cliffhanger? wrote on Feb 6, 2008 7:33 AM:Since when is 59-41 a 'cliffhanger'? It's a rout.

Ironic wrote on Feb 6, 2008 7:34 AM:The second they become a city, they'll have something Temecula doesn't have: A hospital.

Jim wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:18 AM:How are they going to raise the taxes to run a city properly without malls and businesses? The idea of Wildomar staying small and simple as a city will not pan out.
Oh, I know, my property taxes will have to go up, way up!!!!!!!!

hosptial wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:21 AM:When Temecula's hosptial is finished it will be the size of 4 Inland Valleys!!

Disincorporation wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:33 AM:Some of us at The Farm are absolutely unhappy with this vote. We didn't ask to be part of this city and now we are being forced into it. There is talk of going for a plan to disincorporate Wildomar because with enough planning, it can be done. If they don't want to go through a protracted disincorporation battle, then just redraw the city boundaries and leave The Farm out of it!

Wildomartian wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:39 AM:Now that the election is over, win or lose; glad or mad. Can ALL the "politicos" go out into the "CITY" and clean up all YOUR political signs and bring back that "RURAL" setting?

Concerned-1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:44 AM:I think we should look at the new City of Wildomar as a grand political experiment. They have no tax base. They have decided to elect council members by district. And,they already have people talking about disincorporation. Get out the banjos folks, it's going to be a real hulabaloo!

Wildomartian wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:45 AM:Hey Hospital, when is Temecula's super hospital going to be built??? By the way Inland Valley Regional is still growing!!! (It has to, or who would take care of Temecula's citizens?)

Wildomartian wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:57 AM:Hey Disincorporation, as a former "THE FARM" resident, I know many current FARM residents DID VOTE FOR YES FOR CITYHOOD! However,if it were up to me, I would cut that LITTLE THIEFDOM you call a happy community out of the Wildomar city limits and let Murrieta annex you!!! By the way I predict that THE FARM will be biggest whinny headache the new city council will have to deal with!!!

Bull wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:03 PM:People are ecstatic. This is a great day. All rumors of the new city of Wildomar's early demise are a bunch of cowpatties. Now you have local people to complain to if you don't like something. The response time will be much quicker than the county's guaranteed or you can vote them out. You only had Buster's voice for Wildomar at the county and now you have 5 of your neighbors to listen to you. You have a choice- you are either part of the problem or part of the solution...or a professional complainer.

Prop 13 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:05 PM:How hard is it to understand, people? Thanks to Prop 13 (which has only been in effect for 30 YEARS, so I can understand how you wouldn't have heard of it), and Prop 218, property taxes (or any other kind) CANNOT BE RAISED without a 2/3 vote of the residents. So all you who "don't believe it" when they say their taxes aren't going to go up, get a clue! YOUR TAXES ARE NOT GOING UP UNLESS YOU OK IT. It just isn't that hard to understand.

Clean-up Crew is already at Work wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:05 PM:Earth to "Wildomartian"- you obviously don't leave your space ship. The signs are already being taken down.
And To Concerned One- We'll tell you where to put your BANJO!

Guess What wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:20 PM:Wildomar cant afford a traffic signal never mind a traffic cop. You folks are going for a ride. oh yeah Congrats you WON

Minority decision wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:02 PM:Let's see: out of a population of 27,000, the fate of Wildomar was made by a mere 2,901 votes. That's hardly a mandate.

to Concerned-1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:20 PM:You friend, have no faith in the human spirit. This is an exciting time for a small town. Give them some support instead of your negativity.

Wildomartian wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:30 PM:1. Clean-up Crew: Really?! Look behind you there's more!
2. Minority: Maybe the remaining 24099 Wildomarians or is it Wildomarers, were to lazy to get off their duffs to go vote! (But will still whine about the outcome!) Or they don't have the legal RIGHT to vote!

No on Cityhood, Too late wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:36 PM:Well, with such a small percentage of people who voted, only those who actually voted have the "right to complain"! If you didn't take the time to vote and you didn't want Wildomar to become a city, it's too late now unfortunately. Now we have to join together and make it work!

Ok Wildomartian wrote on Feb 6, 2008 2:06 PM:you can have the last word. We're moving on and we'll leave you to rant alone. We've got a city to build. We're making a fresh start and creating our future.

Peter wrote on Feb 6, 2008 2:25 PM:Congrats Wildomar!!!

Roberto1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 2:45 PM:Ironic: Hospital(s) don't generate a tax base

SEDCO preprop 13 .01% park income, not quimby went to the Riverside County general general fund.

Quimby fees need to be timelined and saved if needed for real parks

Economic delvelopment zone split between Lakeland and Wildomar needs assesment.

If you need more i'll post it.

Yikes!

Concerned-1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 3:20 PM:To To Concerned and Clean Up. I have a right to be negative about your incorporation. I don't see a tax base and I see a nightmare with your choice of electing people by district. It's a blueprint for failure. You should have waited another five to 10 years. I do wish you all the best of luck, and I don't want to see you fail. Sorry about the banjo comment, but I see a lot of the Hatfields and McCoys coming your way.

ModernRock wrote on Feb 6, 2008 3:30 PM:Now that Wildomar is a city, will it take over the schools from th Lake Elsinore Unified School District? Or will it continue to use Lake Elsinore USD? Will Lake Elsinore High be renamed to Wildomar High? Just wondering.

Roberto1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 3:56 PM:Forget it Modern Rock, The school district and city council are separate entities.

To Roberto-1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 3:57 PM:please continue....

To Concerned-1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 4:14 PM:We can agree to disagree. If we waited another 5-10 years, we risked losing pieces of our town to other cities, the state money for new cities which ends in 2009, a perfect revenue neutrality equation, etc. The timing was perfect and it was now. Wildomar is not going to fail. No one will let it. But thanks for the good wishes. BTW- there are Hatfields and McCoys in every city. They just have to be rounded up occasionally.

former customer wrote on Feb 6, 2008 4:30 PM:Marcia Swanson! ARE YOU KIDDING?
I will be on the recall band wagon.
City yes. Swanson NO WAY!!!!!
In wildomar let's make ethics # 1

Concerned-1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 4:33 PM:True dat 4:14. Best of luck to the new city.

customer wrote on Feb 6, 2008 4:36 PM:Marcia Swanson! ARE YOU KIDDING?
I will be on the recall band wagon.
City yes. Swanson NO WAY!!!!!
In wildomar let's make ethics # 1

Nancy wrote on Feb 6, 2008 4:39 PM:I'm so proud of all the Wildomar leaders and their accomplishments! With people like them, Wildomar will be well guided. Keep up the good work.

CHR wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:07 PM:I AGREE WITH FORMER CUSTOMER. SHE HASN'T STARTED YET. BUT I WILL BE AT EVERY MEETING UNTIL SHE IS GONE.
MARCIA SWANSON. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

RICH wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:26 PM:I AM WITH CUSTOMER. MARCIA SWANSON HAS NO BUSINESS RUNNING A CITY. I AM ON THE BAND WAGON WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!

OTRPD wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:28 PM:If you thought the Ortega Trail Recreation and Park District fiasco that was going on back in the mid 1990s was bad and almost tore this community apart, wait until the city council is seated on July 1st! Politics in Wildomar has always been contentious and more than a little dirty. It's going to get ratcheted up a few notches now. The moment our city council begins to establish fees and starts trying to run our lives, it's going to get UGLY! And Wildomartian: I agree about The Farm, but then, they never had much in common with Wildomar anyway due to simple geography. They should be with Menifee. Can the city council redraw the city lines to exclude The Farm? Seriously. It would benefit both The Farm and the City of Wildomar.

OTRPD wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:32 PM:Customer: You are right about ethic in Wildomar, however, those in political power within Wildomar (such as those who sat on the OTRPD) sat ethics aside in favor of their pet projects. Why should we expect any different from this new batch of folk? I mean, Robert Cashman is a nice enough fellow, but he is about as hypocritical as they come. He ran for school district while he and his wife Diane homeschooled their children! He didn't trust the school district enough to send his own children to community schools! This is a long known fact in Wildomar.

richy wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:34 PM:I am with former customer. I will be at every meeting until Marcia Swanson is gone. She has no business running a city. I am on the band wagon with you.
Think before you act people. Some of us know her.

Roberto1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:43 PM:The first order of business is getting a City Manager. This is tantamount IMHO to everything else to get through the process and capture as much revenue as possible including but not limited to grants, monies that could end up in the counties pocket but belong to the new city etc.

Finally wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:46 PM:Yes!!! Finally Wildomar is a city!!! Now I don't have to worry about becoming a part of lake Elsinore or Murrieta. If I wanted to live in those 2 cities I would have bought my home there 20 yrs ago!!!! Good luck Wildomar & I'm sure there will be bumps in the road but it's how we deal with then that's important.

farm res. wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:58 PM:I live in one of the new stick built housing tracts in the farm. We are not all "farmers" get over yourselves. Cityhood is a good thing. If you don't like it, maybe it's time to move too anza!!!

Jon wrote on Feb 6, 2008 6:14 PM:I agree with cityhood but I'm not sure Swanson was a wise choice. She took out a 1/2 page color ad in the newspaper for three days but there was no mention of voting for cityhood in the ad; just vote for her.

hahaha wrote on Feb 6, 2008 7:33 PM:Wildomar will not succeed. Amid a housing crisis, property tax will be insufficient. In addition, how can you attract/keep retailers and businesses if there is no population to support it. With Murrieta, Elsinore, and Temecula with basically everything the valley needs the measley residents of Wildomar cannot support businesses. In addition, they will need to straighten out all the public services etc. which will cost money, something the state does not have to back them up if they fail. Who will be the ones paying for the whining people of Wildomar? The rest of the taxpayers.

question wrote on Feb 6, 2008 7:56 PM:How are we going to pay for public safety with no tax base??? We are already in need of another fire station! Public safety is the number one goal of government which means our newly formed city. Not being negative just an honest question. Having our house alarm go off and waiting for the Sherrifs deparment for over an hour and half in the past in not ideal when we are now footing the bill!

Roberto1 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:14 PM:To question, The short answer is: Public safety like fire stations are paid for by developer mitigation fees which an apportioned amount should be in the counties hands and slated for Wildomar. Think about it this way. you still have what you have always had or not under county oversight, now your services will be managed on a local level. Doen the road, it may very well pencil to have your own police department or continue to contract with the county depending on the level of service and cost the constituents want to pay albeit the same or more.

Worried with good reason wrote on Feb 12, 2008 6:26 PM:I don't know what the fuss is all about as far as planning and meetings. The council members have likely already decided on the selection of city manager and other paid city positions - along with who will reap the profits of city contracts. You don't have to wait for the meetings or announcements. Just take a look at the winning candidates' list of campaign contributors. The council members will run the new city just like they ran their campaigns…with total disregard for the letter or spirit of the law. At least until the voters of Wildomar stand up and insist on clean government.

doug l. wrote on Mar 16, 2008 6:17 PM:good luck to the top five council members i know you put alot of energy into this endeavor this will be a great city don`t forget when you are ready to move into our city hall don`t forget to see me for your uhaul ! thanks again and good luck doug l.