Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:29 AM:Hello everyone. Sorry, our system got overwhelmed by the volume of comments and went down for a bit, but everything should be back up and running now, so feel free to ask your questions again. I'll be here through the night with you to answer as many as I can. Thanks.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:34 AM:Escondido Resident -- The county has updated its fire burn map at 11:30 p.m. to give you a better idea of the damage area. Here's the link: http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/10242007_2330hrs_Evac_FirePerem_low72.pdf

MG at Pala wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:34 AM:Looking for info regarding the fire near Pauma and Road closure info leading into and out of Pala/Pauma area. Thanks, MG

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:38 AM:Hi MG -- Here's the latest road closure information I've got: Highway closures ---- According to the California Department of Transportation, the following closures are currently in effect as of 5:30 p.m: -- Interstate 5 truck scale station -- Interstate 15 at the northbound and southbound ramps to Mission Road -- Intestate 15 at the northbound and southbound ramps to West Bernardo/Pomerado Road -- State Route 67 from Slaughterhouse Canyon Road to State Route 78/State Route 79 -- State Route 76 from Pankey Road to State Route 79 -- State Route 78 from San Pasqual Valley Road to Santa Ysabel/State Route 79 -- State Route 79 between State Route 78 and State Route 76 -- State Route 94 from Steele Canyon to Forest Gate -- State Route 94 eastbound just east of Potrero Valley Road -- State Route 94 westbound just west of Potrero Valley Road -- State Route 188 Tecate Port of Entry Restrictions remain in place for high-profile vehicles on Interstate 8 from Alpine to the Imperial County Line. Road closure updates are available by telephone at (619) 688-6670.

Anonymous wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:38 AM:Any pictures of the fires North of Fallbrook?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:41 AM:Anonymous -- We do not have much north of Fallbrook at this point, but should have more tomorrow.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:44 AM:For those of you asking about damage areas, the county has just updated it's assessment list for structures that were damaged Wednesday, we'll be putting in "Breaking News" shortly, and you can find the list at sdcountyemergency.com

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:48 AM:Vistan -- The official cause of the Witch Creek Fire is still under investigation. Multiple media sources have reported that it was possibly caused by a downed power line.

WestIvyKeith wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:49 AM:Is the power on in downtown/NW fallbrook? My answering machine on W Ivy is no longer picking up as of about 10pm.

worried oside resident wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:54 AM:are they evacuating in oceanside???? i woke up and looked out my backyard and can now see orange coming from camp pendleton. still away some. can you update on the fire there???

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 1:55 AM:WestIvyKeith -- SDG&E is reporting many outages throughout Fallbrook, but nothing specifically in the the northwest region. The largest outage is being reported at Pala Mesa Resort, effecting up to 2,000 customers, with an estimated fix of later this morning. The next closest reported outage is at Camp Pendleton.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:00 AM:Worried Oside Resident -- There are no evacuation orders in place in Oceanside at this time. The most up-to-date information I have on the Horno/Ammo Fire is below. It's from the CalFire Web site and updated at 7:53 p.m. (note the information line at the bottom): The Horno/Ammo Fire has burned 10,000 acres since October 23. It is currently 40-50 percent contained. Sections of that fire have threatened Interstate 5, causing its closure from Highway 76 to San Onofre. The Horno Fire has two heads, one north toward San Onofre and one south toward Pulgas Rd. Camp Pendleton authorities have relocated the residents of one housing area, San Onofre 1 and 2, to San Mateo. That relocation, which affected approximately 800 family members, was a precautionary measure in light of the proximity of the Horno fire. Horno/Ammo Fire Information Line (866) 430-2764.

Rod wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:03 AM:Lake Elsinore area ?

WestIvyKeith wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:06 AM:Thanks MD. sdcountyemergency.com's 12:35 am map shows no active burn areas in fallbrook. Can anyone confirm? If this is true it would be great.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:08 AM:Hi Rod -- The Rosa Fire info is as follows: Rosa Fire Near Temecula Riverside County This fire has burned 411 acres and is 100 percent contained. Two outbuildings were destroyed by this fire. Evacuations have been lifted and residents are allowed to return to their homes. All roads are open. 223 firefighters are assigned to this incident under CAL FIRE command. The cause of this fire is arson. Rosa Fire Information Line (951) 940-6985.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:25 AM:WestIvyKeith -- Fire officials are reporting little or no change in the Rice Canyon fire since CalFire's last update at 7:55 p.m., which was as follows: This fire has burned 9,000 acres in Rice Canyon in Northern San Diego County and is 20 percent contained. 206 homes, 2 commercial properties and 40 outbuildings have been destroyed. 1,500 homes are threatened currently. 35,000 people have been evacuated from the communities of Fallbrook and Deluz Canyon. Camp Pendleton and Oceanside are threatened. One firefighter injury has been reported. 1,095 firefighters are assigned to this fire under unified command.

Diane wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:41 AM:I wanted to know what the status is on the fire on Palomar Mountain, the Poomacha fire? And, how close is it, to the county line? Also, on the Rice fire, now that it is shifted north?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:46 AM:Diane -- The most recent fire map from the county shows that no progression of the Rice Canyon Fire toward the county line and the Poomacha Fire with a active line that's actually pushed further south than the map at 4 p.m. Here's the link: http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/10242007_2330hrs_Evac_FirePerem_low72.pdf

Buddy wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:50 AM:We are on the riverside border of De Luz, on De Luz Rd. Is the Rice fire a current danger to us?

temecula wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:51 AM:What kind of winds are expected in the morning and would they push either Rice Canyon or Poomacha north and east into Temecula? Or would they push them more to the west? Are the Pendleton fires any threat to make it further inland? Finally, is Witch in hand?

steve wrote on Oct 25, 2007 2:52 AM:is there any news on the fires merging in south east temecula (palomar mt. to pechanga area) and is there any news on whether or not that area well or well not be evacutated??

View from Fire Mt. wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:00 AM:Looking north over from the rear of Lincoln jr. high, Crouch Street Sprinter is below- is this the Horno fire? (oven fire, great, the Spanish are probably laughing at all the names we've used..) http://17500mph.com/63.jpg - taken about an hour ago. it's since subsided but is now slightly re-appearing.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:06 AM:Buddy -- The Rice Canyon fire shows no growing fire line on the latest map from the county (12:30 a.m.).

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:08 AM:Steve -- The Poomacha Fire line has actually moved to the south from where it was eariler in the day on the latest information from the county. Here's the latest county fire line map: http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/10242007_2330hrs_Evac_FirePerem_low72.pdf

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:15 AM:Temecula -- Right now, winds are mild throughout the region, according to the National Weather Service, with a forecast of more light winds throughout the day and night.

temecula wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:17 AM:darn good news. Thanks, Michael.

steven wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:18 AM:when will residents in pala mesa (who still have a home) be allowed to go back?

Leslie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:18 AM:Is there any news on the San Luis Rey gate fire on Pendleton? Also, a current fire map? We live on Olive Hill (Fallbrook) and would like to know why we seem to have an extra large police presence in our area? Does anyone know if we will be able to go into Fallbrook for groceries on Thursday? Thank you.

Donna wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:23 AM:I just spoke with the guy at the Riverside County Fire Information Hotline (you have the # on your website). Basically, they don't have good communication with SD County Fire people. They seem to pretty much wait until its really close to the county line before they get involved!? They don't know what is being predicted about the fire's movements by San Diego. Living in S.E. Redhawk, you can imagine that I might be concerned about going to bed tonight! The wind has changed directions which has the smoke from the existing fire hanging over our neighborhood, it seems logical to expect the fire to follow. I know its 12 miles, but with a good strong wind we know how quickly a fire can move that distance! Is anyone working on coordinating information between the two counties on the Poomacha Fire and the Rice Canyon Fire, since both border the county line with Riverside?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:26 AM:Steven, Leslie -- Sorry to say there's still no word on when the evacuation order in Fallbrook will be lifted, but the current fire map from the county shows no active fire line in Fallbrook. As for the back gate area, I've not heard any updates on that fire overnight. The current fire map from the county can be found here: sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/10242007_2330hrs_Evac_FirePerem_low72.pdf

Denise wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:29 AM:Are the animals safe at the wild animal park?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:44 AM:Denise -- The Wild Animal Park reported Wednesday that two animals had died from fire-related issues, a bird and a kiang (horse family).

Judy wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:47 AM:Denise, You can go to www.sandiegozoo.com for an update on the Wild Animal Park. Their website says that all but two of their 3,500+ animals are fine. Two animals died from complications related to the fire. The park may reopen today.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:50 AM:Denise -- The Wild Animal Park reported Wednesday that two animals had died from fire-related issues, a bird and a kiang.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 3:53 AM:If you've not seen it, we've posted our most up-to-date damage list in our "Top Stories"

LINDA wrote on Oct 25, 2007 4:11 AM:MY SISTER LIVES ON RICHE RD. HER HOME HAS RED AND YELLOW TAPE ON IT. SHE HAS NOT SEEN HER HOME YET. SOMEONE CALLED HER AND TOLD HER IT IS STILL THERE. WHAT DOES THE TAPE MEAN.

Harry wrote on Oct 25, 2007 4:45 AM:I am in Hong Kong and would like to know how the area of De Luz Road above just North of Pico is doing -are there any fires in the area?

Frank wrote on Oct 25, 2007 4:46 AM:Does anyone know if we can return to Fallbrook yet,we are just up from the high school

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 4:48 AM:Frank -- The mandatory evacuation order for all of Fallbrook remains in place as of 4:47 a.m. this morning. There's been no indication as to when it may be lifted.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 4:51 AM:Hi Harry -- The county just updated its fire perimeter map. You can find it here: http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/10252007_0230hrs_Evac_FirePerem_low72.pdf

CurtfromRainbow wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:13 AM:It appears that only one home burned on Rice Canyon, and it was were the power line fell at dead man's curve. The fire did burn up to alot of homes as it burned south and west towards Fallbrook, but the firefighters did a great job and saved them. I am unable to tell you about the Rainbow Glenn area, other than the mobile home park there is safe. Right now there is a light Santa Ana blowing at 6 mph.

Debbie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:29 AM:I read in one of the articles that "some" residents may be able to return to Fallbrook "by the weekend". Are you kidding me? We need more resources devoted to the repopulation effort in Fallbrook. Why are so many other areas returning and not us? The lack of information from authorities is appalling.

Shana wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:29 AM:Harry my son got in late last night and we live in that area,, he came in from Temecula through De Luz Canyon, houses in the area you speak of are safe right now

curious wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:31 AM:Last night they were talking about a fire coming up over the hills by Lake Elsinor. Does anyone know what fire that was and if it did?

Warren wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:31 AM:Can you update us on the status of the Welk Resort?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:36 AM:Curious -- I don't know what report you were listening to, but my guess is they may have feared the Horno Fire on Camp Pendleton could head northeast toward Lake Elsinore. The most recent update from the county shows that fireline still within Pendleton borders.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:39 AM:Warren -- Sorry, I have no specific information about Welk Resort, but the Rice Canyon Fire shows no active fire line on the most recent county fire map from 2:30 a.m.

Susan wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:39 AM:We, and 35,000 other fallbrookers are stuck in Orange County, with no San Diego news - when can we go home?

anything wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:40 AM:any news on where in Valley Center a fire is burning

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:41 AM:Hi Susan -- I am sorry to say there's been little news as to when the evacuation order will be lifted in Fallbrook, but the most current county map shows no active fire line on the Rice Canyon Fire.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:48 AM:Anything -- The most recent county fire map shows some pockets of active fire activity on the east portion of Valley Center. You can find the map here: http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/10252007_0230hrs_Evac_FirePerem_low72.pdf

Anonymous wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:57 AM:As I was able to drive in Fallbrook just west of mission rd right when u get off of the 15 I saw mostly vegetation burned. Only one or two houses there looked burned. If u know the area the CDF station there was not burned, nor those plant nurseries around there.

Stage Coach Bob wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:59 AM:From S. Stage Coach Lane just north of the Riders' Field: All is calm here, and nothing has changed in a day and a half. I took a drive yesterday afternoon. Reche Rd. is closed to traffic between Green Canyon and Old 395. Went down Gird Rd. all the way to the 76, where it was blocked off, and saw absolutely no signs whatsoever of any fire damage all the way down Gird. Doubled back and went up Stage Coach and out Mission toward the 15, saw very little fire damage except for charred trees and roadside brush near Megan's Bluff. Apparently most of the damage is down in the Live Oak area and north of Megan's Bluff. Had to turn around before the I-15 junction due to road closure. The good news is that, although there must be lots of damage somewhere, It was hard to see any driving around. The town is fine - most everything's closed except Major Market. My wife tried to get in from Temecula yesterday afternoon and couldn't find a way past the road blocks, but was told they might start escorting people in a few at a time soon. I really don't see the need to keep people away for another day or two. Right now I can see stars in the sky, so the smoke is clearing too.

Anonymous wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:01 AM:For residents of fallbrook, I went down willow creek and riverside drive and it looked like most if not all of the houses there were saved mainly vegetation. I am hearing that that fire (rice Fire) is under control so far. there is national guard patrolling through fallbrook as well as a bunch of law enforcement.

mo in dc wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:01 AM:md - You're doing yeoman's work. NCT is lucky to have you.

Anonymous wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:09 AM:The only fires that can be seen are on Pendleton as of now, still look far from Fallbrook, I can see them from the weapon station. Mostly all of the Fire Dept from fallbrook are heading to Camp Pendleton near lake oneill to meet up and check the current situation here on Pendleton. Fallbrook still looks good out there so dont get stressed thinking u have lost anything

curious wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:10 AM:Iget only LA news. This morning they are reporting that the fire I was curious about is the Santiago fire. It said that you can see the glow from Lake Elsinor. They said it was 50% contained last night, but only 30% this morning. Any other news on the Santiago fire? Could it come over the hill?

Elsie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:14 AM:I used to lived in Fallbrook and still have many friends living there. I'm trying to find out if they are fine and their homes are okay. They live mostly on S.Ridge Drive and N. Ridge Drive off Live Oak Park Road, Los Alisos N Lane and Fallen Leaf and the Community Baptist Church. Any Info will be very much appreciated. We're praying for all of you.

Zach wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:14 AM:What is the status of the Eagle Crest residential area near the Wild Animal park? Thanks!

Anonymous wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:18 AM:If anybody wants info on Deluz area, we drove around there yestarday and that area looked good, Did not see any houses burned around there. I am confirming with stage coach bob's comment that megan's bluff is in great condition, just all around it is burned

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:18 AM:Curious -- CalFires was reporting Santiago as only 30 percent contained last night at 7 p.m. The Los Angeles Times was reporting this morning that the fire was threatening Williams Canyon and Hamilton Truck Trail.

Fern wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:22 AM:I can confirm bob's report. No signs of fire on Gird Rd. Live Oak Park is fine. I can't believe they won't let the people in Fallbrook return. Most of the town cooperated with the evacuation orders. If residents are not allowed back in soon, I'm afraid you will have a lot more people staying in there homes and ignoring evacuation orders next time.

Joe wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:27 AM:I agree with Fern I was thinking the same thing yesterday, next time I won't leave til I see the flames, of course I hope there isn't a next time. Let us get back to our homes and our lives.

Anonymous wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:28 AM:Hello I am an MP here at Weapons station fallbrook, I have been around Fallbrook and it looks to be in really goos shape as well as De Luz area. The Only parts of Fallbrook that were burned were by 15 right off of mission rd, mostly vegetation there, no houses were damaged in that area, If anyone knows the "PALMS 4U" nursery is still in one piece, didn't catch on fire, the other new nursery there is good, mostly vegetation on both sides. Please be patient with us we are waiting for the evacuation to be lifted as well, Last night fallbrook was smoky today is not so bad, alot of the smoke got pushed out it seems. I think everyhting west of mission road near Macadamia was untouched if I can remember right, it looked really good north of mission road too but hard to see past a few hundred feet because the smoke was so bad. I think Fallbrook is under control, we have had numerous fire trucks come through enroute to Camp Pendleton so that is a sign that Fallbrook fires could be under control. Thank you for being patient, Im trying to help anyway I can

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:33 AM:Hi Zach -- I don't have specific information on that neighborhood, but I can tell you there is no active fire line there now, according to the latest county map. I would suggest checking our list of structure damage online for more help. You can find it here: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/25/news/top_stories/1_12_0010_24_07.txt

Debbie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:34 AM:Fern's comment is so true. Many people evacuated not because they sensed imminent danger but because they were just "following the rules". In some areas, where there was never any imminent danger AND there has been power during the entire period, residents are likely to ignore the evac orders next time. Let us in NOW if our homes are undamaged and we still have power.

RL wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:36 AM:For Linda-the tape on your sister's house means that due to evacuations the firefighters went door-to-door to be sure all residents were evacuated. It lets others know that the house is evacuated, and lets the other fire/policemen know they do not have to check that house again for residents.

Ann wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:37 AM:I will not believe them when they give us a next "mandatory evacuation." I will stay put, as did many of my neighbors and as did apparently many other Fallbrook citizens. This long stay away from perfectly good and safe homes is working a terrible hardship on people. If the fire, which never came closer than about 7 miles is now on the ground, keeping us out even 1/2 day more is ludicrous on somebody's part. I'm assuming they think God died and left them in charge. We obeyed and got out when they told us to. At this point, keeping us out is just plain wrong!

Stage Coach Bob wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:39 AM:Correction to my previous post: I said Reche was closed from Green Canyon; I meant to say closed from Gird Road to Old 395. Sorry. Everything west of Gird Road looks great.

Fred wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:48 AM:Is the power back on in Fallbrook (Macadamia area)? I thought it was still off, but someone mentioned that the power was on.

To Ann wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:50 AM:I agree it is really hard to be evacuated and then stuck out. I too am in your situation. Fire has gone through my area, now I want to go home and take care of my property. Neighbors didn't go and are there. I left due to getting animals out. Tv news coverage is terrible. Today it looks like I have to hear about how others are returning to normal. The worst part is the CHP are rude, just like when they give you tickets.

susan wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:52 AM:any info on the de luz area, rock mountain/gavilan mountain split. fire maps show it red. dad lives there, was evac monday. anyone know if any homes lost?????? dad worried sick!

Debbie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:53 AM:MD - When will there be an announcement of some sort? They've said they're putting together a plan since yesterday. So when will we hear about it?

stat guy wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:53 AM:Are Scott & Teresa Fisher O.K.?(He's principal at Poway High)

westivyHM wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:56 AM:I too would not follow the orders to leave if ever there is a next time. But we hope there will never be a next time! Enough is enough, but do you think they are keeping us out so liar Bush can come in and tell us what a great job he is doing for us?

Don wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:57 AM:I have seen too many conflicting reports on the various maps of the area just south of the Fallbrook Golf Club on Gird Rd. I live on Skycrest Dr. just west of Gird and south of the golf course. Please, does anyone have good, solid information on the status of homes in my area. Thanks, Don

VICTORIA wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:57 AM:DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE 15 S IS OPEN TO GET FROM MURRIETA TO SAN MARCOS?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:00 AM:Victoria -- The I-15 is open in both directions throughout San Diego County and into Murrieta with the exception of a few on and off ramps inbetween.

susan wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:00 AM:15 is open, but exits are closed in fire affected areas

just curious wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:00 AM:I keep seeing these address as destroyed: 1350 ESCONDIDO BLVD #32 ESCONDIDO, 92026 1350 ESCONDIDO BLVD #33 ESCONDIDO, 92026 1350 ESCONDIDO BLVD #34 ESCONDIDO, 92026 1350 ESCONDIDO BLVD #35 ESCONDIDO, 92026 1350 ESCONDIDO BLVD #36 ESCONDIDO, 92026 Those seem to be so far from the fire and other destroyed structures. There must be a story about what happened to those apartments.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:00 AM:Debbie -- What announcement are you talking about? Fallbrook's evacuation order?

LAA wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:02 AM:Any updated news on Pauma Valley and the PV Country Club area? I am in LA and cannot find updated information on the fire location.

gauchogabe wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:04 AM:Again I agree with the reader who said "God died and left them in charge",the last Fallbrook fire I stayed in my house and this time due to pressure from friends and relatives I left, BIG mistake!!!nothing came close and now I can't go home!!!.It's plain wrong!!!

To Ann wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:04 AM:I understand your frustration we have been out of our home in Ramona since Sunday. But the fact of the matter is they have to err on the side of caution for one simple reason that we are responsible for... lawsuits. That's my opinion on the matter only. We all know the unpredictable and catastrophic nature of fires and it is entirely possible that areas that appear safe could become flare ups. My thoughts drift to those who died in the 2003 fire and had no time to evacuate...including those who burned in their cars or tried to walk out. Patience and understanding and thanking God for his mercy that your area did not burn, you have much to be thankful for over many who have lost much.

Debbie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:05 AM:MD - I'm talking about an announcement re when we can expect to be let in - what the process will be; what the timing will be, etc.

Stage Coach Bob wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:07 AM:Don, on my drive down Gird Road yesterday, I didn't see any signs of damage on either side of the road all the way to the 76. Fallbrook Golf Course was untouched, as was the new Sycamore area. I think you're OK. It doesn't look like the fire went west of Gird Road anywhere.

Lis wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:07 AM:Ok, We are forgetting people have lost thier homes and livelihoods and pets. The laws and rules are in place to protect us. They need room to drive the trucks and tractors that saved our homes, they need to check on the water and power to keep the disaster to the billion dollars it is at right now. How about gratitude for the firemen and women, SDG & E, police forces, military etc. who put their lives on the lines for us and our material possessions? Come on Fallbrook show them we are made of more than this! We are!

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:12 AM:Debbie -- We're making some calls this morning, hoping to get more information about when the Fallbrook evacuation order will be lifted. As soon as we hear something, I will make sure the information gets posted.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:14 AM:Fred -- SDG&E still reports several outages in the Fallbrook area, mostly in the northeast part of town.

Liz re Lawrence Welk wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:15 AM:Welk Resort is fine and not under threat. We live close by. Evacuation was probably precautionary because of the high number of elderly people. Since Deer Springs and Hidden Meadows were allowed to return last night at 6, I would imagine Welk Resort was too?

Agree with Lis wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:17 AM:We must be thankful. We have lost so much, but what we lost are mostly material things. We did not lose our spirit, our courage, and our ability to thank those who have helped us so much. Thank you.

Marianne wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:19 AM:Ann, I find your attitude appalling. It is apparent that you do not have an understanding that there are many, many folks that needed to be evacuated, not just yourself. Perhaps next time the authorities should wait til the last to notify you that your home may burn to the ground. The type of groundwork that is required during this sort of emergency is not, and cannot be, person specific. Once you have an understanding of that, you may have a little more compassion for those people in whose hands your life may rest.

Two things we need wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:19 AM:to address. 1. During an emergency as the hospitals have asked, DO NOT use the emergency rooms as your primary care, there are clinics everywhere that you can use. 2. During an emergency all instructions are given in English, residents need to know English. They do not need to be hampered in giving emergency instructions in 26 different languages.

Don wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:20 AM:Stage Coach Bob, thank you for your report. The "Google" fire map of that area is showing that the fire has moved west of Gird and south past the golf course. I hope that does not reflect recent flare ups. Don

Jeanine wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:21 AM:My parents live in Fallbrook and they have been here with me and my family in Huntington Beach since Monday night after evacuating. They want to get home as badly as the rest of you Fallbrook residents do. Exercise some patience people. Let the authorities and the firemen do their jobs to take care of the town and deem all safe before they let re-entry. God forbid, if their is a next time that a mandatory evacuation is ordered it will be your decision to heed the warning or not, just remember that if you so choose to stay you could end up being very sorry. It is for the safety of the residents of Fallbrook that this was done. In my parents' behalf i would like to thank all of the firemen whom are risking their lives to save YOUR homes. We thank you and appreciate all of your excruciatingly hard work. You Rock!!! Last but definately not least, thank you so very much to the law enforcement entities, national guard and the marines whom are keeping Fallbrook safe during this difficult time. God bless and stay safe to all of you.

Lynette wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:22 AM:Fallbrook folks, don't forget - some of the problems include power still out, and if there are water problems like there are in Ramona, you'll be stuck with having to boil water and no way to do it with no power. I know it's hard - believe me, my mom is evacuated from Fallbrook - but there is a reason for it.

Heidi wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:26 AM:I agree with Lis and Marianne. I know of people who had less than 5 minutes to get out and who lost everything up to their home!! We took the time to consider what we NEEDED to take, and were ready early. We didn't want the first responders to have to rescue us when they could be saving our house. We wanted to be sure they could maneuver--if you decide to wait next time, you are on your own, and responsible yourself if you lose anything including your life or the lives of your loved ones. Let's be reasonable and realize our village has unique concerns to be addressed that the more metropolitan, less charming areas do not. Wait, and be safe. I hope to see you alive and well on the streets of Fallbrook, not visit you in the graveyard.

Stage Coach Bob wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:28 AM:My thoughts on the evacuation: The way the winds were going a few days ago, and with as dry as everything is around here, I can see why the fire dept. wanted everyone out of harm's way. ESPCECIALLY when you consider that there were only two roads out of town (76 and Ammunition) that they had to funnel 40,000 people through. It's bad enough trying to get through Bonsall on any normal day - imagine what that might have been like with 10,000 cars all trying to get through at once with flames licking at you(edit). You wouldn't want to be at the back of that line. The evac order was a good move, but they should have lifted the order for several areas of Fallbrook yesterday.

T in TX wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:29 AM:Praise Stagecoach Bob !!! I have family that live very close to S. Stagecaoch & E. Fallbrook St., how's that area?

annoyed wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:30 AM:I know you all want to get into your homes, but the reason they evacuate you is for SAFETY, you may "think" you are safe in your home, but you don't know ALL the facts, the Fire Dept personnel KNOW what they are doing, by the way they are risking their LIVES to save your POSESSIONS, so why don't you be a little grateful?

Derek wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:31 AM:I am a Fallbrook evacuee. Yes, my family and I are anxious to get home. But it makes me very angry to read about such immature comments about "I was in no immediate danger - next time I will ignore the evacuation orders". These fires were even bigger than 2003; by all accounts the local, state, and federal officials seem to working together well; the loss of life and property has been a fraction of 2003; and Fallbrook is being extremely well patroled with zero reports of looting. To me, one of the reasons that this disaster has so well handled has been the fact that they have been "overcautious" with the evacuations - thereby freeing up fire and law enforecement officials to actually fight the fire and patrol our properties. For those of you that are way too impatient to get home, I can empathize with you. But for crissakes, use your brain, take a few breaths, and realize that the needs of the many do in fact outweigh the needs of the few.

to ANN wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:32 AM:Keeping us out is just plain smart! Crews need to be able to get in and out. Roads need to be open and firefighters need to be able to foccus on the fires not on the people. I want to say Thank You to all the people doing their jobs to keep us safe!!!!

Jim from Fallbrook wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:32 AM:To Debbie and Ann, Thank God you two are not in charge... Thease brave men put their lives in jeapordy to protect lives and property,so you two can cry about being inconvenianced... Too bad, so sad. They evacutaed all of us for a darn good reason, so people like you two... don't get yourselves and others killed trying to save your sorry butts. Get over it!

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:33 AM:Debbie, et all -- They've just announce the lifting of many evacuation orders, including Fallbrook. We'll have details shortly.

eagles crest road, ramona wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:35 AM:I think someone asked about eagles crest road off of highland valley.. took a tour and only two homes standing.. meza residence and another home. Everything else appears to be gone.

Pete wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:36 AM:Michael, We just heard on the news that they have lifted the evacuation order in the olive hill area in Fallbrook, if you were a betting man when will they allow us back into the gird valley/pala mesa area? The fire is more then 5 miles away with no active hot spots. Also, can you post any secret routes into that area that aren't being patrolled so we can go sneak home!

mike reardon wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:36 AM:I stayed at home in the Morro Hills area of Fallbrook. I am a retired firefigheter and I stayed because I felt it was relatively safe because there was little to no wind from Monday evening on. It is now time to start letting people back in to the area. Fallbrook and Bonsall are a very large area. Most of the area was not directly affected by the fire, utilities are still on, etc. They should start letting people re-populate those areas that have not been affected.

annoyed wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:37 AM:oh and by the way ANN: next time there is a fire and you decide that you are a fire behavioral specialist and do not evacuate, and a firefighter DIES because they have to come save you, I hope it's worth it. Your selfishness by not evacuating could kill people, those firefighters are risking their lives to keep people like you safe everyday. I hope their LIVES are worth you not being inconveinenced for a couple days... Oh and if I sound like I am taking it personal I am, my fiancee has been out trying to save your homes in fallbrook since Monday, with barely any sleep, or food, and this is the thanks those guys get.

Joan wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:38 AM:What is the story about 76 being closed from 395 to Mission Road (westbound)? Conflicting data on the news. When will Sycamoe Ranch be "freed"?

Escondido Here wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:39 AM:Seems like everyone is getting carried away with the happy-talk, 'we're such good people stories, better than Katrina victims...blah..blah..blah'. Seems alot of the people @ Qualcomm weren't evacuees at all, but lowlifes there to steal food and supplies. Police announced last night @ the Q they'd be checking ID's after complaints, then there was a mass exodus. Only 400 - 500 remain now.

eagles crest road, ramona wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:39 AM:apparently a family on eagles crest road off of highland valley was trapped by the fire and survived by jumping in their swimming pool.. anyone from that area knows that once the fire gets there it is impossible to get in there to help. Glad to hear they survived, their home on the other hand did not.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:40 AM:Joan -- We just updated the road closure list on our "Breaking News" page. You can check here: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/25/news/top_stories/alerts/doc471fcb881b762155556555.txt

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:40 AM:Pete -- We're working on those details now. We'll have them soon, I hope.

fern wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:44 AM:I agree with Bob. They need to lift the evacuation for many areas in Fallbrook. They have done a GREAT job and I am very thankful for all the fireman and law enforcement. People appreciate the efforts and caution taken. Lets not ruin it by keeping people who are miles away from any fire out of there homes.

Shana wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:45 AM:I would personally like to thank all the firefighters and police and all law enforcement for serving our communities, and protecting us to the best of thier ability. Folks they are doing thier job, they are not trying to make your life harder they are trying to save it. They are the ones that are fighting these fires, probably fought the Cedar fires too, they are the ones that see the fires shifting in the middle of the night, so please dont think so much of your self that you mistrust thier first hand knowledge of this disaster. I'm sure some of these brave men and women would rather be at home safe with thier own families. This is a time to love one another. I pray for all the families affected, and ask our good lord above to lift up those persons that are hurting, and encourage them to look for a better tomorrow as God will not give you more than you can bear. I pray for healing and thank God in heaven for the relief workers that he is providing to the fire victims. May God be with you, and may he provide you with hope and love during this time. God Bless!

Ramona Guy wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:45 AM:Does Mike Donnelly or anyone have any updates on when the water will come back on in Ramona. Also, any word on when Ramona will open back up?

World Series in Fallbrook wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:48 AM:My brother in law lives in fallbrook and evacuated Monday night but returned Tuesday morning before many of the road blocks were in place - the houses along via vista are fine - other areas there are a few houses gone here and there but most are fine. He has power and watched the World Series in his own living room - My sister and her kids can't get back to her husband and dad they won't let them in. Come on already Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!

Debbie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:49 AM:Jim - First, learn how to spell. But more importantly, I never disputed the appropriateness of the evac order. All I've said is that failure to start letting us in to undamaged homes with power is likely to cause more people to ignore future evac orders. It's like crying wolf. Eventually you get ignored. I don't want that. I'm not crying about being inconvenienced. I'm concerned about people's reactions to future emergencies. So maybe you should learn to read as well.

Watchin my hometown burn wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:49 AM: What's happening with the Witch fire in the southern end of Rancho Santa Fe? Is that edge of the fire still advancing? (Thanks for pulling an all-nighter, Michael)

J wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:51 AM:Lake Elsinore - the big white/red Canadian seaplane parked on the lake all night. I can see it and it has not moved at all yet this AM. Does NCT staff know what is up with that?

Leslie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:51 AM:Stage Coach Bob: didn't the police stop you at any time? We left Fallbrook on Monday at 4:15 PM when the sky was black and I was concerned that if the windy part of Olive Hill caught fire we would have trouble getting out. We came back Tuesday at 10:30 AM and the sheriffs at 76 and Olive Hill were kind enough to let us come up the hill. We have been here since then sleeping in shifts and checking outside periodically. There is still a sheriff's car parked at Olive Hill and Del Valle, but why? Thank you Michael for hosting this site. It helps to hear from other people in the area who are also wanting more information. I too hope that there is never a next time, but if there is tell the news meadia that Fallbrook is non a step-child to the county. It makes you wonder when you watch the same "breaking news" piece five plus times over the course of a couple of hours. I believe too that the town of Fallbrook needs a better communication system among its residents, like this site. Thank you.

eagles crest road, ramona wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:53 AM:on the trip from eagles crest road, down highland valley road to the I-15 is full of debris. There were downed power lines and trees.. so they have to clear all that mess before people can go back and check on their properties.

Maryle wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:53 AM:NCT you are doing a great job! Is there any update as to when Lomas Serenas residents will be allowed back in? Also, the Escondido fire department issued a release either the first or second day saying 17 homes in Lomas Serenas had been damaged. I keep looking through the list and can find 9 at best - is there any more information on this? Thanks!

Julie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:55 AM:I need to know where the Veternarian in Fallbrook would have taken all the animals. I am missing a cat. I dopped it off on Monday afternoon and have not heard of where any animals may have went. Thanks!

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:57 AM:Watchin -- You're welcome. The current county map shows no active burn area on the southern edge of the Witch Creek Fire.

Mike wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:58 AM:I live in south Fallbrook near South Mission, about a mile from 76. We stayed home because, at first, it was impossible to get on the road. After that it was apparent that we were in no immediate danger as the fires were quite far from here and the wind blowing away from us. I went to a high spot and checked every couple of hours. For the other people who are still in Fallbrook and haven't ventured out, I can tell you that as of yesterday Major Market was open and fully stocked. El Toro Market was open. The Shell Station at the intersection of Main Ave. and Mission was open and actually was taking on fuel from a tanker truck yeseterday afternoon. How can they justify keeping citizens out if it is safe enough to transport a double tanker of gasoline into downtown? I believe that they are doing this, not because of fire danger, but to keep people off the roads. I have been using the back roads mostly but have driven down S. Mission to Via Encinos and seen no emergency vehicle activity at all. I think most citizens are smart enough to stay out of the way. Caution is one thing, but this is getting ridiculous.

JW Fallbrook wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:59 AM:I own a small restaurant in Fallbrook. Last night we took food we prepared to the fire crews that are "camped" at Zion Lutheran Church. Local volunteers from our community & the pastor are organizing things. Some of the firefighters were from way up in Northern California. Got up again today at 3am and cooked breakfast wraps, fresh fruit, and dropped it off to them and plan to bring more for the next shift. They were most appreciative, and both Albertsons and Major Market are going to donate groceries so we can cook. I know everyone is anxious to return and I'm sure it will be soon.

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 7:59 AM:Hi J -- Here's the caption information we got for a freelancer that shot a photo of that plane for us (the photo's on our home page): "A water dropping plane from Canada makes a landing in Lake Elsinore where it will be stationed until needed for the wild fires in southern California."

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:00 AM:Sorry Ramona Guy, I don't have any information on the water in Ramona, but we'll make some calls and see what we can find out.

To Ramona Guy wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:02 AM:Check out ramonasentinel.com they seem to be the best place for info on Ramona.

NE Oceanside wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:02 AM:I know that there are many people who want to help those who had to evacuate. Where can we take things to help them? People are camping out in store parking lots and aren't getting assistance. Where can we help?

Michael Donnelly, NCT wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:02 AM:Here's the evacuation lift information in Olive Hill. Other areas to follow in "Breaking News": Fallbrook: The Olive Hill Area of Fallbrook is now open to all residents who can present a valid identification card. The area includes, all residents who live north of Burma Road and Olive Hill. Access to the community is off of Highway 76.

eagles crest road, ramona wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:07 AM:The trip from highland valley road down bandy canyon road towards the animal park a bridge burned and there is a gap on the road.

Mitch wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:09 AM:Any news on Rainbow?

Alf wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:11 AM:Is the only Cask'n'Cleaver left in San Diego County, on Mission between the 76 and downtown Fallbrook still there, unscathed? Regards, Alf.

Brian E wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:12 AM:Any word on the 5 homes on Pamela Drive? This road is just before Ranger Road when you come off of Old 395. Thanks.

Maxine wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:14 AM:I live in Oregon but my heart is in Escondido. Does anyone know if Oak Hill Cemetery is was burned and is it currently safe. Have been trying to tell by the reports but can't confirm.

John wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:16 AM:Wednesday night, on Larry King Live, two "officials" at MCAS in Miramar bragged about the efforts they made to keep the Witch fires from reaching Miramar. I live in Mira Mesa, and thankfully, we were safe. But I would like to know exactly WHAT efforts these two men were talking about? I saw nothing unusual in driving past the base. With all the real heroes fighting on the front lines of these fires, what were they taking credit for? Does anyone know?

Valley Center wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:16 AM:Has there been any evacuations lifted for the western part of VC over on the Lilac RD areas and Old Castle?

Dixie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:17 AM:Does anyone know if we can access the Olive Hill/Morro Hills area through Sleeping Indian?

Dixie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:21 AM:Can the Olive Hill area be accessed through Sleeping Indian?

eagles crest road, ramona wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:22 AM:Maxine, took a drive yesterday through escondido the cemetery seemed fine.

To Leslie wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:22 AM:There are several reason why the town is sealed up like a drum. 1. Keep out the looters---and it sounds like they were chased away. 2. The Police/CHP/Sherrif/Firemen are following orders. 3. THEY know what is going on and THEY know or are developing the plan to keep everyone safe. THEY are not sitting back having a martini and having a good time. 4. Imagine the chaos if they don't have the plan in place. Do you really think they are going to let 35,000 people back into the town all at once? Think about the traffic on the 76 at 5pm on a regular day. This will take some orchestrating! They have to have the areas for assistance (like the Senior Center) set up before people enter the town. 5. Do YOU have a plan when you get back to your home?

to Escondido here wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:23 AM:How many left after they made the change in policy? It is important that we be aware of those criminal opportunists who take advantage of people at a time like this. Where can I find more info to pass on the news? Thank you.

kay wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:26 AM:there were some reports on monday about a man that was missing. his car was found in carlsbad, i think. i haven't heard anything recently. does anyone know anything about this? was he found? are there still folks looking?

susan wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:27 AM:any info on the de luz area, rock mountain/gavilan mountain split. fire maps show it red. dad lives there, was evac monday. anyone know if any homes lost?????? dad worried sick! "

Jim wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:27 AM:Contrary to what the various maps show, there is no evidence of fire along either side of Gird Rd. In fact, driving down Gird looking East, you can see no charred ground. at all. The Cask & Cleaver is safe unless they had a grease fire.

Jay wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:33 AM:Where can I find the source of destroyed homes? Can anyone confirm the condition of homes on Daisy Lane in the Pala Mesa Area?

mahree wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:34 AM:john- you can visit Miramar's website at miramar.usmc.mil, click on press releases and read for yourself.

Mom in SJ wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:34 AM:What about Bonsall? Any news?

Dawn wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:34 AM:Does anyone know the extent of the damage at Pala Mesa Resort. Especially the wedding ceremony area. I heard that some parts were burned, but they were not disclosed. Thanks

Keith wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:35 AM:I find it hard to read people saying that they will not leave next time. Do you not remember New Orleans. People had been told to leave many times of storms and nothing every happened, so they stayed. Do you not remember the pictures of all the people trapped on thier roofs. Also you endanger fire fighter who now have to worry about you. I live right next the the High School and we where out of there as soon as they said anything. I have helped fight fire on more that one time during my 23year Army career and you can never be to careful!

revship wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:36 AM:Anyone know if the area near Potter is open for people to come home - specifically, Via Del Oro?

Living in VC wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:37 AM:To my understanding all main roads into Valley Center are still closed. They being guarded by the National Guard personnal.

Rincon wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:38 AM:Does any one know where we can find area/home reopening information?

This is why you need to evacuate when told to do so! wrote on Oct 25, 2007 8:38 AM:Posted on the UT site: Two bodies found in burned home Posted @ 7:37 AM Two bodies were discovered in a burned home in an unincorporated area northeast of Poway and the county medical examiner's office is attempting to identify them, Sheriff Bill Kolender said at a morning news briefing. That brings the toll to three people killed in the region's fires. Three others died after o