAK, LAZY, UNINSPIRED and PATHETICALLY COACHED. It is mindboggling that Norval would not call a time out in the Pats game when they ran the spread and put in our nickle and dime packages. That is one of the DUMBEST coaching mistakes in the history of the NFL. All we heard last week is how they were going to improve their tackling. NOT! Can you imagine any team in the history of the NFL not being able to cover a 4 yard slant and having it turn into a 50 yard touchdown pass 2 WEEKS IN A ROW? Vincent Jackson got "distracted" (talk about a contrived and pathetic exuse-man up dude and just say you DROPPED IT) and dropped a perfectly thrown bomb that hit him right in the stomach. Pro players do NOT GET DISTRACTED! One play at the end of the game spoke volumes. Larry Johnson, while trying to just run out the clock, ran off tackle which should have gone for 1 or 2 yards but he RAN OVER and STEAMROLLED 6 or 7 of our WEAK defensive players-especially INEPT effort, or lack thereof, of Florence for about 20 yards! That my fellow fans is the definition of UNINSPIRED, LAZY and UNMOTIVATED players. I asked a couple of days ago on this forum if the Chargers have heard their previous 2 wake up calls. It is obvious they have not. If this PATHETIC embarassment doesn't wake them up then I'm afraid nothing will. Yes, Cotrell and Norval are HORRIBLE and not putting the right players in the proper positions but nonetheless it is up to the PLAYERS to PLAY. Hopefully they realize now that they are not nearly as good as all the preseason hype and that the 14-2 was against a weak schedule and they were lucky (remember Vincent Jackson rolling the ball forward after a catch that could have easily been a fumble-how STUPID can you get, oh I guess it is possible like Florence headbutting and Mcree not knocking down the 4th down pass in the Pats game)to win several of those games. Marty is too smart (so smart that he is getting paid 4 MILLION dollars to play golf) to come back to this lions den of OJ Smith's making. Let's hope they can have a good game in Denver and get back on track and get UP to 2-3.-

Brian wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:32 AM:When it comes to football, Marty and Norv are both geniuses. What separates Marty from Norv is that Marty is also an exceptional motivational leader. That is why Marty is an excellent head coach. Norv doesn't have that quality, and that is why a position as an offensive coordinator is better suited for him. If Norv does not make the playoffs this year, AJ really needs to consider hiring a natural leader like Marty.-

American-Irish Resident wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:46 AM:The bright side of it for me is that I am one of the people that enjoys watching the NFL draft and it would appear that San Diego should have two picks in the top 40. It now creates a situation where April 26 & 27, 2008 will be interesting days for San Diego. Since the Turner/Cottrell dance partners have destroyed the organization, it is simply time to say "build for the future" again. There is no possible way in the 2007 season for the impotent San Diego Chargers and the wildly immature Philip "Ryan Leaf" Rivers to beat Indy or NE so let's all enjoy a grand draft weekend in April and maybe Glen Dorsey will be a Charger.-

Sporscenter wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:47 AM:I liked how Sunday Nights Sports Center has Spanos and Smith as the NFL's worst people of the week!-

Ken wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:49 AM:Hey Charger fans, cheer up. When your loser organization finally decides to leave Southern California, that's when your agony will be over. You will no longer have to give blind loyalty to an ungrateful organization that demonstrates hostility and contempt to its fans. Does this sound familiar? Yes, I was a long-time suffering Rams fan as a kid and young adult. The Chargers organization is hostile to you for all the reasons stated by other fans: bad personnel decisions, planning during the off-season, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if Turner was brought on as a piece of the strategy to argue moving the team out of town. Weird things happen all the time. Think Rams again. So, your team will eventually decide that the blame should be on your shoulders for not cheering "MARTY" loud enough. They will finally decide that you are lousy fans for not having the patience of Job for another 40 years. When they do leave town, they will then do whatever it takes to win a championship just to spite you; to prove it was your fault they never won in San Diego because you didn't give the proper support. No, you dared to go to the beach on a Sunday when you should have been selling out the stadium for another average season. See, it is your fault. My agony is over. I have peace of mind these days. Go Seahawks! Well, they atleast try to give the fans reason to believe. I am ejoying the Rams season this year. Ahh, sweet justice.-

Sean C. wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:52 AM: Rivera takes over as head coach/D-coordinator, Clarence Schelman takes over as O-coordinator & LT gets alot more carries in the 2nd half!-

Sean C. wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:56 AM:The Bears are losing without Rivera. Put Rivera in charge of the Chargers.

To Charger Bob wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:11 AM:You're a bit naive aren't you? Is there something wrong with being being mad about a team that is by all accounts the most talented, least performing team in football. It is your decision to pay those big dollars to sit and watch a team like this, blindly, for all those years. I am, however, not so sure it is something I would be that proud of!-

To Bolt4Life from John wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:24 AM:You say LT was the last option. But I think the key word there is "option" meaning the QB should have the option of throwing to him . . . that is if he were looking back so the QB wouldn't bounce one off of the back of his head again. And I really don't think anyone would believe LT (the past MVP) running out of the back field in the red zone would be a "last option at best". LT with three minutes left was COMPLETELY uncovered, Rivers had the ball ready to go, and LT simply would not look back. You call that "hesitation" on River's part. I am sometimes shocked by the complete lack of ability of anyone in San Diego to give even the slightest criticism of something LT did. He's a great player but he blew that one. Also, if he were paying attention to his QB (remember? he was yelling at Rivers to give him the ball more when he's open) KC would not have had that interception in the middle. See? That wasn't so hard to say; he's a great player but pulled a boob move on two big plays. Come on- you can admit it. He's not infallible. Also, here we go with that classy thing again; what does that have to do with anything today?-

Get Rid Of Rivers While You're At It wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:27 AM:Am I the only one who thinks Rivers should GO as well? He got a lot of credit for winning games when the offensive and defensive line should have received the credit. Get someone new behind the reins and find another QB.

Greg B. wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:31 AM:Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs! I love what I saw yesterday. The Marty chants only cap it. You guys lost to the Chiefs, the Chiefs my favorite team is probably the worst team in the nfl, and the Chargers lost to them. I loved Dwards big smile as he came off the field. This is what happens when you have a g.m. with an ego 100 times the size of his brain

Arlan wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:49 AM:Since 1994, Turner's first year as a head coach, he has a win-loss record of 59-85, respectively, including his 1-3 record, with the Chargers. What is wrong with that picture. In that same period, he has only 1 winning season. This guy can't win! Congratulations A.J. You took away a leader and a winner and gave us a loser!-

john wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:03 PM:Marty drove the players nuts with his "One play at a time" matra, but they bought into it and it worked. Compare that to the dynamic Norv Turner who said after the New England game he thought the Chargers played well. Keith Overman on NBC said it correctly: "AJ SMith is the worst general manager and Dean Spanos the worst owner in the NFL."-

Chargers stink wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:18 PM:Just face it they stink. They just had real good luck last year and lost of momentum. We need to face the fact that was last year and now their lucky streak is long since gone. Stop thinking about last year and move on people...-

frank wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:27 PM:I'm a diehard charger fan, live in nj and spent a lot of money to go to a few games every year to SD, the owners better get rid of the coach and GM sooner than later, they may wind up 2-14, for now I will put my SD trips on hold, the owners have to get rid of the GM, he is a cancer on this team, as a GM you leave your personal stuff at home.

Joe wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:01 PM:I can't take credit for this but another poster on the Chargers webstite had, in my opinion, an excellent suggestion. Promote Rivera to at least Defensive Coordinator (if not head coach this year and lucky to have him in the wings for next year's head coach) and switch now to running a 4-3 defense. Yeah, I know everybody will say we are "built" for a 3-4. That is true..........to an extent. Drastic times require drastic measures and besides, this is not all that drastic as virtually all high school and college teams run a traditional 4-3 so our players should remember how to work it and Rivera should be able to do a great job of implementing it like he did with duhBears. Put Jamal and Igor at tackles and Phillips and Merriman at ends. Rotate Castillo and Bingham in at tackle and rotate Cesaire in at end. Put Donnie, oh, too bad we don't still have him, Junior Seau, oh we don't have him either thanks to OJ Smith-put "try covering a tight end sometime" Cooper, "can't get on the field" Wilhelm and either Waters (when he gets 100% healthy from old injury), Siler (Go Gators) or Polk in at the other linebacker spot and rotate in Marquess Harris (Dobbins is not yet ready for prime time-keep him on special teams for now) who has a knack for making big plays whom I think of as "the other guy" to "the OTHER guy". The 4-3 should be simpler to run and with Rivera at the controls and the talent we have we should be able to once again begin to dominate at the line fo scrimmage. The 4-3 will keep Merriman rushing the passer which is what he does best and not have him in coverage which is a stupid idea by Cotrell. Just reading body language and between the lines I think most of the team has already lost confidence in Cotrell and Norval. "Short arms" Olivia was beat like a drum by KC and caused many of Philip's hits and bad passes. We should have kept "long arms" Lekekerker and put him at right tackle and demoted Olivia who was only a 7th round pick anyway. Nice to see Mighty Mite Sproles have some good kick off returns and I do think he is a whisker away from breaking one if he can get better blocking to create a seam. Good job to Nate on his strong kickoffs and solid field goals. Use Malcom Floyd more or even try Kasim Osgood again once in a while. It's ironic that there was talk about releasing Eric Parker (yes he had a bad game in the playoffs) in the offseason but now we have the rude awakening that we need a receiver of his caliber and clutch playmaking ability in the slot. I would like to see much more of Legadu Nanee. Bowe is MUCH BETTER than Buster Davis so far! While Marty is way to smart to come back as coach with Mr. EGO running the team perhaps we could at least convince him to be a "consultant" and deliver a MOTIVATIONAL SPEECH to pay for his 4 Million $ he outsmarted the Chargrers out of. A team takes on the personality of its head coach and that is the root of the problem-our head coach (thanks yet again OJ Smith) has NO personality or fire and is entirely unable to motivate the players who should, with the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they are earning, be able to motivate themselves but obviously are not. Our best players like LT, LoNeal and Gates are soft spoken. Promote Merriman to player/coach and let HIM do the yelling that it is apparent needs to be done to wake them up-the alarm clock certainly didn't do it. C'mon Chargers, it's not too late but I did see the fat lady in the dressing room warming up.

gcharger21 wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:08 PM:Listen, I am as dissapointed as everyone else is with this team right now, but pointing fingers is not going to help them out. Everyone is calling for the Smith execution, but are we going to forget that he is the reason for having the names like Rivers, Merriman, Castillo, Williams, and so on? I also agree that the letting go of Marty was a needed move, but the timeing could not have been worse. With the Wade and Cameron moves there was nothign left to do. Who else was he able to get? No one, Norv was the best choice at the time that the decision had to be made. Quite bickering about blame, and let them figure it out. You know they are going to, and when they do everyone will be praising Smith just like they did after letting Eli Manning slip right through his fingers. How many people tried burning him on the stake after that?

Calling like I see it wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:27 PM:Norv Turner and A.J. Smith are two living, breathing examples of the Peter Principle, i.e., each has been promoted to their level of incompetence. I hope that Philip Rivers hasn't/won't join them. Yes, he played solid last season, but he was lousy in their 3 losses...and doesn't look very good this year, either. Of course, it would have been nice if genius A.J. had addressed the far below average receiving corps over the last few years...and outside of drafting Cromartie, I can't say that the sorry secondary of the last few years has been improved a whole lot, either. I say A.J. must go. Quickly.

Dave R wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:38 PM:Thought it was Vince Jackson who dropped T.D. pass, guess I'm wrong it was Norv Turner. Chargers played only 5 teams with a winning record last year and lost three...they're right on the same schedule? Same team? Where's Cardell, Parker, Edwards? Two most reliable recivers missing. Only open field tackler gone? Top offensive lineman playing injured. What do you expect?

Seamus wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:02 PM:First, for all the anti-Marty folks, I hope you are enjoying your wonderful season without him. How do you fire a 14-2 coach, with a career record that he has? He has been a greatly successful coach, regardless of the playoff losses. He can't catch the ball or run with it. He doesn't fumble, drop passes or muff a punt. Many of his playoff losses were flukie and out of his control. So you Marty hating morons you get what you deserve. AJ's ego and the lovable Spanos family mafia are now your real problems. I predicted 8-8 for this season last Jan, I was over-optimistic apparently.

Bolt4Life wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:23 PM:TO JOHN: I still stand by what I wrote. It makes complete sense to have LT as a decoy on some plays, which explains why he wasn't expecting the ball. I don't think he is infallible, but he should not be getting called out for lacking game sense. If you look at that swing pass in the red zone, he WAS looking right at Rivers. He was expecting the ball and it never came. As far as the "classy" sidebar, I just thought we should give credit where credit is due. We have seen what happens when superstars get shafted--TO, Chad Johnson, etc. True, his class had no bearing on the outcome of the game, but I think it speaks volumes about his character and persona that he is not giving primetime quotes to the horde of reporters in the postgame locker room. TO BASHERS OF RIVERS: C'mon, folks...do you really know what you are saying or asking? Phil has had a HORRIBLE year. He's not making the right decisions and his play is atrocious, but he will pull out of this funk. Volek and Whitehurst will not help shore up the problems with our O-Line or make the receivers any more of a deep threat. Calling for Rivers to walk the green mile is eerily remenicient of Marty's march last year, and look where that has gotten us....

JAMES wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:41 PM:Enough with the LT not looking back...WATCH THE TAPE...HE TURNS AND IS WAITING FOR THE BALL...RIVERS SAID HIMSELF HE HESITATED BECAUSE HE WASN'T SURE WHAT TY LAW WAS GOING TO DO...YOU THINK LT DOESN'T WANT THE BALL IN THAT SITUATION?...PLEASE...RIVERS SHOULD'VE DUMPED IT AND LET LT MAKE A MOVE ON LAW. RIVERS MUST GET HIS HEAD OUT!

John wrote on Oct 1, 2007 3:57 PM:Someone complained about how disorganized and undisciplined the team is, but that firing NORV will not help. WRONG WRONG WRONG. I have been a Redskin fan 60 years. Norv's 7 years were the most frustrating I ever went through. ALWAYS undisciplined and unprepared. One of his statements I will never forget (although, at my age, I can only remember enough to paraphrase it). When asked about the lack of motivation and what he was doing about it, he said, "It is not my job to motivate the players"... they are professionals, they should motivate themselves. To me, that speaks volumes about his coaching skill. He should read a book on Lombardi sometime.

rc wrote on Oct 1, 2007 4:59 PM:Has everyone forgotten Rivers made the Pro Bowl last year? Anyone that says Rivers had plenty of time to throw is either blind or smoking crack. Give it a rest. Yes, he had a bad game. But so did the whole team. What about LT in the flat not looking for the ball, then ducking? Had he not ducked, it wouldn't have been picked. He was just a decoy? Go back to Pop Warner, learn that you have to be ready on every play. Time for all you bandwagonneers to jump off---take Norv with you. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when hired, the doubt is gone. Offseason he talked about giving the ball to the playmakers and we get 6 runs in the 2nd half. What happened to letting LT run the ball on 1rst and goal on the 5? Or 2nd and goal or 3rd? Poor play from 2ndary, offensive line, D-line, receivers. Poor play calling, adjustments, clock management, and basically the worst prepared and least motivated team Iv'e seen in 28 years. I know the players play the game, but Norv is destroying this team with his incompetentcy. The players need to have a players only meeting and lay down they're own law within if they're going to turn it around.

Justin wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:12 PM:you know what's going to be funny? When the Chargers start winning games. I bet this board will start to look a lot different. Granted we do not have a Head Coach, and AJ is a joke, but it's funny when the Chargers are winning, everyone's happy and giddy, buying uniforms, souvenirs, bolts on the back of trucks, and the window flags. But when we're losing, the true colors show. I have been a fan for over 35 years watching Charger games as a child with my Grandfather. I've seen more horrible seasons than good ones, but always watch them regardless. If your a fan, stick with them. I guarantee most of you who bag on them now will either be watching them next week or watch the news to see what happened. If they lose, one more thing to bitch about, but if they win, still something to bitch about.. they win two in a row, then the fans lighten up.. Add another win, then we have the fans back. Regardless who's coaching (granted Norv's not the best), Charger fans always find something to bitch about. For me, I bow my head and think there is always next week. However , at times, it's not a happy thought, but I truly hope there are more sincere fans than this in San Diego. If your fan get on the wagon, if not, get off. More room for those of us who stuck with them.

rc wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:16 PM:Norv had the keys to the Ferrari. He drove the car and let it run out of gas. Now we can either push the car or walk home. Thanks Norv for those options. By the way, what is up with Merriman out on third down and 19? Hey, it wouldn't matter anyway. Has anyone else noticed that on almost every third down they have him in a down stance as a defensive end? Why don't we just put a big neon sign over his head, "MERRIMAN IS HERE!" Great job in disguising what he's going to do coaches. Next game look closly on the sidelines. You'll see Turner and Cottrell huddled up with the Coaching for Dummies handbook.

TX-BOLT wrote on Oct 1, 2007 5:43 PM:To much ..way to much talk.. Some of us Charger fans have some things in common with our team...Chargers...strap it up and lets play...Charger fans stop the crying over spilt milk. Freak marty...Freak Donnie...Support the players / GM/ and Owners who are here and now....support your / our team through tick and thin....Lets go. Go Chargers!!!! With all that has gone on we are 1-2 games out...Lets go Chargers!!!

Jimbo wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:12 PM:1) Get rid of AJ 2) Bring in Marty as GM 3) Get rid of Norv 4) Bring in a coach who knows how to win 5) Sit Rivers...play Volek 6) Get the ball to LT as much as possible 7) Trade Rivers for a defensive backfield

Mo wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:40 PM:I haven't given up on 'em yet, but this next game is HUGE! If they don't make the playoffs, they better play the season out for pride No matter what they still got my support...Chargers!

Roy wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:08 PM:James you are just frustrated and full of excuses now that my PRESEASON call is becoming reality. You claim to know football so well, but if you did you would be right and we would be 3-1 and not 1-3 and on the way to the poor season that I predicted. Heck James even radio commentator Lew Bush echoed my sentiment that Norv's "soft" practices had a real negative effect on this team. You see James it was not a tough call for me to make a few months ago. I watched Fouts practice in his heyday, Humphrey's at his peak, and Brees and Rivers. Do you get the picture? As camp and practices go so go the season. Go back and watch how Marty conducted practices and then compare that to the lackadasical style of Norv. We have lost some of Marty's toughness, sense of urgency, and focus on "one play at a time." Now you say Marty is gone because he is a playoff loser. Well James it sure looks like we will make the playoffs this year! Do you think Norv has a better chance than Marty to go deep? Ha! What a joke! We gotta get there fool before we can win one and Norv has a poor record to prove that he can do it, and his record will get worse as the season unfolds and Norv's style gets more imprinted on this team. I am a Charger fan forever but I call them as I see them and this team made a huge mitake with Norv and Ted.

THE ONE wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:01 PM:So Hmmmmmm? We still on for a new stadium Chula Vista or Oceanside?

It's simple wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:03 PM:get a quarterback. Oh, and while we're at it get rid of Quentin "Damnher".-

rick wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:37 PM:Once again the playcalling was awful, stupid,. How can a coach forget his best weapon in a game like that. I start to beleive that Norv Turner is the problem here. Bad playcalling, no adjustments in the half, cero motivation of the team, lack of trust in his players. This man don?t want to use his receivers or what? There are three things to do an quickly: 1. Fire Ted Cottrel an replace him with Ron Rivera (easy to think an to do) 2. Star to use the receivers, that will get more chances to LT running without 8 defensives waiting form him. 3. Fix the secondary, sit Clinton Hart ando use Weddle, and sit Mr Jammer and start usin Cromartie all the time. We are done for this year, sniiifff.-

Cas wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:00 AM:Though I can understand the frustration of the fans, Marty wasn't and will never be the answer. Though the platform of the offense and defense are relatively the same, the right schemes and plays aren't being called. Our players aren't being given the opportunities to make plays. Our schemes on both sides of the ball are obvious and easily broken down. Weren't we supposed to be a more aggressive defense this year? Right!Instead, we've become predictable and even confused by what we're trying to achieve. Although I'm a bit disappointed with the performances of some individual players, our coaches have to do a better job at putting them in a position to excel. I'm optimistic about the future with the personnel we have. However, time is of the essence, so I don't foresee too much time being given to this staff to right what has obviously been all wrong.-

Cas wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:09 AM:For those of you who feel A.J. should be fired, be quiet! A.J. has done an excellent job and doesn't deserve the negative backlash. I'm sure you all could've done a better job, right! We are four games into the season, relax! Though I don't believe we will make the postseason this year, A.J. will make the necessary adjustments on personnel to make sure we get back. I, like most of you, didn't agree with the hiring of Norv Turner, but it is what it is. On we go, it'll all be alright people... Go Boltz.-

Calling it like I see it wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:34 AM:The Chargers are Dead in the Water. That's not a good thing in the Navy, and it's not a good thing in Mission Valley, either. They are not going to win in Denver. I am a life-long Donkey hater, but even the Chiefs', Raiders', and Chargers' BEST teams have had difficulty playing in Denver. 1 and 4 with a possible victory over the Raiders before the bye week. Thanks, AJ. Well done.-

bigSkyR8r wrote on Oct 2, 2007 11:59 AM:oh, what a difference a year makes..... charger fans, enjoy EVERY win you get this year--there won't be many under "uncle norv". hope you're ready for the bomb the raiders are going to drop on you in two weeks!! at least your uniforms are "pretty"..... theres the "competitive-every-10-years" san diego chargers i've grown to love!! see ya two weeks.. by the way, we're going to run the ball........... xoxo

Zeus wrote on Oct 2, 2007 2:27 PM:You guys just dont get it, Marty can't win playoff games,,,what dont you understand about that?

JAGV wrote on Oct 2, 2007 5:09 PM:Yeah all you guys crying for Marty.... it is a lost cause.. give that up! Lets be realistic. PETE CARROL would be a logical choice and then demote Norv to Offensive coordinator. Norv called the same plays over and over if he is so good offensively then why do we keep trying to squeeze the ball to gates on the sidelines among two and three defenders! His excuse for not sticking with the run game against the Chiefs was that the pass wasnt working.. well with a lead you run run run then punt and let your defense win the game. They continued to pass with thte lead until the passed the lead to Kansas City.They have called the same plays so many times it is rediculous. I am beginning to wonder if Rivers is able to grasp the offense because the bolts seem to have like ten plays that they call on a regular basis and the same set of plays they have called over and over in four straight weeks. No challenge for a defense to figure out who to cover on a passing play just double cover Gates and Jackson and it is game over, put 7 men in the box and the Bolts are shut down. Rivers play action is so pathetic it couldnt fool a high school defense i mean he really doesnt even do the play action well at all (refer to Peyton Manning for the correct way to carry out a play-fake). Sadly that is just one side of the ball. Defense has slipped right back into the same old stuff i have been witness to for 25 years, soft coverage and lack of secondary.The Quick slant is eating the bolts up! they play ten yards deep off almost every reciever they have played so far leaving the slant wide open and the seams even more open. Without a decent star at middle linebacker we have no shot at making the playoffs ( see Donnie Edwards KC chiefs) The simple of it all is A.J. Smith thinks he is gods gift to the football world and his personal matters take priority over what is most important for the team. A.J. wanted to trade Donnie Edwards last year the leading tackler for the bolts on consecutive seasons, he released the star player after last season.Terrance Keil was a solid NFL player who had issues off the field he was a solid safety, he is gone. Keenan MCcardell was a solid reliable reciever no longer with the team (Redskins signed him)and last but not least Marty was a solid coach who turned conservative in the post season, but 12-4 and 14-2 is nothing to scoff at and look what he did for the ground game. Then to top it off A.J. and the Spanos family must have realized the talent level was watered down so they hired a perrinial loser named Norv Turner so they could have a built-in excuse so that when they started to lose there was a scape-goat. Brick hands Jackson is the bolts number one option?? I fully believe that Kasim Osgood has softer hands and could easily relace Jacksons lackluster performances but a number one option they are not. Too bad the Spanos family cant get off some cash and sign a quality free agent. (See the Patriots recieving core for quality free agent WR pick ups, including an ex-Charger whom A.J. Smith thought didnt have enough talent to cut it in the N.F.L. Wes Welker.) To sum all of this up, it isnt the players fault nor the inept coach. It is the Gm A.J. Smith who looked at his group and said we will stand pat on our talent pool and not sign any of the number of huge names the free agent market provided in the off-season

NostraBoltus wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:02 PM:Rivers is our QB. He went to the Probowl last year & he will go again. Fouts didn`t go til what ? year 6 ? I would like to see Nanee get some wr reps while Parker (Rivers Favoraite target} is out. Our O-line can`t protect on long pass routs. Our O is LT rushing & Short precise passes with the occasional long ball. Don`t give up on Rivers he can get it done

Roy wrote on Oct 2, 2007 8:42 PM:Didn't they make a movie about this? Norv and Ted's Bogus Journey?

Matt wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:11 PM:Hey James...I do not think you are watching the same games everyone else is watching. Theres one problem and it is NORV....rivers is playing the best he can play....he needs help from his O line...his receivers catching the balls thrown to on their hands....and for LT to wake up and stop letting the ball hot up side the head....the team has no spark...is not prepared and is so disorganized its crazy...Not to mention the defense is awful....try using some stunts and some schemes...blitz do something besides rush straight up.....horrible....the players are fine it all comes down to coaching and putting them where they need to be and making the correct calls....i dont care who we get just get rid of norv...he is to timid and shows no emotion to get the team ready....keep the faith and show support for your players

JAMES wake up wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:20 PM:James wake up....I dont know what you have against rivers but its only his second year starting and he is by far the least of the teams worries...hes shown he can play....give it a rest....

KDOG wrote on Oct 2, 2007 11:44 PM:This was funny reading the comments from everyone - it's amazing at how people see things so differently. It's kind of like politics - some people believe our country would be better with an open border, higher taxes, no military, and bombs in Chicago, instead of Baghdad. I disagree. Why is it when people complain after being frustrated they are labeled as weak fans? That is such a crock - if anything we are better than true fans because we are passionately... [angry]. We pay big bucks for tickets or the NFL ticket, and we expect more from our team than the crappy performance they've delivered the last 3 games. This doesn't mean we are jumping off the bandwagon - I've been a Charger fan since the 70's so I'll live and die a Charger fan. It's not even the 1-3 record - it's how we've lost that is really embarrassing. The fans that ALWAYS give the benefit of the doubt to the stupid decisions made by AJ and Norv are crazy - they are probably the same fans who are happy the Padres gave it their best shot this year. NOT - we should have got a true power hitter but instead we went with hot-head Bradley and mediocore Barrett. RESULTS - out of the playoffs. Great job Moores at opening up that tiny wallet of yours - I guess you spent too much money in Houston. It should never have come down to a 1-game playoff - we should have won our 3rd straight division title, and than do what we do best - lose in the 1st round to the Phillies. Back to the Chargers - AJ and/or Dean completely screwed up and didn't hire Wade Phillips as the head coach. I like Marty and I would have kept him anyday over Norv Turner, but AJ doesn't work well with him - fine, just pick a better coach to replace him, and for heavens sake - let the head coach pick his own coaches - I hate how AJ has to control everything by forcing Cottrell on whoever took the job. This doesn't mean AJ deserves to be fired - he's a great talent evaluator - he just needs Dean Spanos ... tell him his place in the organization. Can I say Beathard-Ross! People who don't learn from their mistakes repeat them. AJ screwed up and let quality veterans leave like Donnie Edwards and Keenan McCardell - sure, they aren't the best in the league but experience matters. Have you seen the replacements this year? They are sucking! Remember the last players' coach we had - Mike Riley. Just because the players like him doesn't mean diddly. You need a motivator to get the NFL players to play at a high-level. Blaming anything on LT is crazy - it's not his fault Rivers is throwing the ball too early because he doesn't want to be hit again - the biggest problem is the OL isn't showing up this year, and AJ made the decision that young WR talent is better than an experienced WR - another stupid move. Rivers isn't playing great but to already want him gone is beyond stupid. He can't make the WR catch the ball and he can't throw if he has defenders all over him. Final analysis - give Turner a few more games to turn this around. If not, fire him and Cottrell - replace with Rivera and ride out the season. Next year - AJ learn from your mistakes and pick a winner as a coach, and do what NE does (sign some veteran free agents). Good luck being a SD sports fan - it's rough but somebody has to do it.

Northernmost Bolthead wrote on Oct 3, 2007 9:52 AM:Panic in the streets. Just wait 'til Chargers fall a mile (high) to 1-4. But people, it's basically the same team. Norv made too made "tweaks". They will improve, and I'll bet they make the playoffs. But we haven't hit bottom yet. Strap it on and suck it up, Charger fans. And play to the whistle.-

Boltfan wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:20 PM:We finally have the team to make it to the superbowl, but we let a great coach go who took us as far as we've been in a long time... WHY??? It wasn't his fault, The players had one bad game... If Marty was still the coach for the Chargers, I seriously think this would have been their year. Trim the fat now!!! Get norv the loser out...

Boltfan wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:45 PM:Phillip River still rocks!!!