Are The ACLU Racists Too? wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:05 PM:Is not now the time for the 'Border Angels' and 'El Grupo' to call the ACLU racists, bigots, etc. Maybe they can show up at the courthouse with their bullhorns and disrupt the trial by shouting racist at the judge, Pete Wilson, and anyone else who aids and abets Americans agains illegal immigration, such as the minutemen.

America Will Win this One! wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:58 AM:And La Raza will lose. Again, they have overplayed their hand and scared Caltrans into "bringing down the sign" as Enrique said would happen 3 weeks ago. The Mexican Governement thinks they own California, but they underestimate the resolve of US Citizens who have had enough of the demands for amnesty and the mexican flag waving in our streets. No way, Jose!

Marcos wrote on Feb 2, 2008 1:12 AM:"We just don't think it is a safe location," Caltrans spokesman Steve Saville said Friday afternoon. "There's so much activity going on there that to throw another litter crew in the mix is a recipe for something bad to happen."

What? Too much activity? What a bunch of garbage! In that case than I think all the heavily trafficked freeways should be pulled out of the system!Oops, that would be most of our freeways! I would bet there are less accidents there, than on other parts of 5,15, 8 and 78.

No, Caltans cowerd to the ...tactics of Morones ,who by the way, compared our former mayor/governor to Hitler.

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Karl wrote on Feb 2, 2008 6:14 AM:I'm stunned.

FedUp wrote on Feb 2, 2008 7:54 AM:Did I wake up in an alternate universe this morning? Where the rights of Americans are defended and protected? Where the laws of the land are followed?
Pinch me

No wrote on Feb 2, 2008 7:59 AM:the ACLU are not racists. You see it is your constitutional right to be a racist, liberal, nazi, communist, etc. They are attemting to ensure those rights are not violated.

Amy wrote on Feb 2, 2008 8:10 AM:I would proceed with caution when it comes to getting help from the ACLU. the ACLU is schizoid and bipolar

Pluto wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:01 AM:The rant by Are The ACLU Racists Too? @11:05pm demonstrates once again how spaced-out the Minutemen are. The ACLU is and always has been for protecting and defending constitutional rights, even for liars, racists, hatemongers, criminals. Right-wingers like the Minutemen have always attacked the ACLU and called them names - until they need them. For example, they attacked them when they successfully sued Escondido, and when they successfully opposed Mike Spencer's attempt to get the personal information of people who registered under Vista's day labor ordinance. They called them all manor of vile names. If they really believed half the terrible things they said, they should refuse the ACLU's help. Looks like they don't, and they won't.

Thanks ACLU But wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:15 AM:what really is your motive in backing the minutemen????

esteban wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:52 AM:I'd never thought I'd live to see the day....

Edgar wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:32 AM:"Enrique Morones, president of the immigrant-rights group Border Angels, said some extremist activists were threatening to take down or spray- paint the signs."

http://nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/02/news/sandiego/21_25_032_1_08.txt

If Morones is against violence, he should give any evidence of threats regarding the SDMM highway sign. ...

Michelle wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:30 AM:Why aren't you posting comments?

Edgar wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:39 AM:"Enrique Morones, president of the immigrant-rights group Border Angels, said some extremist activists were threatening to take down or spray- paint the signs." LA Times 1-30-08

Even Morones admits that some in the open border movement are extreme!!

face wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:46 AM: oh please are "ACLU racists too?" like the minutemen dont do the same thing harrasing people WITH their Bullhorns and calling people third world trash!
Bunch of wannabe cowboys who wish it was the old West again posse! I said before I'll say it I dont support "nationalistic" or "facist" groups!
I am looking at you Minutemen and La raza! DISBAND! VIVA SOLUTIONS! NOT BUFFONS!

human wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:56 AM:
haaha its funny how The ol' mighty Minutemen have ACLU attorney Blair Loy under "enemies and agents of open borders"! hilarious! Yet they still want The ACLU help! hahhahah
Minutemen are turning into a joke that I always knew they were.

wow wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:59 AM:
Whats next? Are the ACLU gonna back Aryan Nations,Nation of Islam,La Raza too? what a joke!

Bill wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:06 PM:This is just a ploy from the ACLU to try and stay in good graces with the LEGAL, AMERICAN, TAX PAYING CITIZENS (A person owing loyalty to and entitled by birth or naturalization to the protection of a state or nation).

Minutemen Will Win wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:07 PM:This is a slam dunk. The illegal alien activists have picked the wrong fight this time. They must really believe this is Mexifornia!

American woman wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:12 PM:Well! It chills my blood a bit, to know that the ACLU is joining in this fray. Whatever. In my opinion, the ACLU sees a perfect opportunity to seem more human...more "acceptable" to the general population which usually reviles and rejects the group. That Blair-Loy fellow is creepy. This one should be a slam-dunk for the SDMM, and they deserve it! The whole bit about the site being dangerous is pretty weak. CalTrans wants to put the group to work on a stretch of secondary highway that lends itself to a lot more trouble from the "usual suspects" than they would ever be be able to accomplish in such close proximity to the CHP Station located at the original stretch of the 5 FWY. Maybe Enrique Morones and his band of merry pretenders will take a break.

joe wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:36 PM:Now cry about that Flores.

Censorship wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:49 PM:Where is my blog? Is the NCT two faced like the ACLU? Very difficult to trust someone that has no loyalties.

sam wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:53 PM:
Flores, Morones, Atzlan,Mecha and La Raze all part of
El Grupo will not be happy with this one. Of course they will lable this as un-american. And they will fight on to promote their racist agenda.

From Frank wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:59 PM:
Someone tell Morones that Gov. Wilson was re-elected
by an overwhelming majority because of his stance on 187. Morones - the majority rules, get it.

Good for ACLU wrote on Feb 2, 2008 1:05 PM:Thank you ACLU! I've considered you to be on the wrong side of the illegal immigration issues in almost all previous situations, but you are certainly correct on this one. Too bad Enrique, Bill and Tina, your tiring and disgusting whining about the MM didn't work even though Caltrans was willing to cave in.

Doug wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:28 PM: Those on either side of this issue need to chill in your negative comments about the xxx ACLU.The ACLU does not take a position supporting one side or another on ANY given issue, rather it attempts to defend the constitution.One would believe this is obvious but some individuals dont know how to "think" but rather let FOX network do that essential function for them.

Edgar wrote on Feb 2, 2008 4:32 PM:As far as I know, the ACLU is NOT representing the SDMM. And the SDMM will NOT be contacting the ACLU requesting their services. The ACLU will be working as a "friend of the court". The SDMM have no interest in working with the ACLU, but they applaude the fact that they are supporting Americans and their rights, for once.

I see Pluto and the wrote on Feb 2, 2008 4:34 PM:open border cadre are, once again, rambling around in their VAST backgrounds of ignorance. They are too blinded by their hate of anything American to EVEN read the article. NOWHERE does it say that the San Diego Minutemen requested or required the "help" of the ACLU. In fact, the ACLU has NO "dog in this fight." The SDMM DO list the ACLU as "open border enemies and agents" and steadfastly stand by that opinion. Funny how hypocrites like Pluto, et al, jump to declare others hypocrites. I guess they just can't see past their OWN twisted, misguided version of "reality". They are SO desperate to cast aspersions where none exist, once again. Pathetic.

Earth to Pluto wrote on Feb 2, 2008 5:37 PM:Earth to pluto, Earth to pluto. Are you there??? Oh, never mind!!

Jose wrote on Feb 2, 2008 6:52 PM:I don't even bother reading a couple of regular bloggers comments anymore. Their disrespect for America and the Legal migrants that are here are astounding. Being called xenophobes in every blog is very tired, especially when it has nothing to do with being afraid of foreigners and everything to do with obeying the laws. They don't realize that the ILLEGAL INVADERS are very seriously undermining the positions that the legal immigrants have here. Illegal means breaking the law, it is not a proper name that people are starting to give it. It is a CRIME.

Bobby wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:01 PM:Jose, you could talk until your blue in the face, some people do not get it(about the subversion of U.S. laws) and they never will. I think it's because some Americans are simply criminally minded themselves. What else can it possibly be? If you vote for McCain, for example,you have to at least ask yourself, why has this man so little respect for the borders of this nation, and yet, He says He is the one Americans can count on to keep the nation strong and safe. Huh!

ACLU Supporter wrote on Feb 3, 2008 4:38 PM:To quote David Blair-Loy of the ACLU "The ACLU defends the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for everyone."
That's what they do, and they do it if Constitutional rights or BoR are being trampled on. That's it. They aren't racist, they don't hate anyone. They just fight the good fight for what is right. You ACLU haters do remember what the Constitution is... don't you?

Suspicious wrote on Feb 4, 2008 6:57 AM:American woman- I agree the entire ACLU is chilly. I wonder if they are just trying to penetrate the movement?

Not Impressed by the ACLU Amicus wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:07 AM: Edgar- Perhaps the ACLU will turn its attention to write "amicus" briefs [friend of the court.] I read their t-shirt amicus [Harper v. PUSD] and I was trying to figure out which side the ACLU was on, they wrote the brief on behalf of the right-wingers. In my personal opinion they were writing with divided loyalties and it showed in their writings. I think the ACLU is spreding their OWN agenda and what better way than through amicus.

Duh! wrote on Feb 5, 2008 12:58 AM:This proves that the ACLU protects the rights of ALL people if their civil rights are violated. I knew this would happen. Th e ACLU is always accused of defending one group but in reality, they are protecting American freedoms. Get it? I can't stand the minutemen, but I completely think ACLU is in their right to defend their right to pick up trash.

Roberto1 wrote on Feb 5, 2008 11:08 AM:agree Duh!...just remember the xenophobic audience has a very low comprehension level... they won't understand.

A laugh riot wrote on Feb 5, 2008 12:19 PM:I must say that many of these posts are among the most amusing I've ever seen here. Watching all those who had already decided they knew just what the ACLU was twist and turn and spin and confabulate just to make reality fit their view of things rather than change that (obviously erroneous) view is great entertainment. I love the ones that say it's a plot by the ACLU to trick Americans into thinking they are a good, constitution-loving group! LOL The fierceness with which you guys resist learning anything new boggles the mind. Your stubborn refusal to accept a fact that is staring you right in the face if you don't like it...priceless. I must salute a few of you who say things like "I'm shocked"...at least you have the integrity to realize something that actually happened, even if you're stunned by it. Conservatives are hoot! LOL

Roberto1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 2:59 AM:Could it be that they mixed the ACLU up with the organisation ACLU (American Caucasian Living with Undocumented mexicans)?