Letters to the Editor - 2/14/2008
By: Readers of the North County Times and The Californian | ∞
Let's not waste time on name-calling
Responding to a letter from Michael Campbell http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/05/opinion/letters/2_4_0817_12_21.txt”>(Letters, Feb. 5): Mr. Campbell's enlightening letter alerted me to the “half-truths, distortions and fairy tales” that I have erroneously embraced as my personal convictions. In the future I will endeavor to moderate my actions accordingly, in spite of his letter's near-hysterical tone.
Even more importantly, during the preceding eight years, our country has suffered an indeterminable loss of integrity, both internationally and domestically, and we are entering a serious financial recession. Our national debt exceeds $9 trillion. It is imperative that we look for real solutions to restore our position in the world, and not waste time on ego-motivated name-calling, as was actually the content of this letter.
Sherry Robeson
Carlsbad
Where are the regular troops?
Ever wondered, like me, why the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are being fought by reserves and National Guard troops? These civilian soldiers' families are being destroyed because the regulars and their dependents -- over half a million -- are scattered throughout the over 6,000 military bases in 130 countries around the world. Since World War II, the U.S. has been establishing foreign bases. We have multiple bases in Germany, Japan and Korea, and the list continues to grow. Some have been occupied for over 58 years.
[Some of] these countries see us as a warmongering country and want us out. These bases are owned by the Pentagon, which claims to be the largest landowner on the globe. This is one reason the countries of the world hate us. I can't blame them.
The U.S. has destroyed so many lives by empire building. Now the world countries intend to reel us in, www.awardlabs.com/dubai. We are not the chosen world police and need to bring our troops and jobs home and restore the families again. Vote for someone who promises to do this, to restore the U.S. image and stay out of other countries' affairs!
Clifford Brown
Vista
Flag offenders are off base
Lately there have been some letters on these pages upset with the photo of Stephanie Dezee (Feb. 3) with the flag wrapped around her while she encourages people to register to vote. How much more patriotic can a person be?
The latest to be upset is Laila Charlson http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/11/opinion/letters/2_10_0819_19_36.txt”> (Letters, Feb. 11), who is upset because “the flag is never used as a decoration or as a garment.” Haven't these people ever seen flag patches on jackets at the mall, or flag bumper stickers on cars, or stickers of the flag in the window? Have they never watched the Olympics and seen athletes with the flag draped around themselves after they've won an event for our country? Are these decorations and/or garments ... disrespectful or are they a way of showing love and appreciation for this country?
The flag people who are offended by the photo in the NCT should drive through neighborhoods after sundown looking for flags displayed outside of residences without illumination on the flag, another flag etiquette faux pas. They could just go knock on the door to educate the offenders and then feel so good that they are helping save the republic. Does it seem that these flag rangers have wrapped themselves so tightly in our flag that they may have cut off the oxygen to their brains?
Bill Homann
San Marcos
Another reason to oppose concrete plant
Obviously, a majority of the Oceanside City Council [seems ready] to approve the Robertson's Ready Mix plant on Industry Street, as noted in recent remarks in the North County Times. This plant was decided in the NCT article and the public has not been heard by the council.
One day after the Planning Commission heard this issue, Reuters News announced the majority holding sale of Robertson's to Mitsubishi Materials for $900 million. This is no longer a family-owned business. Big money talks.
This plant will negatively affect many neighborhoods and the environment. ... Remember this when you vote for council candidates.
Donna McGinty
Oceanside
It can, and will, happen here
Shortsighted, tax-adverse people in San Diego County need to prepare. When any emergency strikes, i.e., floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and even terrorist bombings (think WMDs), our fire departments are the first responders in all cases, nationwide. That's a fact! Not worried? Don't care? Our military will certainly be involved, but in what time frame for their call-outs? ... We will never have 24/7 immediate response for national disasters on our own soil from the Army or Marines.
The modern (yes, modern) fire services are tasked to be all-risk, multi-function agencies and are expected to be experts in handling anything and everything that may be thrown their way. Volunteers are just that, volunteers, not experts in a field outside their normal lives. Proper numbers of dedicated, professionally trained and properly staffed fire and rescue resources (one in the same) can and will be required at a moment's notice, any day or every day, not just for wildfires every October.
When the Big One, i.e., the earthquake, hits Southern California, what are you going to do? Think about it -- it's going to happen. Not if, but when.
Dennis Schwander
retired fire captain,
Orange County Fire Authority
Oceanside
Injury to one is an injury to all
Mr. Mel Gallegos http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/12/opinion/letters/2_11_0817_43_23.txt”>(Letters, Feb. 12) wants to separate himself from those he describes as “illiterate persons from Mexico who crawled across the dry riverbed last night.” In short, he is asking for validation from the dominate culture. ...
It is true that Mexican-Americans are different in many ways from our newly arrived brothers and sisters who, like our grandparents, are seeking a better way of life for their children. However, no matter how much Mr. Gallegos pleads for acceptance, until we work together to fight the rising tide of hatred toward Latinos, neither newly arrived immigrants nor those Gallegos describes as “ancient citizens” will find redemption.
As Martin Luther King stated, an injury to one is an injury to all, and I would add that is especially true when we look alike. Fredi Avalos
Vista
Troops being wrongly tried
Sgt. Evan Vela's U.S. Army trial is disgraceful (“Army sniper accused of murder in Iraq weeps on stand as he recalls shooting,” Feb. 10). The Army is trying our troops in Iraq because they cannot be convicted in America. In America, these troops would be represented by civilian attorneys who would actually defend them. The usual military “fix is in” culture would not work in America. These young men would have their families in the courtroom supporting them.
When a general states he wants them convicted, no officer on any court-martial will violate his wishes. Military defense attorneys are willing to, and capable of, giving the accused less-than-adequate representation. ...
Military justice is nonexistent when our generals kiss Iraqi backsides. These military generals should open their eyes to the hatred American people are starting to feel toward them for persecuting our heroic enlisted personnel who do the actual fighting. What happened in the University of California, Berkeley, is nothing compared to what will happen if they continue their hatred toward their military enlisted warriors. No one will go in the military.
Patricia Walker
Fallbrook
I-15 is a racetrack
As a rebuttal to Mike Cowan's letter to the editor http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/09/10/opinion/letters/9_9_0721_36_27.txt”>(Letters, Sept. 10, 2007) on my letter: I would like to point out that Cowan is right, I was talking about Interstate 15 and not Highway 76. Three points to Mr. Cowan, who obviously has no clue what he is talking about. Has Mr. Cowan ever heard of a turbo-charger? Check the Internet, there are 1700 hp Vipers out there.
Second point, no, I do not normally drive a sports car to work -- it is a '94 Viper with 10,000 actual miles on it. Do the math and, finally, I was driving on the second lane from the right southbound. No, I was not in the passing lane; however, whatever lane, the speed limit is still 70 mph. I-15 is a racetrack and seems very few people obey the speed laws. Mr. Cowan should find another topic to explore or check his facts before he writes.
Jeff Lassle
Fallbrook
Please explain it to me
What a great idea! President Bush and his Environmental Protection Agency will not require an overpolluting power plant to fix its pollution problem. Instead, to meet its pollution requirements, it may purchase credits from a less-polluting plant. Yes, that is a great idea, one that I shall attempt to use here in my own neighborhood since I have been accused of not maintaining my home as required by the association's CCRs. I realize that the old rust-covered bus my son left in my front yard has a lot of weeds growing around it; that my boarded-up front window has not been replaced; that I never finished painting my house (especially the front); and that I don't take my trash containers in for a day or two after pickup. I will get around to it, but some things do take time.
In contrast, my neighbor has been charged with leaves beneath his deciduous tree. Now, if I go down and rake his leaves, will that give me credit for tidiness?
Harry Titus
Oceanside
GOP venom directed at Democrats
Regarding the extraordinary venom from GOP candidates: Has the RNC or the media denounced this sort of rhetoric? Not that I know of, and I have heard nothing about the media contacting the RNC or asking other Republicans what they had to say about it either. I've been waiting to see if anyone would condemn this extraordinary venom.
McCain has said: “Democrats will surrender to the enemy, wave the white flag. The terrorists will win.” Now Romney has charged that “a Democratic victory in the presidential race will turn America over to the terrorists.” There are a lot of Democrats fighting and dying in Bush's wars. How do you think they feel from this rhetoric about them?
As a Democrat who lost two brothers in WWII, I resent and am outraged with this kind of talk. My brothers were Democrats and they truly loved our country. No one was more patriotic than they were. The media and Republicans are dead silent on this. What a despicable way to speak of fellow Americans and get away with it! And I, for one, hope it brings about the ruination of this silent Republican Party for some time to come. Decency and competitiveness are not mutually exclusive.
Joanne Goodwin
Oceanside
Blame the Democrats, not conservatives
It's time to educate misguided know-it-alls like Garth Hansen about the truth http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/opinion/letters/2_8_0817_35_27.txt”>(Letters, Feb. 9). It was Clinton who allowed the Enron disaster and Osama bin Laden to escape, not Bush or Cheney. It was the Louisiana Democrat governor and New Orleans mayor who failed Katrina victims. Bush announced before the storm hit that federal help was available. However, by law that help could not be given unless asked for by the governor and mayor. It was the governor who sat on her thumbs while the mayor allowed hundreds of buses to sit idle while citizens in and around New Orleans waited for evacuation, and some died.
Only a complete idiot fails to realize it was the greed of banks, loan brokers and buyers who created the subprime problem, not Bush, who had virtually no control over those loans. Although the economy suffered as a result, how do you spin that into a Bush failure? Lenders who made the loans and people who bought more than they could afford now want Bush to bail them out.
Democrats have been in control of Congress for some time now and have failed to do anything constructive for America. Maybe it's time to give full control to conservatives so things can be set straight, at least until the next round of Democrat control.
Ernest Sparks
Vista
Stick to berating parties, not ideologies
Garth Hansen has been an outstanding contributor of left-wing propaganda to this paper for many years http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/opinion/letters/2_8_0817_35_27.txt”>(Letters, Feb. 9). I truly enjoy his twisted logic and self-righteous indignation.
However, Hansen has finally gone over the top citing conservatives as a failure at everything they have tried, thus causing a “crushing blow” to our economy, our culture and our world standing. Really, Garth? In doing this, Garth has departed from his usual rant on Republicans and now wants to include all conservatives, many who may be Democrats, Libertarians and Independents. Heck, I even know some conservative Green Party members.
In fact, two modern-era Democrat presidents were moderately conservative in their views: Roosevelt and Kennedy. Even President Clinton had a conservative side.
Garth should stick to berating the Republicans. Picking on people's ideology is not for the faint of heart. I should know. I pick on liberals and socialists all the time. It takes time and research. You can't just reach out and grab a war here, a hurricane there. You have to back up your claims with some facts when you attack ideologies. Otherwise, you'll find yourself in the minor leagues with the Crews brothers, Parish and Pulse.
Mike Kania
Carlsbad
Hypocrisy in the White House
Your Sunday, Feb. 10 edition had an article about President Bush denouncing Congress for putting earmarks into legislation being passed through Congress (“Bush's budget seeks money for pet projects”). He says it is wrong and wasteful for Congress to do, while this president, buried deep in his budget, had a request for $330 million to deal with plant pests. He thinks he's in Congress, too. He sought $800,000 for the Neosho Natural Fish Hatchery in Missouri; $1.5 million for a waterway in Louisiana named after Sen. Johnston, D-La.; and $894,000 for an air traffic control tower in Kalamazoo, Mich. Now here is a hypocrite for you.
Aaron Burstein
Lake San Marcos
Give park rangers a chance
We have a new park ranger program. These guys watch the parks and have an interpretive method for dealing with park issues. Spend the money on that program. Hire a couple of extra part timers and you are in business. This is not a police problem and certainly not for a contract guard. Use the rangers for this problem, for juvenile problems and after hours problems. When that fails, the cops can handle it. I prefer rangers who have a genuine concern over all park issues. Give them a chance to work this out. - David Douglas
Temecula
Exxon profits help drive economy
I'm no fan of Big Oil and its impact on the planet, but to equate the financial success of Exxon-Mobil to the languid state of our economy as Rhett Miller does (Letters, Feb. 6) is simply backwards. Let's have a quick economics recap. What does an American firm's success mean for the economy? For one, shareholders of XOM (Exxon-Mobil) benefit. No, not just S-Class driving, La Jolla denizens, but pension funds, college-savings funds and likely anyone who has a 401(k) as XOM is the largest stock (by market capitalization) and widely, widely held. In fact, CalPERS' largest holding is XOM -- are we going to decry our local teachers witnessing an increase in their nest eggs' value?
More profits for Exxon also mean more taxes paid to Uncle Sam, enabling the government to spend more. As this happens, individuals will now have more to spend (in economic patois, "consumption"), thereby strengthening other sectors of the economy. Considering that our economy's robustness is measured by Gross Domestic Product (defined as consumption + government spending + business spending + net exports), Exxon's success is inarguably good for the overall economy. Instead of lamenting Exxon's profits, Mr. Miller can always partake ... by buying stock!
John Matthews
Escondido
Negative political ads disappoint Scout
I am a 12-year-old Boy Scout from Troop 524. In scouting we learn to be trustworthy, courteous, kind and reverent.
The last few weeks I have been seeing many negative ads about the candidates. Each one has been tearing down their rivals. I'm very disappointed in their actions. This is not what the scouting principles teach.
Because of all the backbiting, people are not focused on what the future president will do for the country. The bitter arguments have no practical consequences. I want a president with principles and a person of conviction and loyalty to the people and the country. I want to see less backbiting over trivial things and more answers to our problems. I will be very happy when I can turn on the TV and the attack ads are gone. Negative campaigning turns me off as a future voter.
Christopher Ries
Murrieta
Vote-rigging scandal?
Well, Super Tuesday is over and for some of us, it's a scandal.
A friend called me on Tuesday reporting that he and his wife, registered Republicans for 20 years were not allowed to vote in the primary. He polled some of his neighbors and some of them had also been denied. Their preferences had been changed from registered Republicans to independents or something else that disallowed them from voting in the Republican Primary.
They were not offered provisional ballots.
By Wednesday morning, stories of this vote rigging scandal were rampant.
It is as though someone hacked into Registrar databases in several counties and made changes to voter registrations. It is plausible that using data from whatever sources, someone analyzed and determined likely conservative voters and proceeded to alter Registrar databases in order to preclude them from voting.
I have mused about Temecula resident and columnist Paul Jacobs' beating the drum long and loudly over electronic voting computer vulnerability to tampering. He has successfully caused the Riverside Registrar to mothball its computers and go to a paper ballot. It seems that he both had a point and missed a point: Computer voting is apparently not fail-safe. And, registrar computers are indeed proven to be vulnerable.
California Republican Party Chairman Ron Nehring needs to hear from disenfranchised Republican voters and to learn who did this, and to rectify this. Call him at (916) 448-9496. Nehring needs to make sure that someone ends up in the hoosegow.
Jim Horn
Sun City
Former member, Riverside Republican Party Central Committee
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Home sales tumble, inventory rockets
Readers respond to our Feb. 13 story about how home inventory across North County ballooned in January, increasing the downward pressure on sales prices and sending the county further into a market that favors buyers, according to a report released Tuesday by the North San Diego County Association of Realtors.
No customers
john: When will a realtor ever figure out the simple fact that after this last price surge they have no customer base. Sure we said "How could anybody afford a home here?" so the funny financing was developed. Well that was it, it's over now, so if you don't qualify for a 500K loan with 20% down, see ya. Build them, but who will buy?
Wrong increases
Mary: Stop issuing building permits. Start issuing 50-year mortgages. The former will help the high inventory problem and the latter will enable more buyers to purchase. To qualify, I bought my first home with a 40-year mortgage. It lowered the mortgage enough so I could swing the deal.
Far to fall
Stan: Ten years ago, under traditional lending standards, only the richest could afford a $500,000 house. Now that banks are returning to stricter, more sane, lending standards, most people will only qualify for a $200,000 loan. Prices still have a long way to fall.
Look on bright side
Optimist: Shame on the North County Times for an inflammatory title on this story. Why not: "It's a good time to buy. Prices and interest rates are lower than ever." Instead the NC Times is irresponsible and beats the drum of pessimism and defeat. Shame!
Scientists: Mead, Powell dry by 2021
Readers respond to our Feb. 13 story about a report released Tuesday by two Scripps Institute of Oceanography researchers showing that Lake Powell and Lake Mead, the massive Colorado River reservoirs that help keep Southern California wet, could run dry by 2021.
We come second
michael a: Real estate developers first, citizens second. Ignoring these drought warnings is like ignoring the earthquake risk in the LA basin. It's stupid. But I guess it makes sense from the politician's point of view. To prepare for an "empty" Lake Mead would mean an immediate halt to all new building permits. And local politicians get a lot of their money from real estate developers. Better to let people suffer in the future than to prepare for a disaster now. Typical conservative politician.
Getting warm here?
Concerned-1: Wow, what's next? NCT headline: "World to End Tomorrow!" And great picture, the guy standing in front of a big picture of Earth with red and yellow all over North America. Hmm, do you think it could be global warming? It's great fodder for posters like Michael. I do believe global warming is going to kill us, but it won't have anything to do with the temperature of Earth.
Denial
That river in Egypt: Just keep on over-watering your desert lawns (and all the concrete). I'm sure the water will materialize out of somewhere! But as long as y'all keep your heads in the sand, you won't see the Colorado drying up anyway.
Called evaporation
Steve: The idea that global warming will reduce rainfall is backwards. Global warming will actually increase rainfall because it causes the oceans to warm up. Global warming is supposed to increase the "El Nino" effect, not reverse. The desert conditions we have in SoCal are caused by colder ocean temperatures, leading to reduced rainfall.
Target nixes plans for second Escondido store
Readers respond to our Feb. 13 story about Escondido city officials saying that four months after submitting plans for a 140,000-square-foot store off East Valley Parkway, Target Corp. has abruptly withdrawn its application for the project.
Bad neighborhood
Robert24 : It probably wasn't the actual cost of the store that changed their mind as much as the annual cost of graffiti clean up and missing shopping carts that would have had to budgeted in ...
Undesirable neighbors
vcguy: The article ignores the obvious. Why would major stores like Target or Wal-Mart want to expand among all the tattoo parlors, 99 cent stores and buildings with graffiti on East Valley Parkway?
New plan
K: They should consider a mixed use project of some kind. Smaller stores and apartments above them? Even a larger store could work with the right design. Another large strip mall by itself is not going to improve that neighborhood, regardless of who eventually occupies it.
Scientists: Mead, Powell dry by 2021
Readers responded to an article Wednesday discussing the rapidly diminishing water supply in the Colorado River basin:
Please explain
Sensationalism!=Science: First: A 50:50 chance, in scientific terms is the definition of "We don't know." Anyone who makes a press release about that is not a scientist, but an activist. Second: the NWS has a hard time predicting the weather two weeks hence -- please explain how predictions for the next four years are to be believed? ...
Great picture
Concerned-1: Wow, what's next? NCT headline: "World to End Tomorrow!" And great picture, the guy standing in front of a big picture of Earth with red and yellow all over North America. Hmmm, do you think it could be global warming? ...
Getting colder
George: Don't be fooled by the Democrats. The planet is global cooling, not warming. It is getting colder each winter.
Heads in the sand
That river in Egypt: Just keep on overwatering your desert lawns (and all the concrete). I'm sure the water will materialize out of somewhere. But as long as y'all keep your heads in the sand, you won't see the Colorado drying up anyway.
Mother Earth fights back
"Mission accomplished!" Very exciting: These are very exciting times, biblical perhaps. Nothing can save us from ourselves. If current childbirth rates continue to soar, Mother Earth will have to fight back in the form of weather-related catastrophes & disease brought on by these conditions.
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Bad news, scout wrote on Feb 13, 2008 8:39 PM:Our 12 year old boy scout is appalled by the negative political advertising. Good for him. Sadly, it's time for him to look at his elders, the adults of our society. These ads exist for one reason and one reason only: they work. Yammer as we might about how we hate them, fact is, they work on us. Yes, scout, look at your elders, your heroes and know that they, not the politicians, need to come down a notch or three in your eyes. We love slime and hatred more than truth. I don't think they have a merit badge for that. Be prepared.
Pluto wrote on Feb 13, 2008 8:55 PM: I like Clifford Brown's letter and agree with his important point that the rest of the world has good reason to hate us. We must stop being the latest imperial bully. But I fear Mr. Brown's otherwise excellent letter will be attacked because of a factual inaccuracy. I believe there are 737 U.S. military bases outside the U.S., not 6,000. 737 is bad enough and makes his point. Sustaining them is making our empire bankrupt and making everyone hate us. England had the same problem and finally decided to give up the empire in order to save the country. We must do the same.
Pluto wrote on Feb 13, 2008 9:09 PM: Joanne Godwin's letter is excellent. Mitt Romney's withdrawal speech was a sickening, low-life attack. And Godwin's point is well illustrated by Ernest Sparks, whose partisanship reeks of dishonesty. Yes, Mr. Sparks, Bush & Co let 9-11 happen (read the latest book on the 9-11 Commission report) and has let bin Laden get away for 6+ years. How can our country move forward and solve any problems with such divisive dishonesty?
Pluto wrote on Feb 13, 2008 9:20 PM: Happy Valentine's Day to all you Earthlings! May you each find love to warm the coldest hearts.
DD Wiz wrote on Feb 13, 2008 10:41 PM: The published letter from Ernest Sparks has got to win the best prize for humorous parody this year! They guy should be writing for Leno or Letterman! Or better yet, the Daily Show or Colbert Rapport since they specialize in wildly funny FAKE NEWS!
Imagine! Blaming trying to shift the blame for Enron from fellow oil company crony Bush, who let Ken Lay act as host of his Houston Republican Convention and sit next to him during the energy hearings of 2001, to Bill Clinton who was ridiculed, lampooned and belittled by Lay at every possible opportunity.
Hilarious! Accusing Clinton of letting Bin Laden escape, after his National Security Advisor led the efforts that actually blocked the Y2K planned terror strikes in Los Angeles and caught the suspects, getting insufficient publicity in that pre 9/11 era and who gave a huge file on Osama Bin Laden to incoming NSA Condoleezza (Oil Tanker) Rice with the warning that it would be her biggest single time-consumer (she promptly put it on a shelf until after 9/11), while :::::::laughing uncontrollably::::::: exonerating Bush who actually HAD Bin Laden cornered at Tora Bora, outsourced the operation to local warlords, and diverted the troops to Iraq so fellow Oil King Bin Laden could safety scamper off to a new hiding place in the mountains of Pakistan.
Incredible! One of the largest multi-state natural disasters in history strikes on a national, not local or regional scale, and Sparks wants to blame local officials just because they are Democrats, even though they had put in requests to mobilize aid resources which were rejected by the bumbler-in-chief at the White House, who said no one could have predicted such an occurrence, though the National Geographic had a major article predicting exactly what happened less than a year before (October 2004, p. 92) and there were numerous Army Corps of Engineering reports long in advance, as well as several much more specific event-related predictions in the several days immediately preceding the tragedy. Sparks further shows his tremendous sense of humor by noting buses sitting idle -- when all the roads were flooded and bridges washed out! Heckuva job, Bushie!
Who says conservatives don't have a sense of humor?
I'm laughing so hard I'm crying. I mean, really, I'm crying!
Snowbird-2 wrote on Feb 14, 2008 1:16 AM:The International Energy Agency scaled back its forecast of precious black gold demand (oil) for CY 2008 due to the projected financial recession in several key countries. It will be partially offset by increases in oil consumption in the Middle East and China. The original forecast was 87,800,000 BARRELS PER DAY and the forecast is now 87,600,000 barrels per day. Actual production during CY 2007 was about 85,500,000 barrels per day. Oil products are essential to maintain our standard of living, our health care, our education system, our national defense, our air travel, our cruise lines, our countries food production and distribution, our asphalt roofing material, our asphalt roads, our plastics, even our synthetic rugs and clothes. No problem, there is a lot more oil in the ground. Go for the black gold!
Another voice wrote on Feb 14, 2008 1:43 AM:The comedy award of the century goes to DDWiz who tries to attack Ernest Sparks clear letter with an obfuscation of words and personal attack. That is the big laugh. You can not tell the writer's strike is over by his letter.
Snowbird-2 wrote on Feb 14, 2008 2:31 AM:I commend the published letter by Ernest Sparks above. Every sentence is right on!
The rebuttal by DD Wiz at 10:41 PM in today’s list is sentence after sentence of stupid nonsense.
He probably knows it too. He just wants to confuse the issues by tossing out phony leftie claims to hurt Bush that make no sense at all. Maybe he just wants to taunt those of us with common sense to get a reaction. He surly knows that dozens of trucks bringing aid ice, and bottled water to New Orleans were turned back by the state patrol acting under orders from the governor. He surely knows that 1000 or 1500 unused school buses could have been used to evacuate the people with no cars. The orders to evacuate were given by the mayor while the roads were still open and thousands of people with cars were leaving. The mayor’s lame excuse was he did not know where to send the buses. If they just went up the highway until they ran out of gas, they would have survived. As to aid for rebuilding, two billion $ were given to state and local officials to oversee the rebuilding very quickly, and months later almost NONE of it was spent or obligated. Some of us suspect these local officials were holding back use until they could figure out how to get big kickbacks from the contractors. An other problem was FEMA did sent a lot of trailers down there to house the people, but local officials would not allow “trailer parks” to be set up. Another problem against swift rebuilding is laws passed by congress against use of Federal Money to rebuild in areas subject to flooding. As far as the levees go they had been built higher and higher for three hundred year on SOFT SILT deposited by the Mississippi River. Bush was told the expected height of the water was not likely to be above a certain level. Some of the levee failure was water under greater pressure because of its height seeped UNDER the levees wall and quickly washed out streams of mud from underneath the steel and concrete walls allowing them to TOPPLE. Not that the flood water level was high enough to flow over causing the tragic flooding. In other places there was some splash over by waves from floodwater that was NOT higher than the wall. This splash-over washed out some of the silt from the outside bases of these other steel and concrete walls allowing them to topple. It is incomprehensible that an educated intelligent person would blame president Bush for the faults of building on silt for the past three hundred years, and for decades of congress of both parties refusing to upgrade the levees to withstand a level five hurricane.
Mr. DD Wiz is ALSO far off base on his often-repeated ridicules account of Bin Laden being cornered at Tora Bora and Bush let him go. This is an utterly stupid comment. We did not have sufficient troops there to go in at that time and place, and few if any knew there way around there among the hundreds of armed and defended caves built during decades of fighting the Soviets. If we had sent our available troops in at that time they would have all been slaughtered and Bin Laden would still have escaped to Pakistan. I suppose DD thinks if we could have sent his hero, John Kerry, over to lead them into battle they would have won. Well, I do not think so! There are several more wrong assertions in DD’s 10:41 PM comments, but it is past my bedtime. If no one else has corrected when I check in tomorrow I will make mention of them.
DD Wiz is wrong again!
Thank you Jim Horn wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:08 AM:I will place the phone number that you provided, first on my list. We will get to the bottom of this yet. The Primary is behind us but the controversy is far from it.
Illumination wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:20 AM:Ah, so Mike America does write letters to the editor! Interesting.
Colbert Report and The Daily Show wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:28 AM:Actually, they are political pundits, and while they are funny, they do use REAL NEWS, because truth is stranger than fiction and art imitates life.
Yokozuna to Pluto wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:56 AM:Thanks for the Valentine greeting. There is actually a waiting list for my heart when I die since its never been used.
Yokozuna to DD @10:41 wrote on Feb 14, 2008 6:37 AM:Be sure and cover your keyboard when crying. We would hate for you to short it out and not be able to post today. On the other hand you usually seem well organized and prepared so you probably have a backup.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 6:44 AM:Sherry Robeson reminds me, speaking of our national debt exceeding $9 trillion.
Some are quick to blame Bush & the Iraq War for our great indebtedness. They are wrong, it is a bunch of “half-truths, distortions and fairy tales” that have erroneously been embraced by the left in order to achieve a political victory, at the cost of American citizens, and taxpayers.
Today, the goverment reported that for the first time senior health care and nursing homes cost the government more than Social Security payments for seniors age 65 and older. The cost of government benefits for seniors soared to a record $27,289 per senior in 2007, that's a 24% increase above the inflation rate since 2000. Medical costs are the biggest reason. It goes to what I was saying yesterday about People in the Medical Industry being expensive. Healthcare is a service industry, People are the single greatest cost, just like in public schools. Average breakdown of labor to to all other costs is about 85-90% being spent on labor/wages, and the rest spent on facilities, electric, water, etc. Of all three major senior programs — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the federal government spent $952 billion in 2007 on elderly benefits alone, up from $601 billion in 2000. As I've said, entitlements are the biggest function of the federal government. And we have not hit the crushing that will come soon, the portion of the U.S. population age 65 and older has been constant at 12% since 2000. The real senior {baby} boom(ers), will start big time in 2011 when the first baby boomers — 79 million people born between 1946 and 1964 — turn 65 and qualify for Medicare health insurance. The oldest baby boomers turn 62 this year and qualify for Social Security at reduced benefits. And just to drive home what we actually spend each & every year in these entitlements, about 35% of the entire federal budget is spent on senior benefits alone, up from 32% in 2004. Think about that last point for one second... We spend 35% of our whole budget on just 40 million of our citizens, out of 300 million. Keep in mind, these are government controled programs were we already tell doctors & hospitals they will only be paid half their normal fees. And finally, nationally we spend about 2.1 trillion every year on our healthcare, both public & private combined. .44 cents of every dollar is government money, that's $1.27 trillion each & every year, of a $2.9 trillion budget. At $3.1, that's $1.36 trillion. Now, please tell me again about how the Iraq War is our biggest financial problem.
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 6:47 AM:The news is reporting that authorities have uncovered an AlQaeda plot to assassinate Philippine president. Chris must in a total state of depression
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 6:49 AM:>>Our 12 year old boy scout is appalled by the negative political advertising.>> Hopefully, his union public school teachers havent forced him to sign his SB777 paper turning him into a girl scout
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 6:51 AM:>>>Happy Valentine's Day>>> My exact sentiments-- Happy VD.
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 6:58 AM:>>>Shortsighted, tax-adverse people in San Diego County need to prepare>>> Gee, another bureaucrat whinig for more money. Just like the teachers, they trick you into thinking the money will be used in the classroom, or on fire equipment. The fact is, it will all go to massively increase salaries, pensions and benefits. We all know the scam-- A year or two before retirement, you hoard all of your sick pay, personal days and vacation days. Then just months before retirement, you are given that big promotion and pay raise. So, your final paycheck is at the next grade, plus all the accrued sick and vacation pay, and that is what your retirement is based on. In other words, you make $10K more in retirement than you made sitting in the fire station 3 months earlier. I can see why you need more money, that scam, when pulled off 5 times a year can get very costly
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:04 AM:>>As a Democrat who lost two brothers in WWII, I resent and am outraged with this kind of talk>> of course you're engaged sir, but step back and tell up what deomocrats have done to help fight the war on terror. They opposed the Patriot Act, they refuse to close the border, They refuse to allow monitoring and discovery of sleeper cells, they wont Bush harshly interrogae prisoners, they disclose to the terrorists all the new methods Bush is using to monitor the terrorists, and they oppose all of Bush's data-mining and and electronic spying on terrorists. So be outraged all you want, your buddies are of no use in the war on terror, in fact, they are nothing more than obstructionists
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:04 AM:I think Clifford Brown as veered into something here. Since the decade of Clinton & the so-called "Peace Dividend", we are down nearly 500,000 troops. Want to know where Clinton had his theoretical surplus? Look at his budgets. He cut the military spending to balance his budgets. Now, Yes, I know.. the Republican Congress at that time thought we had beaten the Soviets, peace was everywhere, and Yes, we could and should cut down the cost of military spending in order to achieve a balanced budget. Great thinking, right?
No longer would we be required to fight a two-front war at two different places in the world, we could rely on a smaller, lighter, faster, quick reaction force. That was Rumsfeld's job when he took over the Pentagon. Fine and dandy, right? Wrong! We quickly began to close military bases inside the US, combine them where possible, cut back on buying of technical assets like air tankers, etc. What we didn't do, was cut back on defending other countries, like Germany, & Japan.
Where are the regular troops? They are overseas defending those countries who could & SHOULD defend themselves.
Some have been there for over 58 years.
What has this allowed them to do? Well... they have universal healthcare, and other massive entitlement schemes. We are supplimenting their way of life!
By them not having to deploy a siz of military to protect and defend themselves, we have created their welfare states. Whether [Some of] these countries see us as a warmongering country and want us out, is besides the point. Like all welfare recipients, they don't even bother with even a faint thought of the cost, cause they don't pay it. WE DO! It's like a kid living at home with Mommy & Daddy. He get's his first job, and all of his money is sent on his car, while Mommy washes his clothes, and Daddy brings home milk everyday. The leftists love to talk about "Our Friend's." Yes, they are the best friends money can buy.
DD's not wrong wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:21 AM:We saw the method during the campaigns of 2000 & 2004. Bush, with his military record, got his devotees to believe that it was Gore and Kerry who were the military slackers. Then he got his devotees to believe that even though Clinton's report about Bin Laden had been sitting on Bush's desk, 9-11 was all and only about Clinton. It became a standard way of doing business, all made possible by the hungers and low IQs of the devotees. Now, 8 years later, with Pakistan/Afghanistan deteriorating, al Qaeda at full strength, and our forces bogged down for decades to come in the irrelevant Iraq, the Bush devotees insist their guy has made us safe and that we'd be even safer were it not for the liberals. Go figure.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:22 AM:While I somewhat agree with Dennis Schwander, he is wearing his liberalism on his sleeve. And it's showing.
He says: "It can, and will, happen here." I agree completely, and who ya gonna call? Nobody, that's who. At least for the first 7-15 days, according to the Southern California Regional Response Plan. It is incumbent upon each & every citizen to plan, and prepare for disasters. The left loves to poke at Bush for what happened at Katrina, as if they could and would have done a better job. Hardly. That is a fallacy you really need to NOT buy into, that someone will come and save you when the Big One hits. They won't for some period of time, and you need to prepare to survive on your own, until these first responders can begin to operate. They won't be bringing food or water in to you, they'll be putting out fires, and evacuating people from dangerous areas. You gotta think about what will happen, what will I do when my water don't come out of the faucet? No lights. No heat. How much food & water do I have on hand? I would encourage you to think about buying a weapon of some sort. No telling what will happen after several days of unprepared people, mostly urbanites, who will not be ready, and might just want some of yours.
As to being shortsighted, & tax-adverse, I don't really have a problem in paying more in taxes if I can be assured it will actually be spend on first responders, and preparation. In the last Proposition Vista passed, they played up the fact that part of that funding would go to build & man additional fire departments, but the other 2/3 were going to build a new city hall, and improve the Moonlight Bowl. Those last two, are hardly priorities. And they did it with a sales tax, not a general property tax. A very bad funding idea. When the time comes to reset the tax back down to 7.75%, they will then come out with the scare tactics about losing fire fighters as the means to keep the extortion going.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:39 AM:If they came in legally, like all good want-to-be Americans should, then I suspect we would not see what Fredi Avalos describes as the: "...tide of hatred toward Latinos." He's more wrong than he knows about most Americans, they just want people to do the right thing, and obey the laws. Nothing wrong with asking people to obey the laws, nothing racist about that. Yeah, I know.. we have pockets of lunatics who will suspect their own neighbor for whatever reason, but they are not the norm. Most law abiding Americans don't care where you came from, what color your skin is, or whether you got here by train, boat, plane or walked. We just don't care. What we care about is obeying the law. We are all required to obey the laws, and so should all immigrants who want to be Americans, or at least work here. And please don't give me this pap about our system being broken. It works every time it's tried. Try it. It is slow, I'll grant you that. But slow does not mean broken, it means it takes time. God knows how many hours I have wasted at other government offices. It's the American way to wait in government lines to be served. Get with the program. And finally, how can you ever say that you
deserve to be an American when you won't follow the rules by which we all have to live? Unless you consider the idea that good Americans, are also identity thiefs. The issue is obeying the law, not what some nut case thinks.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:47 AM:Ah... don't worry about that Jeff Lassle. So, I-15 is a racetrack.. for now. The lib's have a plan to fix it, ok? So, Listen up... shhhhhhhh it's a secret.
They plan to bring back the Yugo.
If the car does work, it won't go fast.
Feel better now?
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:51 AM:>>> If current childbirth rates continue to soar, Mother Earth will have to fight back in the form of weather-related catastrophes & disease brought on by these conditions.>>>> That commercial brought to you especially by Planned Patenthood, in particular, their abortion & stem cell division
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:53 AM:Man! You must not get out too much, eh?
Harry Titus?
Why are you only blaming President Bush and his Environmental Protection Agency?
That's the exact same plan the Dem's have in mind, in addition to carbon trading schemes, carbon taxes, and oh yes.. before I forget.. another gas tax. In fact, if you actually did just a little investigation, you would find Al Gore is already selling them. To himself, of course, but that is THE Plan. They won't actually reduce pollution, they'll just charge more for it. By the way, any word yet on that new national Forest building planted by Al Gore?
El Guero wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:02 AM: I'm in complete agreement with Clifford Brown about U.S. military bases overseas. Brown exhorts us to "Vote for someone who promises to do this (bring our troops and jobs home and reunite families), to restore the U.S. image and stay out of other countries' affairs!" (Ron Paul) I can't think of anyone among the current crop of presidential candidates who would advocate doing such a thing. (Ron Paul). Sadly, voters will select either Clinton or McCain, neither of whom even hints at doing any such thing, and I don't think Obama, if elected, has the huevos to try it either. That leaves someone whom the American electorate would never vote for because "he can't win." Any guesses?
El Guero wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:04 AM: By the way, I would like to compliment Mr. Brown on all his many wonderful albums for Blue Note. "Brownie Eyes" has always been one of my favorites!
esteban wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:10 AM:Conservatives shouldn't get all worked up when the libs blast us for being the cause of all the world's ills. Every sane person knows deep down that the libs have wreaked havoc in our country and overseas. If it makes them feel better to call us names, so be it. When they lay their heads down at night, they know THEY are the problem. I know some libs actually believe the filth they spew, and they are the insane ones.
Vista Granny wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:11 AM:Ron's rant about health care and other costs of keeping seniors alive leaves out an important fact when citing the percentage of our budget spent on these folks. The truth is that social security and medicare are indeed thrown into the general budget -- but so is all that mmoney collected from working folk in the form of FICA taxes. So, if you remove one, you must remove the other, and doing so would probably NOT leave enough to pay for all that military spending. But then, Ron loves half truths. Oh, fooey!! Why did I read what Ron wrote anyway? I planned not to do so. Big mistake.
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:15 AM:The news is reporting that doctors are perform a new procedure: 'earlobe rejuvenation. Now that a certain group has convinced the judges that sex chanes operations are a constitutional right and must be covered in all San Francisco and Sacramento healthcare plans, can earlobe rejuvenation recovery be far behind (as experimental cancer therapies remain uncovered by HMO's)
Pretending wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:19 AM: Kudos to Snowbird-2 @2:31am for pretending that DD's 10:41 post makes no sense. That's a good way to deal with such a barrage of facts. And what about Chuck @6:47am, pretending that Chris would like AQ to assassinate the Philippine President? Where is that coming from? Aren't there enough real differences to discuss without making up such rubbish?
A revelation! wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:19 AM:Thanks for telling us that "good Americans" never break the law, Ron. So let's see. All of you who had a drink prior to age 21, bad Americans. Speeders or stop sign runners? undeserving Americans. Fudgers on your income taxes? Unpatriotic slime. Ever inhale from a bong? You oughta be deported! So the commander in chief who wiretaps without warrants and tortures people...just one of the crowd. So why DO we single out the immigrants?
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:19 AM:>>A friend called me on Tuesday reporting that he and his wife, registered Republicans for 20 years were not allowed to vote in the primary>> What do you expect. The Attorney General and Secretary of State and Ahnulds chief of staff are all flaming liberals. Their entire goal is be sure the hoards of illegals continue to vote and that republicans are not allowed to vote.
To Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:27 AM:NICE THEORY!!! Unfortunately for Latino citizens, those Latinos who are here "legally" this is not the case. I agree with Fredi Avalos there is a tide of hatred being directed at all Latinos. Legal status makes no difference to Ron and his icky friends. Ron constantly defends the Minutemen and he and they do prejudge the brown folks without knowing if they are here legally. They are of the shoot first ask questions later. They shoot their mouth off with racial epithets and slurs without knowing if these folks are here "legally or illegally." He and his friends verbally attack anyone who opposes them without considering the fact that those people have the right to free speech and free expression just as much as they do, but once again Ron has to attempt to defend his own prejudice mindset. Thank you Ms. Avalos for a great letter.
esteban wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:46 AM:Yesterday the anti American Democratic controlled Congress just said waterboarding is torture and cannot be used. Can you feel it coming? Which city will get it first? NYC? LA? Chicago? Your home town? Good job Al Queda...er, I mean Democrats. Is your hatred of Bush so intense that you will sacrifice national security just to "show him"?
DD Wiz wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:19 AM: The post from "Snowbird-2" (2:31am) shows he is trying his best to also audition for most outrageous comedy routine. Sadly, though, he cannot be considered a serious contender since the competition can only consider original material and his entry is plagiarized directly from the talking points of Big Oil Bullies' propaganda, history truth deniers who invent their own alternative realities (such as denying that Bush's CUT AND RUN diversion of resources from Al Qaeda to Iraq and outsourcing the Tora Bora operations aren't what allowed long-time Bush family oil ally Osama to escape) and more inventions of alternative physics and engineering with his postulating of alternative theories about rebuilding New Orleans which have nothing to do with preventive engineering that had been recommended for years BEFORE the event (you know, that ol' LIBERAL philosophy of proactive efforts to PREVENT problems which are cheaper and more effective than REACTIVE measures after disasters occur).
Nothing new or original here. It does get points for creativity, imagination, raw chutzpah (expecting anyone to actually believe it) and audacious nerve, however those points must be awarded to the Neocons who actually concocted them, not to desperate puppets who parrot them, like "Snowbird-2" who proves he is just another poor, pathetic IGNORANT victim of the DUMBING DOWN of science education in the CONSERVATIVE WAR AGAINST SCIENCE by the Big Oil Bullies and pushers of our addiction to non-renewable FINITE FILTHY FOSSIL FUELS purchased from dependence on terrorists and dictators.
And, by the way, "Snowbird-2" continues his ongoing evasion of a simple answer to a simple question: why is he so invested in defending the propaganda of Big Oil Bully pushers of FILTHY FOSSIL FUELS? What is his direct involvement with these pushers of our addiction to non-renewable FINITE FILTHY FOSSIL FUELS purchased from dependence on terrorists and dictators?
DD Wiz wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:20 AM: The post from "Ron" (7:53am) continues his efforts to emulate the Bush / Neocon talking points of character assassination, making up phone allegations that they refuse to back up, and throwing as much mud as they can wallow in. Yet again, he repeats the accusation that Al Gore is "selling" "carbon trading schemes" etc., but offers no specifics.
Al Gore has shown that there are excellent opportunities for green entrepreneurship (that going green doesn't have to mean living poorly or giving up excellent opportunities for sharing the American dream), while winning an Emmy, an Oscar, a Nobel Peace Prize, successfully producing books, an award-winning cable TV series and an award-winning documentary, as well as helping establish a non-profit foundation for environmental advocacy.
"Ron" tries to look at this and extrapolate some kind of nefarious dishonesty, though even in his creative invention of his own alternative universe of facts, never offers anything specific. Hmmm. Wonder why. I suppose if anything specific actually existed, "Ron" would be the first to jump all over it, but all he has are these vague inventions of character assassination.
Oh well, just "Ron" being "Ron" -- no impostor.
If he's trying out for that most outrageous comedy award, he's not even close. His effort is neither convincing nor funny, plus the old "make up your own facts" is routine and everyone is onto it.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:20 AM:It's a political campaign MAN! Geez, I wish some people would spend just a little time and read some of the speeches, or even the newspapers from our country's history. You think we tear each other up today? Relax, it's hyperbole, rhetoric, and hype. What is far more interesting to me, personally, are the Democrat venom directed at Democrats. You know... these are the people who have said they pride themselves on intelligent conversations on the issues, and yet... what we are witnessing is a free for all. A no holds barred fight, mud slinging, lies, rumors, and yes.. just a hint of racism.
From the Party who says they don't see color?! Yet, every time I turnon my TV set, I hear about the Black vote, the Older White Women vote, the Single Mom vote, and yes... the Latino vote. Talk about separating Americans. It's part of the strategy. And it's OK?!!
That's why Obamaman has taken off in the Democrat polls, and at the ballot box. He's trying to not talk about it, he's attempting to bring people together, at least rhetorically. Behind the scenes might be different, I'm sure it is by campaign managers and pollsters. But his message is about unity, unlike the Clinton message in which their front man - Bill, took several liberties with the truth, shall we say... and she is plummenting like a rock.
Now...
As to what McCain has said: “Democrats will surrender to the enemy, wave the white flag. The terrorists will win.” Or what Romney has charged that “a Democratic victory in the presidential race will turn America over to the terrorists.”
Are you in some kind of denial or something. I know what these Democrats are saying NOW, but look at what they have said. Both Barack & Hillary intend to stay in Iraq until 2013. I know, and you should know they are playing to the liberal base to win the Party nomination NOW, but never forget what they have said about staying, at least until 2013. Further, if you as a leader intend to withdraw from a battle, you will reap the perceived weakness that withdraw produces. Terrorists don't believe in compromise, they believe in winning, they believe in killing the enemy, which is us. If they have to leave their own homelands to achieve the victory, they will do it. As shown by 9/11. Never forget, that for the entire time Bill Clinton was our President, we literally had our own teeth kicked in by attacks. We took it, and we took it, and we took it. Launched a couple of missiles, a boxer's jab if you will, only to have these freaks come at us again directly.
Bush came in, unwilling to continue to "swat at flies", he saw the absolute futility of continuing to hunt & peck. A massing movement of Islamic hatred had to be met head-on. Talking to them wasn't gonna do it, cause if it could have, Clinton would have secured the peace by diplomatic means. Clinton spent his time trying to maintain the status quo, and that is exactly what the Baker report wanted, to secure the status quo.
I find it truly amazing that Democrats are willing to throw away a tried and true Democratic President method of securing a Democracy as we have done in Germany & Japan, by FDR & Truman. Followed on by occupations which have lasted for some 58 years. The Japanese Parliment didn't even meet for the first 5 years after their defeat. We helped to rebuild those countries, and they are today successful. McCain is simplying stating the obvious, if we have been in both Germany & Japan for more than 58 years, Iraq might take a bit longer because of who surrounds it.
If we elect someone who does make the withdraw, and leaves Iraq to fend for themselves, I say: Hunker down. Cause they are still gunning for us.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:28 AM:Can I use that line, Mike Kania? ..."Otherwise, you'll find yourself in the minor leagues with the Crews brothers, Parish and Pulse."...
I like that.. Minor Leagues.
Remember, letters we admire. LOL
To Revelation!!!! wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:32 AM:So True, so True. It alarms me that people like Ron want to criminalize people that they don't know by pointing out their crime, and covering up for crimes committed by Americans as okay because after they are legal. What is going on here!!! Look out American's sometimes the hand is quicker than the eye. Don't get caught up in their lie.
Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:36 AM:You are so funny!!! Why were your friends not allowed to vote? Has that right be taken away from them because they committed a crime? I think their is more to the story than you are saying, Chuck but that is what you seem to do best....you knowly spread lies and half truths. Illegals can't vote. Perhaps you saw lots of Mexicans at the voting polls so of course in your way of thinking they were all illegals voting. These must be the same illegals you see in the waiting rooms at OUR hospitals, right. You are so ridiculous.
To Avalos wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:39 AM:I feel for you. You compare people being upset about the effects of illegal immigration and you broaden it to people "attacking" Latinos. What a joke! Go back to brainwashing kids because your rhetoric doesn't work with adults!!
DD Wiz wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:44 AM: The published letter from Dennis Schwander, a retired Fire Captain, is noteworthy in how it reflects the LIBERAL strategy of practively PREVENTING problems, when they are small and manageable and cheaper and can be completely eliminated, instead of the CONSERVATIVE approach, which is waiting until tragedy occurs, when the problem is drastic and terrible and GINORMOUS and it costs a lot more to try to clean up and can't be completely eradicated anyway.
I guess the conservatives never heard about "a stitch in time saves nine" or little things like that.
No matter what the issue, conservatives are short-sighted and want to cut upfront costs when they are small, and end up getting stuck with huge bills for cleanup later. Examples:
Liberals support expanding free universal education, short-sighted conservatives want to cut education, and instead get stuck paying for more prisons, law enforcement, courts, jails and the drag on the economy of a less educated and less educated workforce.
Liberals support universal health care, where dollars go directly from public funding to private, entrepreneurial health care providers (doctors, clinics, hospitals) without the exorbitant costs for underswriting and profiteering of insurance company middlemen that drive up health care costs and provide profit-driven incentives to provide LESS health care, while short-sighted conservatives support profiteering by underwriters and insurance stockholders and forcing people to use emergency rooms for routine medical care.
Liberals support investing in adequate infrastructure and emergency resources in advance (as Captain Scwander writes to support), while short-sighted conservatives try to clean up disasters after they occur using incompetent crony bureaucrats.
Liberals support adequate investigation and attention to actual valid intelligence and successfully prevent terror attacks while short-sighted conservatives ignore relevant information in advance, respond after tragedy hits, then divert those belated and inadequate resources to irrelevant alternative targets.
Liberals support anticipating and preventing environmental disaster, short-sighted conservatives accuse scientists with sold information of being "fear mongering chicken littles" just as they did in New Orleans before the hurricanes hit.
Liberals anticipate and prevent problems; short-sighted conservatives wait until easily solved small annoyances fester and escalate into horrible tragedies, then wonder why Liberals can do so much and still run surplus budgets, while short-sighted conservatives do so little and run enormous deficits (in addition to the greed and outright pocketing of government funds for profiteering cronies).
hr7o7 wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:50 AM:Chuck wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:19 AM: Its a Republican primary. The people in question need to address their problem to them. You did not have a problem voting did you Chuckie? I am sure that if you did, you would have made sure that it did not happen a second time. Liberals are not responsible for lack of intelligence of Republicans. They are.
DD Wiz wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:57 AM: The published letter from Harry Titus asks for help in explaining carbon-offset credits.
I'm not sure if he reads these web comments, but I'll try my best.
Let's say a company produces pollution at their plant that exceeds legal levels. It would cost a million dollars to bring their plant in compliance. However, the same amount of environmental clean up could be produced by spending only a hundred thousand to get the same effect at a different location, so to encourage compliance they can do the equivalent amount of cleanup for a fraction of the cost, or ten times the cleanup for the same cost.
And yes, if there are more leaves in front of your neighbor's house and, for whatever reason he is unable to do it himself (absent, disabled, whatever; and for argument's sake let's say his leaves are more visible to the neighborhood than yours), if you clean up more leaves at his house and don't clean up yours because you ran out of time (or just got tired), then the net gain is still better than having done less with more effort (or expense). Yes, it would be better if all the leaves got raked (or if all the pollution got cleaned up), but cleaning up more leaves that are more visible is still preferable to cleaning up less.
That is the concept behind using carbon offsets as incentives for legitimate alternative pollution cleanup. Of course, as with any program, there has to be oversight (regulation!) to ensure that companies or individuals are doing what they actually say they are doing, and there should be vigorous penalties for fraud when they don't. But if someone (such as "Ron" at 7:53am) is going to make allegations that any specific program is fraudulent, he needs to show two things:
1 - that the program is actually a carbon offset program
2 - that it is not actually delivering what it promises to.
esteban wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:00 AM:DDWIZ, can you please shorten your rants?
To: To Avalos wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:01 AM:Why do you have to be so rude!! You proved what those people who say you verbally attack anyone who opposes your point of view. Of course you want to shush Fredi Avalos and squelch her right to free speech because she makes some good points and you just can't handle it. Is she brainwashing kids? I hope she is so we can have more free thinkers as our future leaders. I must say you say her "rhetoric does not work on adults" obviously it worked on you. She made you take time out of your busy day to comment. Good job Fredi Avalos.
DD Wiz wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:08 AM: The published letter from Mike Kania shows his blend of utter ignorance and confusion.
He is self-contradictory and sees the issue backwards, typical of a conservative.
First, he admits that he attacks people's ideologies rather than their parties, lumping liberals together with socialists, confirming his inability to distinguish between these economic opposites (one favors free markets with sufficient oversight to prevent harm to others, such as workers, consumers and the shared environment and infrastructure, and the other favoring centrally-managed and government owned productive resources without the built-in incentives of entrepreneurial capitalism).
Then he says that this does not work; that we should attack parties, not ideologies.
But that is backward. AS KANIA HIMSELF ADMITS, parties are associations or affiliations. While they often reflect a core ideological base (Democrats being more liberal, Republicans more conservative) there are indeed differing undercurrents within parties, such that some more liberal Republicans might be more liberal than some conservative Democrats).
Actual public policy develops out of ideology, with the party being the mechanism for organizing those who tend to have allied ideological interests. The point of ideology and public policy is what politics is all about, and the level at which issues should be engaged. In typical conservative fashion, this is actually what Kania admits he tries to do, even though he tells others to do as he says, not as he does.
On a side note, I have personal acquaintance with many of the liberals who write letters for publication and/or participate in this forum. I do not know Garth Gregory Hansen (though his letter says he lives in the same town), but I have often read and enjoyed his letters and find him intelligent and articulate.
Ron wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:08 AM:Just couldn't help yourself? Could ya Vista Granny @8:11 AM? I know, my posts are literally filled with facts, it's actually hard NOT to read them.
And I see you just couldn't help yourself again with this little goodie: "...costs of keeping seniors alive..."
That's right, another scare tactic. Oh my god, if the government won't take care of me, how will I ever make it! Does not sound to me like were are throwing old people out into the streets, does it you? Granny?!
Do you disagree with the Controller General David Walker when he says that we spend nearly 60% of our entire budget on entitlements? And by the end of the next President's term we will be spending almost 70%? I think today's news brings what I

