Vista eyeing future of trailer parks

By: CRAIG TENBROECK | Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:31 PM PST

A trailer is seen in the Vista RV Park on Pala Vista Road in Vista. City officials have begun to discuss the idea of new low-income housing in Vista that might eventually house trailer park residents.
JOHN RAIFSNIDER For the North County Times
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VISTA - There are plenty of reasons that Orange Grove, a small, hardscrabble trailer park on a hillside above East Vista Way, doesn't appear in the city's promotional brochures.

The trailers are mostly old and the pavement is cracked. Tiny yards are dotted with the unattractive detritus of low-income living: Tarps, frayed furniture and house wares too large to fit inside.

The Orange Grove trailer park is one of three in Vista that city officials have described as "not in the best repair." Now discussions are under way in the city's Department of Housing and Redevelopment about how to get park residents into better housing.

One option is for the city to build 90 to 100 units of low-cost housing at a different location and help park residents relocate there, said William Rawlings, the city's redevelopment director.

Rawlings said last week that he's been seeking a developer to partner on such an endeavor, but cautioned that the idea is still "very, very preliminary." He said he couldn't estimate the cost of such a project, or say where new low-income housing might be built.

Nothing has yet been proposed to the City Council, he added.

Owners of the trailer parks could not be reached for comment last week.

"This is not a sexy project," Rawlings said. "This is kind of a labor of love. You've really got to want to improve the lot of these folks to get this project off the ground."

Reasons to stay?

Trailer parks offer low-cost housing in a part of the country where cheap rent has become an oxymoron.

At Orange Grove, residents have no illusions about their surroundings. Some describe the trailer park as run-down and dilapidated - an "eyesore" - but say the low cost of living and relative privacy are reason enough to stick around.

"What the hell," said a grinning, 55-year-old resident named Dave who declined to give his last name. "It's just a box to crawl into anyway."

For park residents, talk of relocation generates both smiles and sighs.

Some say they would jump at the chance to ditch trailer life for an apartment or condominium - if it were affordable. Others say they'd feel surrounded in an apartment, or they're skeptical that their rent would stay the same.

"I'm not planning on going unless I'm forced out of here," said Marilyn Adams, a 58-year-old telemarketer who has lived for 15 years in Orange Grove.

Adams' lot is an outlier in the park - tucked in a corner, it features a spacious backyard where she has planted a host of fruit trees: orange, apple, fig, even kumquat. She's erected a small workshop that draws power from her home via an extension cord.

Her 1955 trailer is 38 feet long, with three rooms - including one that has been built on to the original body of the fifth-wheel motor home. She bought the trailer for $6,500 but spent thousands on improvements, she said.

Her rent? Roughly $500, she said.

Not everyone who lives in the park is wedded to the land.

Standing on a cluttered porch behind a gate made of PVC pipe, Paul Rodgers, 50, said the years hadn't been kind to Orange Grove - especially the plumbing.

"I would hop to a move real quick," he said.

But those comments drew a grimace from his wife, Jeanne, who took over from her mother a few years ago as park manager.

"I don't care for apartment living," she said.

"And then there's us ..."

City officials say their intent is not to purchase the park properties, then force park residents to relocate. Thus far, the city hasn't even contacted the property owners, he said.

"We're not in the business of making somebody move," Rawlings said. "We're trying to find them better housing ... If 90 people say we don't want to move, well, we don't have a project."

Yet if residents do relocate, "we certainly don't want to have a vacant lot there," Rawlings added. "As an afterthought, we'd look at how we would redevelop those sites."

Each of the trailer parks is in a neighborhood where the city is planning for aggressive development.

Both Vista RV Park and Elms Trailer Estates are in the city's South Santa Fe Avenue "revitalization area" -- a blighted strip that the city has long planned to convert into multistory buildings with retail shops, restaurants and condominiums.

Orange Grove is adjacent to a 16-acre vacant lot where a developer recently won approval for "The Vineyards," a modern development with dozens of houses fronted by tall, live-work lofts.

But Rawlings said that none of the park properties is particularly valuable to the city. They're relatively small, he said, and Orange Grove, in particular, would be tough to develop because of its steep slopes.

"This is not prime real estate," he said. "There's no reason to do this other than to improve the housing stock."

Standing near a neighbor's trailer last week, Dave said he wasn't surprised that Orange Grove had drawn the attention of City Hall. He gestured across the street to a shopping center under renovation.

"Everything's getting a face-lift around here," Dave said. "And then there's us ..."

Devil in the details

A few miles away, at the Vista RV Park in central Vista, Angelica Chavez, 24, smiled at the thought of a low-cost apartment with enough floor space to accommodate her 11-year-old son's wheelchair.

There's not enough room in the tiny trailer, which is shared by two adults and two children, so the wheelchair stays outside.

For Dave, a carpenter and a five-year resident of Orange Grove, the devil would be in the relocation details.

Would he have enough space for his tools (now he can store them in his neighbor's shed), or would he have to pony up cash for a storage unit?

"I can upgrade from trailer trash to apartment trash," he said with a chuckle. "But in the long run, am I going to be any better off?"

Contact staff writer Craig TenBroeck at (760) 901-4062 or ctenbroeck@nctimes.com.

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?????? wrote on Jan 12, 2008 8:54 PM:Vista has a promotional brochure?

Hud developers wrote on Jan 12, 2008 10:03 PM:Have to sign a contract for X numbers of years. When the time limit is up, the Hud Developer may renew the contract, OR start charging whatever they want for rent.

Hey Elitist City Planners... wrote on Jan 12, 2008 11:12 PM:You know who else lives in Orange Grove? There's Rick, the navy vet, who is completely blind and lives off Social Security. There are also Mike and Doris, two formerly homeless people, who finally have a roof over their heads. Doris is on dialysis while Mike just got laid off from his job at a local factory. Then there's Debbie and her two teen age boys she's raising alone. Debbie works for the VUSD in the lunch room. The trailer park holds alot of nice, hard-working people. I know its not much to look at and doesn't fit into Vista's future plans (white suburban tract housing but its home to some great folks. Leave it alone.

Randy wrote on Jan 13, 2008 7:16 AM:It's past time that Oceanside take a long, hard look at its trailer parks. The rent control ordinance helped residents in the short run. But in the long run, the ordinance is not fair to mobile home park owners. It is time to begin to create a mechanism that will return us to rents regulated by the free market.

When wrote on Jan 13, 2008 8:30 AM:will the vista city council stop. They kicked everyone out of the trailer park on Vista Way that was next door to the adobe they wasted all that money on. Now the place is crack alley. There are used condoms, empty alcohol containers and trash everywhere. The city took it over and does nothing to maintain it or clean it up. At least when it was a trailer park it was clean.

Bo wrote on Jan 13, 2008 11:29 AM:This property sounds prime for a community clean-up. Maybe local churches can gather a volunteer army to clean, repair, paint, and plant? I've got a truck and some tools, I bet it wouldn't be too hard to find dozens more that would donate a weekend or two.

Vista Watchdog wrote on Jan 13, 2008 11:48 AM:Bo has the right idea. The problem with "low income housing" is that most people would treat it no different than what you find in the trailer park. Give it about 5 to 10 years and you have another slum. But, if you take time to help the people where they currently are, and provide them with the appropriate incentives (positive incentives as opposed to negative) to keep their surroundings clean and neat, you will find that most people really do desire to have a nice place to hang their hat and call home. Maybe you can go to FEMA and get them to donate a bunch of those excess Katrina trailers to replace the old ones that people at Orange Grove are currently using?

Vista Watchdog to City of Vista wrote on Jan 13, 2008 11:52 AM:Make ceratin you have your plan fully in place and fully funded before you do anything. Your history on trailer park renovation is pretty dismal.

Tell me when.... wrote on Jan 13, 2008 12:50 PM:just say when and I'll be glad to pitch in at Orange Grove. Mostly good folks living there.

Bo wrote on Jan 13, 2008 12:59 PM:If you recall a couple years back, there was a massive effort just like you describe to clean up the Townsite area. That place went downhill fast. Maybe they can get those volunteer cops to patrol that area instead of driving around trying to find cars to place parking tickets on all the time. Oh, what am I thinking. How will the city of Vista afford all those expensive and frivolous art projects if they lose that revenue?

The rich get richer wrote on Jan 13, 2008 1:04 PM:Redevelopment is a very sly way for cities to make huge amounts of tax dolars that they couldn't ever get otherwise. The income from redevelopment is huge. Do not let anyone fool you into thinking it is for the good of the people within the area. It isn't. It is the new way for cities to insure that they make additional money - regardless of the economy. If redevelopment were for the people, it would be one thing, but it just isn't. The change in the proportion of county property tax that the cities receive is shameful. It is taken from other citizens and the entire county. No wonder we cannot have a great county fire department. The big money-grab is on - redevelopment takes the lions share !.. Of course the new buildings are pretty and well planned, but all of the people in redevelopment's path are displaced and then faced with paying many times what they did for the same thing, whether it is housing or commercial or industrial. The rich get richer.

To Bo wrote on Jan 14, 2008 5:34 AM:There already is a Police substation in Townsite, on Townsite Dr. And, they have added a perminant radar speed indicater on Townsite. Yet, as you say, this area is still a slum or Barrio. There are still 100's of City codes and County Health codes violated daily. When will our city enforce its own codes and start cleaning up this area? Why should people volunteer to do a cleanup when teh City does NOTHING afterwards to keep it clean? What we really need is to CLEAN HOUSE within City Council and the City Administration!!!!

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