Gang members arrested in Carlsbad stabbing

By: North County Times | Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:23 AM PST

CARLSBAD -- Three documented gang members were arrested Thursday in connection with an unprovoked stabbing of a deaf man earlier this month, Lt. Kelly Cain said.

Two 18-year-old suspects, Edgar Zepeda and Jesus Hernandez, were booked into Vista Detention Center and charged with attempted murder, violating a gang injunction and conspiracy. A third 16-year-old suspect faces the latter two charges and is accused of throwing a rock at the victim's car that started the incident.

The attack occurred Dec. 6 at Harding Street and Palm Avenue after the victim, Joseph Torres of Oceanside, confronted a small group of Latino men he accused of throwing rocks at his car. He was driving through the neighborhood looking for a house where he was to purchase an item off the auction site ebay.

After a short conversation with the suspects, he called police to report the rocks thrown at his car.

With police en route, another group of about four Latino men approached, he told police. Torres' two companions warned him the men were carrying knives, but Torres is deaf and couldn't hear them. One suspect is accused of punching Torres in the face then stabbing him multiple times with a four-inch blade, Cain said.

Torres was taken to Scripps La Jolla Hospital in San Diego, where he is still recovering, Cain said.

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Gary wrote on Dec 14, 2007 6:58 PM:I'm glad they caught the suspects, but the story seems a little weird, first why would you confront these people and not just call the police, then how is he conversing with these suspects when he can't hear and how did he call the police and have a conversation with them, and I guess you don't have to hear to have a drivers license either. Just all seems a bit strange. Hope the guy gets better.

Carlsbad Res wrote on Dec 14, 2007 7:05 PM:Great job! Awesome that these punks were caught! The guy was looking for an address to pick up something he purchased from a ebayer, which he has every right to and they harassed him, he called the cops on the vandilism to his car and they stabbed and attacked him? Who teaches young adults these things? I hope they ALL get some heavy sentences!

hmm wrote on Dec 14, 2007 7:16 PM:you dont really hear about many white gang members. this is going to get a heck of a lot worse before it gets any better.

I'm hard of hearing wrote on Dec 14, 2007 8:51 PM:and its easier to hear on the phone because the sound is RIGHT NEXT to your ear. Secondly, perhaps he didn't know Spanish. And even if he did, you cannot control another persons intonations, volume, etc. Regardless of where you stand, he was attacked because he had the audacity to confront PUNKS who should know better than to vandalize his car, but don't--- and these same punks, if they were smart enough to realize it, might have tried to seize upon his disability to hurt him even more. I don't know the full story, but I do know the deaf man did not have a knife!! But guess who did. Stupid gangs! Go out in the desert and kill each other. I'm sick of this senseless crime! NOBODY, and I mean nobody cares about your punks with your gang clothing, etc. Being born Hispanic is no cop out either. Morality is colorblind. CHOOSE to not be in a gang. Learn to read, find a hobby or passion which doesn’t include destruction of property and killing of humans or animals, and then go for it,. In less than 80 years most of use will be dead. NO ONE will care IF YOU 'Held" a neighborhood. I personally laugh every time I see graffiti in bathrooms. Ah, your highest aspirations made manifest--- to claim a bathroom as your own. I did that once..... while swimming in the ocean. I took a pee in the ocean, and I didn't even have to buy paint to do it. You gang members are subhuman... and not because I just labeled you as such, but because your actions alone speak for what you are: Which is a low life who cares for no one or anything, not even yourself. Do us all a favor, and go into your own bathrooms, and get a double edge super blue, and remember the old saying: "It's down the road, not across the tracks!" Stupid gangs! I AM SO SICK OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

To hmm from hah wrote on Dec 14, 2007 9:20 PM:Of course, not white people never join gangs or commit crimes! Get real, man, crimes are committed by all races, creeds, and nationalities. By the way there was some trouble last year by some young white gangbangers in Vista. Stop being so ignorant.

El Jefe wrote on Dec 14, 2007 9:34 PM:Oh no, not in Carlsbad! Is there no place for people to be safe from these vile creatures? Seems it is time for neighborhood folk to step in and report these monsters for any negative activity they observe. What happened to Neighborhood Watch?

carlsgoood wrote on Dec 14, 2007 10:43 PM:Ya, good ol Carlsgood caught the culprits. Good job boys.. better catch that robber now.

Typical VCMS wrote on Dec 14, 2007 11:35 PM:Having grown up in that neighborhood, this doesn't surprise me at all. The cops did a great job in 1996 of arresting most of the gang members and cleaning up that neighborhood. One of the things they (the gang members) used to love to do was throw rocks at people's cars. I fought them numerous times over that issue, and I lived there! Ah, the memories. Anyway, now most of those idiots are getting out of jail, and their little brothers and cousins are coming up and joining the gang. Time to buy up all that land and build expensive row homes. Carlsbad would see its gang population drop to zero as a result. For as much as people like to claim that barrio Carlsbad has history, the only history it can really claim is that of poverty, drug use, petty crime, and gang banging.

Yes, buy it up and tear it down wrote on Dec 15, 2007 12:18 AM:Gang members families can get good money for the 'beach near' shacks. Developers and investors will line their pockets with cash so they don't have to rob banks (at least for awhile maybe?). Our kids went to Pine School years ago and the city gives the barrio a park when they tore down Pine School. No one feel safe venturing there, definitely not after dusk. The baggy pant dudes hang on corners, smoke, and who knows what else. Where are parents? Are they role models for their kids when they refuse to learn English? They want everything free. They steal in the stores, raise our prices and taxes. Yes, some are honest, but only a pitiful percentage. Don't know the solution, but many more innocents will become victims. Yes, the scum bags are getting out of prison, but why aren't they deported too? Oh, yeah, they just tunnel back in. They are recruiting at the elementary school level, esp seeking latch key kids.

To hmm from WHAT?? wrote on Dec 15, 2007 1:44 AM:Are you serious??? What praise tell is a skin head??? GEEZ!

not amused wrote on Dec 15, 2007 7:40 AM:Not that this would ever happen in this politically correct state, but how about making membership to a street gang a felony in of itself? While the state goes bankrupt supporting numerous issues that we should not be bothering with, many people cannot walk or drive through areas safely.

To WHAT?? wrote on Dec 15, 2007 8:00 AM:You just don't see skinheads in the barrios ... What's the difference? A thug is a thug despite their skin color. By separating them one implies that there are good criminals and bad criminals. But in fact they are a menace to a normal society.

TO TO WHAT?? wrote on Dec 15, 2007 3:55 PM:Please define 'normal society' - many want to know.

Definer wrote on Dec 15, 2007 5:22 PM:Gangs and the criminal activity often associated with it's membership is immature, abnormal behavior.

desperate times wrote on Dec 15, 2007 7:20 PM:People are just trying to hang in there, no excuse but its reality.

Definer wrote on Dec 15, 2007 8:04 PM:How does law-breaking equate to hanging in there?

Vistan wrote on Dec 15, 2007 8:41 PM:You do the crime - you do the time. Plain and simple.

To Not Amused wrote on Dec 16, 2007 12:29 AM:...how about making membership to a street gang a felony in of itself? My sentiments exactly. At the very least they are all accessories to any crime committed by one of their low life scum-bros'. Decent citizens need to speak up and get the laws changed or this kind of thing will just get worse since the current laws protect them.

FYI wrote on Dec 16, 2007 9:12 AM:Two things... Yes, deaf people can have a driver's license and drive...they CAN see you know, and it's not so different from people with radios tuned WAY up and/or phones tied in their ears... and, two..our WORST and most dangerous neighbors that we ever had, right here in Carlsbad, were very white. We can't connect crime to color. It's about values and choices.

NOT TYPICAL VCMS TO TYPICAL VCMS wrote on Dec 16, 2007 1:35 PM:I grew up in Carslbad too and what you said about it being typical is not true. Yeah things went on in the neighborhood but it wasn't always gang releated. For those who say its dangerous to walk there at night your wrong or sacred cause you dont know better. And another thing as much as gangs are not wanted, they are not going anywhere.

To to hmm from WHAT... wrote on Dec 16, 2007 2:56 PM:Come on, get your "catchy" phrases correct! The proper wording would be, "What pray tell"! GEEZ!

Get REAL wrote on Dec 20, 2007 11:12 AM:I put 100% on the people complaining about the person saying there are not to much news about white people in gangs are minorities. You can claim skin head this or blah blah that but the guy has a point. He said you dont hear to MUCH about them, not that they dont exist, and they are usually into high level crimes then throwing rocks and beating up deaf people. So cry me a river, and stop raising your people to think Dickies were created for gang representation and not for hard working blue collar people.

FTM wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:06 PM:Good Lord will you people wake up! You don't have a minority issue in Carlsbad, you have an ENFORCEMENT issue!
Let me break this to you gently:
CARLSBAD population is 80% WHITE - 11% HISPANIC - and .05% BLACK.

Either your WHITE people are commiting crimes, or your police department are letting 11 percent of the population run the city? I DON'T THINK SO.

Oceanside has 30% HISPANIC and since mid 2006 Oceanside has less crime per 1000 people of population than Carlsbad.

You folks don't have a "barrio" or a "mexican" problem, you have a DIVIDED COMMUNITY PROBLEM.

I suggest you all and your neighbers GET IT TOGETHER FAST before it becomes a big problem like what happened in the burbs of LA where all the black live in one hood, all the mexicans in another hood, all the whites in another hood, etc . . THAT is the kind of conditions that spawn crime and even RIOTS. You guys better get better integrated AND FAST.

free edgar wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:49 PM:you people are crazy.first of all,how do you know these guys commited a crime.what if one person commited a crime and the other just happened to be there.you are basically saying that you should do a crime because your genna get busted for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.these laws these days,there weird.come on,edgar had nothing to do with the crime,he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time!!!!you people should be criminals 4 just saying that an innocent person commited a crime that he didnt commit,get a life people!!!!i know this guy and he would never do anything like this,trust me!!!

pablo wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:32 PM:all those people are wrong for judging people for the Color of their skin or how they dress

Carmen wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:40 PM:look people telling their opinion and judging other people you know what GET A LIFE AND STOP SAYING DUMM STUFF ABOUT MEXICANS all of you pople think that you know WhatS up you dont know anything So dont be judging MEXICANS and FREE EDGAR AND JESUS

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