Smells Like Coverup! wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:21 PM:NCT has never been known for their investigative reporting and this just proves it. Listen to Rick and Roger Thursday for the latest. They are all over it. Yes a few boneheads didn't know they couldn't vote in another party's primary (duh), but far more people WERE registered Republican and were denied. This should be fully investigated by the state. Smells fishy to most of us.

Vista Resident wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:29 PM:I knew that I couldn't vote Republican this year because of their rules. If other folks didn't know it, it's hardly grounds for an investigation.

What is a huge deal is that superdelegates may end up deciding the Democratic race. So, we start solving one problem with the voting machines -- and then we get robbed at the finish line by a bunch of fat-cat politicians. Geesh.

If the vote gets stolen by superdelegates, I will be reluctant to vote Democratic again.

ReadTheRules wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:43 PM:Those who are asserting that this whole thing is part of some massive conspiracy to disenfranchise Romney voters apparently aren't aware that the statewide vote total has almost no impact on the number of delegates each Republican candidate gets.

The vote is tallyed by Congressional District, with the winner in that district getting all its delegates. The districts expected to go for Romney did, in fact, do so, and he took the delegates from those districts.

So, if this was a grand conspiracy it was the worst-executed conspiracy ever.

If there were errors in the registration database, they should be corrected, but, by and large, I'd put this one in the "hogwash" column.

smilinjack wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:18 PM:As a Democrat, I'm thrilled that so many people wanted to vote for Clinton or Obama that some precincts ran out of ballots. As I understand it, in many instances, more ballots were rushed to most of these precincts. I've also heard that, in some instances, the poll workers didn't know that "decline-to-state" voters were allowed to request a Democratic ballot. I don't believe that there was any sinister plot involved, just honest mistakes by a few poll workers.

All in all, it's a great day for Democrats and for the world! Remember, politics is like driving; D to go forward, R to go backward!

BUCK wrote on Feb 7, 2008 1:20 AM:Leave it to the republicans to change their own parties rules of voting and cry foul. We all know the republican party is crooked. Need I remind you all of Watergate. Tell me how it makes any sense that an independant can vote democratic but can't vote republican.I am NP I asked for a democratic ballot. Its fuzzy math...now I'll sit back and listen.

David wrote on Feb 7, 2008 1:27 AM:What does it matter. The US is fed up with the republicans running the country down the toilet. The next president will be a democrat anyway. This president has run up 10 trillion in deficit so far. The republican party understands this thats why they will change the voting rules and whine about their own rules. Boo Woo. If you dont like it vote for the independant!

SanMarcosJoe wrote on Feb 7, 2008 2:44 AM:Yes, we will probably get your Democrat President and Congress and you will get your Tax increases, more free Social programs and more illeagl imigrants will get the freebys, social security and sponge off the system. Hey, that is the way our Democrats buy the votes!!!!

Disenfranchised Voter wrote on Feb 7, 2008 3:18 AM:There will be a probe if I have to do it myself. I have worked the polls and I have several personal examples of irregularities. There needs to be some serious house-cleaning at the Registrar's Office!

Yokozuna wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:32 AM:A member of my family (an absentee voter) changed her affiliation to "declined to state". She received correspondence from the county clearly stating that she would not be able to vote for a Republican. If she wanted to vote in the Democratic Primary she just needed to reply and she would have those candidates on her ballot. She replied and her ballot did contain those names as promised. In all fairness we don't know how it works for those who vote at polls.

Mary wrote on Feb 7, 2008 6:23 AM:The Republicans in their paranoia thought that Democrats and Independents were going to waste their votes to nominate a person not acceptable to them. But now it turns out even with a closed primary they can not find someone suitable to the conservative base. Why? Because their ideas are bankrupt just like they have bankrupt the country. Democrats are showing up at the polls in record numbers while the Republicans have been staying home. Hopefully they have learned their lesson about fallacy of closed primaries.

Typical wrote on Feb 7, 2008 6:43 AM:We have a problem but lets ignore it and tell everyone all is OK. CYA for our public servants.

Hey San Marcos Joe wrote on Feb 7, 2008 7:28 AM:How about a little quiz? Which President had the last balanced budget? Hint, he had a brother named Billy. Yeah, it is going to be horrible having a Democrat in office, look at the recession we had under Clinton, ooops bad example, it was huge economic expansion. Maybe we could look at how Bush got the budget under control, ooops, another bad example. Geeez, I just can't see what could be so bad about a Democrat running the country, except you might want to sell your Halliburton stock!!!!

Scott wrote on Feb 7, 2008 7:42 AM:Anyone hearing of this for the first time just by reading this article, I suggest doing a bit more research. I have heard quite a few people that have voted republican at the same polling place for years and years and they were denied a republican ballot. Maybe it is a simple mistake by some polling places but either way it is worth looking in to.

esteban wrote on Feb 7, 2008 7:45 AM:Fine, elect a Dem for Prez. You'll see the carnage that will ensue. Then I will say I told you so.

JSten wrote on Feb 7, 2008 7:49 AM:This primary was meaningless and a waste of money. I too was prevented from voting the republican main ballot because I am an independent. I guess the country club mainstream parties aren't interested in who I think will be the best one in whatever party. I don't blame the County necessarily, they probably just follow the money.

Vista Granny wrote on Feb 7, 2008 7:53 AM:The Republican Party brought this about, so just accept it and move on!! Maybe you should find out the rules before you go to the polls. If Rick Roberts is screaming foul, then, so what? He makes his living doing that.

Here's what I saw.... wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:00 AM:a nice little old lady ... who was in the short line before me. She was a registered repubican but wanted to vote in democratic primary??? That caused all sorts of scrambling about as they tried to explain to her that she couldn't do that. So after they got her all set up with a ballot for the propositions, she pulls out an absentee ballot "from her grandson who just moved in with her" and wanted to cast it as well. They explained that they couldn't cast the absentee ballot without the original envelope which she did not have at the time. She almost cried and stated that she had arhtritis and would have to go all the way back home to get the envelope and wouldn't they please cast the ballot anyway. The poll workers CAST the absentee ballot as provisonal anyway!!! When I had cast my ballot, I went away thinking I had just seen voter fraud in action. But who do you call and what can they do about it? I think the lady was trying to vote both in the democratic and republican primaries.

BUCK must be really old! wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:10 AM:Watergate was over 30 years ago! Since then we've had Monica gate, House Post Office check bouncing gate, Rose Law Firm billing gate, and a host of other Democrat sponsored shenanigans. The acts of sleazy individuals does not indict a political party.

To Buck wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:54 AM:Why go all the way back to Watergate when we have Iraqgate? The lies continue!

Vista Democrat wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:02 AM:I was able to vote, even though my Party Affiliation was incorrectly identified as Green Party. I've been a life long Democrat and have lived at the same address for 20 years. I still have my voter guides from the last 3 elections and they all show me as Democratic. But, this last election I got a booklet that said "Green Party"! So, if my party affiliation can be changed without my knowledge, I don't doubt that it happened to others as well. As for those others here claiming to Democrats and actually being "glad" to see this happen to Republicans, remember this sort of manipulation of our voter registration could be turned on us. Moreover, if this is a widespread problem there is every chance that the vote could be protested and the election results held up in court for quite some time. That is NOT the Democratic way of electing representatives or holding and election! I'm proud to call myself a Democrat, and I'm honored that others desire to register in their Party's affiliation. I would NEVER want to see anybody's right to participate in our chosen form of government be violated due to some stupid mistake or computer error!!! If in fact there is some sort of fraud taking place, then that too could cause problems for us Democrats. If you don't remain vigilant, your will someday wake up and find that your country has been stolen and your right to vote, or participate in your government is gone!

To Hey San Marco Joe wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:16 AM:The Clinton Boom was actually a false economy created on paper. Enron's and WorldCom's manipulation of reality took place under the eyes of Clinton and weren't busted until Bush arrived. The question here is, "do you blame the one who caught them in the fraud, or do you blame the one who allowed it?" By the way, the current Mortgage Crisis is actually due to changes in the rules initiated under Clinton that only reach their peak problems under Bush. When dealing with an economy as large as that in the US it can take many years before the full effects of changes in legislation or application of law by the executive branch will be felt. You can either let the market economy run itself, or you can attempt to manipulate it as our government has been doing for many years now. Either way, there will be ups and downs. But, the question will always be who really caused it, and what do you do about it. The American way has been in the past to simply buckle down and DEAL WITH IT! But back then people took pride in their Country and wouldn't DARE attempt to manipulate voting, or election results. They actually understood the great FREEDOMS we have in America and were willing to DIE to protect them! Guess we are nearing the end of the great experiment known as the United States of America.

Olaf wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:22 AM:Funny in Florida and later Ohio when the Dem's were crying voter fraud everybody ... was laughing and telling them to learn how to vote. Now what are people on AM radio complaining about??? Voter fraud. Funny how these things come around on ya!... The repub's did it to themselves. I have voted in Repub's primary for years, first being in the party and then later as an Independant. I knew that I was not going to be able to vote in it this year but I LISTEN and READ the instructions. So maybe all these whiners can and probably will cause an investigation but don't sound like the Florida whiners. It makes you look really bad!

r wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:25 AM:Excuse me, but it is not "calling foul". There was a guy on the radio- and I heard him!- say that, "if an Idependent chose to go Republican they wouldn't be able to vote for president..." so they needed to go Democrat so that they could vote for president.

I was so thrown off by what he said, because it didn't make any sense to me, that I missed part of his reasoning. But I know it didn't make any sense whatsoever.

How can it be that if I chose to vote Repubican I can't vote for president but if I vote Democrat I can???? I HEARD HIM SAY IT! I wish I could remember what station I was listening to. I'd love to hear it again and get the reasoning behind his statement.

HE DID SAY IT.

IMHO, NONE of the candidates are worthy of presidency.

This has to stop! wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:48 AM:It is time to do a completely new vote, maybe reschedule out until April, this is so corrupt.

Shades of Florida wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:49 AM:Do the whole vote over.

Common Sense wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:00 AM:Scott. The example you cite is exactly right and there is a factual explanation that involves no wrong doing and no conspiracy. All the election in the recent past, with the exception of the 2004 Pres primary were open to all crossovers. Pres primary 2004 was closed (as this one was) but it was a combined ballot so you had George Bush on your ballot.
This primary was closed by the GOP to non GOP registered voters, no crossovers. The folks you talk about have most likely voted GOP for many many years, but they are not registered Reps.
It was not a mistake by poll workers, if you were not a registered Rep this past Tuesday you could not vote for the Rep Pres candidates. "Your" party closed it this time because they did not want non republican crossovers to decide their party candidate for president.

Common Sense wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:05 AM:"r" Here is your answer. If you are an independent, not AMERICAN INDEPENDENT, or non-partisan, you were allowed to vote (crossover) and vote in the Democratic primary (for president) and the American Independent primary. They "opened" their primary to crossovers. The Republican party chose to "close" their primary and not allow anyone other than registered Reps to vote for their candidates.

John E wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:30 AM:As we have been observing over the past weeks, the American system for selecting the major parties' Presidential nominees is fundamentally flawed and unfair. I would replace it with a same-day primary across all 50 states, ideally with Irish-style preference rank voting. The top popular vote-getter in each party's primary should become that party's candidate in the final election. I also strongly favor a blanket open primary, in which each voter, irrespective of declared party affiliation, may vote for one candidate per office, again irrespective of party affiliation. The American center is finally re-emerging, but this would help reinforce this welcome trend.

Easy Solution wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:31 AM:Let's just get rid of the parties altoghether. That way people would have to run on their own merits instead of some ridiculous party bs. That way anyone can vote for whichever candidate they want without all the headaches and hassles. Of course there's probably not enough money in that and lord knows the politicians don't actually want the general public to decide who wins so it will never happen ... but it's nice to dream.

I have illegal alien wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:33 AM:friends that were not llowed to vote and they are contacting ACLU!

Common Sense wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:43 AM:Scott, here is your answer. Yes, they have voted Republican at the same place for years. They are not likley registered Republicans. They are likely non-partisan or Independent. The reason this has not come up before is most elections (primaries for this example) have been open to crossovers. Meaning anyone from NP or Independent can vote for a chosen party in their primary. In 2004 Pres Primary, it was closed too, but there was a combined ballot in CA which allowed Bush to be on every ballot.

This one Tuesday was closed and the Rep party closed their primary to non-republican registered voters. The reason that have stated is they did not want anyone other than Reps to decide who their pres candidate would be.

"r" the person on the radio was making the same point. If you were a NP you could have requested a Democrat ballot and you would have been given one since the Dems "opened" their primary to crossovers. If you were that same NP and you asked for a Rep ballot, you were refused because that party "closed" their primary.

Do away with Primaries! wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:48 AM:There is NOTHING in the US Constitution about Political Parties. They are a creation of the many powers that want to run this country. So, if these Parties want to exist, and I have nothing against them, then let them run their Parties and methods of choosing Candidates be handled by each of them internally. Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for a Primary Election simply so that these Private Organizations called Political Parties can figure out who they want to spend their money on? Let them all hold their own internal elections among those that have joined these Organizations and totally control their own processes internally. This way you would not have any need to claim any Party affiliation when registering to vote. You could simply join your chosen Party directly, and they could then handle how they do their voting. In fact, this would allow people to join multiple Parties if they so desired, and work on multiple campaigns for multiple candidates. Its all a private matter anyway, so why not? Save the true Voting Process for the Elections that REALLY count! It would save money and remove all the crazy bickering that takes place in these Primaries!

Common Sense wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:50 AM:Do the whole vote over? Nothing would change.

If you are registered NP it says that right on the front of your sample ballot. There is also a page inside my sample ballot that explains what NPs can and cannot do.

If you registered to vote and checked the box that said "Decline to State" meaning you did not want to chose a party, you are a NP.

It's all very simple wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:52 AM:Without delving into any partisan attacks, we should endeavor to clear up this issue for next time. Please see http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_decline.htm for a full explanation of our now "modified open" primary rules, which allow each party to accept or decline the votes of non-partisan voters. Only if there were registered Republicans who were *denied* a Republican ballot did actual disenfranchisement occur. Anything short of that is simple ignorance of the (party generated) rules.

illegal Aliens wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:55 AM:vote for Clinton! She will give you a pathway to complete citizenship!

Direct personal experience wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:56 AM:I've tried three times to reregister as a Republican from the Libertarian party. Each time I've shown up at the polls, my registration had not been changed. This time, I did my registration EARLY, followed up on the phone several times with the registrar, and still, when I got to the polls, I was listed as Libertarian. Thankfully, I had just, that morning, received my election booklet that showed me as a REP, so I could vote. I got my proof of registration the day AFTER the election. I'm not sure if it's incompetence or malice, and I always try to believe the former if it can be an explanation, but in either case, it's clear to me that people are being disenfranchised by the Registrar failing to do their job in the time allotted.

If 52 people wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:15 PM:had their cars towed on February 1, 2008 in Escondido's check point program, how many people are voting that shouldn't be?

Wife of an Independent wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:41 PM:I was so surprised by the people who expressed shock at not being able to vote Republican at the polls. The rule was clearly defined in the information sent to my husband, an Independent. Does no one read the directions?

too many elections wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:45 PM:In CA we will have three elections this year. Why? Because someone wanted us to be a part of the Primary election for the President. But, our CA Constitution requires us to hold a Primary in June. So, we now have had an election in February, we will still have our Constitutionally required June Primary for CA political seats, and then the General Election in November. Does anybody realize how much we taxpayers are having to apy for all this mess? Do away with the Primaries all together and let the Parties choose their candidates their own way. Telephone vote, mail-in ballots, door to door, or whatever. Just don't require the taxpayer to subsidize your Party's political process! Since the tax dollars are not equally spent supporting ALL Parties vying to be heard or recognized, it is already an unfair process. So, save us all some money and get rid of State mandated particpation in a Party! Registration would be much easier to manage and control, and each party could run themselves any way they want and use any rules they desire! Besides, it is the Party's money that is being spent to get the Party's condidate eleceted. So, why NOT?

Disenfranchised wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:52 PM:When you have proof of Registration as a member of a particular Party (my Registration Card) and you arrive at the polling place to find you are listed as some other party, and the Poll worker says you must have changed your registration and thus you can't vote the way your registraion card shows, that is a problem! The Registrar of Voters Claims there was NO PROBLEM? I for one can prove to them there was! My right to vote was denied! Clarical error? Why suddenly now after all these years? It never happended before in 30 years of voting. And don't go trying to say I didn't know my Party affiliation! I am a card carrying member and can prove it! So, why did my registration suddenly change for this election???? Too many others seem to have had the same problem. But, even one is one too many! Especially when it is you! Better watch this one closely as you may well be next to loose your right to cast a vote!

Disgruntled voter wrote on Feb 7, 2008 1:49 PM:Isn't it sad when the best we can hope of the Registrar's Office is that they are merely lazy and inept and not actually dishonest? I learned about the new convoluted rules and made a point of reregistering as a Republican for this election. My son did the same thing. We were both still listed as non-partisan. I ended up voting for my first black president by default. If anyone really cares about this, they might want to pay a little visit to the Registrar.

To Disgruntled Voter wrote on Feb 7, 2008 2:03 PM:Just remember those convoluted rules were not established by the registrar ... they were done by those wonderful republicans you reregistered for. Doesn't it make you feel better knowing they only care about their own and go out of their way to exclude anyone who doesn't want to join their club?

Common Sense wrote on Feb 7, 2008 2:42 PM:What exactly do you mean by registration card? You might be a card carrying republican, but explain what "proof" you have that you are a registered republican. To the best of my knowledge, there is no such document.
But perhaps you know something we do not.

And, if you went to the polls you could have cast (should have cast) a provisional ballot. If you claim to be a registered (not card carrying the only way I've voted for 30 years)republican, they'd check it out and your entire ballot would be counted. If they find you are NP, your presidential would not be counted but your other votes would.

Pinky wrote on Feb 7, 2008 3:41 PM:Human error more likely. I have been registered Independent for twelve years but I always receive a Republican ballot. My husband is a registered Democrat and he always gets a Republican ballot. I have called the Registrar's office and they agree that we are not registered Republicans but next election comes around, we still get the Repub ballots. I don't care anyways, we both voted for Ron Paul.

Why would you? wrote on Feb 7, 2008 5:24 PM:If you owned a business (even as a stockholder) why would you want people not also owning the business to be allowed to vote on how you were going to spend your money? you must realize that for most of the existence of Political Parties only members of the Party could cast votes during a Primary to determine the candidate of choice. It was not until the last 20 years, when the Democratic Party needed to build coalitions and attract independents, that the open Primary concept began. When it was first introduced in CA around 1988 it went over like a lead balloon! In fact the Parties (Democratic and Republican) went to court to get the states open primary law overturned. You see, the Parties are in fact "PRIVATE" organizations! Each Party gets to choose its own leaders and representatives, as well as make up their own rules on how to run their internal affairs, and how to spend their money. These Parties are NOT part of the Government or the Governmental System in America. No, they are nothing more than a group of people who have gotten together to help pool their money and knowledge to build a platform and find a candidate (or candidates) to fill elected positions within the many governments that exist within our country. So, when Voters get upset about a Primary being closed, or start criticizing one Party or the other for having closed their Primary, they show their own inept understanding of the Governmental System and Political Process that has made America GREAT. by the way, anyone of you can start your own Political Party, but if you don't want outsiders coming in and recasting your Party into the image of their own existing Party you will need to make certain that you too have closed Primary Elections. Obviously, most of those posting here today are ignorant of the way Political Parties work. Time to truly join one, show up at the local meetings, and get involved in the Political Process!

To Common Sense wrote on Feb 7, 2008 5:34 PM:When i registerd by mail the Registrar of Voters sent me a Post Card showing my Political Affiliation. I have kept that card in a file as "PROOF" tha I'm a Registered, Card-Carrying member of the Republican Party! As for a Provisional Ballot: I asked to cast a Provisional Ballot and they refused to provide one, claiming that I could only vote for something other than Republican. I continued to argue with them until the pooint at which they "threatened to call the Police." At that point I asked them to do so, "PLEASE!" But, the only person who arrived was a rent-a-cop who stood there with his hands on his hips and told me to leave! I did return later that day and got my provisional ballot from the new crew that had taken over in the evening. But, I was beginning to think I was back in the South in the 1960's! Mom and Dad got pushed and shoved every time they tride to vote back then. Yes, I'm a Black Republican!

Anti-Party wrote on Feb 7, 2008 6:47 PM:They may 'technically' be independent organizations but they are far more in control of our nations politics than people like 'Why would you?' would like you to think. Good luck getting someone outside one of the two major 'clubs' in the White House. Won't happen. The electoral college won't allow it to happen because the non-club members aren't the ones who pay the bills. I've personally never joined a party because there isn't a single one that encompasses all my beliefs and I probably wouldn't even if I found one that did because I'm a free-thinker who sees no need to sign allegiance for someone else to speak for me. I just wish more people could step outside of the box just long enough to see how divisive these groups are. Maybe then we could obtain the change everyone seems so desperate for.

Rules changed? wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:00 AM:I workedthe polls and approximately 20% were disenfranchised. All were Republicans, save one. ALL had "mysteriously" had their party affiliation changed to N/P wherein they could vote Democrat or AIP, but NOT Republican. The ROV could confidently blame the Republican Party for having a "closed primary." This is blatant and disgusting corruption, perpetrated by the party who will sell this country to the highest bidder...

Roger wrote on Feb 8, 2008 1:34 PM:We got so many Republicans that showed up as nonpartisan
( couldn't chose to vote Republican)
that I'm sure something big happened here.
We did our best for them, but I don't think it is for
the register of voters to tell them what party they are able to vote in...
Somebody changed a lot of people from Republican in Lakeside
to N/P. It was like 50 people out of 270.
That is BIG. ...

Common Sense wrote on Feb 8, 2008 3:02 PM:The above is simply not true. No one had their party affiliation mysteriously changed. Every single name brought to the ROV by the press has been checked and every single person has been found to have re-registered or registered properly. The vast majority of those fall into two main categories. Did not choose a party left the box blank, or checked "decline to state." Both by state law become non-partisan.
Every single person checked has voted in past elections, some as far back as the early 90's as non-partisan but the party rules have allowed them to have ballots. Most people when asked thought "decline to state" was simply them chosing not to share with anyone what party affiliation they were.
Surprisingly there were an awful lot who registered American Independent thinking that was an Independent, but not true. So they could not vote REP ballot this time.

Now lets do some math to understand the true scope of this. Right now, non-partisan is about 23% of registered voters in SD. 1.3 million registerd voters. Rounding up, that is about 300K NPs in SD. If you statistically use, as an example, 50 50 split of those being Dems and Reps. That is about 150K people who were potentially ready to vote the Rep ticket and could not based on party rules. This happened statewide people.

In each case I mentioned above the voter has signed his/her name in the rosters next to their printed name. Right next to that are the letters "NP".
Please learn from it but don't keep looking for others to blame. That is so...well...political.

To Common Sense wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:40 PM:I think I've finally found my hero! Keep it coming!

Quality Control wrote on Feb 9, 2008 3:43 AM:My questions haven't been answered and I will continue to probe. The integrity of our vote is too important to sweep it under the rug once again. I WILL get my answers before the general election. Count on it.

Common Sense wrote on Feb 11, 2008 11:21 AM:Hey Qualtiy Control, what questions would those be? Give it a whirl.

Commoner's Sense wrote on Feb 12, 2008 9:40 PM:To common sense: My question(s) would be:

A) What party am I registered with?
B) When was my registration processed by the registrar?
C) I have a receipt from the paperwork that I filled out, dated, with all the assurances that I would be on the list of eligible voters for my particular party on voting day -- where is the form that went with that receipt?

And since you prompt it -- D) what is with the incredibly defensive posture and evident insecurity demonstrated by officials associated with the registrar? Since you have all of the answers, please enlighten me, since for some crazy reason, they won't.

If the registrar honestly had too much paper to deal with or it's employees just couldn't get the job done, then the public would be well-served to know this such that we can modify our expectations to meet reality. Is that so much to ask of OUR government?

Common Sense wrote on Feb 13, 2008 10:27 AM:Ok, I forgot you could not put phone numbers in. I would love to help you and get you those answers and get them quickly. The only way I can think of is for you to contact a reporter for this paper named Gig [Conaughton]. He will be able to put you in contact with me and I will get your answers. I will call Gig if they post this.

Olaf wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:23 AM:Good job Common Sense... you will never make the whiners happy. They believe that they were wronged because their guy didn't win. You could show them their name on the paper right where they signed and they will still claim injustice. It reminds me of the Floida people in 2000. So I would like to thank the ROV for all they do. The repub's would like nothing more then 5 star service from over worked, underpaid civil servants. I understand it is ironoc that they want superior service will cutting more and more budgets from them. Maybe we can get some undocumented workers to do the civil job... oh I forgot they don't like them too. sorry.

Common Sense wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:57 AM:Ok, I have made the call and he'll put you in touch with me and I will get you your info. Then you can decide what comes next. I am more than willing to help you get to the bottom of it.

Common Sense wrote on Feb 20, 2008 4:13 PM:So you obviously are not wanting to take me up on this offer. We could straighten it out. Sometimes I wonder if people just make things up to participate on the forum. I remain more than willing to help and get you your information.