American people are tired of illegals! wrote on Dec 27, 2007 1:18 AM:I think Americans are more than happy to welcome "all" legal immigrants but illegal immigrants are not welcome! Why should our country accept those who steal across our borders over those who are law abiding and come in the right way? That is what is so frustrating! I thank anyone who has stepped up and called their senators, the president or taken any action to combat this problem!

Lawson wrote on Dec 27, 2007 3:05 AM:If you continue to treat the poor like pariahs, you have earned the double whammy of tumbling housing prices and overcharged credit cards. You need to walk a mile in the shoes of the poor!

Milo wrote on Dec 27, 2007 5:10 AM:Bush and the news media keep mis labeling this debate.
It's not immigration to which most citizens object, it's the flood of ILLEGAL immigration!

Ray wrote on Dec 27, 2007 5:25 AM:I don't think the Minutemen ever blamed the increase in traffic on illegal aliens because they should not be driving in the first place... right. But ther other statements like schools, medical care, welfare, degradation of neighborhoods, crime, gangs which follow these illegal aliens is a valid assessment. Don't go by studies, just drive around your town, look around and see for yourself. more communities and police agencies across the country are just starting to realize the problem caused by lawless entry by immigrants and are enacting laws to combat the problems. The writer of this story left out some vital facts, Since the Minutemen appeared in Fallbrook, crime has fallen, I know, I live here. also left out was ther ... rape and stabbing in Bonsall by illegal aliens (reported in the NCT) Just another "sob" piece by this reporter, no facts.

TO THE THREE STOOGES!!! wrote on Dec 27, 2007 6:37 AM:AS USUAL OPPORTUNISTIC POLITICIANS USE THE ILLEGAL CARD TO BLAME EVERYTHING TO THE UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE BUT IRONICLY ONLY THE ONES LOOKING FOR RE-ELECTION OR ASPIRING TO A NEW POLITICAL POSITION ARE THE ONES OPENING THEIR MOUTH; USUALLY THESE POLITICIANS ARE THE ONES WITH-OUT PROPER AGENDA AND THAT HAVE TO FOCUS IN A SINGLE ISSUE (IMMIGRATION)TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGES OF THE IGNORANCE OF VOTERS . IT'S VERY SAD TO SEE THESE SINGLE MINDED POLITICIANS RUNNING WITH-OUT THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE OF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND THE INTELIGENCE TO HAVE A MORE SOPHISTICATED AGENDA. REMEMBER "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF" DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY IS NOT CHRISTIAN!!!

intolerant and ignorant! wrote on Dec 27, 2007 6:47 AM:Mr. Gallo is trying to get re-elected using the illegal card, how convinient! his ignorance on the real issues on the community is clear and scary; is clearly that he will run his re-election in a single issue because the lock of knowledge on the real issues; hopefully he'll take notice of the changes that Mr. Abed is doing, being more tolerant and accomodating to the Hispanic Community!

What KILLS me is... wrote on Dec 27, 2007 6:59 AM:that we have government programs that SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! Why do we as a country REWARD illegal immigration? We provide education, food, health care and easy access to this country. This country and region is going into the toilet. Illegal immigration is a major part of the problem. If Bush has his way, the border would be down. He is banking on future votes for his party and family.

Warner: wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:07 AM: The president got it wrong again. Legal immigration is not the top concern of the nation - the top concern is illegal immigration, or illegal aliens. The situation is draining our nations wealth. The cost is overwhelming while those people that are in office do nothing. It is time for every citizen with voting rights to take action at the next election and oust the laggards presently in congress that spend their time working up "ear marks" and "pork barrels" for their own benefit that deplete our nations wealth.

Progress? wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:27 AM:The federal government is patting itself on the back because it deported 30,850 out of 6.5 million illegals in a 'crackdown'? If Joe Citizen worked as diligently as our government, we would be a 4th world nation. Just think, I pay my government 50% in income taxes, outrageous health insurance so that my kids can wait for hours in an emergency room, and my gifted children are ignored in public school just because our government wants to give illegals free health care, welfare handouts and a free education. Frankly, I think its about time for another tea party in Boston.

JoAnn wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:37 AM:"That was no match for the strong and vocal opposition from anti-illegal immigration groups, who derided it as amnesty." It was not just the anti immigration groups that helped defeat Bush/Kennedy and McCains amnesty bill. It was the millions of citizens accross the nation from every state that finally rose up and called their congressmen and senators and told them "NO". Witness the huge fumble Hillary made when asked the question of drivers licenses at the debate....

Susan wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:45 AM:Well, things are about to get worse when people finally figure out that Congress took away the funding for the double layer border fence in the budget Bush just signed. Not only was the funding removed, the wording of the fence act was changed so Homeland Security has the option of not building it at all. Everyone can thank the Democrats majority vote for this and if Hillary is elected it will make La Raza and the illegals very happy.

Nanchi wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:47 AM:They are here and they are working. Hope the Democrats get in and give them papers. Then at least we will know who's in our country.

I think it is wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:47 AM:time we demand the removal of our Congressmen and Congresswomen, if they cannot do or refuse to do the job the people have elected them to perform, then they have to go immediately. They need to remove themselves from office for the best interest of the America people.

Ray wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:59 AM:As some one said it clearly, America is in love with simple solutions. Our politicians will never understand that complex problems require complex solutions.

fedup wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:59 AM:simply put, we have got to stop illegals from coming here and send those that are already here back!
of course, no politician will have the backbone to do that.

Fred H wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:11 AM:Just ask any Native American what happens when you don't control immigration.

Absolutely Amazing wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:18 AM:Arizonia and Oklahoma and others can do the job, do we have idiots in the Presidental office and in Congress?

Concerned-1 wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:45 AM:For all those who support the illegal immigration efforts, I would suggest "walking in thier shoes." Just drive through any of the areas in question in Escondido, Vista, Oceanside, etc. If you like what you see, support it. It is a free country, for now. Like they say, what you see is what you get.

Sidelines wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:47 AM:As a side bar to the story, check out what is happening in Baja. If we continues down this road, that's what we will have here.

esteban wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:48 AM:Way to go Pelosi!!!!! So much for the new, efficient Congress.

Ignorance wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:49 AM:Ignorance is using all caps all the time.

Skip wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:53 AM:I blame the increase in traffic on illegal aliens. That is what got me into the anti-illegal immigration in the first place. Remember the Illegal Alien day of May 1, 2006, when all of the roads and freeways worked as designed. Immigration, both illegal and legal is what is driving this country's population out of control. Just look at a typical drivers' license checkpoint in North County where they can impound 100 cars in just 8 hours. You are fooling yourself if you do not think that illegals take up space, and that includes housing, medical services, schools, and of course our roads and freeways. They also consume gasoline, water, and electricity. Our population is out of control, and our resources are limited. Yes our government if forcing us to conserve and reduce our consumption by 5 to 10%. But what good is that when our population will increase by 25%? According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 12/27/07 at 16:49 GMT (EST+5) is 303,113,889. http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html

You had better educate wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:54 AM:yourselves as VOTERS. Voting for almost any of the Democrats is a vote for continued illegal immigration. There are only three Republicans running who support enforcing laws against illegal immigration and none of them are the front runners. I only wish Lou Dobbs would run for President. He is the ONLY person who sounds like he knows what he is talking about, AND he ISN'T a politician.

NIck wrote on Dec 27, 2007 9:02 AM:As a Native "Fred H", I'll tell you what happens. All the Libs and Dems want to give them the Country and every handout they can to appeast their bleeding hearts. You know why Oklahoma was the first to pass laws against the ILLEGALS? Because the Natives are fed up with ILLEGALS. Plain and Simple.

To Late our leaders were asleep the past twenty years! wrote on Dec 27, 2007 9:16 AM:Our so called leaders that are supposed to look at the future and make decisions for us could not predict millions coming across the border, having babies, attending schools, utilizing services, etc, etc. Even though illegal aliens have been coming over for years, our leaders could not stop it. Today it is only 12 million illegal aliens, in ten years there will be 30 million.

To: Sidelines wrote on Dec 27, 2007 9:18 AM:Aren't there lots of things happening in Baja ? To what are you referring ? It helps to know. I actually can think of 3 or 4 good things that are happening, along with lots of bad things.

You still don't get it wrote on Dec 27, 2007 9:57 AM:Lawson....you still don't get it, it not about being poor its about criminal activity of stealing across our border of laws and procedures. Do you encourage breaking laws? Have you put 25 of the poor illegals in your house because they can't make it in their own country?

Mike America wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:04 AM:Does everyone realize that as we were all out doing our last minute Christmas shopping and preparing for the holidays congress passed an omnibus spending bill and GWB signed off on it, that guts the secure fence act and provides $10 million in 'emergency' funding for attorneys of illegal immigrants, as well as other perqs and incentives for the conttinued ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION

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Sidelines wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:09 AM:Recent articles here in SD and recently in the NY Times have reported increased violence against American tourists, especially surfers, in Baja. And then there's the story about the Baja 500 where some alleged Baja "narcos," aka gangsters, were killed in a helicopter crash while watching the race. According to reports (UT,and others), afterwards more than a dozen SUVs carrying numerous armed men drove into Ensenada and stormed the morgue to get their buddies’ bodies. The caravan later ran a police barricade killing two officers. The picture I'm getting is that Baja is a lawless state. I don't want California to become one as well.

Suggestion wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:17 AM:I suggest all who are concerned about illegal immigration see the documentary film "Border". Whether you are for or against illegal immigration, support the minutemen or see them as racial vigilantes, you need to see what is taking place on our southern border. A DVD is available on line. And it's obvious from a few of the posts above that some are still in denial about the difference between legal and illegal.

dave from oceanside wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:19 AM:I nominate Lou Dobbs for President!
He's against illegal aliens.
He's against outsourcing our jobs to China and Asia and India etc...
He's for securing our borders.
He supports our retirees.
He is not bought out by big business.
Again, he's against ILLEGAL aliens.

Fred H wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:23 AM:Speaking of Lou Dobbs: "Calling an illegal alien an ‘undocumented immigrant’ is like calling a drug dealer an ‘unlicensed pharmacist.’”

El Guero wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:37 AM:A nice summary of the year's immigration wars. It's clear that immigration reform failed because of a lack of leadership in Washington DC. Unfortunately, that lack of leadership started at the top. The president said, 'Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people, and Congress' failure to act is a disappointment.' But it was Bush who completely ignored those concerns as he pressed for a broad amnesty and guest-worker program.

Nanchi wrote on Dec 27, 2007 11:11 AM:Get a grip folks. They are HERE. They have jobs, home loans funded by banks. We MUST sort them out with documents and then employer sanctions. We have no idea who is in this country. Talking about the deportation of 13 million people is crazy.

ed wrote on Dec 27, 2007 11:22 AM:More than 6 years after 9/11 Bush has deliberately kept the borders open. If we can send an army to the other side of the world we could surely secure the southern border. The blame lies with the Bush administration who have an agreement with the Mexican elite to suppy cheap labor.

Skip wrote on Dec 27, 2007 11:40 AM:Due to the downturn of our economy a lot of Illegals are self-deporting. Gone are the days when an Illegal could make over $1,000 a week under the table working in the construction trades. Now a lot of them must scrape by at day labor sites where the competition is fierce. Working as a busboy just does not cut it for a lot them. I hope a lot of them do go home because when the poor and uneducated go broke, they are more apt to resort to crime.

fedup wrote on Dec 27, 2007 11:46 AM:"to nanchi"....the illegals are not entiltled to jobs, housing, health care, etc on my dime! there are only about 25 million here and yes, they can all leave! no need to deport them, just take away their illegal jobs, all of the freebies that they get and they will leave on their own.

to NIck wrote on Dec 27, 2007 12:02 PM:I was making a play on history. This country was 'invaded' after 1492 by the Europeans and the native Americans were literally kicked out of their own home. Same thing today. History repeats itself.

Skip wrote on Dec 27, 2007 12:05 PM:The 2008 debate about immigration policy and America's future kicks off in Iowa, as talk radio hosts from around the state and around the nation come to Des Moines for two days to focus on the issue that is number one on the minds of their listeners. The Iowa 2007 Talk Radio Row, organized by the FAIR Congressional Task Force, will originate from the Des Moines Marriott Hotel continuously from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.on December 27 and 28, as 22 of America's leading talk show hosts broadcast live from Iowa.

Ken wrote on Dec 27, 2007 12:05 PM:All of this should have been taken care of back in 1986, but our government just turned a blind eye and now look at the mess that we are in today. It is time to take back our country and stop the ILLEGAL ALIENS and ILLEGAL DRUGS from coming into this fine land. Go after ALL of the employers that are giving the ILLEGAL ALIENS jobs. STOP giving the ILLEGAL ALIENS the free benefits such as, welfare, free education, ..., medical care, just to name a few. We need to do like Arizona and Oklahoma and get our law enforcement officers trained to deal with the Immigration laws. Enough is enough, time to stand up American Citizens and shout "I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!"

Har Har.... wrote on Dec 27, 2007 12:07 PM:nothing will be done about the illegal immigrants. Twenty years from now the "problem" will still exist. First, the rich and powerful need the cheap labor pool to make more money. They run this country anyway. For them, the illegal "problem" isn't really a problem. Secondly, when did congress ever get together to tackle a major issue? As soon as the election passes, you won't hear any more about illegal immigration solutions. I think its funny because I support undocumented workers and I think the borders should be open to all. So HAR HAR! Put that in your minuteman pipe and smoke on it.

El Guero wrote on Dec 27, 2007 12:27 PM:Talk of deporting 13 million people is only 'crazy' to people who don't want to see it happen. That includes a small cohort of friends, family, and compatriots of illegal immigrants who post comments on this site. But the law requires that they leave. And if you haven't noticed, the overwhelming consensus of opinion here and everywhere else favors voluntary or forced deportation or repatriation of every illegal immigrant man, woman, and child.

To Bad wrote on Dec 27, 2007 1:36 PM:California politicians do not care as much about the people they represent as Arizona's does. When are we going to wake up and elect people that truly want to represent the will of the people who elect them. So many problems for us citizens would go away if they would step up and protect our country from this illegal alien invasion.

Hey, Har Har---- wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:02 PM:Borders should be open to all? Have you given a half a thought of what goes with that? Does anarchy also appeal to you? Go down and spend some time in Laredo and see how you like it.

Pluto wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:02 PM:Har Har is right. Bush and Congress work for the "rich and powerful" (s)he mentions, and they all know a few things the Minutemen don't know, which is why they don't "fix the problem": 1) The U.S. economy needs cheaper labor than is available among citizens and legal residents; 2) Our privileged way of life depends on these workers, and disaster would ensue if they were all deported; 3) deporting 12+ million people is virtually impossible anyway.

Nick wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:07 PM:To to Nick: My point also. This land was invaded and stolen once before and now it is happening again. Guess what? You don't see any Illegals on The Res. You know why? They're not welcome and they know it. Now if only the rest of the Country would wake up and do the same!

Marcos wrote: wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:08 PM:You forgot to mention the guy who attacked the MM plead guilty.He assaulted the man and was THEN sprayed with Pepper spray! I was there and saw this angry attack. Thankfully the law prevailed.

to Ken @12:05pm wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:11 PM:You say "All of this should have been taken care of back in 1986". Maybe you haven't heard of a fundamental law of nature which holds that all things change all the time. Since 1986 there was something called NAFTA (1994), which broke the back of a fragile Mexican economy, drove the peso down, and caused the current wave of desperate immigrants who can't come here legally because they don't qualify. They are victims of our government's economic policies which serve the rich and powerful, not us.

People, People wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:19 PM:there are no problems! MEXICO CITY - Biologist Karen Krebbs used to study bats in Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument on the Arizona-Mexico border. Then, she got tired of dodging drug smugglers all night. "I use night-vision goggles, and you could see them very clearly" - caravans of men with guns and huge backpacks full of drugs, trudging through the desert, Krebbs said. After her 10th or 11th time hiding in bushes and behind rocks, she abandoned her research. "I'm just not willing to risk my neck anymore," she said

vision wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:20 PM:Its easy to talk about "not allowing outsourcing", "kicking out all illegals" etc. They are currently dear to the common American's ears and the politicians will play that music to keep the common American happy to get their votes.

The capitalist society was built based on profits. Do the politicians have a plan to increase the profits of the companies that they are asking of to not outsource the jobs? No.

If the politicians have to point out a specific creed of illegals, who do they point out? Mexicans. Do you hear them single out any European population that is illegal in this country? No.
Is it because the Mexican illegal population is much higher than others? Possible. But I have a sneaking suspicion that if the majority of the illegal population was well to do caucasians, it would not cause so much stir as it is currently causing.

El Guero wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:27 PM:It appears that Har Har... may, in fact, have the last word on our immigration 'problem': 'First, the rich and powerful need the cheap labor pool to make more money.' Who can dispute the logic? Then, he predicts, 'As soon as the election passes, you won't hear any more about illegal immigration solutions.' Who can doubt that with the current crop of Republicrat front-runners that it won't happen? But I can't agree with his assertion that he 'supports undocumented workers' and thinks the borders should be 'open to all.' The beauty of this forum is that you don't have to mean what you say. So maybe Har Har... really means it, or he doesn't. The only important thing to remember is that there is a majority of Americans who oppose illegal immigration and any attempt to grant even more illegal immigrants permission to settle permanently in the U.S. Let's keep our 'eyes on the prize': getting rid of the 13 to 20 million illegal immigrants in our midst.

To Pluto wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:29 PM:Impossible to deport? Why don't you tell that to Oklahoma and Arizona?

Deportation Plan wrote on Dec 27, 2007 3:03 PM:I call it mass self-deportation. If you lawn guy, house keeper, construction or anyone you support hires illegals, FIRE THEM! EMPLOYERS ARE TO BLAME. The fact is that many citizens and companies employ illegals in one form or another. Indirect or direct. You need to FIRE and NOT SUPPORT THESE companies regardless of what the impact is on them. Once the work is gone, they all leave because there is no work. It may be a rough route but it is the only way out of this quagmire.

Ray wrote on Dec 27, 2007 3:05 PM:Since everyone wants to use old "addiges" remember this one "tall fences make good neighbors".

Concerned-1 wrote on Dec 27, 2007 3:41 PM:Just for clarification "Har Har" you're okay with what the illegal alien population is doing to our cities? Our hospitals? Our schools? Our jails? I'm wondering what you are smoking in your pipe?

A good policy wrote on Dec 27, 2007 3:53 PM:We need a new sign on the border gates. It should say "We refuse the right to serve social services to anyone who is not here legally."

BoltDan wrote on Dec 27, 2007 4:16 PM:I believe you all have a point... Republicans want the cheap labor for their big companies and the DEm's want the illegal votes.. it seems like it is a win-win situation for POL's... so let's sit down and figure out how to stem it, stop it, and fix it instead of name calling and stating NO AMNESTY. Fix the border then figure how to either deport or amnesty... That is the way to get something done because once again the POliticians won't.

Bob wrote on Dec 27, 2007 4:16 PM:We should be paying more for a meal out, a hotel room and a head of lettuce and less for the REAL expensive stuff, like emergency rooms, Doctors, Teachers, schools, Police, Firemen and on and on. I promise you that we DO NOT have unlimited resources. Quality of life is going down, as our elected officials force us into being like Mexico, where there is no middle class and there are only poor and the rich. We need to end illegal immigration, and be selective on who is allowed in legally. We can take a lesson from the Aussies, they do not believe that a non citizen is entitled to immigrate to their country, and they don't want
trouble makers and deadbeats.

Daves wrote on Dec 27, 2007 4:36 PM:I keep hearing that individual states have no right to enforce their own immigration laws, but this shows that the American taxpayer has been hoodwinked, by the stealth of the globalist, open-border, free-trade organizations. Couldn't be more obvious to me that States have a right to remove the 12 to 20 million illegal squatters from our lands, costing taxpayers two trillion dollars a year with no real consequences for the predator businesses around the nation. January 1st, Arizona enforces strict illegal immigration laws, along with Georgia, Oklahoma and to a lesser extent Missouri. According to even the majore suppressed media, large masses of illegal foreign workers and families are making an exodus of these states.

What Russell Pearce (R-AZ) , State legislator stated: "You know, clearly, states have inherent authority to enforce federal law, including immigration law. Had Congress not wanted the states to enforce these laws, they have what is called plenary powers. They could have invoked those and preempted the states from enforcing these laws. They didn't do that. In fact, Congress has made it clear it's always been the intents for the states.
When do not states have a constitutional responsibility for their citizens for the economic harm, the crime and damage and the cost to the taxpayers, the legal citizens? We have a constitutional responsibility. The citizens have a constitutional right and it's time for our politicians and our policy makers to quit hiding and put America first, put the American citizens first and enforce the law. "

No links are allowed but for the unrestricted truth, even in American newspapers go to these sites AmericanPatrol, fairus, LibertyPost, Dark Side of Illegal Immigration and ImmigrationCounters.

cheeky wrote on Dec 27, 2007 4:38 PM:We, the people, need to realize that the congress, senate and the president no longer work for us. They work for special interest groups and lobbiests. I've tried for nearly 40 yrs to get notice of illegals taking over the blue collar industry to deaf ears. The money must be good enough to commit treason. Or shall we call it a sell out. We still are losing this 0ne.

cheeky wrote on Dec 27, 2007 4:48 PM:limited text only allows me to say so much. To continue. I no longer can work in my chosen field since all the jobs are handed over to illegals. The real issue is businesses breaking the existing laws. Bust them. They are the real criminals here. Watch what your representitives do. Vote them out if they turn their heads away form the illegal issue.

Skip wrote on Dec 27, 2007 5:54 PM:Despite the efforts of the Open Borders groups to shut down the Radio Caucus on Immigration in Des Moines, Iowa the radio show is on right now. Free Speech will not be shut down and that scares the activists that want to open our borders to anyone. Even on their baseless claims that this caucus is hate speech and it poisoning the Political caucus, from what I have heard, it is simply Americans telling their side and their stories. The radio debate will go on through tomorrow. The show is simal-cast on your computer right now.

Nanchi wrote on Dec 27, 2007 5:55 PM:They've been here for the last hundred years. But it would be easy to fix - legalize those here working (with no criminal record). Get FOOLPROOF worker ID cards. Then fine employers if they hire anyone illegal. No jobs, and they would SELF-DEPORT, and quickly. But business doesn't want to fix it.

Census Bureau Projects Population of 303.1 Million wrote on Dec 27, 2007 6:00 PM:As our nation prepares to ring in the new year, the U.S. Census Bureau today projected the Jan. 1, 2008, population will be 303,146,284 -- up 2,842,103 or 0.9 percent from New Year’s Day 2007. In January, the United States is expected to register one birth every eight seconds and one death every 11 seconds. Meanwhile, net international migration is expected to add one person every 30 seconds. The result is an increase in the total U.S. population of one person every 13 seconds.

SDMM Rocks! wrote on Dec 27, 2007 6:21 PM:Thank you San Diego Minutemen for fighting for us all in 2007. Amazing that you got McGonigle Canyon cleared out of all the illegal migrants there. Love your website! Keep up the great work for us.

ed wrote on Dec 27, 2007 6:48 PM:Bush calls them vigilantes

Harry wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:02 PM:In my lifetime we've been told by the government to fear, hate and dehumanize German fascists, then it was the Russian, Cuban, Vietnamese, Korean and Chinese commies, then for a short time the US militias, then the moslems, now it's the Mexicans, next it will be the Chinese and Russians again... who will be after that?

Thanks to those who fight illegal immigration!! wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:28 PM:I appreciate anyone who steps up to stop these invaders. As far as the MM go, I doubt Bush would call them vigilantes now. They are people stepping up for their country while many ,me included, sit home and watch a football game etc. Thanks again from this Del Mar resident. We must all do something about these invaders!

Vigilante wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:33 PM:Look how that worked out for Jorge Bush! He got a backlash like he never imagined!
No one hates Mexicans. Most Mexican Americans are deeply offended by low-life illegal aliens cutting in line. Stop sucking on the ultra liberal pacifier!

Fondest hope.... wrote on Dec 27, 2007 7:50 PM:

It is my fondest hope that California will follow the way of Arizona and Colorado. Since illegals are to blame for all our problems, make life miserable for them.Make 'em leave. Then see how many Minutemen and other white supremacists will quickly move in and bus dishes, pick strawberries and wipe the bottoms of white babies for minimum wages. Breaking the back of immigrant labor, coupled with the deepening housing crisis and sending $80 billion a month to George Bush's stupid war. That'll really fix us. Yeah, Lou Dobbs for president. Good luck!

Voice of Reason wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:15 PM:There's a perfectly logical reason the SD minutemen are blaming illegal aliens for "practically any problem" that arises. It is because every problem we now face in America is exacerbated (please refer to the dictionary for help with that word Ed) by the presence of far too many people who have come here illegally. It is all their fault. Build the damned fence already.

Bobby wrote on Dec 27, 2007 8:40 PM:Yeah, I know what you mean about Bush's war and its costs to this nation, but I see your logic as the type that makes one think of the phrase, would does it profit a man if he gains the whole world(or Iraq) but loses his soul.(his nation) All because of his neglect of what illegal immigration is doing RIGHT HERE. Millions of Americans neither eat strawberries, nor have babies who's butts need wiping. Many Americans are, on the other hand, being killed by seven times deported drunk driving illegal aliens, murdered raped, and have their Identities stolen, just to mention a few side benefits you forgot to mention that are also brought to Americans by illegals.

Cliff wrote on Dec 27, 2007 9:26 PM:If our elected members of Congress would deal with the truth of the matter rather than trying to hide behind whatever spin is available at the moment, we wouldn’t have this problem. This country belongs to the American people. Why are they so offended at enforcing its laws? Congress members keep turning their backs on the issue of illegal immigration because some powerful groups want to take political and gainful advantage of the situation. You are in Congress to serve the peoples interest. Do your duty. If you don’t get re-elected because you voted a certain way, go home. No shame. Don’t let your ego become larger than the office. It will blind you.

Bert wrote on Dec 27, 2007 9:27 PM:Iwould like to point out some of the negative impacts of illegal immigrants.
1. Removal of 12 million people would free up a couple million house, driving rental costs down.
2. Removal of 12 million people would relieve overcrowding of emergency health facilities and giving away our precious health care. Maybe more health care facilities would reopen.
3. Removal of 12 million people would remove probably 4 million cars from our roads. No telling how many without insurance.
4. Removal of 12 million people would greatly reduce school overcrowding. Maybe we could reach the goal of only 30 students per class.
5. Removal of 12 million people would result in 20+ BILLION dollars from crossing our borders anually to support a corrupt government.
This is enough for now, if I think of more (of which there are many) I’ll post them somewhere.

vistalandowner wrote on Dec 27, 2007 10:08 PM:Couple of points missed
1. They are the only thing supporting social security, 25 million paying in is alot of $$ and since the politicos steal every cent that comes in they need people paying in that won't be taking out.
2. It could be worse, at least they are mostly hard working and come from christian based churches, better than what Europe is dealing with (Muslums)
3. Bad news is their kids, have less interest in becoming Americans than they do, bad attitudes, gangs etc.
4. IF YOU/WE QUIT HIRING THEM THEY WILL STOP COMING> PERIOD

American Mike wrote on Dec 28, 2007 12:26 AM:Oh, common, I wanna play too. Please stop the moderation.

Larry B wrote on Dec 28, 2007 12:44 AM:Seven years of the Bush "open borders/amnesty" immigration policy has done immeasurable and permanent damage to our nation. Forty percent of all illegal aliens domiciled in the U.S. arrived here since January, 2001. What a rotten stinking Bush legacy!

tobeornot wrote on Dec 28, 2007 6:14 AM:Actually vistalandowner Bernanke stated in a senate hearing that illegals if even made legal have no effect on social security and actually would cost social security overall.

Julie Q wrote on Dec 28, 2007 10:51 AM:"The Illegal Card" is ALSO used to convict murderers (it is ILLEGAL to murder people), to steal (it is ILLEGAL to steal), and to describe those who BREAK OUR LAWS!! Illegal MEANS illegal!! Such ignorance further shows the ignorance of those who USE the phrase "Illegal Card". Criminals forfiet their rights in this country--REGARDLESS of WHERE those criminals come from. Criminals from another country are NOT ENTITLED to rights which our own citizens do not have. WAKE up!! Educate yourself!

Just love my country wrote on Dec 28, 2007 1:03 PM:I agree, talk of deporting 13 million is ridiculous when there are at least 30 million that need to be deported. stop giving illegal's social services,access to bank accounts,and most of them will self deport.first, sell off any belongings they have acquired to help pay for the cost of deporting them.Most of all people please join or contribute to your local patriotic group that is fighting this invasion.Numbers count folks.Politocians acknowledge voting blocks.

As Heard In Iowa Today wrote on Dec 28, 2007 2:30 PM:"A country that can't protect its own borders cannot remain a sovereign nation," former Sen. Fred Thompson told supporters Thursday at a rally in suburban Des Moines. "We have to stop illegal immigration!" The battle cry was greeted with thunderous applause.

Quote: RON PAUL wrote on Dec 28, 2007 5:27 PM:Ron Paul: If you subsidize something you get more of it. And we've been forced to subsidize illegal immigration; you know the promise of amnesty, the promise of birthright, citizenship, free medical care, free education, food stamps and getting on Social Security.

Today in Des Moines wrote on Dec 28, 2007 6:40 PM:Twenty talk show hosts from across the nation are gathering in Des Moines today in a "Talk Radio Row" organized by the Federation for American Immigration Reform that is intended to bring presidential candidates' positions on immigration reform into the spotlight.

Mexico to use biochip to control illegal immigration wrote on Dec 28, 2007 7:41 PM:Mexico's National Migration Institute has said it will introduce electronic registration for foreigners entering the country through the southern border to curb illegal immigration. In a communique, the INM Thursday said Biochip implants would be used to control the entry of workers and visitors from Belize and Guatemala.

GOGGLE "Americans for Better Immigration" wrote on Dec 28, 2007 9:27 PM:NumbersUSA’s Roy Beck Assesses Republican and Democratic Presidential Candidates On Immigration Issues.

Will Arizona's new immigration law work? wrote on Dec 28, 2007 9:48 PM:What would happen if the United States seriously enforced the ban on hiring illegal immigrants. We may find out starting Tuesday, when Arizona promises to do it locally. -- The Arizona law is tough. Companies that knowingly employ illegal workers will have their business licenses suspended for a first offense...

anotherview wrote on Dec 28, 2007 10:25 PM:Illegal aliens have no right to live and work in America. Good citizens obey the law, and expect others to do the same. By enforcement of the law against hiring illegal aliens, the jobs for illegal aliens will dry up. With no job, the illegal aliens will self-deport (at their own expense) -- no national roundup needed. America can free itself of illegal aliens, by enforcement of the law, and will prosper all the more.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Dec 28, 2007 11:23 PM:I'd like to suggest that if you're concerned about illegal immigration, or don't know the real impact, watch 'Gangland' on the History Channel if you'd like to see what the Mexican Mafia, Nuestra Familia, MS-13, Latin Kings and other Latino gangs are doing to our country. And if you'd like to do more research, look at the SD Sheriffs 'most wanted' link to see the faces of the the kind of people coming into this country and the so-called 'culture' they're bringing with them. Go to the FBI's Featured Fugitives, Violent Crimes, Murder link and see for yourself at the kinds of criminals that have permeated our communities. Look into the activities of racist groups such as NCLR (National Council of La Raza) and MEChA. They're objective is not only to promote open borders and grant amnesty, but reconquista (taking back of the US Southwest by Mexicans). It's high time for concerned American citizens to stand up and fight this onslaught of illegal immigration before it's too late. Parts of our country are already turning into the kind of country Mexico and others already are. The illegal immigrants who come here aren't the creme of the crop. They're from the lowest rung of the socio-economic ladder. There are plenty of good candidates running for President who are making illegal immigration a top priority of their campaign. Don't vote for Clinton, Obama, or Edwards if you want change. They're the ones we need to worry about, and are more likely to grant amnesty, and do very little to stem the flow of illegal aliens into this country. The time for action is now and we need to do whatever it takes to stem the flow and foster an environment where illegal aliens engage in self-deportation.

Buba wrote on Dec 29, 2007 12:00 PM:Maybe the American Indians should also throw out all the "illegal immigrants" that invaded their land.

To Buba wrote on Dec 29, 2007 1:19 PM:Maybe every country on Earth should throw out every other country who ever invaded them throughout time immemorial. Maybe the entire Earth's population should all go back to the "cradle of civilization" in Africa. Your argument is JUST too ignorant. 2007: the USA is a modern, sovereign nation whose ancestors invaded and conquered North America 600 years ago. Just like EVERY nation on Earth. THAT is H I S T O R Y!!! Get it?

Jerry wrote on Dec 29, 2007 1:58 PM:I know what you mean Bubito.

Bobby wrote on Dec 29, 2007 2:01 PM:They can't throw us out Buba, their getting to rich off of us with all of the Casinos. It would be a stupid business decision. It's like a money tree, know what I mean? And they can get revenge at the same time. Sweet.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Dec 29, 2007 8:40 PM:We're at a very pivotal time in our history. With much of the world in some sort of chaos and turmoil, including the situation at our southern border, we're in dire need of political action from our leaders. We need to construct an impenetrable double wall across the entire southern border, and must increase the size of our Border Patrol, Coast Guard, and Immigration Customes Enforcement teams if we want to control the hoards of illegal aliens and flow of drugs coming in. We need employer sanctions and require proof of citizenship and valid SSN's. The impending flu pandemic (H5N1 Avian or Bird Flu) is coming, and we're going to be faced with many more illegal aliens trying to come here because of Mexico's limited resources to provide treatment to it’s citizens. Our hospitals and healthcare providers will be stretched to the limit treating the hoards of uninsured illegal aliens who typically use emergency rooms for all their medical needs. Vista Community Clinic will have lines of illegal aliens expecting medical treatment. Illegal aliens come here with an expectation of entitlement. My spouse works in education, and most citizens would be horrified at what illegal aliens come to expect. They demand special treatment and take things for granted. One parent actually demanded that the school provide a psychological specialist to evaluate her child, when it was the parent who was the real problem. They expect to be given things ‘gratis’ and for free. It’s high time our political leaders step up and actually show leadership and take the appropriate steps stem the flow of illegal aliens into this country.

James wrote on Dec 30, 2007 1:57 PM:Greg in Oceanside, don't blame the illegal aliens for what they expect. This is false thinking. Blame instead, Americans who allow it all. The school administrators, the judges, the courts, the lawyers, the (edit) little businesses that exploit them, the big businesses that exploit them and make the taxpayer pay for the social costs of these folks. In short, blame the apathetic,"I got mine" attitude of the people who call themselves "Americans". What a disgrace they all are to their heritage. Not true?

vistalandowner wrote on Dec 30, 2007 4:25 PM:As stated, if the American people decide to not hire them, they will leave and not come here.Period

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Dec 30, 2007 6:57 PM:As stricter laws in Arizona are put into affect in January, we're going to see illegal aliens depart AZ in massive numbers, whether to other states or back home through self-deportations. This should serve as a compelling argument for those states near and around Arizona to do the same. Nonetheless, while we need to be friendly to our visitors, we need to maintain intolerance to those who come here illegally or overstay their visit. Sure, we can certainly say illegal aliens are people too, but so is everyone else in this world and we can't be the safety net for everyone. And there's the argument that illegal aliens come here for jobs. What many people don't understand is the macro-economic and financial impact that also comes into play. Billions of dollars are sent across the border and is taken out of circulation here in our economy. Most illegal aliens do not pay taxes which pays for the things they use for free, from our roads and schools to our healthcare and welfare systems, which are all ultimately paid for by the taxpayers. The ‘costs’ of illegal immigration are real and have a much more profound impact than most realize. Look at the urban decay and criminal gangs plaguing our inner cities. We have thousands of Hispanic gangs and criminals roaming our streets. We have school districts struggling to meet the intent of the No Child Left Behind Act and are straddled with teaching the children of illegal aliens, many of whom don't speak English. Who's affected? You be the judge. Resources are diverted to help the ESL kids while our children are neglected. I'm sorry, but as a hardworking US citizen I've had enough.

Nick wrote on Jan 1, 2008 6:47 PM:To Greg in O-Side: You are not alone my friend. There are millions of Americans who feel just like you and 2008 will hopefully bring some positive change. The politicians hear us, but will they actually do something, that is the question!

Objection wrote on Jan 4, 2008 11:30 AM:First of all, immigrants are NOT aliens, they're people just like us. Second of all, I bet no one in this country is full blooded American. If you look back to your ancestors I bet you'll find you have some indian, chinese, mexican, irish, or something else in your blood. No one is pure American. Also if this is a "free" country why do people need a "ticket" to get in. It shouldn't be that big of a deal for people to come in "freely" to a "free" country.

Bobby wrote on Jan 4, 2008 2:56 PM:Objection, "free" in any nation on earth you care to state, does not mean allowing people unlimited access. You are under some really weird delusions. If you feel so idealistic about it all, why don't you leave the doors to your house open, and let the neighborhood kid use it for parties as well as your car while your at it? I admitt, the attitude of some people in this country literally frightens me.