Debate over magnet school continues

By: JENNIFER KABBANY - For The Californian
Parents, teachers asking that campus be converted into charter school | Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:02 AM PDT

Students leave Ronald Reagan Elementary School on Wednesday afternoon. Many parents and employees of Ronald Reagan Elementary are asking that the campus be converted into a charter school. A public hearing on the request is scheduled for 4 p.m. Friday.
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LAKE ELSINORE-- The fate of an embattled magnet school in Lake Elsinore is once again under scrutiny, as many parents and employees of Ronald Reagan Elementary are asking that the campus be converted into a charter school.

A public hearing on the request is scheduled for 4 p.m. Friday at district headquarters, 545 Chaney St. About 420 "letters of intent" from parents who want to enroll their children in the proposed charter school have been collected thus far, lead co-petitioner Edie Esquivel said.

Lake Elsinore Unified School District spokesman Jose Carvajal said officials are taking a close and serious look at the petition, but are far from any decisions.

The lengthy and detailed charter school petition was filed in mid-September and is posted at www.leusdparents.com. The Web site states that with a charter school, parents and teachers could have more control over how the campus is run while still being accountable to the district.

The impetus for the petition came from a heated June school board meeting, at which dozens of parents and teachers passionately pleaded with trustees and administrators over the fate of the school. They asked district leaders not to transfer the school's principal to another campus and to give the 2-year-old school more time to improve its test scores.

"Right after that (June) meeting, the gears started going," Esquivel said of the charter school petition. "We knew what we were saying was falling on deaf ears."

The June appeals were prompted by the transfer of Principal Craig Richter after the campus earned disappointing results on standardized tests. Many of the school's students were deemed underperforming by state standards in math and English based on those tests.

Moreover, the school received an academic state ranking of one on a scale of one to 10, with 10 being the highest, when it was compared to 99 other schools with similar demographics across the state, according to California Department of Education data.

But parents and teachers argued the school needed more time to improve its test scores, that changing gears at the relatively new campus based on one mediocre year of scores would be premature and unfair.

Parents and teachers had said they were concerned the magnet school's emphasis, mainly a teaching method called constructivism, would fall away with Richter's departure.

Under constructivism, the curriculum is presented with an emphasis on big concepts, students' questions are highly valued, pupils are viewed as thinkers with emerging theories about the world and students primarily work in groups. Also, students of varying ages have classes together as part of the program.

In a traditional classroom, concepts are presented with an emphasis on basic skills, curriculum is strictly adhered to, students are viewed as "blank slates," and they mostly work individually.

The charter petition alleges the constructivist teaching method has already begun eroding at the school and accuses district leaders of orchestrating that change.

It goes on to cite examples, including the removal of Richter, one of the biggest proponents of the educational method, the cancellation of constructivist training for teachers and the hiring of "non-constructivist educators," among other issues.

"Parent involvement has virtually gone away, because a lot of them feel it's almost like a nonwelcoming environment," Esquivel said. "It doesn't feel like a community, like a collaborative school anymore."

Carvajal, however, said parents are always welcome, as is constructivism.

"We have not changed the constructivist program," he said. "Teachers are still using the method, and we are encouraging that."

Esquivel also said parents and teachers are pleased with the school's latest round of test scores, which showed marked improvement from the prior year.

The school's Academic Performance Index score, handed down by state education officials based on standardized test results, went from a 759 in 2006 to a 778 this year. District officials also are encouraged by the results, Carvajal said.

"We think Ronald Reagan is headed in the right direction," he said.

Still, district leaders' heavy emphasis on the school meeting the California Department of Education's goal of 800 on its Academic Performance Index is not what many of the parents and educators at the campus consider their highest priority, Esquivel said.

"We keep hearing '800, 800, 800, 800'; that is essentially what this year is about," Esquivel said. "But you can't base a child's education on one test score. It limits their development."

Under the petition, Ronald Reagan Elementary would eventually become a campus that serves kindergarten through eighth-grade students, employs a constructivist educational approach and uses multiage classrooms.

It also calls for extended-school programs, the use of organic food, technology, academic interventions and a variety of after-school clubs, among other efforts.

"By converting to a charter school, we put Ronald Reagan Elementary School in the hands of our committed educators and dedicated parents," the Web site states.

IF YOU GO

A public hearing has been scheduled on a petition to convert Ronald Reagan Elementary School from a magnet school to a charter school:

When: 4 p.m. Friday

Where: 545 Chaney St., Lake Elsinore

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Time for a Cool Cool Change wrote on Oct 10, 2007 11:23 PM:If you support this proposal, I suggest you get there early. At the last Board hearing on a proposed charter school, ...leaving very few seats for the public. We can only hope we're not treated to the same lengthy hype replete with paranoid stories, weepy lament about loss of funding at the other schools in the district if a charter school opens and hostility toward anyone who dared speak in favor of a charter. Property owners who live in the district have NO CHOICE about paying for government-run schools, but they do have the right to be heard during public comment. Let's hope the Board hears what the public is saying and perhaps, this time, pays heed. We're 20+ years past the 1980s, and the makeup of the district has changed markedly. The hundreds of new families that have moved into this district are not all happy campers - no matter how much closer the District may be inching toward that almighty 800 mark. Bottom Line: We want a CHOICE in the types of schools our children attend. We're asking the LEUSD Board to advocate - not dictate.-

Why don't you just open a private school wrote on Oct 11, 2007 11:29 AM:Why must the school district give up a school they spent millions building and staffing so some parents who want their children to be different can learn a different way?? The school district has 22,000 kids to think about, and making Reagan a Charter school doesn't make sense!! I don't even have children, yet my tax dollars are being spent on the education of your kids, shouldn't I have a say in how the school is run?? And yes, we do have a say, it's called go to a school board meeting and voice your opinion!! I know you said you have before, but others who whine about it, get off your butts and be heard!!

Stop the nonsense wrote on Oct 11, 2007 4:24 PM:I wonder if all of the upset Reagan parents should actually consider endorsing making Railroad Canyon elementary school a charter school? Oh yes, it is probably not in the proper neighborhood. Mr. Richter is now there and still is a fine principal to LEUSD students. Taking one of the newest campuses and giving MY tax dollars to support making Reagan a charter school is not acceptable. Perhaps these same parents who are so upset should pay for private schools for their children since the Reagan education program in place does not meet their expectations any longer. The entire community is paying for Reagan elementary not just a select few. Reagan belongs to all of us local taxpayers. To those who feel the need for a charter school, start your own then and quit whining!

Teacher wrote on Oct 11, 2007 4:58 PM:I think it's time the teachers at RRE stop their whining and moaning and focusing all their energy on getting the school a charter and start focusing their energy on TEACHING! The students are missing out on a proper education and are being put in the middle of this situation. If they want their own school, let them go find their own place. Lots of charter schools have their own places without taking away from the rest of the students who just really want to learn.

Frustrated wrote on Oct 12, 2007 6:06 AM:This has become just a bunch of name calling. What a great example to our children! For those that think this is about teachers not getting their way, you are so wrong. This is about people, teachers and parents who believe in an education that LEUSD at one time voted and approved and no longer supports. In the above article, a district spokesperson says that constructivism is welcomed. This is from someone who has not observed any classroom teaching on the campus. What the district cares about is only the test scores. Period. Their slogan for this year is "turn up the heat". I don't know if this offends any of you, but I don't want my child under that kind of pressure. I want her to achieve and to learn, but when you turn up the heat, you create an atmosphere for the children to get burned! The comment above which says to go to the board meeting and let your voice be heard, unfortunately, the board has no real intention of listening to you or anyone else. If you were at the June 7th board meeting, there were many who let their voice be heard and not a thing happened. Fortunately for those who believe in this educational choice, LEUSD BOE is not the final answer....-

PS wrote on Oct 12, 2007 9:48 AM:to: Stop the nonsense, First off I would endorse a change at any school which my child attended if it was for their betterment, Second you do have a right to voice yur opinion about yur tax dollars as do I. The Majority of parents and teaching staff at Ronald Reagan felt a need to make a change in the BOE decisions and took the actions we felt appropriate to effect our beliefs, now we are attempting to start our own Charter School. For the commment about "whining," this is the act of complaining without taking action. The proponents of this Charter Schol have taken action and done more then just voice their complaints on an editorial page. The proponents have given up their own personal time, efforts and money to make this a reality, they have earned the right to voice their opinion. As for the opponents of the Charter School, what have you done to merit the right to complain?-

Teacher wrote on Oct 12, 2007 8:29 PM:To PS...What have I done to deserve the right to complain? I teach children in a public school setting who do not have everything handed to them on a silver platter. I take students who are below grade level and help them catch up. I help every student reach their potential every year. And, I do it by following the guidelines the district has set for teachers. Do I always like it and think they are right? No, but I do it to benefit my students. Just beacuse I don't support the charter school, I still have a right to complain and express my opinion. /

Teacher wrote on Oct 14, 2007 1:16 PM:For "to Teacher"...I think you must have me confused with someone else. I was a lucky one and was able to escape relatively unharmed from the mayhem created by the Charter School plans at RRE. I went in to RRE with the plans of teaching my students and working with the staff, only to have the staff working on their own agenda. I didn't do anything to fight dirty, I just left and went to a place where teachers focus on teaching rather than stabbing each other in the back.

to Teacher wrote on Oct 14, 2007 7:00 PM:It's still a good habit to wash your hands!

Let's really put the kids first wrote on Oct 14, 2007 7:27 PM:To quote, "This has just become alot of name calling. What a great example to our children!" Why are the children even a part of this? Some things need to be kept at an adult level. They should have no worries over this at all. However, kids are coming home in tears and great concerns over RRE becoming a Charter. They don't understand what a Charter is. How are they hearing about it? At school. Not from their parents!

To Let's really wrote on Oct 15, 2007 4:58 PM:I find it very hard to believe the children are taking part in the School Duel. The teachers are certainly not talking to students about this issue! Kids talk to kids. That is where they are hearing about it. Tell a child not to discuss a subject with their friends, and that is the first thing they WANT to talk about. Even if you are a perfect parent, you do slip and say things you do not want your children to repeat. Thats LIFE. It's not rainbows and gumdrops.

PS wrote on Oct 15, 2007 8:50 PM:To "Teacher wrote on Oct 12" As I have always said everyone has a right to voice their opinions, the true test of your beliefs however, comes from actions not words. Teaching is a noble profession, but it is still a job you get paid for. Doing your job entitles you to a pay check, doing your job and then taking the actions you belive in without expecting anything more then the satisfaction of knowing you are doing the right thing entitles you to much more. As a parent who takes an active interest in what goes on at my childs school (RRE)I can tell they are being taught and still learning. From what I saw at the Oct 12th, 2007 board meeting, the only ones who showed opposition to the charter made no comment as to the fate of how our children will be affected by the charters learning program, only how this change will affect the pay checks and pensions.

Future Wildomar City resident wrote on Oct 16, 2007 11:38 PM: Next year the citizens of Wildomar vote on City Incorporation, if it succeeds RRE and other schools will be within the City of Wildomar and eventaully under the sphere and control of the Wildomar School District, unless of course they elect to join a combined district with anyone of it's bordering cities like Murietta etc. Let's see a Charter School which means less budget worries for a new City. Smart ecomnomics would say its in the best interest of all to grant the Charter. If and when the City of Wildomar becomes an incorported City, new politicians will emerge, people within the community will take an active interest in this new City, people like those who are willing to go out on a limb, people like those willing to write and propose a Charter School. People like those who are willing to give up their own personal time effort and money for our greatest legacy , OUR CHILDREN. To the LEUSD, change is in the air! P.S. Can anyone tell me of a Charter School that does not have a waiting list of children trying to get in!! Why is that...?

NO to Reagan Charter wrote on Oct 18, 2007 1:17 AM:This is really silly that the parents, teachers, etc. would even think they could turn Ronald Reagan into a Charter school. What a bunch of nonsense. Any board in their right mind would not go for that and I as a taxpayer would hope they would not even consider it. I do not vote for officials so they will blow in the wind to several whiny people. I vote for officials who will make the right decision and keeping Ronald Reagan as is is the right decision. By the way, there will never be a Wildomar Unified School District. Canyon Lake is a city, but it doesn't have a school district of its own. It belongs to the Lake Elsinore Unified School District. Horsethief Canyon, of Corona, is in the Lake Elsinore Unified School District. City boundaries and school boundaries are nothing alike. Bottom line, the primary education is in the home. Guide your kids, teach your kids and love your kids. After that, secondary education is just that ... secondary.

Future Wildomar City resident wrote on Oct 18, 2007 8:38 AM:to: "NO to Reagan Charter," Uing the word NEVER to address the issue regarding a Wildomar Unified District is pretty arrogant. When incorporated a City has dominion and control over issues including if they want their own school district or would like to merge with another district, just as it is with fire and law enforcement issues. Canyon Lake uses the Elsinore School District because it choses to. ... Of course I saw no response to the question regarding why Charter Schools have a waiting list of children trying to get in. P.S. NEWS FLASH you are not the only one who pays taxes and votes!

Murrieta Tthird Party wrote on Oct 18, 2007 9:35 AM:After reading the comments from "future Wildomar resident" and "NO to Reagan Charter" I can only say that the City of Murrieta wasn't incorporated until 1991 and formed it's own school district, the Murrieta Valley School District. This included its own school board. To say an incorporated City of Wildomar will never have it's own school district is pretty presumtive. School districts are comprised of people not buildings. Personally I would ask myself why a group of individuals are trying to take control of their childrens education, from a school district that does not have a good reputation in Riverside County. Why is it one of the primary questions asked when people decide to move from one area to another is, "What are the schools like? " I must say I admire the passion both sides have on the issue, but from what I have seen of the fight for incorporation by the Wildomar residents, this is just the tip of the iceberg, I believe this will soon be an issue of what school district do we go with not shpould we allow a charter school.

Got Charter Website? wrote on Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM:Tried to find LEUSD parent website today and it is gone? Have the Charter movers and shakers finally dried up and blown away with their fruitless cause??

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