Talking trash still a hot topic

By: SCOTT BAIR - Staff Writer | Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:56 AM PST

SAN DIEGO -- Philip Rivers' ailing knee was a major point of discussion in a Chargers press conference on Monday.

The strained right medial collateral ligament that jeopardizes Rivers' prospects of playing in Sunday's AFC Championship Game at New England, however, was at times overshadowed by the quarterback's penchant for trash talking.

Rivers was seen talking back to fans on several occasions during a 28-24 AFC divisional round win over the Indianapolis Colts, but that's nothing new. Rivers, who did not attend Monday's press conference because of an MRI being taken on his knee, has been caught talking to opposing players on several occasions, a trend that came to a head in the regular-season finale against the Denver Broncos.

It's continued since then, forcing others to continually address Rivers' actions and the notion that the Chargers are generally a bunch of trash talkers.

"I think we're perceived as a trash-talking team, and I hate that," Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson said. "That's never been my style, to really trash talk. The only thing you can do about that to change is to just play the game and quit talking about different things. Eventually it will go away, but you have to win also.

"The problem is that if you trash talk and you lose, people say that, 'This team, all they can do is talk and they can't back it up.' I've heard that this year already."

Rivers has ignored criticism and continues to speak his mind, something few expect him to change.

"We're going to let Philip be Philip," Tomlinson said. "No one has talked to him about it, because that's the way he's always been. He's his own man, and at this point I don't think you can try to sit him down like a high school player and say, 'You shouldn't be talking like that.'"

Chargers coach Norv Turner did take certain exception to Rivers' actions in Indianapolis, where he was seen talking directly to a group of fans after the game.

"(Rivers) doesn't need to be turning around talking to some guy that has had 12 beers in the stands. He doesn't need to do that," Turner said. "But I watch the other team, too, and they make plays and they're back to back and they're jumping up and they're celebrating.

"I always say, if you're doing it as a celebration, that's great. If you're doing it in any form of being disrespectful to an opponent, then I don't think it's appropriate."

Upon further review

While Turner is no longer fuming over the controversial holding penalty called on defensive back Eric Weddle during Antonio Cromartie's second-quarter interception return that negated a touchdown against the Colts, he still was disappointed that such a dramatic effort was forever erased.

"That's one of the great plays you're ever going to make," Turner said. "Because it was in a playoff atmosphere, that thing would've been shown forever and ever. Now it comes back as a short return and a holding penalty, but it should've ended up as an interception and one of the most unbelievable returns you've ever seen."

As far as other controversial calls that went against the Chargers on Sunday, Turner chose to remain mum.

"We get a little extra money for these playoff games," Turner said, "and I'm not giving it back."

Fans flock to Chargers Park

The Chargers had a triumphant return home on Sunday night after beating the Colts. There were an estimated 8,000 fans at Chargers Park waiting to greet the players.

The mob scene was overwhelming, but appreciated by a tired, ailing Chargers team.

"It was amazing. I was shocked," Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman said. "I didn't like sitting outside waiting to get into my car for an hour, but we definitely felt the support. I think positive energy brings a positive attitude into the locker room and to the field and to winning, period. To see all those supporters out there when we got back felt good for all of us."

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Nanc wrote on Jan 15, 2008 6:24 AM:I wonder whether Merriman is going to hold a rally this year saying what he is going to do to TB???

mike wrote on Jan 15, 2008 7:03 AM:I loved LT's "I don't really trash talk" yet, "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'"

ijuly wrote on Jan 15, 2008 7:16 AM:Chargers cry and run their mouths... last year against the Pats they talked trash the whole game and when they lost, they talked some more trash about the Pats mocking Merriman's "lights out" dance.

Road2 dstny wrote on Jan 15, 2008 8:27 AM:very fortunate to be where they are. Chargers, and Colts game was ugly. Really did not matter who won, but am looking forward to the post game comments....NE 35-SD 21...

BoltDan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 8:41 AM:I hear that the Patsies are already planning their Super Bowl Parade... hmmm how things have reversed... Here we come Patsies....GO BOLTS!

Tom wrote on Jan 15, 2008 8:53 AM:Trash talking is OK as long as you WIN - look at the old Raiders, Jets with Namath, TO now that he is with a winner...etc etc. As long as they win the Bolts can talk all they want.

Bolts Fan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:03 AM:I cannot wait for the game. I'm so excited, but shoot Rivers up with whatever you gotta shoot him up with to keep him on that field.

Bob wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:10 AM:Rivers is a punk and should shut his yap. Talking trash to the Indy fans was classless. LT should take Rivers out to the woodshed.

Bobby wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:17 AM:Turner is right, he should not have to get after Rivers. Rivers was here before him. It's up to Smith to put together a Ryan Leaf film and show him like it is! Smith has already made enough high draft pic blunders,,, Sammy Davis, Kiel, Buster, Brees and yes lets not forget my personal favorite David Boston,,, A.J.'s "push year" Good thing we have Buddy Nix and his staff that have found guys like Harris, Tucker, Dielman, Gates, Parker, Wes Welker, Flash Gorden, Hart Cooper, Clary and Yes Osgood! Nix and his guy's are the ones who built this team! Their are the one's who packed their bags, left home, lived out a dam suitcase and found the players! The fans and media give Smith all the credit,,,nuts!

Steve wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:30 AM:You haters have no clue. People mock Merriman's dance all the time, and no one cares. Hell, Shawne's only complaint is "you're not doing it right". LT was frustrated about losing a playoff game and was mad that they were dancing on the field. Remember several years ago TO did that in Dallas, posing on the Star, and got clocked for it. Everyone said he was a punk, and rightfully so, so how is a Patriots player doing the same thing any different? The Chargers don't talk more than any other team, including the Patriots, but you point to a few bad moments taken out of context and suddenly they are all thugs and trash talkers.

jim wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:34 AM:River is a classless person who deserves the name Ryan Leaf Jr.

hatepatsfan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:40 AM:Hey pats fans, you don't think Brady trash talks....get real! You wanted the colts because you got Manning's number. The Chargers give you a complete package. Defense, offense and special teams. Get real, you may be home watching the Super Bowl and crying how could your precious belicheats wasted a perfect regular season. You wanted the colts because you can beat the colts, the Chargers have more to deal with from sideline to sideline. You pats fans talk more trash that Rivers, so shut up and prey the Chargers don't come in and trash you right out of Foxboro. The pats have become the easiest team to hate since the Raiders, because of your fans arssesssine arrogance.

Boltzdude wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:41 AM:Hey Road2dstny.... do you actually think there's no one better than the Pats? I feel for you dude, when they do fall, it'll be hard. And believe me it's going to happen. Just remember the old saying.. "There's always someone better, no matter how good you are". Yes, the Pats are living it high, but one day they'll fall. I would be very proud on the Chargers if it was them. And as far as the Chargers being fortuante for where they are, so are the Patsies. Or is that Pansies? Whatever.... the Chargers have a lot of talent on the team and believe me, they have the ability to beat the Pansies. Brady is having a good year but it won't last for long.

There's actually a few teams that can beat the Pansies and it was shown this year. Be careful what you say.

As far as a playoff game, the Chargers can do it as long as they keep their cool and don't get hit with a lot of penalties. As far as I see it... Bolts will win with a Nate Kaeding fieldgoal in OT from 52 yards out.

CHARGERS 17 - Pansies 14.

GO BOLTS - HIGH VOLTAGE!!!!

patrick wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:05 AM:Phillip Rivers is an overrated, punk. what has he ever done in the NFL???? I can't wait to see the Pats take it the trash talkin bolts, your season will end on Sunday around 6pm. GO PATRIOTS!!! I can't wait to see King Brady do the stupid "lights out" dance!

Sarah wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:09 AM:Boltzdude - There were actually a few teams that could beat the Pats this year and it showed? Please, do tell, who showed they could beat the Pats this year? I'm looking at 17 W's here..

whiners wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:11 AM:If LT and the Chargers ain't whinin' they ain't breathin'

Kelly wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:13 AM:Is all you Pat's fans really have to complain about is Rivers jawing at the fans in Indy, especially after your team acted like a bunch of 3 year olds last year in SD? Clean up your own house before you worry about ours! What a joke! The only highlight reels that will be a factor in this game is watching the way your players acted like they won the Superbowl last year dancing in the middle of our field. The only one taking anybody to the woodshed this weekend will be Rivers taking your washed up D out back.

Steve wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:18 AM:People comparing Rivers and Ryan Leaf is just lazy. Leaf was a head case who never won anything, Rivers is a winner (27-8 and counting) and a Pro Bowler. Please think of someone else to compare him to, or refrain.

Martin wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:19 AM:Chargers are a bunch of classless scum. All they could do was cry after the AFCCG last year about how classless the Pats were. My questions was how many Pats were arrested last year (and this year) ZERO. How many Chargers were arrested last year ? 8 (EIGHT) for everything from domestic violence to shipping components of the street drug purple drank to Texas. Yeah real classy there LT. Really utterly and totally classless thugs. But oh yeah, I forgot, mocking a dance that is disrespectful to every other team who's field he does it on is less classy than 8 players on your team being arrested.

Riversisyourdaddy wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:23 AM:... you Bostonians .... You come to a SD website to talk trash about the Chargers talking trash. Do you see the irony in this? Do you need me to define irony for you? I've always heard you were ignorant and classless, and I guess it's a reputation well earned! Have fun watching ESPN trying to explain how the Pats gave away the game this weekend, I know I will

WATCHMEGOSUCKAS wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:25 AM:NE 35 SD 20!

LaTrina wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:28 AM:Anyone notice that LT quits every time the going gets tough? He should try as hard as when the pats did the "Merriman Dance" He's a loser. Has never won anything.

Tom wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:34 AM:Trust me Riversisapunk, your team has no chance at beating the best team ever! I have heard all year long that our D is washed up and old but we are 17-0! LT is a big baby, he cried about how the KING PATS celabrated on his 50 yard line but it's okay that little boy Phillip can talk trash to anyone he wants! Your team will get blown out this week, that is a GUARANTEE!

Hey Bolts fans! wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:55 AM:It's going to be a great game, as long as Rivers and LT play. If they don't play or see limited action, then forget about it. I don't understand how Chargers fans can talk crap on this website?! I was born and raised in New England but have lived in SD for the last 7 years and am fully justified to talk on here with my fellow New England transplants. The trash/crap that is said here and in the stands is baseless and silly. All west coast sports fans should have to live in NY or Boston first to learn how to be fans. Then, if your team wins something worthwhile (not just regular season games), you can be arrogant and cocky and I'll have endure it. Until then, shut up and enjoy the game. Go Pats!

RTL wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:56 AM:Pats fans are afraid, that's why they're talking so much, that's why they wanted the Colts. They want no part of the Bolts. We've got nothing to lose going in, we lose, it's expected, Pats lose, and it's the most epic fail in the history of the league.

Revenge is a dish best served cold. What's the weather going to be like again? Enjoy the game.

Bla Bla Bla wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:58 AM:Talk all the trash you want, but the players got to play..........

Kaeding wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:01 AM:Hi Boltzdude. Yah, cause Kaeding has shown to be the second coming of Adam Vinatieri. Please stop spewing baseless idiocy. The Chargers are lucky to be where they are. You should feel proud and fortunate - not cocky. Please don't bring down the level of talk on this site - it's going to be a good game if Rivers and LT play.

Ghost of Alworth wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:03 AM:We have never won anything.....we suck! Our backup wins the game & our million dollar baby celebrates by screaming at drunken Indy fans..... No wonder the Fake LT hates him. Oh yeah, LT...that's original huh....

The Pats beat our ... in week 2 when everyone was healthy & they were short 2 of their defensive stars..... This weeks game will be more of the same...

It's too bad why cant we win one? Why cant we have a Super Bowl win? Damn I hate the Patriots.... Pats 37 US 21

tim wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:05 AM:hey boltsdud "there are a few teams that can beat the pats and it was shown this year" ?? who was that ? i mean which imaginary friend told you that ? did the pats lose a game the rest of us missed and you saw on your special boltsdude tv? a mind is terrible thing to waste dude

Zack wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:15 AM:Didn't the Chargers and Patriots already play once this year? Chargers will get beat....bad....again and all that we can hope for is Lord Favre or younger Manning to pull the upset in the Superbowl.

LilyTheDog wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:30 AM:First, I'm pretty sure everyone in New England was rooting for the Chargers to win. Our dislike of the Colts goes way beyond our dislike of the Chargers. And besides, Peyton's face at the end of a loss is simply priceless. Second, I don't have any problem with Merriman's dance, TO's stand on the star, or Rivers trash talking across the field. But Trash Talking the Fans is COMPLETELY inexcusable. Without them there is NO football. Rivers trashing the fans is right up there with Vick's double barrell finger salute, and TO giving the middle finger to the camera.

tom wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:34 AM:I can't wait to see LT treat little boy rivers like a piece-of-crap on the sidelines again. Then we get to see LT cry after the game becuase the PATS are celabrating on there 50 yard line. Look charger fans, you know your season will end this weekend; please keep telling yourself that the PATS wanted to see the colts instead of your sorry, lucky, crapy, team! KING BRADY IS THE BEST!

KCH wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:44 AM:Lilythedog, you are posting about something you apparently know nothing about. What a shock considering you are a Pats fan. The Indy fans were cheering the fact that Rivers was leaving the field with his injury, and all Rivers said was "Thank you, thank you very much, I appreciate that". Yeah, that's right up their with flipping off your own fans.
Go ahead Pats fans, whatever you need to get yourself up for the game. You sound scared to me.

lets get real wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:50 AM:Here's the thing...certain teams match up well with other teams. Chargers match up well against the Colts. Colts match up well against the Pats. Pats match up well against the Chargers. We Pats fans certainly prefer facing the Chargers. Especially since you're all dinged up. Great, great win over the Colts. But frankly, I don't see how you'll come into a cold, cold Gillette Stadium and get really anything going offensively. An arguement can be made that the second best team in the AFC the second half of the season was the Jags (not really impressed with the quality of teams you've played) and we all know how that game turned out. I mean, come on, you guys were down to the Titans at home at half time two weeks ago.

BoltDan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:54 AM:Be carefull what you wish for Patsies... the irony here will be that Patsy fans are already booking their flights to AZ... the irony here is it is on your field and we can stomp on your logo... the irony here is that your perfect record would look horrible IF beaten by the lowly BOLTS! Yeah I would be frightened too if I were a Patsy!!! Keep up the trash talk guys from Bowstan!!! Keep it up.

tom wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:58 AM:KCH, ... you say that the pats fans are scared. You played a horrible titans team that can't score points, you played the colts that always find a way to lose to crappy teams like the bolts and now you are going to see a real football team this week, and your team will look the little boys that they are! I understand that you have to convince yourself that we are scared but you know deep down your season is over on sunday! enjoy watching us on super bowl sunday becuase i will! This is great when you know your team has it in the bag, already.

River's mouth wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:58 AM:River's is getting better as a player but his mouth is getting worse. Ignore the fans and other players. Grow up and stop being a punk. Watch out you might turn into Ryan Leaf and we know what happen to him.

19-0 wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:02 PM:19-0

Keep up the good work Philip wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:09 PM:I saw the fans Rivers was jawing with & they seemed to be smiling & having a good time even though they were losing. Rivers doesn`t use any obscene language, heck he`ll use the word darn rather than damn. Rivers is smiling & having a good ol time. If Rivers really bothers you that much just look away you uptight killjoy wah wahs. Should be a great competitive game decided by 1-2 plays, it could go either way. I only wish I could afford to go. Brady get ready for a Merriman & Phillips pancake brunch

KCH wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:09 PM:Tom, if you have this one in the bag and are not scared, then why are you wasting your time posting over and over on the other team's message boards? If you really do feel that way, you are one sad individual.

Markus wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:10 PM:Bobby, either you're showing your age and you be one stubborn sonofagun, or you're just havin sum fun. You win! I give.

SEAN C. wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:17 PM:Rivers has ice running through his game time veins, he has a ton of self confidence & he enjoys the playfull bantor it seems to work for him. So I for one say keep on doing it it`s working R I V E R S ! R I V E R S !

CrylikealittlegirlLT wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:19 PM:Charger fans should be happy their team made it this far, because you won't see them in the playoff again for several years. Being a Pats' fan we see this time after time. The Pats crush a team in the playoff and they just don't recover for several years. Rams, Carolina, Philadelphia, and others. 19-0

MacRo619 wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:20 PM:As we see on this website trashtalking is part of the game with fans and with players. Philip Rivers is a young confident 2nd year starting QB. Im a Chargers fan and I didnt see anything wrong with him congratulating his Defense when they stopped the Broncos, on the other hand he should not be jawing with the fans like he did in Indy. Long Story short the AFC Championship will come down to who is the better team this Sunday not the last 17 weeks. Its a good match up and there is some rivalry.

Good work Philip? wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:24 PM:They were all having a great time sharing a laugh? Is that why the Indy fans were flipping Rivers off? Nice spin there, doctor. Rivers needs to grow up, and fast. I know the Chargers have endured years of frustration, but when they do win, they should still try to win with class. Rivers is not classy.

Tom wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:27 PM:KCH, i guess we are in the same boat becuase you keep responding to my comments. I do understand that you are jealous becuase your team has been very lucky. Think logicaly for one minute, do you really think little boy rivers and cry baby LT can go point for point with with KING BRADY & MONSTER MOSS??????? no way it can happen and no way it will happen. Just to let you know, i have already made my reservations to AZ... i know we have already won and you know we won, too!

Chacer wrote on Jan 15, 2008 12:53 PM:Hold on, did I just read LT says he doesn't trash talk?!?! What about at the end of last year's playoff game when Mr. MVP pulled a T.O and started crying saying "They had no class, just like their headcoach"?
San Diego are a bunch of goons, Merriman can't do nothing w/o the juice, and I can't wait til some D-lineman makes Philipp's lips kiss his own behind!

waaaaaaaaah wrote on Jan 15, 2008 1:16 PM:cry me a rivers..... pats fans will go back to loving the Padres this coming Monday.

Pats17_0&counting wrote on Jan 15, 2008 1:23 PM:Hey BoltDan,
no plans up here yet in Boston for a parade. the "one game at a time" philosophy seems to be working this year... and unlike the Bolts, our players leave the trash talking to their fans. Did it bother you AT ALL that the Bolts did the same thing in Indy Sunday that they b!tched about the Pats doing last year? if you can't take it, don't give it.

Boltzdude says wrote on Jan 15, 2008 1:47 PM: the Pats need to remember 2 years ago when the Chargers UPSET the 21 HOME game winning streak. Yeah that's right. UPSET their streak. Chargers 41 - Pats 17. Hmmm... I've heard that Lightning can strike twice? Never underestimate the underdog. lol

I'd love to see it and would also love to hear the words from the Pats fans afterwards. I really find it interesting the Pats fans have to come here to the Chargers website and talk your cheap trash. You're doing nothing but eating your own words. You've said nothing that amounts to nothing. When it comes to Gameday, let's see what happens. And if the Pats win, then so be it.

So tell me this Pats fans.... when are you going to get a running game? Oh wait...Laurence Maroney is suppose to be it for your pass-happy offense. Oh wait... Kevin Faulk doesn't have much for numbers either. And where would you be without Moss? Please tell me Pats. Can you win a running game? NO you cannot. A good smash mouth football game is running and passing. But then again, you can't do that. Let's PASS the ball ALL THE TIME. Let's keep passing the ball till the secondary is tired. And you call that HEADS UP, SMASH MOUTH football? HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Please! Come on Pats give me a reason you can play a running game.

CHARGER 17 - Pansies 14
HIGH VOLTAGE - GO CHARGERS!!!

JonSnow wrote on Jan 15, 2008 1:49 PM:Seems Rivers will be allowed to hang himself. Let him play linebacker...

... for the Raiders!

Flops wrote on Jan 15, 2008 1:50 PM:So none of you so-called Pats fans would react in any way to someone flipping you off after you've been injured? Whatever...at least he had the class to keep his side of it light and happy, responding with a smile and "I'm OK, I'll be back".

UUUUHHHHGGG!!! wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:07 PM:I am neither a Chargers fan or Patriots fan. I am and have always been a Broncos fan, but I can tell you this. I am rooting for the Chargers and ONLY because I hate Patriot fans. They are the most arrogant obnoxious fans around (with the exception of the Red Sox fans), OH wait, they are the same fans...PATS and SOX fans have no class at all...I can't stand them...GO CHARGERS!!!

creedo wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:08 PM:Who ... cares, its like cheating ... everyone's done it, so that makes it right, right?

To Boltzdude wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:10 PM:Dude, the Pats didn't need Maroney ... Did you see the beating they gave this season? They didn't need it against Baltimore, Philly, or the Giants and they still won those close games. What would make you think they need to run against the Chargers? Here are some stats for you: 144 and 52 - guess who had more rushing yards week 2? If you guessed the Pats - you would be CORRECT! Good luck with that! One last thing - even if you stop Moss, which the Jags did, who's next? Welker? Stallworth? Gaffney? Watson? Are there enough players on the Chargers that can cover those guys? No? Oh, shoot, I thought it was going to be a good game.

Flops wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:37 PM:You know, I think it's pretty hypocritical to sit here and hang Rivers out to dry, while basically saying it's OK for drunk fans to throw obscene gestures at him. I'm sure those people around that area that brought their kids to the game really appreciated that.

Thank you to all the TRUE Indy and NE fans out there who had the class to give San Diego credit for a tough win. We can't even get that out of most of the national media!

creole wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:44 PM:Rivers and Tomlinson need to save their trash and burn it on Sunday to keep warm. it's going to be 50 degrees colder than what they are used to... Hey tomlisnson, LT called (the real one, the one in the HOF)... he wants his name back. Now that was a real football player that could back up his trash talk.

Jaque wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:48 PM:I think the Chargers have become a terrific team & are certainly capable of pulling off an upset. I`ll be watching intently. Make us Proud Chargers!

Steve-O wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:54 PM:I really can't believe everyone is so hostel. I don't like the Pats, love the Chargers. I think they both deserve praise for there respective seasons. Everyone knows how hard it is to win in this league. Chargers have been on the outside looking in for too long. Maybe its our turn? So much anger for no good reason. Are Pats fans really that volatile? It's like Rivers said after the game. All that stands in their way, Rivers said, is "arguably one of the best teams that ever played ... Seventeen have tried and it hasn't happened yet. We believe it can happen. All you can ask for is an opportunity." Did all the Pats fans miss that one? I think it will be a close game. Chargers 34- 31 Pats

IB6UB9 wrote on Jan 15, 2008 2:58 PM:I find alot of the comments posted here to be outright funny. I guess being a Charger fan in the middle of big D allows me to see what no one else can. The NFL is determined to find out who got the best deal in the Manning/Rivers trade. How can they do that? Chargers/Giants in the SB. We'll see on Monday.

blahblah wrote on Jan 15, 2008 3:17 PM:Enough is enough. San Diego has earned their place in the playoffs, and it has been because of PR, LT, AG and the entire offensive line. Not to leave out the defensive side, enough said. Whether they win or lose, the Chargers have proven themselves a force to be reckoned with. I truly do not believe it will be a blow out as everyone may think. Bad calls can go either way, as evident in the Indy game.

Thayne wrote on Jan 15, 2008 3:20 PM:Hate Patriots, I think Norv is gonna find a way in shootout.

Jon in AZ wrote on Jan 15, 2008 3:25 PM:If it is true that the Pats are already planning their Superbowl celebration, then all I have to say is remember the Steelers Charger playoff game back in 94. The Steelers fans including the NFL media had planned them to beat our team too.
History repeats itself more often than we think.
Go Chargers!!!!!

Go Pats! wrote on Jan 15, 2008 3:49 PM:Chargers: 'This team, all they can do is talk and they can't back it up.' The difference is Brady put his money where his mouth is and backs it up!

Words of Reason wrote on Jan 15, 2008 3:53 PM:Yikes: the pats fans can put up a mighty sewer of bile, hate, venom, filth, pride, arrogance, anger, sloth and cowardice -- yeah, you Pats posters are Belichick fans, alright. What's truly sad is that you have linked your self-worth to a football team you can take no credit for. Get it through your heads, you are just fans, and dysfunctional rancid ones at that. Otherwise, when the Pats get upset (now or later) it will be crushing for you. Then you'll NEVER get a real job.

PATS AND RED SIX FANS wrote on Jan 15, 2008 3:58 PM:ARE THE SAME! YOU ARE RIGHTS! WINNING FANS! OH THAT'S RIGHTS COLTS RYMES WITH DOLTS! HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Hey word of Reason! wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:07 PM:We work hard alright! We also like to support the home team, no matter what! Sorry you can't step up! Fans support their team. That is thier job! Unlike the Charger fans I saw last year, who trash talked thier own team when they lost! Instead, the Charger fans, cried and swore and cried more! How pathetic! I am a Patriots Fan for life! God or Bad, I am Pats fam. I am a Red Sox Fan as well for life! Unlike those loosers in Dolt land who seem to go back to their ghetto ways in SD. The last time my Red Sox played the SD Padres, who I like as ball club, the Red SOx fans out numbered the Padres fans. Where the SD fams. Win or Loose we are rock solid fans! THAT IS OUR JOB! RED SOX NATION WEST! PATRIOT NATION! WE ARE EVERYWHERE!

JAMES wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:09 PM:Someone please explain to me how "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't trying? seriously.

The PATS CHEATED PERIOD. They got fined $million.

And Bellicheat has the arrogant nerve to try and insult America's intelligence and say "I misinterpreted the rules" OH REALLY?..."Genius" misinterpreted the rules. How does a genius do that. After he was warned the year before and received a FRIGGIN' memo before the Jets game. I had respect for Bill B. before and if he just came out and said yes, we did it...he'd probably get a pass but to straight up LIE AS IF EVERYONE WAS SO NAIVE TO BUY HIS CRAP...I'D LIKE TO HEAR ONE STUPID PATS FAN EXPLAIN HOW HE MIS-INTERPRETED THE RULES.....YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE HE CHEATED AND STILL TRIED TO LIE ABOUT IT!

NOW THAT'S CLASSLESS...

JUST LIKE HGH HARRISON...THE ONLY REASON HE USED HGH IS BECAUSE IT'S UNDETECTABLE...YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO GET CAUGHT THROUGH PAPERWORK OR WHAT HAVE YOU...BUT HE KNOWINGLY TRIED TO GET OVER ON EVERYONE...AND YET ANOTHER CLASSLES PATRIOT CHEATER!

james wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:11 PM:Yeah that's right Pats and Red Six fans...YOU'RE ALL THE SAME NON-FUNCTIONING ILLITERATES...SERIOUSLY GET A G.E.D.

This is crap! wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:18 PM:Shawne Merriman said. "I didn't like sitting outside waiting to get into my car for an hour... PLEASE, YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY FROM OUR CHANTING AND BUYING YOUR PRODUCTS! WE COME TO THE AIRPORT AND SUPPORT YOU! WHAT A CHUMP! ungrateful!!!!!

Not a Pats fan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:23 PM:Talking trash, pointing fingers is all part of the game. I am happy with what the Chargers have done this year. No matter what happens this weekend, I'm still proud. We are all guilty of talking trash, but Pats fans and Pats players, this year, you all have been the most cockiest and most stuck up people in the league. Play your game, be proud of what you have done and go ahead and talk your trash, but don't belittle the rest of us. YES, there have been a few games this year where the Pats should've lost. They capitalized on the other teams misfortunes, bad timing and bad calls by the refs. Baltimore had YOU. The look of horror on Belicheats face in the last few seconds where they were losing was priceless in itself. The Pats got lucky and they took advantage. They are a great team, but they are beatable. If the Chargers beat them, GREAT! It will be a good game this weekend.

scorpiodsu wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:31 PM:LT sounds dumb. I love him as a player but how can he say "we're not a trash talking team" and cry about it when the Pats served them up last year, but doesn't say anything about his own team. Rivers is a fraud. The team is very talented and the defense is great. If Rivers would have finished the game they would have lost. And not you got D-lineman talking trash too? I hate the Pats, but I hope San Diego gets their ass handed to them because they talk too much and LT is a punk for getting on other teams, but not addressing his own.

too much hype wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:31 PM:The Bolts definitely have a great chance to beat the Pats. The lame posts by some of the Pats fans make it look like they are worried, and they should be...they have had a great run but there is a reason why only one team has gone undefeated.

Rivers is playing great right now as is the entire ofense and they will definitely put up some points. The defense has a great chance to get to Brady and cause some turnovers. Bolts special teams will also come up big.

Bolts pull off big upset 31-27.

Brady wrote on Jan 15, 2008 4:33 PM:You haters, just make sure you explain to your grandchildren how you were a Patriot hater right after you get done bragging to your grandkids how you were lucky enough to see the greatest team and QB in history back in 07. Too much sun SD...

mossymo wrote on Jan 15, 2008 5:03 PM:The Chargers are on a roll! They beat a Manning who had 400 yards of offense. Thunder, Lighting...don't get caught in the storm of the Chargers!! signed... a lone S.D. fan living in Bean town surrounded by Pats fans.

Hey : Not a Pats fan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 5:15 PM:Whaaa! Do belittle us! We don't have to you guys do a good enough job of it for everyone! Biggest criminals, biggest loosers! biggest cry babies! Ha!

Jimbo wrote on Jan 15, 2008 5:22 PM:Trash talking is fine as long as it's under two conditions: 1) You can back it up and 2) It doesn't become bigger than the game. Trash talking between opponents on the field is one thing, but Rivers was stupid enough to talk back to the Indy fans. That's not leadership, that's "rabbit ears". The fool has only set himself up for more in the future.

LovethePats wrote on Jan 15, 2008 5:33 PM: I've been a Pats fan for a long time but all this trash talk is bogus. I think if the game is right, the Chargers will win. The Bolts have tremendous talent and could use it properly.

Brady won't be around forever and it'll be a sad day when he's gone. We're ALL riding good times now but we need to realize we'll go back to being a bunch of loosers. HA HA! How's that Pats fans? LOOSERS. The Chargers might come in to our House and beat the crap out of us. Literally. Then we could watch them do the Merriman dance on our logo. In fact, I hope they do just so we get a taste of our own medicine. In fact, maybe Bellicheat will finally realize that even cheating won't work. And in the near future Harrison and Seau will be long gone from injuries because they played too long and maybe, just maybe we'll have a running game by then.
HA HA HA!
I bet this really gets the bandwagoners for the Pats on a high note now! LOL

What a bunch of Pansies!
Chargers 17 - Pats 14

DaboltZ wrote on Jan 15, 2008 5:36 PM:Why do I keep seeing you pats fans using the word "King" when talking about Brady? Sounds like you guys are a part of his harem. Creepy.
Look, here's my suggestion for you pats fans on this post. Dismantle that true to scale paper mâché Brady shrine that you spent the last blizzard creating, put on your usual 16 layers of winter gear, and spend some quality time with the family shoveling snow from the driveway.
Let the teams handle the football business.

too much hype wrote on Jan 15, 2008 5:48 PM:The Pats have had a great year so far - but...It will all be a huge ZERO after sunday....The Bolts are on a roll... they knock the Pats off thier perch 31-27. I can just hear all the excuses now.

deWayne wrote on Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM:It should be a very interesting game this weekend. Yeah, the Pats have a pretty darn good chance of beating the Chargers, but wouldn't it be great if the Chargers beat them? All the Pats fans will be covered in egg.

NYGMEN wrote on Jan 15, 2008 7:04 PM:All you Bolt fans need a wake-up call.
I see where the players get it from-You've done nothing- Go and win the game and then TALK- If you win, good for you. The Pats are not afraid of Bolts,Indy,GBay,Giants- They just win Baby! Go make history, but you know it won't ever happen deep inside-You're a 14pt underDOG for a reason. I HOPE my guys beat GB, then put on a good show @ SuperBowl, but I'm not counting on it. I'm realistic, but you Bolt fans are Delirious!

PAL52 wrote on Jan 15, 2008 7:50 PM:Wow, Bobby. How stupid are you? ``High draft pic blunders'' for AJ? Merriman, Castillo, Rivers, Cromartie, and now Vince Jackson is showing up
As for all the Pat fans getting high and mighty about talking trash and backing it up -- you haven't won the Super Bowl yet, either, so be careful.

The #1 Pats fan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 8:51 PM:As a NE native I feel I have the right to admit that our team and fans are a bunch of cheating, whinning, pompous in-breds. I hope the Chargers win, just to put us in our place. In fact I hate this place, it's too damn cold. I'm going to move to SD were the sun is always shining and the weather is sweet.

Rockn4u wrote on Jan 15, 2008 8:52 PM:No need for any of this, whether you like the Patriots or not, we all know the outcome of this weekends game. Unless Tom Brady doesn't show up, then the spread will go to pats -10 (lol)

"Ladies & Gentlemen I introduce to you our Plastic Surgeon for today's game against the chargers Tom Brady"

Chargers already know deep down in the bowels of there souls there season will come to an end this Saturday in Foxboro. And hopefully Rivers will go through Puberty this off season!

PATS x 4 End Of Story!

Seacrest out~~

Screaming for vengeance wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:45 PM:Rivers steps up & throws 3 TDs, LT gets 1 & Kaeding nails a 38yd FG While Brady throws 3 TDs & their kicker goes 1 for 2. Bolt Band wagon exits Foxboro & heads to Arizona. Its a cruel world, deal with it

BUFFDADDY wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:51 PM:The charger fans are soft pathetic and cry all the time just like rivers and LT. I hope the pats smack them good with a backhand. Get used to losing charger fans. Lets face it, the only reason your in the playoffs is because you are in the weakest division in football.

BUFFDADDY wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:54 PM:The #1 Pats fan, Yeah your a weak little charger fan hiding behind a post. Even cromartie called all the fans at the airport bandwagoners!

Pops wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:03 PM:Pats fans criticizing the chargers for their propensity to talk is not absurd. In a way the Chargers are hypocritical. They talk a lot and when the Patriots celebrated after the game they had their panties in a bunch. Also, anyone talking about Rodney and his use of HGH has to remeber that Shawne Merriman was suspended for using performance enhancing drugs too.

Titletown21 wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:04 PM:Hey bolts fans the chargers dont have a chance in hell this sunday.. bradys 7-0 in foxboro in the playoffs and were 17-0 this year.. u cant defend all our weapons and if u dont score in the high 30's this wont even be a game.. the only way u can win is if the pats oversleep this game lol..enjoy watchin lt and rivers cry after.. i know i will final 38 21 R.i.P. BOLTS

The #1 Pats fan wrote on Jan 15, 2008 11:27 PM:Buffdaddy,
Nothing gets past you captian obvious. Nice name by the way.

Charger_fan_for_25yrs wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:43 AM:I read all these posts and to be honest I was a little upset at all the trash that was said on both sides. I respect both teams for all they accomplished here and this game will be close just like last week. The Chargers will NOT be blown out like all you Pat's fans want to believe. They MIGHT lose, but I have faith in my team that they WILL win, but either way it will be close.
As for everyone trashing players for their talk, just remember: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
The comment about Merriman not liking having to wait an hour to get to his car; you left out the rest. "to see all those supporters out there when we got back felt good for all of us"
Thanks Shawne and the rest of the team for playing a great game!
And those of you who talk about Harrison and Seau just remember, they used to be Chargers.
This is a game between 2 very good teams who both have earned the right to be here. If NE wins I will take my ribbing from my friends just as they will have to take it from me when SD wins:)
My prediction SD 27 NE 24
GO BOLTS!!!

fishlips723 wrote on Jan 16, 2008 4:35 AM:Do you think Rivers is smart enough to realize that Tomlinson just called him an immature high schooler?Probabley not!!
You would think for a bunch of players(heck the whole franchise)that HAVE NEVER won anything,they would keep their mouth shot.Can someone put some common sense in their steroid shot next time.
You guys are so pathetic that I may have to root for the other team ... this week

Kelly G wrote on Jan 16, 2008 6:38 AM:Why are any of you trash talking? The Charges have earned the right to be in the AFC Championship and so have the Pats. "Any team can win on any given Sunday" that's why they play the game. Both fan camps should be proud and want their team to win. It's going to be a great game, and I can't wait to see it. GO PATS! Why not spend more time talking about why you think your team will win vs insulting each other, it's ridiculous to behave like this. Try to be more positive isn't there enough uglyness in the world. I logged on thinking I was going to read about the strengths and weakness fans think each team has, I never imaged I would be reading all this trash.

PatsFansAreCocky wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:38 AM:Looking for biggest upset in NFL history.

Patriots fans will eat Crow-marti on their cocky road to the end of their season.

OneSorryBostonian wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:41 AM:I apologize for our behavior. We have ... envy of everyone else since we live in a little hole in the wall and are always in the shadow of the great city of NY. We feel castrated. But, we do have clam chowder and when we get drunk enough our ....


GO CHARGERS!!! Love for the Bolts From NYC Baby!!!!

SDbytesIT wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:54 AM:Its so cute that SD thinks it can win. The SD walking wounded are going to love it here .. 8 degrees, wind whipping, wind chill at 20 below. Your stressed tendons and turf toes will feel great. NE vs GreenBay in the bowl and the SD trash talking, dancing doormats can slink back home

tom wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:05 AM:Hey, PatsFansAreGREAT! please do yourself a favor and get a clue, your team with little boy rivers has no chance at winning this game on sunday! I am glad you are making yourself feel good by telling yourself this will be the biggest upset in NFL history! You are right when you bring up the word history, we will be making it when we go 19-0, KING BRADY WILL GET IT DONE, GO PATS!!!!

Flops wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:58 AM:Actually SDBytes, those weather conditions will even up the field more than you think...Brady, as good as he is, will not want to throw high risk passes in the wind. San Diego's running game is much stronger than NE's. So bring on the weather!!!

49ers rule!! wrote on Jan 16, 2008 9:13 AM:ive always been a 49ers fan and u can see how great their season has been :( but personally i think that the patroits are the biggest babies of the game. they have no rushing game and without brady their screwed. SCREW U PATIES!!GO BOLTS!!!

BoltDan wrote on Jan 16, 2008 9:33 AM:Patsies keep talking about us crying but who was the idiots dancing on the field last year after a win mocking other players??? hmmm!!! I seem to remember you rclassless team doing that. Oh I know Brady distanced himself from thos idiots doing those things but you see why we want redemtion... 28-14 BOLTS BABY...

Plus your coach is a cheater and got a slap on the wrist...NICE NFL. What message are you sending?

Boston wrote on Jan 16, 2008 10:41 AM:Congrats to all the SD fans!! I have read some of the posts, I was curious is to how the SD fans were approaching this game on Sunday. You should all be proud of how far your team has gone.

Though you should also respect the Patriots and what they have accomplished not only this year but in the last 7 years!

Pats fans are not cocky, we are confident because we know football. We are very loyal fans and very knowledgable. Anything can happen in the NFL on any given Sunday, but unfortuantley this Sunday will be no different then any other Sunday this season. Yes, we do hate the Chargers, because they are young and talk to much garbage instead of playing football they create celebration dances so they get on TV...I compare this group of punks to the Ravens. You will be number 18 after Sunday! The Pats are on a mission and they are two games away from completing that! 15 degree's and loud crazy fans for Sunday....enjoy the pre game hype, it will be over by halftime!!

lucy wrote on Jan 16, 2008 11:53 AM:sd...thanks for beating the COLTS!! I Don't mind saying I wasn't looking forward to that match-up...although you guys made them look pretty impotent. I hate the Pats fans that are boasting about alresdy having tickets for the SB...what a bad, bad omen. I love the pats but my hat is off to you SD for a great comeback season....see you on sunday. PATS 34
CHARGERS 21

PatsFansAreCocky wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:03 PM:Don't confuse confidence from cockiness.

The problem is that you have no clue about the game of football if you're trying to argue that the chargers are NOT good. To act like the patriots have NO chance of losing at all is crazy, and COCKY.

The patriots are VERY good. I have a lot of respect for that team. However, they are 1 dimentional. In my opinion a 1 dimentional offense should not ever be considered the best team in football.

Do some research on what the Charger team HAS accomplished, actually. No, its not 18-0, but the only thing ever talked about on the Pats is Brady and Moss. Well i hope they show up to play this week.

Good luck to both teams. I still look for the biggest upset in NFL history. The chargers are no stranger to adverstity.



TimWSC wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:41 PM:The Patriots will unleash in this one.
Mark this on your calendar:
Patrios will score over 50 points.

GoChargers wrote on Jan 16, 2008 1:35 PM:Don't be a Charger hater. The Chargers have earned the right to be in the AFC championship. I hope we win on Sunday but if we don't, I'm still proud to be a Charger fan! We are up against a team that hasn't lost so there's no pressure on our side to win just the belief that we can win. Go Chargers! Give it your best shot!!! Bring down the Patriots!!!!

Tom wrote on Jan 16, 2008 1:38 PM:Wow, PatsFansAreCocky, you need to take off your charger's glasses and realize little boy rivers will fold up in the 1st quarter of that game! Your team is done, you have no chance of winning this game, and please when you do lose, don't use the injuries as an excuse! I already got my reservations to AZ! give me your address and i will send you a post card! enjoy watching the PATS win the super bowl this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bob wrote on Jan 16, 2008 4:15 PM:calling the pats patsies is so stupid and only shows the maybe it's true our chargers fans are either stupid or clueless about football.i only hope we reach there level.

krispy wrote on Jan 16, 2008 4:43 PM:Goodness I can't believe what I am reading. Chill out people!! First of all don't talk smack about LT. He does alot for our community as well as alot of our other players. He is a good person!! Yes Phil gets a little excited but he has a lot of talent and he is young. He will learn in time. But for now he plays great football. As for you Pats fans, I think all of the credit should go to the offensive line. If it weren't for them Brady couldn't do what he can do. Shoot any quarterback can be successful if he has a great offense blocking. Yes the Pats are a good team but you have to be honest with yourselves that they have had some lucky wins this season as well. Let's just let the guys play and quit acting like a bunch of 3 year olds. If Chargers win Sunday, super for us but if Pats win well we will accept defeat gracefully until next season because we love our Chargers and we have had a great season and no one can take that away from us no matter how classless you say we are. Go Chargers!!!!!!!

bobisright!! wrote on Jan 16, 2008 5:20 PM:Kudo's to you Bob! Hit the nail on the head. Charger fans are mostly new to even following football, let alone winning games. They are the most ignorant of all the 32 teams fans. I feel like I'm in the BlackHole now when I go to the stadium. Please SD, Try and stay classy San Diego.
Just try...

MIke in Maine wrote on Jan 16, 2008 6:37 PM: A lot of talk here about the classlessness of players, how about organizations?

Remember in the divisional game last year in SD when tickets were only being sold to people who lived in the San Diego area!!!!

Talk about classless, it's not just your players, it's the WHOLE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.

humble pie wrote on Jan 17, 2008 4:35 AM:Every year people waste so much time downing the Pats..Jeoulous i think the correct word is..the Pats are that good despite all the scandles which happens with all teams..people like to think its only the Pats..GET REAL..this is football..one of the toughest hard hitting sports out there..stop your babyass wining and suck it up..at least the real players are on the field..if they played football like you people wine we'd all skipping through the daisies singing..come on people..i love the competition..the celebrations after the touchdowns..its a sport..stop wining or I'll have to call the "Wambulance" GO PATS..

BoltDan wrote on Jan 17, 2008 9:59 AM:It is WHINE... and you guys will be whining about something when we beat you... (just my prediction not a brag)... BUt back to cheating... you either did or didn't!!! It is like being pregnant. SO you did! and yet you all still make an excuse that everyone does it!!! Hmmmm I haven't taken logic in a few years is that called the "Red Herring" defense? OR???? anyway it is an excuse and your winning ways will be like Bonds...Marked with an asterick*******

GO BOLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GoChargers wrote on Jan 17, 2008 4:18 PM:bobisright!! don't come to SD or our stadium if it sucks so bad. Don't trash our city and our fans and still live in our city. Move back to where you come from if it's so classy there!

Charger Fan 1 wrote on Jan 17, 2008 9:28 PM:I didn't really appreciate Cromarties remark about all of us just getting on the "bandwagon." Well my friend if being on the band wagon means being around in the, air Coryell and Dan Fouts and the bruise brothers days then I guess alot of us are on the "bandwagon" but you see you were not even born so I wouldn't disrespect your fans with things you know nothing about. Just because in the years your team is not doing too well and we are more quiet doesn't mean we are not behind the SD Chargers. Yes Cromartie is an excellent player but what "bandwagon" is he getting on when higher offers come in for his playing.
GO CHARGERS beat the NE cheaters.

Who gives a crap! wrote on Jan 18, 2008 8:53 AM:I don't care who says what to whom, this is football, just play the game.
It's a physical and emotional sport and things are going to be said, players will get angry and shove each other etc...whatever. Someone calls you a name, man-up and get over it! Who cares. Trash will be said and ALL TEAMS TRASH TALK. I don't think I know of 1 team that hasn't said a swear word or talked trash to an opposing team at least once.

Pats Gal in SD wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:59 PM:So, after all your trash talk of Patriots being Patsies, Pansies, Cheaters, Classless, Pompous and oh so many more brilliant assessments, guess what? GAME OVER. Thanks for playing. Hey, LT! Way to support your team by cheering them on from the sidelines. No, wait, you just sat there motionless with your tear shield down so we couldn't see you crying. You'd think by now that you would have learned how to lose....

Go Giants!!! wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:37 AM:I hate the Giants but I hope they'll beat the Patriots just because I hate the Patriots' fans more.

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