Governor's cuts could hurt county, residents
By: GIG CONAUGHTON - Staff Writer
Officials say public safety, health, social programs could be hit | ∞
NORTH COUNTY -- Cash cuts for foster families. Thousands of released prisoners hitting San Diego County streets. Taxpayers having to foot the bill for the estimated $11 million Feb. 5 presidential primary election. And looming funding cuts for untold dozens of health and social programs.
County officials said they're still trying to determine what programs would be hurt by the "across the board" budget cuts Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger proposed last week to deal with the state's $14.5 billion debt.
But they said they're worried. County managers must use Schwarzenegger's proposals to create a 2008-09 draft budget to present to supervisors in May.
County Chief Financial Officer Don Steuer said public safety is a big concern -- particularly Schwarzenegger's proposal to give early release to thousands of state convicts to reduce overcrowded prisons. Steuer and other county officials said released prisoners could commit crimes here, hurting people and property, and increasing what taxpayers must spend to arrest, book, jail and prosecute them.
Harold Tuck, general manager of the county's public safety group, said about 8 percent of the 22,000 prisoners who could be freed could head to San Diego County.
"The state prison system has a 70 percent recidivism rate," he said. "If we were to use an extremely conservative number and say 30 percent ... that's 500 new arrests here."
Terry Hogan, finance director for the county's Health and Human Services Department, said she was particularly concerned about Schwarzenegger cuts that could throw families off welfare rolls if they fail to find work -- and cuts what the county pays to foster families and homes.
Ironically, Hogan said, the state increased funding for foster families in 2007 for the first time in several years, but Schwarzenegger's proposed budget cuts would not only erase the 2007 hike, but leave families with less aid than they were getting before the increases.
"Talk about people who are doing such a significant service for the community. This is just a real kick in the teeth for those families," Hogan said.
Old struggle
The county, which had a $4.7 billion budget in 2007, manages billions of dollars' worth of state programs. This wouldn't be the first time the county had to cut services because of state debt.
The county governs unincorporated communities, not cities. But it runs programs that touch nearly all county residents -- from collecting property taxes to running probation services and elections, overseeing the Sheriff's Department, running parks and libraries, managing child support, public health services and overseeing regional disaster preparedness.
In 2004, supervisors approved deep cuts after Schwarzenegger and the state borrowed $2.6 million from governments.
Supervisors laid off 45 workers and eliminated hundreds of vacant positions. They cut funding for children's mental health programs, the department that chases down deadbeat parents for child support; road resurfacing; probation services; drug-rehabilitation programs; code enforcement; and a host of other services.
But the cuts Schwarzenegger now proposes could be more drastic. That's because the 2004 state cuts hit the smaller portion of county funds. Schwarzenegger is now aiming cuts at the larger portion.
One quarter of the county's $4.7 billion annual budget is general purpose money that supervisors get to spend as they see fit -- historically on public safety such as the Sheriff's Department, district attorney and medical examiner's offices.
The other three-quarters of the budget is state and federal money that the county must "pass through" -- that is, spend directly on specific mandated health and social services.
Voters in 2005 approved Proposition 1A, making it impossible for the governor and Legislature to "raid" county and cities' spending money unless Sacramento lawmakers declare a fiscal emergency.
Schwarzenegger is now recommending across-the-board cuts for health and social programs -- as well as state departments running the gamut from prisons to education, transportation and reimbursement for Medi-Cal, the state's health insurance for the poor.
Still evolving
County managers and other officials said Tuesday that Schwarzenegger's proposals represent a first step in lengthy negotiations between the Republican governor and the Democrat-heavy Legislature before a real state budget, and cutbacks, are approved.
"This is the opening waltz; there's a lot of dancing to be done yet," said Paul McIntosh, executive director of the California Association of Counties.
But potential cutbacks could be widespread if Schwarzenegger's proposals are embraced.
It takes nine pages to list the programs the county's Health and Human Services Department offers to residents. They include substance abuse rehabilitation, child abuse hotlines, disaster communication loops for doctors and emergency personnel, mental health programs for children and adults, and services that help expectant mothers and the elderly. Almost all could be part of state "10 percent across the board" cutbacks, if approved.
In addition to cutting programs, Schwarzenegger has also proposed the state delay hundreds of millions of dollars in payments due counties.
McIntosh said Los Angeles County officials are worried about Schwarzenegger's proposal to delay paying gas-tax money for five months. Counties use the funds to maintain county roads.
McIntosh said some counties may not be able to come up with cash to keep public works crews employed and fixing roads. He said those counties face cutting services or borrowing money and spending additional funds in interest rates.
Steuer said San Diego County hoped to be able to borrow cash from other county programs temporarily to keep all departments working smoothly.
Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that San Diego County supervisors will be inclined to use county reserves or the general-purpose portion of county revenues to make up for the state's cuts.
Supervisors have long maintained that the reason the state is in debt is because it spends money even when it doesn't have revenues to pay for programs. The county board has said it would not do that.
"The problem with the state is they're broken, and they refuse to fix themselves," said Supervisor Pam Slater-Price. "We would run out of money so fast if we backfilled these programs."
-- Contact staff writer Gig Conaughton at (760) 739-6696 or gconaughton@nctimes.com.
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Lisa wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:18 PM:All these cuts will hurt RESIDENTS, but won't affect illegal intruders. Any legal residents see a problem here? It's atrocious!
sickofgreed wrote on Jan 15, 2008 10:11 PM:I have lost enough confidence in the U.S. to have put a substantial sum in multi-currency CDs, comprised chiefly of Scandinavian countries and Euros. Sure they may be socialists, but their economies are backed by oil, natural gas, and manufacturing. The governments carry current-account surpluses and their citizens are the happiest and most educated in the world. I am afraid America has squandered its wealth and accumulated massive deficits that will eventually destroy the economy and society. Millions of baby boomers will soon be standing in line to collect social security checks from a bankrupt government that has no intention on keeping its promise to the people, but always has enough to funnel trillions of dollars to defense contractors to create bomb craters in the sands of Iraq. Just a small fraction is returned as benefits in the form of education, healthcare and infrastructure to the people who pay the taxes and make America economically strong. While the foundations of our nation crack , our corrupt and delusional leaders push us into the abyss.
DreSide wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:59 AM:I agree with SickOfGreed, Why is it we can always find money for bombs and none for education or healthcare. It never fails to stun me how Americans will so often vote against their own self interest. I also find it funny that on every post there are people blaming illegals for everything from lost car keys to long lines at the urinals of stadiums. I'm sure they make an impact on the economy, but it's a pittance compared to the mismanagement and poor allocation of funds. It's also scary when we start looking to Arkansas for answers to our budget woes. We have a GDP larger than all but a handful of nations and we're looking to the bastion of forward thinking in economic policy that is Arkansas.(Shakes head sadly).....
spend away wrote on Jan 16, 2008 4:22 AM:It is time to stop spending what you don't have and stop spending on things you don't need. Until the state legislature figures this out, this problem will be there for generations to come.
True American wrote on Jan 16, 2008 5:20 AM:Wow- I am pleased to hear that smart true Americans like "Sickofgreed" exist. It’s refreshing to hear the truth instead of the “give me more comments” from the 95% of the fat lazy government dependent complacent ticks that have no common sense and no accountability. I agree-This country is in a tail spin. Learn about and vote for Ron Paul-The only hope for America.
casino operative wrote on Jan 16, 2008 5:44 AM:it is ironic that the terminator gov is telling the people there is a huge deficit cutting back the very programs the political ads for indian gaming's propositions 93,94,95,96 are on the ballot. how nice that the indian casinos are going to give more of their money to the state for more slots to take your money (senior retirees) to help with the very programs the gov is getting publicity to cut.
Enough wrote on Jan 16, 2008 6:48 AM:Schwarzenegger has failed us. Our state legislators have continually failed us. Time to recall Schwarzenegger and vote out our those legislators that have not stopped runaway spending. Vote no on 93 to insure those crooks in the legislature do not continue to rob us taxpayers.
We must stop spending our hard earned tax dollars on Illegal aliens, they must be stopped at the border and those in our state need to return and enter our country legally.
Oh well - wishful thinking.
jvc wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:06 AM:The title to this story is interesting, Governor's cuts could
hurt county, residents.
The governor is not responsible for cuts that come from our lack of support of our government by refusing to properly support it with a proper tax base!we we gave our entire paycheck to the government, we would still not be giving enough for all the services we get from our government!
So much for our conservative era that promotes the demand that we refrain at all costs from properly funding a so called big
government!Reagan is still alive and well in our thinking!
LOL wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:55 AM:No one MAKES you gamble.. just like no one FORCES for people to breed or criminals to commit crimes. Its time we taxpayers stopped subsidizing problems that are the DIRECT RESULT of bad life choices. Im happy these funding cuts are going to kill all these social programs. Maybe some of these people will te jobs or stop having babies they cant afford. Maybe the police will start helping to enforce immigration laws since we all know (and some just wont say) that the majority of crimes in SD county are a direct or indirect result of immigration.
greeneyes wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:09 AM:Bring back jobs from over-seas. Get rid of big drug companies and HMOs.
Karl wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:12 AM:I wonder how many of these cuts are real cuts as opposed to cuts in cola increases.
I agree cuts wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:28 AM:have to start with any benefits or services that cater to illegal aliens. They want freebies go to Arizonia!
Hey is April 15th wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:29 AM:when the Gov wants our taxes to pay for illegal aliens??? Hell no we won't pay!
Bryan wrote on Jan 16, 2008 8:41 AM:Arnold is nothing more than a tax/bond measure liberal. He is coming out with billions in new bond measures that our grandkids will have to pay for. The guy is a joke.
Steve wrote on Jan 16, 2008 9:14 AM:Where's the Indian Casino money? Wasn't it supposed to be 9 Billion???
Illegal Citizens wrote on Jan 16, 2008 10:06 AM:Stop making residents of California illegals. Legalize and tax marijuana. It is the right thing to do for our citizens and our state's budget. It's the state's biggest cash crop and the morally elite can't keep busting people if they can't afford keep 'em in jail.
John E wrote on Jan 16, 2008 10:07 AM:California's fiscal problem is quite simple -- our income, mostly from income tax, is highly variable, whereas our expenses, mostly social entitlements, are fixed. As a state, we need the discipline to accumulate a healthy budget surplus when times are good, so that we will have ample reserves to see us through the off years. Unfortunately, many programs are based on use-it-or-lose-it budgeting.
I love it wrote on Jan 16, 2008 10:10 AM:We pay to educate, medicate, feed and house millions of people in this country illegally and the politicians can't figure out how to balance the budget.
Tom wrote on Jan 16, 2008 10:28 AM:This all wouldn't have to take place if Sacramento had been less selfish. It is time to boot these legislators out of office. Arnie, you are wrong and crooked to support Prop 93. You know that will keep the crooks in office that much longer. Who do you think thought up Prop 93? The same crooked politicians that got California in this bind to begin with. No on 93, don't let them fool you anymore.
To Dreside wrote on Jan 16, 2008 10:56 AM:First education is over half the budget and what do we get, ignorant kids because we have to teach down to non English speakers. Bombs and guns are exactly what let you speak your mind without being sent to prison or worse. The problem is the legislature spends money like there is no end. Then when it catches up they throw all kinds of scare tactics. I didn't hear them cutting their salaries. I didn't hear cut their staff, no it is all on the taxpayers back. If they were in private business and ran a deficit up like this they would be fired. But no, we keep electing them.
Time for a turnover of all elected politicians. Also vote no on 93, look what experience has gotten us as well as if it passes two of the biggest crooks stay in office.
make up your mind wrote on Jan 16, 2008 11:10 AM:Half the people on here are complaining about the Gov spending too much money, and the other half are complaining that he doesn't spend enough. He is trying to control spending despite the liberal "lets buy everyone a car" legislators in Sacramento fighting every proposal he makes. Teachers and police unions tie his hands so he cannot make the changes to state finances he promised. What a thankless job.
Also, the article should point out that early release prisoners will all be non-violent offenders (white collar, drug possession, etc). The NCT needs to stop trying to scare the public with misleading headlines.
What can we do? wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:25 PM:1. Most of the money California spends on illegal aliens and their children is federally mandated (e.g. education, heath care). Vote FOR a presidentital candidate who will produce noticable results in border and workplace enforcement (prevention of illegal immigration) BEFORE opening the path to citizenship to illegal aliens (rewarding and encouraging illegal immigration). The fewer new illegal aliens, the less California will need to spend going forward.
2. Vote NO on Prop. 93; it is a smokescreen to allow the same crooks who run the legislature and whose terms are up this year to remain in office a few years longer and overspend our tax dollars that much longer.
To DreSide wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:34 PM:California spends $10,000 per year to educate one child. The illegal alien population is exploding in California. Do the math. It is much more than a pittance.
Concerned-1 wrote on Jan 16, 2008 1:04 PM:The crux of our problem is in Sacramento. Our legislators have continually sold us out to special interests including the teacher's union, who have ruined our educational system by filling our schools with non-English speaking students to make their precious Average Daily Attendance quota. It is a vicious circle that will keep spiraling downward until it hits bottom, which is California as a third world country.
Concerned-1 wrote on Jan 16, 2008 1:12 PM:On a more positive note, we can all vote no on Prop 93. This will let the crooks in Sacramento know we are not all asleep and that we don't believe everything they try to ram down our throats. Then we need to re-district this state so that new blood pours into the legislature. This is critical for change. Then we need to elect some law and order officials who aren't afraid of making tough decisions. Get tough on employers of illegals. Make them pay for services such as schools and medical. Put up tent-city jails. Revise pension plans for school and government retirees. Cut government. Cut government and cut government!
Concerned-1 wrote on Jan 16, 2008 2:11 PM:The crux of our problem is in Sacramento. Our legislators have continually sold us out to special interests including the teacher's union, who have ruined our educational system by filling our schools with non-English speaking students to make their precious Average Daily Attendance quota. It is a vicious circle that will keep spiraling downward until it hits bottom, which is California as a third world country.
Ya Right wrote on Jan 16, 2008 2:37 PM:Hit foster kids, fire departments, and put convicted criminals back on the streets. Time for CA to have a revolution.
these wrote on Jan 16, 2008 2:58 PM:illegal aliens you speak of... provide you with cheaper food. these illegal aliens you speak of, pay taxes (not all of them i know, but a good majority do). these illegal aliens, DON'T get tax returns, so all the taxes that get taken from them they don't get a cent back (which i understand). instead of blaming the illegal aliens, blame the government. they are sending jobs overseas anyway, hundreds of thousands of them. blame stores like walmart that do the same. the government doesn't crack down on employers that hire them. if there were no jobs for them, they wouldnt' be here! but they do get the jobs. they're trying to give their kids a better chance, some kids that are even born here, and so are entitled to an education (especially since their parents probably pay taxes anyway). instead of having some sympathy, you're all mad that you're stuck with a home worth 400,000 rather than one with 5 or 600,000. they aren't to blame for everything. educate yourselves. look at all the statistics, but don't look them up on a right or even a left wing website that will likely twist them in their direction. quit using these unfortunate people as your scapegoats for everything and have some compassion for the suffering. realize that we're all born with some kind of advantage and privilege. not a single one of us is where we are today by our hard work alone.
to these wrote on Jan 16, 2008 3:35 PM:Illegals provide us cheaper food - same argument used to keep slavery intact. You must be proud of yourself.
Patriot wrote on Jan 16, 2008 4:35 PM:That 2:58PM post used the same tired, worn-out arguments the pro-illegal alien lobbyists use. Yes, unfortunately by our courts taking the 14th Amendment out of context, each child born in the U.S. to an illegal alien is "entitled" to a public education (not to mention health care and other public services and assistance). In California, each child's public education costs about $10K/year, an expense that the child's parents' state and local taxes will never come close to covering. If we could count up all the illegal aliens and children of illegal aliens in our California schools and multiply that figure by $10K, the result would be staggering. Sure, the illegal alien isn't the scapegoat for all of our problems, but with education alone being half of the state budget, the cost cannot be ignored.
Tine wrote on Jan 16, 2008 6:00 PM:The cuts will hurt the poor and the undocumented, because they have the most to lose when the public trough gets empty
In all honesty... wrote on Jan 16, 2008 6:07 PM:It wouldn't be in the best financial interest of the "giants" to deport illegals...they make too much money keeping them here. As much as I like shorter lines and less traffic...you're attention is on the wrong party.
$10,000 per child?? wrote on Jan 16, 2008 6:45 PM:My kids definitely are not getting a $10,000 a year education. That is a joke. Where is the money going?
To Patriot wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:33 PM:Obviously you have not read the California Constitution that provides for a free education. If we changed the CA Constitution and CHARGED each student/parent for their education, a lot of problems could be solved. Illegal aliens wouldn't come to California if the education actually had to be paid for. If Californian's actually had a huge cut in state taxes, the equivalent of a voucher, a privatized alternative educational system would appear, and compete with the substandard one we currently have. It's time to turn back the socialism tide of the past few decades.
BTW, the 2007 budget allocated about $8500 per student.
Your money wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:40 PM:is going to the California Teachers Union who has shackled the state with high wages, the best teacher benefits in the nation, and a guaranteed share of the annual budget.
If you want to be sick, check out past media articles about California school administrators huge pension giveaways.
Karl wrote on Jan 16, 2008 7:50 PM:Colas, any response here? "cost of living allowance". When the government says "cut" it means a lower increase. Any comments?
to 10000 per child wrote on Jan 16, 2008 9:01 PM:its 10000 from kinder to senior year so chill alright
Go back to school wrote on Jan 16, 2008 11:29 PM:to find out that California spent a total of $66B last year on 6,000,000 students, resulting in an overall expenditure of just under $12,000 per student.
see http://gov.ca.gov/issue/specifics/2008-09-budget-k-12-education1
so, in today's dollars, each student will cost the state over $143,000 for their K-12 education. This does not include the partially subsidized state colleges.
This is a great deal for people with children. Having children should not be a cost free choice (free schooling, free medical, citizenship, etc). Only in the USA.
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