Bilbray bill proposes stricter immigration enforcement

By: EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer | Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:27 PM PST

A new bill by Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Solana Beach, would require employers to verify that all of their new workers are in the country legally.

One of the most vocal critics of illegal immigration in Congress, Bilbray said the bill also would call for an increase in the number of U.S. Border Patrol agents, intensify aerial surveillance at the nation's borders and increase the number of detention facilities.

But critics say some of its supporters have co-sponsored the bill simply to appear tough on illegal immigration before the November elections.

Since the bill was introduced Nov. 5, its list of co-sponsors has grown to 112, including 44 Democrats, making the bill more likely to move forward in the House, Bilbray said. The bill's main sponsor is North Carolina Democrat Heath Shuler.

"Congress has the responsibility to take action and respect the mandate given by the American people to enforce our laws, secure our borders and address illegal employment," Bilbray said. He added that the bill "is the last best chance this Congress will have to move the ball forward on illegal immigration."

One noticeable absence in the list of sponsors is Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, who has often worked with Bilbray on immigration measures and is a member of the Immigration Reform Caucus, a get tough on illegal immigration group for which Bilbray serves as chairman.

Issa said Friday that he does not object to the bill and would probably support it if it were to come for a vote. But he said he believes Democrats are using the legislation as a political crutch in preparation for next year's elections.

Issa said he believes Bilbray's intentions are good.

"But Democrats are putting it out there to be able to say they are strong on immigration while doing absolutely nothing," he said.

As evidence that Democrats are not serious about the bill, Issa said, many of the Democrats who sponsored it also voted to give illegal immigrants food stamps in an appropriations bill earlier this year.

Most of the Democrats who support the bill are so-called Blue Dog Democrats, a group made up of newly elected Democrats from conservative and moderate districts. Some may fear that being perceived as soft on illegal immigration could translate to a short tenure in office, political analysts say.

A spokesman for an immigrant rights group said the legislation is destined to fail because it focuses almost exclusively on enforcement efforts. Many pro-immigrant groups want to see bills that also include help for illegal immigrants who want to become legal residents.

"I don't think it's likely to go anywhere," said Doug Rivlin, a spokesman for the National Immigration Forum, an immigrant advocacy group in Washington. "It's enforcement only, so we know it can't work."

Since Congress failed to enact a broad immigration proposal in June, several attempts at smaller-scale reform, such as legalizing illegal immigrants who were brought to the country as children, have fallen short.

Some analysts say Congress is unlikely to act on substantial immigration bills so close to a presidential election.

However, Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for stricter immigration policies, said he sees election-year politics playing in the bill's favor. He said Democrats need to demonstrate to voters that they are tough on illegal immigration.

"As unlikely as it may sound, this improves the chances of this bill getting somewhere," Krikorian said.

One prominent Democrat on the bill's roster of sponsors is U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Penn., chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.

Murtha voted against the controversial border security bill that sparked mass protests by immigrant rights groups in 2005. He said the new bill would help employers vet illegal immigrant applicants.

"This is the kind of common sense approach that I hope will move the immigration debate forward and ensure that our nation's immigration laws are enforceable and fair," Murtha said in a news release.

Contact staff writer Edward Sifuentes at (760) 740-3511 or esifuentes@nctimes.com.

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Democrat Robert wrote on Nov 16, 2007 10:48 PM:Finally a bill that not only makes sense but will flush out those representatives that continue to push for amnesty. Great job Rep Bilbray for a first step in the "enforcement first" addressing to this mounting national problem. Thank you.

YOU KNOW THIS BILL WILL WORK WHEN ................ wrote on Nov 16, 2007 11:29 PM:......... "A spokesman for an immigrant rights group said the legislation is destined to fail"

Dennis wrote on Nov 16, 2007 11:35 PM: To “Democrat Robert” and any one else I too am glad for any thing that stops this type of crime. That’s why I am mandated by “LAW” to carry a “Legal” form of I.D. I hope that you know that I don’t think this is Profiling but the act that legal citizen’s must follow to have basic rights in this NATION for any thing and that’s what Both parties better get working on , and stop trying to buy my Vote about it.

Rock on! wrote on Nov 16, 2007 11:40 PM:Go Bilbray! Your bill has a list of co-sponsors of 112 members of congress, including 44 Democrats! Fantastic! You are to be congratulated for your willingness to see things in a bi-partisan way. Keep up the good work protecting our country and keeping it strong!

Border Protection First wrote on Nov 16, 2007 11:47 PM:Protect the Border first. Undocumented folks are a problem that will take much more time and effort to solve. We can protect the border now - first and foremost. This bill should be about border protection NOW. Adding anything else to it will only make it more difficult to get border protection now and makes it appear to be Politics as usual.

Randy wrote on Nov 17, 2007 2:33 AM:Rep. Bilbray is a quintessential one-note politician!

The first. wrote on Nov 17, 2007 4:53 AM:Part is the only thing that makes sense. Put the business people in jail who hire them. End of problem.

About Time! wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:23 AM:This is much better than "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" which is nothing more than amnesty and an attempt to win the Hispanic vote. I do agree with Issa though. The Democrats want open borders and amnesty and the Republicans, with the exception of Bush want enforcement. Let's hope people are not fooled by this so called partisan bill.

#1 concern wrote on Nov 17, 2007 7:28 AM:by dealing with ILLEGAL immigration this country can start to address all other issues we now face, taxes-no need to raise taxes if we stop paying for ILLEGAL immigrants, terrorism-border security, health-care-same as taxes above and yes, even tho you may not want to admit it, but crime would also be reduced. Those are just a few reasons, ILLEGAL immigration should be every US CITIZENS first concern this coming election.

Our Future is at stake wrote on Nov 17, 2007 7:49 AM:IF we do not deal with our immigration problem NOW. Our country is at the tipping point on many fronts. We can't let the status quo continue to run our great country into the ground. Who do we vote for? Who will champion our cause? That is my biggest concern.

Kristie wrote on Nov 17, 2007 8:25 AM:Thank goodness for Bilbray, Hunter, Issa, Rorhbacher and the other congressmen that have been trying for years to secure the borders and enforce immigration laws. If it were up to the other leaders we would always have open borders and hords of illegals to benefit big business and to try to secure more future votes. Randy pay attention to Bilbray and you'll see that he is not only an advocate to stop and end illegal immigration but does address many issues. Thank the Lord for Bilbray instead of Busby. Time we pay more attention to candidates that are giving away this country. Check their voting records instead of their commercials.

More Fluff wrote on Nov 17, 2007 8:31 AM:Bilbray's talk is all fluff. It's the feds job to make sure all workers are here legally, NOT EMPLOYERS! Let's require Bilbray prove he is in Carlsbad legally. ...

Well. wrote on Nov 17, 2007 9:09 AM:He can introduce anything he likes. Doesn't make any difference. He is not with the Majority and has no Seniority. He is in a perfect position to do no harm to us until he is removed in 08. Maybe by that time the locals here just might be a little smarter. Maybe.

anayeli wrote on Nov 17, 2007 9:10 AM:The challenge that needs to be brought is to the interpretation of the 14th amendment that provides 'birthright citizenship' to babies born to those illegally in the country. Whose doing this?

Ken wrote on Nov 17, 2007 9:52 AM:It truly amazes me how so many dumb people there are out there. They use the race card, they say it is the "feds" job, they say that city and local governments are profiling, when instead, they are only supporting those that are abiding the laws that we already have on the books. It is EVERYONE's job to make sure that those that are in this country are LEGALLY, not the other way around. Keep up the great work Mr. Bilbray, and hope that Issa will come to his senses and sign on to stop this INVASION of ILLEGAL ALIENS and ILLEGAL DRUGS, from coming across our southern border. PS: To "More Fluff", 2 things, one is that you DO NOT know what you are talking about. And 2, those that are afraid to use their own name when they post a comment, tells those of us that they are afraid of being found out.

Ed wrote on Nov 17, 2007 10:23 AM:Bilbray is doing what the people who elected expected him to do, based on his promises. Busby if elected, Sen. Kennedy would have told her go to the back of the room, shut up and vote like he does. We would never know she was there. Thanks Bilbray, you are our hero.

WhoWhat wrote on Nov 17, 2007 10:30 AM:Simple math No jobs + long high fence = No illegal aliens. Gee, to think I am a product of the public school system.

GFN wrote on Nov 17, 2007 10:36 AM:Darrell Issa shows his true colors on this issue. He talks tough on immigration but when put to the test, he balks, and claims he won't sponsor the bill because he believes Democrats are using the bill as a political crutch. Instead of supporting an issue that will really help the battle against illegal immigration, he plays politics. He's Congress...he's Hillary!

El Guero wrote on Nov 17, 2007 10:37 AM:'Enforcement-only' is the only kind of reform'that citizens will accept. Up to now we've had amnesty-only policies and we KNOW they don't work.

ThenWhat?? wrote on Nov 17, 2007 11:43 AM:When we fix the Illegal Immigrant issue and everyone is equal and legal... Where will all that newly recovered time and money go..will taxes go down?? the price of gas..The housing bubble re inflate..will we have affordable health care??? will we pick our own fruit?? jobs come back from China?? Will we be able to still own timeshares in Mexico???

GG wrote on Nov 17, 2007 11:50 AM:Exactly how are employers going to conduct this verification? I'm all for making employers accountable, but realistically, how are they going to do it? We don't have a Federal ID which is hard ot duplicate and which everyone here legally, including citizens, has. It's already illegal to hire people who are here illegally, so how is this bill going to make any difference? It's not, it's posturing by Bilbray and the opthers.

Tired american... wrote on Nov 17, 2007 12:41 PM:just like the privileged anglos in solana beach to refuse to share the american pie with others. First Kit Carson and company steal the land from ther mexicans, then they use mexicans as a cheap labor pool, now they want to exclude them entirely. Typical republican fat cats... always looking for a minority to harrass.

Bettybb wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:01 PM: Hey, why are existing employees not being checked?

joe wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:02 PM:Rep. Issa does sound like Ms. Clinton. "I won't support it, but if Pres Bush does, I'll vote for it.

Bobby wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:05 PM:More Fluff, you seem to be one of those many folks whose thinking is a bit inverted. Bilbray is an American citizen. Stop comparing American citizens to illegal aliens. It's silly.

CC wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:12 PM:The government already has a list of taxes paid on Social Security numbers that are either incorrect or non-existing. So, common sense says the government could at least look at those folks. Then, it's equal opportunity prosecution -- so the courts can't interfere.

Yes wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:13 PM:Help get it passed: ...

Mike wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:20 PM:Aren't we supposed to be heaping nonsensical insults and abuse on Edward Sifuentes for writing another illegal immigration story?

RG wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:23 PM:Certainly sounds good to me. I think Bilbray is doing the job he was elected to do. The "Open Border" people will do what they can to kill the plan because they want to keep things as they are, which is to say do nothing and allow more millions to come here uncontrolled.

Alf wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:35 PM:Which LAW is it, "Dennis" at 11:36PM on the 16th, that MANDATES that I carry identification? If I drive a car, I must have a valid drivers license which is a form of ID, but, to the best of my knowledge, there is no law that says I must have ID just to walk around or be a passenger in a car. We have not yet reached the point that we can be told "Your papers, please. NOW!" when we are not doing something requiring a license, that is, unless GWB snuck another Constitution-violating directive by us, again. Regards, Alf.

John wrote on Nov 17, 2007 1:44 PM:We have immigration because we have free market. The laws of supply and demand really do work. Deal with it.

Frank wrote on Nov 17, 2007 2:36 PM:That's brilliant. We have immigration because we have a free market. Huh!!

WhoWhat wrote on Nov 17, 2007 3:12 PM:John s another over-simplistic " " who calls this invasion "immigration" we MUST control the borders and the influx of millions of law breaking (yes illegal) people, for our safety and to control the social and economic impact on our overloaded system. Not to do so is and has been inviting a catastrophe that is already occurring.

To "John" wrote on Nov 17, 2007 3:57 PM:The laws of supply and demand will justify slavery, child labor and just about any other injustice in the market or workplace. Capitalism must be regulated on some level. Wake up!

usa today wrote on Nov 17, 2007 4:09 PM:Illegals are ILLEGAL What part don't you understand amigo?

lance s. wrote on Nov 17, 2007 4:41 PM:Tired American: You say this is from "Republican fat cats" but what about the fact that a whole lot of Democrats are supporting it. Democratic politicians are coming to their senses on illegal immigration. That's fine with me. I think Issa is on the wrong track. So what if the Democrats were on the wrong side of this before. If they have come to their senses then more power to them and they probably deserve to be re-elected.

lance s. wrote on Nov 17, 2007 4:46 PM:GG says it's illegal to hire illegals already, so what's the purpose of this bill, then he says there is no way to verify someone. Well, I see you're thinking out loud. Once you make up your mind where you stand, you can let us know.

FreedomLoving wrote on Nov 17, 2007 5:26 PM:Has anyone read this bill? It requires every one of the 150 Million legal working people to prove to BIG GOVT that you are here legally. If you don't prove it in a certain amount of time,it mandates that you must lose your job. They can't handle 500,000 passport applications;how are they going do this and how much will it cost? Forget Amercian Freedoml;if Bilbray gets his way, it's over!

ger wrote on Nov 17, 2007 5:45 PM:To Dennis, as a legal citizen I am not required by law to carry an ID, or carry any documents that I am a US citizen. If I had to carry paper work, what's the point of living in a free country. Yes, it does make it easier to carry a legal ID to prove who I am, but I am not required by law.

Escondidoharry wrote on Nov 17, 2007 5:48 PM:so this isn't a employer verification bill after all? I thought there was something funny about the NCT story because employers have to verify employees now,but it is based on matching social security numbers. Congressman Bilbray would require us legal workers to get identity cards or lose our jobs.What if I can't get my birth certificate or it got burned up in the fire? Or, the Government agenct doesn't accept my so-called "proof"...who says what is enough proof?This is a disaster ready tohappen to all of us, not the illegals.

Alf wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:02 PM:What's next? "The Mark Of The Beast" or is it "The Mark Of The Bilbray"? What's the difference? It' all crap. 666, here we come. Rather than secure our borders, Bilbray will have every real American have to "prove", by way of their "mark", that they are Citizens. Hogwash!! Regards, Alf.

eseban wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:25 PM:The Democrats are leaders on this issue, it will insure that they get relected and will takethe white house. And Issa is whining that it is politics??? damn right it is politics, thats how this country is run.

Mike wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:40 PM:Has Bilbray ever accomplished anything regarding illegal immigration? He's been talking this stuff for years, but it keeps getting worse. This guy is an absolute blow-hard.

Darlene wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:42 PM:Escondidoharry- Anyone who is too lazy or too stupid to "find" their own birth certificate is way too stupid and way too lazy to deserve a job in America to begin with! Anyone can get a certified copy of their BC from records in the hospital of their birth or Bureau of Vital Statistics in their state for about $13! This bill requires no more hardship on any legal citizen than is already required by any employer. GG, I don't know where you've been but if you look you'll learn about e-Verify. It's a system that works and put in simple steps, certainly not all the millions of workers in one instant. Look up the bill, the SAVE Act, and see for yourself. It's Schulers' bill, all others, including Bilbray, are co-sponsors.

definger wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:54 PM:The people are being played like a fiddle.

Bobby wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:56 PM:kristie , it is Way past time that we start paying attention to those giving away this nations, language culture, heritage and customs. Now, tell all of your friends and relatives to wake up if they haven't yet, because not everyone can use the net and therefore, have not the slightest idea of what the establishment politicians and the RAZA groups are doing. Taking Americans taxes by force and redistributing the middle classes, not the rich's wealth to illgal aleins from Mexico mainly and elsewhere. Attention!, Short Quiz for sleeping American citizens: 1)How many Mexican embassies are there in the U.S. as of Nov.17? 2)Why exactly are they here? 3)Do you even care?

Bobby wrote on Nov 17, 2007 6:59 PM:Good Lord, if Bilbray is a blowhard, what do you call ANY, Democratic politician. Remember, it has to be worse than blowhard.

Pedro wrote on Nov 17, 2007 7:45 PM:I love Bilbray! He is doing what's right for me. I work for minimum wage and can't afford to have the Mexicans undercut me. I can only hope Hillary doesn't get elected.

Jimbo wrote on Nov 17, 2007 8:55 PM:I'm not sure I fully understand the assertions that this bill would "require employers to do the fed's job". I think that there is already a law that states that one cannot hire a person who does not have lawful permission to work in the US. This bill helps makes certain that employers are obeying the law. If they don't, then they will be penalized. Nowhere did I read that employers must detain applicants that do not meet the SSN requirements as put forth in this proposal. And of course if the Feds do carry out their job duties, then we'll hear the illegal support camp whining about breaking up families again. Break the law, take the risks and consequences. Keep complaining, it's really gaining ground with Americans whose ancestors came legally and legal immigrants. NOT!

Another Democrat wrote on Nov 17, 2007 11:24 PM:Kudos to Rep Bilbray. It's about time some Democrats finally recognize this problem and do something about it. Bush has been a total failure in securing our OWN borders and our OWN country. This is NOT a Republican/Democrat issue. It is an AMERICAN issue. Democrats need to wake up and pay attention to their constituents. If it takes a Republican to do it, we'll take whatever it takes. SECURE THE BORDER NOW and JAIL EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS NOW! Support LEGAL immigration and embrace LEGAL immigrants. Let's take back America!

Click wrote on Nov 18, 2007 1:35 AM:It's a redundant bill. Employers already have to gather the required ID documents for all new employees after IRCA of 1986 was implemented. Bilbray appeals to the gullible that think that: A tiny minority of people represent an "invasion", America could exist without business, American jobs are lost to "illegal immigrants" that can't even read and write in their own language and that English is not as foreign as Spanish.

Whosecrime wrote on Nov 18, 2007 6:01 AM:It is now, and has been for many years, a crime to pay workers without witholding payroll taxes. It doesn't matter if the worker is here legally, ot not. When such a transaction takes place, the worker is not breaking the law, the employer is. We don't need new laws, we merely need to enforce the laws we already have. What reason do we have to believe the government would be more serious about enforcing a new law when they refuse to enforce the existing laws.

Skip wrote on Nov 18, 2007 8:42 AM:Forget carpooling. I have been doing it for 10 years now and it does not work. Gasoline getting scarce and going up in price? How about our water supply? Got Water? Electricity? What about California taxpayer supported programs such as education, K- College? Plenty of hospitals, medical insurance, and medical? These situations have only gotten worse during the 2,000's. Guess what? Our population is skyrocketing and being driven by immigration! Want to conserve our natural resources, and get our society back on track? Well it is way past time to secure our borders, and take back control of our country and its destiny.

Skip wrote on Nov 18, 2007 8:45 AM:If my last post was not enough to make a point, then go to the major L.A. newspaper web page, and look up the HOMICIDE REPORT BLOG. It is literally a third world war zone up there ...

bilbray's agenda wrote on Nov 18, 2007 9:29 AM:During the Bilbray-Busby election, Bilbray's favorite line in debates was "Do you want your children to grow up learning Spanish because they want to? Or because they have to?" I think this truly explains Bilbray and people like him. They just don't like Mexico or Mexicans. Which is sad because that is and will continue to be part of our culture here in the Southwest USA.

joan wrote on Nov 18, 2007 10:33 AM:I'm tired of all the do-gooders who want to help illegals take away our benefits in welfare, food stamps, subudized housing and jobs. WAKE up AMERICA you are paying for this to take place. We have to enforce our laws and take our rights as Americans back from people who come here illegaly and demand rights to which they are not entitled and, all the while waving Mexican flags. We must be stupid to allow this.Bilbray is not afraid to voice his opinion and he says it in the form of a bill. We can all thank pols like Ted Kennedy for the illegal situation and praise Bilbray for trying to rectify this influx. Whats next traffic signs in Spanish???

Ingrid wrote on Nov 18, 2007 1:05 PM:We have an increased crime rate because they’re here and we have a higher health care costs because they are here. They bring their own values and live the life of whatever country they came from, and they get all the benefits from living in this country. They don’t want to assimilate into our culture. It stratifies our culture and it tears it apart. Illegal immigrants disturb the existing social order wherever they settle. They create a bigger lower class. The illegal ones don’t have the ability to compete in a culture like ours that is oriented to a high education level.

Bobby wrote on Nov 18, 2007 2:32 PM:Concerning the post by Bilbrays Agenda,what is so wrong with Bilbrays agenda? It isn't about liking or not liking Mexicans. Framing it that way already shows were your mind is at. Your just using the racism charge again. If you ask most Americans, and legal citizens-- whether they are white, oriental, or black, they do not want to be forced to learn Spanish. Yes,it's true. What is wrong with that statement. No immigrant comes to this nation expecting to have to learn Spanish. Our culture and main language has been English for more than 300 years. Every immigrant who ever came here, accepted this and learned English. Oh, but when it comes to many Mexicans, yes, Mexicans, they are a different story. They are constantly ambivalent about this nations language. Not even the folks from South America I have met,or Cuba, are as intransigent as Mexicans on this subject. They accept that it's an English speaking nation, unlike many Mexicans, who seem to be still fighting the Mexican-American war. Bi-lingualism is NO GOOD. It is no good for any nation. It has divided and messed up Canada, the former Yugoslavia,etc. Americans would rather not have that mess here. But the RAZA Mexican groups, like LULAC, LA RAZA, MECHA, MALDEF,etc. keep pushing it. Why don't we frame the situation concerning Bilbrays comments this way, Mexicans just don't like Americans and America, because they have no respect for the language, and customs of this country. You see, your thinking is a bit inverted. It is not Mr. Bilbrays obligation to have to like Mexico or any other nation, that CONTINUOUSLY BUTTS IN--On THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES CONCERNINIG THIS NATION THAT HE WAS BORN IN. Don't you get it?

Beverley wrote on Nov 18, 2007 2:56 PM:This is what we need right now. Why wasn't the bill number and nickname for this bill mentioned in the article? It's just another omission by Mr. Sifuentes. For those who want to write and call their representatives it's SAVE Act (H.R. 4088).

Bobby wrote on Nov 18, 2007 3:40 PM:Mr. Bilbray is an American. Born here. He or any other American, have no obligation to learn Spanish. The Spanish speaking have an obligation to learn English. Otherwise, they will never, ever, be accepted. No matter what any stupid Democrat or liberal/progressive moron says. Four hundred years of English, is reason enough. Canda and its problems, are reason enough. We don't need bi-lingualism. Those who advocate it, are on an unholy agenda.

Roberto1 wrote on Nov 18, 2007 8:35 PM:Recession will become a depression and the Mexicans are going back to Mexico. When the economy turns around again, they will be coming back and thats the way it is, will be and will continue to be...as for bilingualism, learn Spanish, Mandarin and French...quit being so paranoid.

WhoWhat wrote on Nov 18, 2007 9:25 PM:The time for the American ID act is long past due, with criminals stealing persona's and all types of documents being accepted as ID, we don't know who or what is roaming around our country ready to do harm to hundreds if not thousands of people. The days of vanishing into the west are gone, its time to know who is here, and who shouldn't be.

Skip wrote on Nov 19, 2007 1:41 AM:After the Illegals leave ....... A great "side effect" of this is now our high school students can find jobs!! This will keep them busy and out of trouble. Plus, they will spend their money HERE IN THE USA, and not send it to Mexico, like the illegals do. This is a win-win for our kids and our economy! (Not to mention what a financial relief it will be for their parents.

I work in a construction office wrote on Nov 19, 2007 8:27 AM:and we have registered with social security and begun checking id's. It is NO problem what so ever. Last week we had 14 applications, and only ONE of them was ok. I called to verify and we did not allow the 13 others with FAKE social security cards to work for us. And call me a racist but ALL of their fake green cards said their country of origin is Mexico. You American people better make this a PRIORITY in the upcoming elections or you can kiss your country goodbye!

Bobby wrote on Nov 19, 2007 10:21 AM:I see, Roberto1, that's just the way it is going to be. And then you wonder why so many people are down on the intransigent attitude of so many Mexicans in THIS nation. We will do what we want, sc-ew the law, the opinions of the American citizenry, or anything else. I see.

Roberto1 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 8:49 PM:I'm in favour of comprehensive, logical, compaasionate and immigration reform that works. As for Bobby, Go pick strawberries or buy them imported from Mexico, China etc. 100 pickers = one manager, truck driver, insurance agent etc. etc. One imported box of whatever is on your table. Get teenagers to do this work?...lol!, we can't even get you to do it.

Alfonso wrote on Nov 21, 2007 6:46 AM:The SAVE act is an excellent start to immigration and security improvements. America needs a system that will provide immigrant labor from ALL nations around the world so that OUR diversity and cultural balance can remain unchanged. The two issues facing us are "illegal immigration" and "no diverse" representation of those immigrating. My compassion is reserved for the sick, tired and poor; not the cheating, lying, deceiving, line-cutting who ignore our laws; no matter whether they are American employers or illegal immigrants. Good start Mr. Bilbray.

Dear Roberto1 wrote on Nov 21, 2007 8:04 AM:Once again with the alarmist "WHAT will America do without the illegals?" America will be just fine, thank you. Hmmm maybe agri businesses and corrupt construction companies will ONLY make 30% profits, instead of 60-80%...how horrible!!! Maybe they will go out of business, to be replaced by honest, tax paying, American hiring companies. How terrifying!!! Maybe the employers WILL require American ID to work in America like I work's company. OMG HOW will America survive law and order?

Jimbo to "Freedom Lover" wrote on Nov 21, 2007 9:36 AM:If you love your freedom so much, then you should be on board with this idea of enforcing immigration laws. If illegal immigration goes unchecked, eventually there will be corruption here in the US as there is in the lands where illegals are coming from. A perfect example is the "Comprehensive Immigration" Bill that failed miserably this summer. It stated that gang members would be given a path to citizenship. Gang members!! Ahead of those waiting legally. Rediculous. That is corruption at its start. To show that one is a legal citizen is not difficult to do. If you want to work, show that you can do so legally or forget about it. Nobody is going to stop you on the streets and demand your papers. Only if you apply for a job. Employers are required to uphold laws in regards to discrimination, and no one has a problem with it, so why not make them accountable for upholding ANY and all laws related to employment, including hiring only those who are legally allowed to work. If employers don't want to abide by the law, then they shouldn't be in business. This bill would cover EVERYONE, including me, so it is not racial profiling either. Plain and simple, show that you can work legally, or go some place else. It's high time. Thank you Bilbray for speaking the voice of the majority of Americans.

Roberto1 wrote on Nov 21, 2007 1:47 PM:"Maybe they will go out of business, to be replaced by honest, tax paying, American hiring companies." REPLY: My point is they won't be replaced. Instead we will increase imports and lose jobs. We need immigration reform that works, not a bunch of hollow rhetoric that has a hollow ring. In other words, get real! Oh well, I guess once Hillary Clinton becomes president we won't have to put up with these pie-in-the-sky fantasies.

Real News Would Be wrote on Nov 23, 2007 12:50 PM:a new bill by Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Solana Beach, would require LANDLORDS to verify that all of their new tenants are in the country legally!!

Mary wrote on Nov 24, 2007 7:57 AM:Rep Issa just proved what is wrong with Congress. Everything is framed as a strategic political move instead of listening to their constintuents and representing that view point in Washington DC. I hope he is voted out of office along with anyone who just refuses to acknowledge a good idea and praising people who support it no matter which side of the aisle it comes from. I realize Rep Bilbray is also a Republican like Issa, but to stiff arm Democrats who decide to try to solve the problem just creates more animosity that will only continue the grid lock in Congress. He just showed he more loyal to the Republican party than he is to the country.

janice wrote on Nov 24, 2007 1:19 PM:To Roberto1. You state that illegal alien workers won't be replaced, that we will "lose jobs". What is the point of having jobs in the U.S.A. if they are all filled by illegal aliens who suck up social services and send money to Mexico, etc. "We" the U.S. citizens won't be losing very many jobs if agriculture, hotels, etc leave since 90% of their employees are illegal aliens. And the loss of any tax revenues from these employers would be offset be reduced welfare, medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing, WIC, free school lunches, free tuition for illegals, bilingual education and law enforcement costs. Plus fewer hospitals would close due to nonpaying customers. Remember that on May 1, during the 250,000 immigrant rally that nurses in Los Angeles area hospitals' emergency rooms were playing cards and socializing--the illegals were busy elsewhere and not showing up in droves for free care!

Paying Taxes wrote on Nov 27, 2007 10:31 AM:Amnesty... I think not. And what about the social security I paid? Where is the long term contribution in amnesty? As long as employers aren't hit in the wallet, and the citizens taxes subsidize the illegals the mess goes on. My hope is that SOMETHING gets enforced soon.

Democrat Robert wrote on Nov 27, 2007 1:07 PM:How much longer can we expect Rep Bilbray to carry the water for us on this issue? Issa should get on board or get the hell out of the way and let the enforcement begin!! Thank God for Bilbray!!!

Bill2 wrote on Dec 2, 2007 12:04 AM:Proof of citizenship for working. Wasn't this thing run thru the Government some years ago? I think the law is still on the books. Both of my sons were born in Mexico over 40 years ago because of superior medical treatment and MUCH lower costs. Their mother (now deceased) and I are both US citizens by birth. At the time all that was necessary was to have their birth certificates stamped by immigration at the border when we brought them into the US after their birth. Years later the rules were changed to require that they would need to be approved by the US consular office in Mexice. They refused to recognize the older approval. I was then forced to go thru a 3 year ordeal in order to get US citizenship cards for my sons. As far as I know they were never asked to produce ANY proof of citizenship after they obtained them.

Bettybb wrote on Dec 6, 2007 3:37 AM:Way to go Bilbray ! I hope it passes. And I hope it has provisions to nail employers and make employers check their present employees. Amnesty is dead forever. In case you haven't noticed, amnesty, no matter what form, is racist and violates the USA Constitution's anti discrimination clause and equal protection clause. Amnesty is PREFERENCE of basically one racial group, Latino, over the all other racial groups that make up America. Acording to our law, all Americans are entitled to bring in family and their ethnic groups in relatively equal proprotions. Latino illegal lawbreakers want to throw the Constitution in the garbarge can along with the rule of law.' Forget it. American is a great country and we believe in equality, not PREFERENCES, Especially for criminal illegals.

Bettybb wrote on Dec 6, 2007 4:37 AM:It's official folks. What is this all about? You know the Bush governement document Judicial Watch obtained that said since Americans would resist North American integration, that it has to be done in secret and implemented by "evolution stealth". Guess what. Bush opened the borders to let in illegals. Now Bush is pushing for a North American Highway which he denies exists while his aide is explain on Capital Hill exactly where it goes. Then Bush pushes for Mexican trucking in the USA. Then Bush pushes for amnesty, which will mean USA becomes more Latino, and hordes more Latinos will flow in. Then Bush stalls on the border fence and on enforcement. You notice how zero has happened since Bush said he was going to have tough enforcement in August. Lou Dobbs throws a wrench in the works by alerting the American people. David Broder last week work a column saying Lou Dobbs basically has screwed it all up. That there has been a bipartian agreement amount the "elite" for free trade and NAFTA, and it was making USA business rich (forgetting to mention the poor and middle class were getting shafted). He said Lou Dobbs will never be well regarded by the "elite". So there you have it. The elite has agreed on free trade, which includes massive immigration from Mexico. Note, 6 months ago, both Hilliary and Richardson on the web sites said they were for open borders. Now they are saying "secure" borders. What does that mean? A traffic sign? Checkout Judicial Watch's website. They also have received some freedom of information documents from the SPP and one mentions open borders along with the intgration of varous infrastructure. Check out Jeff Hoard's blog. He has put some videos together that sure make it seam like this North American Union is a reality. These are huge windfall profits that are in play. Think Halliburton, Enren, World Com, Blackwater and all the othere "elites" tied into politicians. They are fighting hard, very hard. And the media is behind them, spinning and trying to make it look like there is no problem, if you object you are a racist etc. If they win, the rule of law and the USA Constitution is gone. Will the last person in the country we called American please lower the flag.

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