New Joint Chiefs chairman gets blunt questions from Army captains about strain of Iraq service
By: LOLITA C. BALDOR - Associated Press | ∞
FORT SILL, Okla. -- Army captains who represent the military's future pelted the new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff with blunt questions Tuesday about the strain of long war deployments.
The officers, who are students in the Artillery Captain's Career Course at Fort Sill, also asked about recruiting pressures that could leave them supervising more soldiers with discipline problems.
At times technical and other times very personal, the officers reflected the worries of a military struggling to fight two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan without exhausting troops, alienating their families or driving soldiers away.
Navy Adm. Michael Mullen, four weeks into the new job, didn't have all the answers -- or the ones they were hoping for, during a 90-minute forum. But in his first trip to get to know the Army better, Mullen collected e-mail addresses and promised fuller responses later.
The long and repeated battlefield deployments were a prime topic.
One year at war and one year back at home "is not good enough" one officer flatly told Mullen, setting the tone early for the discussion.
After explaining that the Pentagon is hoping to stretch the time at home to 15 months for every year deployed, then go to two years at home and then three, Mullen acknowledged those goals are years down the road.
"I got it -- that it's not good enough," said Mullen. "I take your point, that one-to-one is not good enough."
Asked if overall time in combat should be capped, Mullen cautiously replied that battlefield experience is crucial, but he agreed that "there are limits beyond which you will not stay."
Mullen, a career naval officer, has said he is concerned about the effects of the wars on the Army. He's visiting three Army bases in Oklahoma and Kansas this week and meeting recruiters at a conference in Denver.
Soldiers in Oklahoma, many of whom have served two battlefield tours, spoke at length about the pressures on their families, and how those can push them out of the service.
Officials at Fort Sill allowed journalists to listen to the discussion but asked that the names of the soldiers not be used on grounds that could inhibit them from speaking openly.
"When it becomes a burden to my family, it becomes repulsive," said one captain, who told Mullen that he wants a stable assignment so his wife can go to school but said he was told that "family considerations don't play a role" in such planning decisions.
Mullen grimaced as the officer said he was preparing to leave the Army because of the problems.
"We can't not take family considerations into account," Mullen said. "That is just not the case in 2007. It can't be the case if we're going to have a healthy force."
But Mullen also told soldiers that while he would like to be able to predict deployments of the future or what the state of the world conflicts will be, he can't.
Echoing Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey, Mullen said the U.S. will likely be involved in persistent conflicts for some years to come.
In rapid fire, the Army officers moved from questions about war tours, to efforts to repair and replace equipment and worries about the increased use of waivers to let soldiers with criminal records serve.
One captain said that during his recent tour in Iraq he spent long hours every night dealing with problem soldiers, troops who went away without leave or had other issues.
Mullen said that pressure to bring in enough recruits to increase the size of the Army has triggered a greater use of waivers, but he has seen no data showing increased disciplinary problems.
"To some degree, the jury's out," said Mullen. "We're very mindful the potential is there."
On the upside, Mullen said the Army is the best trained and equipped in the world and is a model for other countries. The question, he said, is: "How do I hang on to all of that?"
And he challenged the officers to use their time at school to come up with ideas to solve the problems and get them to their superiors.
Mullen later flew to Fort Leavenworth in Kansas and spoke to about 800 military students at the Command and General Staff College. During questions there he heard many of the same issues, as well as broader questions about military strategy, the Middle East and the ongoing effort to send more soldiers to work in training teams for the Iraq and Afghan armies.
Mullen said later that he was not surprised by the concerns expressed by the officers.
"Based on my expectations, I think what I heard is what I expected," he said. "It validates where I think we are and it also validates the need as a priority to figure out a way to relieve that stress."
The leadership of the Army and the Marine Corps, he added, are addressing the issues and "it's not going to be an overnight fix."
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Worth Repeating wrote on Oct 23, 2007 9:34 PM:As Rush Limbaugh would say "What a bunch of Phoeny Soldiers".
Injustice wrote on Oct 24, 2007 4:55 AM:I am pretty tired of people taking comments out of context in order to support their own political agenda. Just like John Kerry's stuck in Iraq comment, "phony soldiers" was a term used to describe a person who was actually convicted of falsely claiming to be a soldier who committed war crimes. There are a lot of people who say controversial things so there is no need to create incorrect interpretations of what people say. Liberal or Conservatives need to stop acting like slime and act like Americans who have the best interest of the Country in mind and not what's best for their political party.
John wrote on Oct 24, 2007 11:27 AM:Injustice clearly has hearing and reading disabilities because, as anyone who can read and hear knows, Limbaugh was talking in the plural about members of the military who don't agree with the current policy in Iraq. It's a no-brainer if one listens to or reads the transcript to that show. It's Limbaugh and Beck and Hannity and their ilk that are acting like slime.
Future Army Dad?? wrote on Oct 24, 2007 1:39 PM:My son asked me about Army service after high school. Why would I recommend he join when military and their families are so badly taken advantage of? I am turning in my Republican credentials for libertarian seing how shabbily we deploy and support our troops. Let W go to Iraq for 4 tours in a row and see how he would use the military then...
USMCDad wrote on Oct 25, 2007 9:36 PM:Bush-bots, please now tell us how those Army Captains are a bunch of appeasing, unpatriotic wussies for challenging the "authorities" and not wanting to wreck their families and their lives for "victory" in Iraq.
Authority- wrote on Oct 26, 2007 10:12 AM:How many 15 month tours- 0ne, two,three,four, and when does it become abuse or our military resources? Why is our borders not secure? Questions!
To John wrote on Oct 26, 2007 10:51 AM:I have listened to the the replay and read the transcripts regarding Limbaugh. He was taken out of context the same way John Kerry was taken out of context. You miss the point. Liberal or Conservative people are throwing accusations and taking comments out of context. Quit trying to read into things.
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