Love TIP wrote on Mar 23, 2008 1:57 AM:My son goes to TIP and I can tell you that this is only a very small handful of negative parents all with 5th grade children that are unhappy because there will be no TIP Jr. High for their children to attend when they are finished with elementary school after next year. The remaining 99.9 percent of parents are very satisfied with the school, teachers, and administration. Without Mike and Debbie Hazelton there would be no TIP. Keep up the good work!

LOVE TIP TOO! wrote on Mar 23, 2008 8:56 AM:Staff writer Barbara Henry is correct that it is a deepening divide. It is not a small handful of negative parents with 5th grade children. Teachers have placed themselves in the middle of administration issues. Supportive parents have been coached by administration and teachers to tell others "If you don't like TIP..LEAVE!" Unfortunately, children have read these messages that have been painted on cars at TIP and they have begun to ask questions. We need to considered the negative spillover to TIP students.

ESCONative wrote on Mar 23, 2008 8:57 AM:I've been involved with several charter school start-ups. A two year period is about the average time for problems to arise. I hope that all involved remember two important things:

1) If the program is working for the children, do whatever you need to do to keep it going. In these days of budget cuts and emphasis on testing, children of above-average intelligence are woefully shortchanged in the public schools.

2) I don't know how your school is set up, but in most cases the board can replace the administration. If you choose this option, do it quickly. If you let things drag on, the program will suffer.

PUT THE KIDS FIRST!!!

I Know smartt kids wrote on Mar 23, 2008 10:07 AM:If the parents of these children were gifted they would have their children in private school to start with, not trying reinvent the wheel all over again!!!

Not so Gifted after all wrote on Mar 23, 2008 10:38 AM:Good point made by Gary Larson, spokesman for the California Charter Schools Association. He said, "I could rattle off a half a dozen to a dozen" excellent charter schools run by husband-wife teams.”

I say, I can rattle off many names myself some who are linked to The California Charter Academy (CCA) with CEO, C. Steven Cox ran what was the state’s largest charter school network, enrolling thousands of students at dozens of campuses, but according to investigators, he routinely looted millions from the public schools to ENRICH his FRIENDS and FAMILY, leading to the schools’ collapse last summer, according to a state audit. During the charter school's tenure, it ran into many legal confrontations with the California Department of Education (CDE).

Read the CDE own link into the audit. http://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr05/yr05rel43.asp

But my TIP friends don’t dispare yet the California Charter Schools Association has their nose so deep in the California Legislative and Assembly members pockets and ever more visible with their defiance in recognizing the deep rooted charter problems.

Charter schools mesmerize even our new Attorney General Jerry Brown, (yes the Charter School Association lobbyist are there too.) TIP critics may refer to as “nepotism.” The California Attorney General refers to such practices as CONFLICT of INTERESTS and INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIPS.

At first glance the charter school petition submitted by the Hazelton’s was very similar as the one submitted by the Guajome Park Academy. It appears that the same problems plague these charter schools once the parents start to wise up and see that these charter schools are not all about CHILDREN nor EDUCATION but rather making big bucks in an unregulated industry.

Neither the California State Legislation, State Board of Education nor the California Department of Education has any monitoring, enforcement or control of these charter schools.

Right on wrote on Mar 23, 2008 10:57 AM:"Not so Gifted after all" you have it right. The terms "CONFLICT of INTERESTS" and "INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIPS" seem not exist in the Tip world. Do they use the same dictionary that my kids use at their school?

The Irony of it All wrote on Mar 23, 2008 12:59 PM:We have a child currently enrolled at one of the Encinitas public schools so many of the TIP parents run from.

Our daughter is working way above grade level (gosh, gifted maybe?)and each day she tells us how happy she is and how much she loves school. She has a classroom full of students working at different levels - you may scoff at differentiation, but by golly, I'm volunteering in that classroom and I see it working.

Maybe our daughter lucked out with a truly talented teacher. Regardless, we adore our little school and we'd welcome TIP families back to their local (non charter) public schools anytime....

Dig deeper wrote on Mar 23, 2008 5:15 PM:TIP parents, please do your homework and educate yourself! Read the Cortez Hill Acdemey audit. It is a public document. I quote "the direcor/principal approved and received a pay increae for himself without board approval." Find out why Las Banderas Academy had to be closed under the same leadership. I'm sure you don't want the same to happen to you.

No Transperancy or Accountability wrote on Mar 23, 2008 7:14 PM:Dig deeper- what is the link to the Cortez Academy audit? I am familiar with Las Banderas and as memory serves me correct, it was connected to the same charter people discussed in the article. It sounds like different charter schools but the founders and the charters administrations go back to the Guajome Park Academy and sister SIATech that branched out of Guajome Park Academy. I wish the North County Times would get an AP reporter to track down the charter schools that branched out of Guajome Park Academy and their founders. The original charter grantee the Vista Unified School District is clueless as to how many charter schools and their exact locations branched out of the same theory, administration and founders. Up to now they have branched out throughout the state of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Florida, etc.

How about taking the challenge North County Times?

Concerned parent wrote on Mar 24, 2008 9:25 AM:Dig Deeper .... do you have a link to the audit you mention? What foundation do you have for the allegations you throw out?

Taking the challenge wrote on Mar 24, 2008 10:21 AM:Perhaps if the NC Times does investigate in depth, the LA Times might step up? Today's article in the LA Times mentions the Cortez Hills issue. I just think it is critical to get all the facts in the open so well informed decisions can be made.

Adult Supervision wrote on Mar 24, 2008 10:27 AM:Gosh, there's a *real conspiracy* here! Someone get Oliver Stone's people on the phone RIGHT NOW so we can all play the telephone game!

TIP and - most importantly - its students are doing just fine. If you believe otherwise, go spend some time in any classroom there. You will see children of a wide range of inate abilities learning to think (not just regurgitate facts).

There are always those disenfranchised who cannot help but froth at the mouth. It's a spectacle alright, but not to be confused with truth or doing well by doing good.

TIP Supporter wrote on Mar 24, 2008 10:40 AM:It's really a shame that this small group of extremely vocal parents are ruining it for the large group of us who LOVE TIP! The ironic part is that those who are destroying TIP are the very parents who are fighting so hard for a TIP middle school. It just doesn't make sense. We have 2 children at TIP and we love it (no administrator or teacher told me to say that!)

Way to Go ??? wrote on Mar 24, 2008 11:58 AM:For the ones try to cause some dameges before they leave the school, what kind of messages you teach your children. Remember, your kids will leave you one day, this is what they learn.

Julie wrote on Mar 24, 2008 12:00 PM:
Concerned parent- the audits are available through the San Diego County Office of Education through a Public Records Request the cost is minimal about .10 per copy.

Deeply concerned wrote on Mar 24, 2008 12:40 PM:It's not just 5th grade parents. I have a 1st grader at TIP and it feels like everyone is talking about these concerns. It's distressing and I hope that we can get back on track soon.

tip top school? wrote on Mar 24, 2008 12:41 PM:OK. Show me a public school of this size or a private school of this size with 2 administrators!! No matter how much you "LOVE TIP", wouldn't you rather see that money go to the kids? Think of how it could be spent. Let's agree on ONE administrator next year, and the other can be one of the 2 teachers that TIP will be hiring. If they are so talented, let's get them in the classroom with our kids! It is unheard of to have that percentage of the budget go to administration for such a small school. All you TIP lovers, get your heads out of the clouds and take a look at the finances and the ratio of money going to administrators in relation to how much is actually going into classrooms. If you want the school to survive, you can't be in debt!

open your eyes wrote on Mar 24, 2008 1:13 PM:I agree with TIP TOP. Of course we all love and want TIP to survive, but we can't turn a blind eye on what is going on with the finances. Maybe both administrators could go into the classrooms next year as teachers, and we could hire someone with a lot of school administration experience to lead TIP. I would hope that the administrators are, at this point, thinking about what is best for the school, and not what is best for their personal bank account.

Let's Get Somethings Right wrote on Mar 24, 2008 2:03 PM:First, the district did and does have a Gifted program. It is not extensive though as the state does not provide very much money for it. The Hazelton's chose Encinitas, not because it did not have a GATE program, they chose it because there was money here. This is also why they are now trying to open a charter school is Palos Verdes... more money. Let's also not forget the biggest issue with this charter - it drains money out of our district.... valuable money and resources that the school district could use for personal, training, curriculum, etc. Let's do this. Let's stop this charter, have the children and the money come back the district and then do fundraising through EEF to create a fabulous GATE program. If you stop paying the Hazleton's $200,000 in salaries and put it towards a GATE program, well then we will really have something then. These parents who have worked tirelessly to open this school and raise money are amazing and they would do a great job raising money for an in-district GATE program. We could all be happy then.

smart art wrote on Mar 24, 2008 2:23 PM:LOVE can solve all things. Let's try to get along, hug an administrator, and bring some goodies to our teachers to show how much we care. I can even post a recipe or two if anyone is interested.

from Los Angeles wrote on Mar 24, 2008 2:42 PM:I am a parent who lives in the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District. TIP is currently trying to open a charter school in our district next year. I don't know if this is good or bad, or whether your school is good or bad. What I can tell you is that on their petition, 6 of your current teachers (based on your website) have signed the petition saying that they are "teachers who are meaningfully interested teaching in the charter school." If the PV charter is approved, and these teachers are being truthful, then a large chunk of your staff won't be in Encinitas next year.

Read much? wrote on Mar 24, 2008 3:21 PM:Has anyone actually read the LA Times article? If so, it is clear that more than home made baked goods are in order to save the day here.

Time for honesty wrote on Mar 24, 2008 4:17 PM:This has become an unfortunate and divisive debate and much of this could have been avoided if the issues were addressed openly and honestly. It is disheartening that the school leadership cannot provide honest answers to seemingly simple questions. Example, claiming TIP curriculum is not ready for middle school education yet the PV charter including grades K-8 is an obvious disparity in facts. Do an internet search on the recent LA Times article for proof. Teachers and administrators signing agreements to go to both the LA and PV charters (leaving Encinitas) are another troubling example of dishonesty, at least two communities are not being told the truth. Ignorance may be bliss but it is contrary to good education.

Concerned parent wrote on Mar 24, 2008 5:39 PM:Love and Care

TIP was created by group of people with love children and care about education. The staffs and teachers put their hearts and souls into the school. Our administrators encourage open speech for both parents and students at the school. I have two boys attending TIP and this is the second year. The teachers are like angels for my children. They learn to think outside of the box and respect others’ opinions. They have not been happier in their lives. All the TIP parents should realize that our children are the only reason we are here in TIP. We should resolve the differences on our opinions with our love for our children in mind.

CharterStarter wrote on Mar 24, 2008 6:28 PM:Hey,sounds like a bummer deal with TIP Encinitas. Anyone want to start a new charter?

Giftness or stupidity wrote on Mar 24, 2008 7:02 PM:
Read much?- some of these ports redefine GIFTNESS maybe IGNORANCE is a BLISS would be more like it.

Some Parents Agree wrote on Mar 24, 2008 7:25 PM:Time for honesty: I am a TIP parent who agrees with you. We Love TIP, we love the way they teach, we love the positive classroom environment but we also must be able to trust our administrators. It might be time for a little honesty.

Let your voices be heard wrote on Mar 24, 2008 7:42 PM:
Parents need to express their concerns about charter school disasters and NEPOTISM to the members of the California legislation. This very issue will be addressed on April 4th 2008.

Contact the California State Sssembly Chair Gene Mullin; members Joe Coto, Loni Hancock, Betty Karnett and Julia Brownley. Google their names or google California State Assembly Committee on Education for a phone directory or email address.

Encinitas Homeowner wrote on Mar 25, 2008 12:01 AM:I live in the area of the school, and never once was I asked whether I agreed to its location. It has doubled traffic on a privately-maintained street, by about 600 cars per day. Parents are regularly discourteous to local residents when picking up and dropping off, often speeding on the street, veering around other cars or parking in local driveways while waiting for their kids (are you reading, Encinitas Sheriff's Department?). TIP is located on a privately maintained culdesac, yet not at all responsible for its upkeep (despite being funded by my property taxes). The school has suggested one way to fix the traffic problem would be to seize land and push the road through to Requeza. The neighborhood and the school system was fine before they showed up. TIP is about growing a business, not about neighborly relations or improving the community.

Laura wrote on Mar 25, 2008 7:42 AM:Sorry, -Homeowner- but again these charter schools are unregulated and neither cities, counties, states or any one wants to touch charter schools. The Charter School Associations spends too much money on lobbyist in Sacramento (nationally too.) They are much worst than the teachers unions they adamantly criticize. Besides our own representative Mark Wyland pays dumb. They lobby to oppose any form of regulations on charter schools. Just imagine what it would be like to drive on the roads with no stop signs, stop lights, right or left turn signals or any directional signs or laws. It would be like disasters waiting to happen and one can be assure that many disastrous things are happening in these charter schools but they are not being reported. Yes, neither CDE, the State Board of Education, the California Legislators, the SDCOE, any city nor state has any JURISDICTIONAL ENFORCEMENT in these charter schools. Once again because they are an UNREGULATED BUSINESS and they like it that way!

To Encinitas Homeowner wrote on Mar 25, 2008 8:06 AM:Whine, whine, whine. If you have an issue with it, take it to the Encinitas school board. They put the school there.

Also, if it weren't for parents at TIP your precious little private cul-de-sac would still be full of pot-holes created by Ocean Knoll. It was repaired at parent's cost against the advice of the city.

I cannot believe the willingness of people to look for the worst in a good situation, especially from axe-grinders who couldn't get their children in the school. You all had your chance and you passed.

Stop with the whining already.

To whine, whine, whine wrote on Mar 25, 2008 8:40 AM:You seem to have alot of time on your hands. Time to fix potholes, time to annoy the home owners with valid complaints and from what I can see from your posts, time to harrass the only parents with half a brain who are trying to help your school be safe from your precious administrators. And by the way, I think you missed the biggest pot hole out there holding up the stop and go sign trying to direct traffic!

If your situation is in fact so good, why are you having to spend so much time defending it?

To Some Parents Agree wrote on Mar 25, 2008 9:24 AM:I am an Encinitas parent who is possibly interested in TIP. Is there anything the current and prospective parents are doing to put some pressure on the administration to respond to the accusations?

stevie wrote on Mar 25, 2008 10:48 AM:OK all you tipsters. So, what is the solution? Get rid of Big Mike? But then, who will direct traffic? It would be impossible to find another "traffic director" for the tiny pay of $95,000 a year.

patti wrote on Mar 25, 2008 10:53 AM:Interested parent, pressure HAS been put on the administration to respond, but basically we are told that if we aren't happy, we should leave TIP. So, we could leave, but then all the ignorant dreamy-eyed parents would allow this unethical situation to continue for the LOVE of their kids. Yes, the curriculum and most (not all) teachers are good, but that doesn't mean people should not be insisting on funds being used properly and for the good of all kids.

Bottom Liner wrote on Mar 25, 2008 11:59 AM:What EXACTLY are the allegations?

To Whine, Whine, Whine wrote on Mar 25, 2008 12:15 PM:You illustrate the point perfectly. The local community was never asked about TIP nor even notified that the school was going in. It just showed up one day. When we raise legitimate questions about the effect on the community or use of our tax dollars, we are told to 'shut up and quit whining' by people who don't even live in the neighborhood. This is bullying, not social accountability or good business. TIP professes to teach children critical thinking, so why do they have a problem with taxpayers doing the same?

wait and see wrote on Mar 25, 2008 1:29 PM:Well, from what I read in the article, if TIP can't get the 3% reserve for emergencies, then Encinitas USD has a legitimate reason to shut them down. I hope they are looking into this. And, how is TIP planning on weathering the upcoming 10% budget cut? Has anything been said about that?

To Whine, Whine, Whine wrote on Mar 25, 2008 2:35 PM:It just showed up one day? Come now...

Just because you weren't paying attention to your local school board activities prior to TIP's opening doesn't mean that it wasn't public information. Go back and check the board meeting agendas from 2006. There was PLENTY of notice.

Yes, some of the money that would go to the EUSD is being given to TIP but that is well within the Prop 39 statutes.

No one is telling you to shut up... Just say something that has merit.

Some of you need to some research wrote on Mar 25, 2008 3:27 PM:To wait and see: The fact of the matter is that the school is required to have 1% in reserves. The EUSD arbitrarily raised the amount to 3% and has no basis from which to do so. TIP is, in fact, exceeding the required reserve percentage.

All the blathering on this blog page is ridiculous. So much complaining and so little knowledge.

ESCONative wrote on Mar 25, 2008 4:05 PM:To Let's Get Somethings Right:

Yes, charter schools do take money from the local school district, BUT, it's money that should be spent on a particular student. If all these students returned to the public schools that money would be divided up for other programs, not for a GATES program. Most likely the money would be used for under-achieving students so the district wouldn't be sanctioned by the state for lack of progress.

It's too bad people can't let parents decide for themselves what's best for their particular child. Charter schools are not taking any money other than what should be spent on those students attending the charter school.

Who needs to do the research?? wrote on Mar 25, 2008 4:07 PM:EUSD wants to raise their oversight fee from 1% to 3%. This is entirely separate from the 3% reserves that TIP should maintain. Talk about blathering!

Concerned taxpayer wrote on Mar 25, 2008 4:17 PM:The Hazeltons seem to be under the illusion that they don't need to openly and honestly address the issues that cast a shadow over TIP and their leadership--namely the necessity of Mike's $95,000 apparent part-time position, the relationship between (and oversight of) TIP Academy and TIP Education, the fact that TIP teachers stated their intention to work at TIP PV and LA (what about their commitment to Encinitas?), their inability to proceed with a junior high in Encinitas while petitioning for K-8 in PV, LA, Mike's questionable (perhaps illegal?) activities at other charters .... It goes on and on.
I am not a TIP parent, but I'm a taxpayer, resident and parent in Encinitas. TIP is not a private school. It's funded by taxpayer dollars. The concerns that have been raised are legitimate, and the Hazeltons have an obligation to the taxpayers and their parents, who fund their salaries and the school, to address them openly and honestly. If they don't, the Encinitas school board must pull their charter. They can open a fee-based private school, answer to no one, and run it anyway they want. At this point, why should they? The taxpayer gravy train is too easy.

To concerned taxpayer wrote on Mar 25, 2008 5:49 PM:I think you have finally solved the TIP mystery. They must not realize that they are a public school! School administrators at private schools must not need to address valid concerns like this. Perhaps you could send them an email to notify them that they work at a public school after all?

Concerned taxpayer wrote on Mar 25, 2008 6:30 PM:Private schools that don't address valid concerns don't last long. The money walks away.

Another concerned taxpayer wrote on Mar 25, 2008 11:12 PM:If the Hazeltons have nothing to hide they would address the allegations. Instead they hide behind the teachers and those parents that don't want to face the facts. You can run but you can't hide.

Is TIP suing or being sued? wrote on Mar 25, 2008 11:12 PM:Does anyone have info on the 2 cases of litigation that TIP is involved in, or how I could find the public records of the cases?

Public Information wrote on Mar 26, 2008 6:48 AM:To is TIP suing: Call Rob Berkowitz, TIP parent and possibly the lawyer used in negotiations for the different boards and administrators at TIP. He might not know what conflict of interest is, but he might know what cases they are currently involved in.

Esteban wrote on Mar 26, 2008 7:43 AM:Hey to all you complainers here somebody at my kids school told me to read this web page. What a joke you all complain like spoil kids. you are always wlecome back at you original home school with my chidlren you left us. We well still except you even you left us for that gifted school. No parents complane at our school like all you do. How do you get time off of you work to to do so much meetings.

Mary wrote on Mar 26, 2008 8:46 AM:........and all this with taxpayer money. Why would an exceptional school district like Encinitas Elementary School District allow such financial impact on their budget. If these parents want a private school environment for their children - send them to private school and stop using public funds to create a private school atmosphere for YOUR children.
It's absurd that these administrators are being paid twice - once for school administration and then for the company which they founded! This should not be allowed - and also, what kind of backbone does their board have... making decisions not on behalf of the children, but for the benefit of the Hazeltons who are in it for profit!

to "Not so Gifted after all" wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:03 AM:So Cox is one name... You said you could rattle off many. Well who are the rest?

Esteban? wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:17 AM:Are you sure you are not a student in Teheri's class?

To Mary wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:55 AM:What EVIDENCE do you have that the Hazeltons are in this for profit? How do you know that their decisions are NOT on behalf of the children? What do really know about them AT ALL?

If you believe in something, what better way to spread the wealth of knowledge than by opening more schools that teach using TIP's methods? This, in itself, would be a full-time job. It isn't like these people would run the school for ever anyway. Promote from within if they leave. Not a big deal.

As for the parents, maybe they cannot afford private school. It isn't their fault that the Encinitas schools are deficient in their minds. Take that up with Mr. King.

Maybe these people should have just asked for an inter-district transfer to Carlsbad where the schools are good.

Bottom Liner wrote on Mar 26, 2008 11:38 AM:I ask again, what EXACTLY are the allegations?

Public ed supporter wrote on Mar 26, 2008 11:53 AM:Schools are good? What community do you live in? We feed into high schools that have a 92% rate of students entering a four year college.
Elementary school is supposed to be about community and varied experience that lead to enthusiastic learners.
Obviously you are out of touch.

To Esteban: wrote on Mar 26, 2008 12:45 PM:Esteban, if you are a product of Encinitas schools, then you are the prime example why I wouldn't want my kids there. Maybe you should enroll in TIP to get some communication skills and writing lessons.

Good Question wrote on Mar 26, 2008 2:16 PM:Good question, Bottom Liner! Seems like no one can answer you.

Skeptical wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:31 PM:TIP parents, I hear a lot about better education at TIP and am interested in how that is demonstrated through results. From what I can tell, the school’s standardized test scores are middle-of-the pack for the district. Are there other quantifiable results that you are using to prove that your children are getting better educations? I see postings about liking school but if that were criteria for success than Disneyland would be the place to send your kids. Likeable teachers are important but there are a lot of good, likeable, caring teachers in non-charter schools. So what makes Theory into Practice better, what data proves the theory? In an increasingly competitive world it is important that our children are able to compete with their peers from around the globe in areas like mathematics, science, etc. Is TIP creating the foundation for this success and can it be proven?

Love It…Won’t Leave It! wrote on Mar 26, 2008 6:14 PM:Posts with the EXACT allegations are not being posted because they are not making it through the NC Times filter. Parents need to explore the facts on their own, not just take what they are told by the administration as truth, question, research, discuss, question again.

Things every parent should do:


* Contact EUSD and request clarification on TIP’s current financial status with EUSD & the county.

* Contact the county and request the records for any complaint against TIP by EUSD or by any other entity. This must be provided to you via the freedom of information act.

* Contact the California Department Of Education and request status on their on-going investigation.

* Obtain a public record copy of the Cortez Hills Academy audit from SDUSD, which raises concerns about the way TIP’s COO managed that school’s financials, including a self-directed unauthorized pay raise. TIP’s administration has been unwilling to address these concerns in an open forum. Why?

* Read the TIP bylaws on the TIP web site and familiarize yourself with who sits on the board. Pay particular attention to the clauses on how the board should be made-up regarding employees, spouses of employees, etc.

* Read the proposed MOU and study what conflict of interest and self-dealing in business mean.

* Google charter law and understand the reasons for revocation of a charter.

* Google the IRS charter guidelines and look into the current status of TIP Academy and TIP Education.

Leadership and financial management start at the top with administration making decisions on when and where public funds are to be used. The top two reason charter schools fail are financial and administrative, reference data via the Center for Education Reform in Washington, DC. Your children are depending on you to do your own investigation!

Laura wrote on Mar 26, 2008 6:36 PM:Is TIP suing or being sued- I don’t know of any recent cases but I know that former charger closures like Las Banderas had some legal problems or so. Some of the TIP founders are being sued while they were at Guajome Park as far as recent claims you can google San Diego Courts and search the index I did not find any there.

There may be cases moving through and waiting while they submit a California Tort Claim (no tort claim needs to be submitted for charter schools.) Also you can check PACER to search in the San Diego Federal Court and if you are not a subscriber to pacer you can go down to UC legal library or Vista law library or the San Diego Law library.

If the EUSD is being sued along with TIP you may ask for a copy of the tort claim it is public record.

Some parents agree wrote on Mar 26, 2008 8:38 PM:Dear Skeptical,
No, there is probably nothing quantifiable that sets TIP apart from other excellent Encinitas schools. It's just that some students get immeasurably bored in a traditional setting and something more specific to their own way of learning or their own interest might just set their hearts and minds soaring. Their curiousity is somehow sparked and they want to learn and they want to go to school. It is not something to be calculated. For a parent who wants their child to love to learn, it is a joy.

Dig deeper wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:58 PM:Addition to Love It..Won't Leave It...also check the board minutes for Colton(CJUSD) regarding SHU-Las Banderas Academy of which Hazelton was the CEO. Check the dates 1/13/05, 2/3/05, 2/17/05, 3/10/05, 3/4/05, 4/21/05 and 5/26/05. You can follow the closure of the school and why is was closed. It was finally closed for fiscal and credentialing problems. Please do your homework. There is a history of mismanagement here.

Is TIP suing or being sued? wrote on Mar 26, 2008 10:38 PM:TIP's Board of Directors Agenda for March 17, 2008, states that "Pending Legal Litigation, Case #1 and Case #2" would be discussed in closed session. A good investigative reporter is needed here to sort out fact from speculation.

Brown Act wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:26 AM:Don't they have to make part of the information regarding closed session public?

Clarity wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:49 AM:There are no current legal actions filed against TIP in state court perhaps in federal court. However if these 2 cases were filed as TORT CLAIMS I would get another lawyer that is familiar with current law. There is no requirement to file a “tort claim,” neither in state or federal court against charter schools. This is evident by the California Supreme Court’s rulings in Wells v. One2One Learning Foundation.

In the Wells, the California Supreme Court ruled that the charter schools were not “governmental entities,” for purposes of the California False Claims Act and “did not fit comfortably within any of the categories defined, for purposes of the TCA, as ‘local public entities.’”

As a result of the Wells,
On January 10, 2007, the California Court of Appeals withdrew its July 24, 2006
opinion stating that minor Courtney Knapp was required to file a tort claim before filing her case in court.
In the new ruing of January 10, 2007 minor Courtney Knapp was NOT required to file a TORT CLAIM. Knapp v. Palisades Charter High School,

Therefore, plaintiff minor Courtney Knapp in her case was NOT required to file written claims (TORT CLAIM) with the governmental agency before filing a lawsuit under the TCA against the charter school. However, if minor Courtney Knapp had also filed suit against the chartering district she would have be required to file a governmental tort claim with the school district against the school district only but NOT with the charter school.

It sounds like someone needs to get a second legal opinion and file appropriatly.

Parent wrote on Mar 27, 2008 2:50 PM:People are complaining that TIP is taking money away from other Encinitas schools. My child attends TIP (and is very happy there by the way) and parents with children in other Encinitas schools should be happy that my child as well as the other students at TIP aren't taking seats and using resources in those other schools. I too pay taxes in Encinitas and am glad that there is an alternative to overcrowding the schools. Give the school a chance. And when it comes to the location, it wasn't decided on by TIP. It was chosen by the the school district. Take up your location problems with them and leave the school alone about it. All this bickering is distracting from the main purpose here - EDUCATION. Let the school do its job - TEACHING. Our kids are going to suffer from all this negativity. Anyone is allowed to start a charter school. If you think you can do better then do it. Leave the kids alone!

Let the kids learn!!! wrote on Mar 27, 2008 4:17 PM:FYI - You don't have to be gifted to attend TIP. Any child can try to get in. All children are just treated as if they are and are not brought down to the level of the slowest child as schools are dictated to do. For the person who wrote that parents with gifted children should have their children in Private Schools, well, we all pay taxes and have a right to a good education. Not all people can afford private schools. We shouldn't have to rely on Private schools for a good education. I was thrilled to have gotten into TIP. I feel like my child is getting a good education. Isn't that a good thing? I don't understand why people aren't giving Tip a chance to make it. Maybe all those complaining just didn't make the lottery. Don't be such sore losers. Give the kids a break.

encinitasmom wrote on Mar 27, 2008 5:38 PM:I was amazed at the rude reponse to Encinitas Homeowner by Whine Whine Whine. Not a good reflection of the mentality and attitude of TIP parents. Feeling entitled much? If the Encinitas Sheriff's dept wants to make back money it's losing on red light cameras, go sit on Melba and Balour at about 8:20 a.m. on any weekday. Ticketing all the cars going 40 MPH on residential streets and rolling through stop signs should make them some money back. Heaven forbid TIP parents should be inconvenienced by other cars and pedestrians. I know this doesn't apply to everyone driving to TIP but unfortunately it's the ones that could care less about others, like Whine Whine Whine, that make a lasting impression.

You are right wrote on Mar 27, 2008 5:38 PM:To Parent. You are right, anyone can start a charter school, but that does not mean that they are qualified to actually run a school. From everything I have ever heard about the Hazelton's, opening a school is about all they are qualified to do.

Re: You are right wrote on Mar 27, 2008 6:58 PM:What is it that you ACTUALLY know about the Hazeltons? What you HEARD about them is most likely a bunch of gossip. I am not claiming to know much of anything about them and their past. Frankly, I don't care. I am pleased with the school and we are lucky to have been selected to attend. They have been working long and hard to make the school a success. All this negativity from people who really don't have a clue about is really going on and who really don't have anything to do with the school should really just find some other cause to dwell on. I believe in Sandra Kaplan's way of teaching - I heard her speak and feel lucky that my child will have an opportunity to learn following her way of teaching. Instead of basing your ideas on "what you heard" maybe you should find out the facts - that is if it really would make a difference to you. If your child isn't in the school, then you really don't have anything to worry about. It is all about the kids and their getting a good education. My tax dollars are being used wisely I believe. We are happy there so why are so many people trying to cause problems? Like I said before, the location of the school was not the choice of the school but they/we are making do. Things could be better - there could be more classrooms provided as promised. Otherwise, we are happy with our teacher and my son is learning. That is all that matters. It is about the kids.

The Kids Aren't Under Attack wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:18 PM:To Parent and Let the Kids Learn:

No one is attacking the children, they're simply questioning the administration's practices. Here's a lesson for your children: It's not o.k. to look the other way at potential corruption. It's good to question your leaders. It's fair to demand transparency and honesty.

I understand parents' desire to have their children in a quality school that differentiates curriculum, but should we all foot the bill for TIP at any cost?

I'm afraid parents are willing to let these charges slide out of fear they'll be forced to return to their neighborhood school. Come on! Demand more. You can be perfectly pleased with what's going on in the classroom, and disgusted with the administrators at the same time. If your loyalty is to your children, then stand up for what's right. If TIP is as good as the parents claim, then push for the school to continue under different administrators. (They don't have a good track record--it's bound to fail under their leadership anyway.)
The teachers are already trained. They're not going to walk out. Where would they go? State budget cuts have given you all some leverage. Use it and root out the corruption!

Some Parents Agree wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:18 PM:Dear Encinitasmom,
You are right. I think we TIP parents need to be more courteous and we need to drive more carefully and slowly through the residential streets. I for one am very sorry to disturb the peaceful neighborhood. Thanks for pointing that out.

To Let the kids learn and Parent wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:41 PM:Given that TIP is a public school the public, all of us who pay for it through our tax dollars, have the right to ask questions about the way it is operated, the people who are operating it, and the education our tax dollars are funding. If you want your kids to go to a school with no public oversight then send them to a private school. Otherwise, suck it up and start proving to the rest of us that the school is operating on the up and up.

To Re You are right wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:48 PM:It is pretty obvious haven’t take the time to discover the facts. You should take your own advice and do a little research on the Hazelton’s, read the posts in this thread, put your biases aside and prove to yourself that you are right – or wrong. Just because you like someone doesn’t mean that they are doing a good job and just because you like what someone says doesn’t mean that you should blindly follow them. None of the complaints have to do with not wanting “the kids” to get a good education; rather, they have to do with administrative concerns. If you really want to make sure TIP is around for your kids you should make the effort to verify it has a solid fiscal foundation.

Excellent wrote on Mar 27, 2008 8:24 PM:Excellent critical thinking skills! "I am not claiming to know much of anything about them and their past. Frankly, I don't care. I am pleased with the school and we are lucky to have been selected to attend. to attend."

It reminds me of another quote I once heard "I am not claiming to know much of anything about Marshall Applewhite or his past. The chocolate pudding is so good here, that I don't care. Besides, I love my purple robe and I LOVE learning all about this really cool comet".

from Los Angeles wrote on Mar 27, 2008 10:09 PM:Many of you that are happy with TIP say that you like how the kids are learning and you like their teachers (which is great!). In a previous post I told you how 6 of your staff (5 teachers and the principal) have certified on a petition that they are intending to teach at the new TIP Academy in PV if it gets approved. If they are telling the truth, then the teachers that you love are leaving Encinitas. And if they aren't being truthful about moving to PV - well, then there is an ethics/honesty problem with these same teachers. I'm not sure that's who I want teaching my kids. If you want to see the petition for TIP PV, look at our district's website (in my previous post). The petition is broken into 3 parts - the teachers signed on the last pages of the section called 'signatures.' TIP sounds good, but it seems like there is something funny going on with the administration.

To Excellent and To Re Are Right wrote on Mar 27, 2008 11:47 PM:First I want to say that I NEVER said I LIKED the Hazeltons. We have had our differences but have worked through them. Despite our differences, we are happy at the school. I do support the school and am giving them the benefit of the doubt at this point because not enough facts have been presented to me. A couple newspaper articles don't guarantee facts and I don't consider the comments here credible enough to place any sort of judgment on these people. I am not blindly following anyone I just think it is pretty horrible how this school is being attacked. The administrators have been working hard to get this school running and despite a few holes in the road - no pun intended - most hurdles have been overcome in time.

NOW- about Excellent's comment: "It reminds me of another quote I once heard 'I am not claiming to know much of anything about Marshall Applewhite or his past. The chocolate pudding is so good here, that I don't care. Besides, I love my purple robe and I LOVE learning all about this really cool comet'."

Are you kidding?? You criticize my critical thinking skills and then admit that this quote comes easily to mind?? I am not ashamed to say I had no idea who the heck this Marshall guy was until I googled him to find out just in case I was missing out on something important. NOT! I just think these comments as well as the uninformed gossip are hurtful and useless. Not constructive in any way whatsoever. I simply don't know all the facts and don't care about the gossip. I am not concerned about their past. I just want them to keep the school running and all this negativity isn't helping the kids.

NCT Please Post wrote on Mar 28, 2008 7:34 AM:AB 1772 (Garcia): Charter schools: conflicts of interest (pushed by the California Charter School Association.)
This Bill is scheduled to be heard by the California Assembly Committee on Education on April 9th 2008.

This bill would rubber stamp charter schools systemic practice to AVOID compliance with a conflict-of-interest policy applicable to ALL PUBLIC AGENCIES in the state of California that receive state and federal funds.

AB 1772 contains the following element initially introduced in two solid paragraphs. Updated to a couple of pages with a lot of mumbo junco to hid the intent of AVOIDANCE of the California Government Codes.

Under section (a) AB 1772 would allow charter schools to have 49% charter school employees working for charter schools and sitting on the Board of Directors, school site counsel, and any other committee in addition to their employment. What AB 1772 means is that the California Charter School Association wants a rubber stamp approval to continue their already systemic clandestine practices.

If you are not happy with the multiple conflicts of interest and incestuous relationships occurring in the charter schools throughout the state than you need to let your voices be heard in Sacramento. Then take action and contact the Members on the Assembly Committee on Education with Jene Mullin as Chair of the commettee.

To "from Los Angeles" wrote on Mar 28, 2008 8:35 AM:The petition states "The petitioners listed below certify that they are teachers who are meaningfully interested [in] teaching in the charter school." I added the "[in]" for clarity.

In this context, a "meaningful interest" would be one of significance and not intention as you stated above. This is standard procedure for bureaucratic documentation such as a petition, so the signatures are essentially meaningless.

One or two of the teachers on the list may actually decide to move to the new school, but TIP has an established connection with the curriculum training of Dr. Kaplan, so there will always be a fresh supply of new talent available to the school if need be.

Given what I have seen with regard to TIP PV, I wouldn't hold your breath about the school getting off the ground there anyway. The people there seem to think that a school is successful if the federally mandated test scores are being achieved. Their score are exemplary. But they don't seem to grasp that there is more to learning than performing on tests. So be it.

WWYD? wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:26 AM:So we have options as parents at TIP. Brush it all under the rug and forget about it, believe that "LOVE can solve all things. Let's try to get along, hug an administrator, and bring some goodies to our teachers to show how much we care"(although the quality of teachers is not an issue), sing kumbaya, eat chocolate pudding, and forget this all happened. On the other hand, it is a fact that TIP is having some financial complications (and yes, sometimes they tend to be growing pains--but we need to make sure they DON'T GET OUT OF HAND). Most of us that are at TIP, regardless of our position, have happy kids, great teachers and want (and NEED) alternatives. This is a public school, not a mom and pops shop, and it is our obligation and right to oversee that everything goes well in our public school. Whether the accusations are true or not, the concerns are valid. I for one hope that TIP has a long and happy life, but the direction which it takes and those managing it is my concern.

"Think like a critic" wrote on Mar 28, 2008 10:37 AM:Here's what we know: Principal is married to the school head honcho, and they are all longtime friends with at least 2 TIP teachers and their husbands. Who do you complain to if you have a problem with the principal or a teacher? TIP's annual budget is about $1.6 million and about $200,000 of that is salary to the Hazeltons(including benefits makes it more like $300,000). The school board (i.e., Mike Hazleton) decide to save money by not buying textbooks. Is this truly based on what's best for the children's education?

teacher signatures wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:12 PM:The Ed code says the petition has to be signed by teachers that "the Charter School estimates WILL BE EMPLOYED at the school during its first year of operation."

In signing that petition those teachers are stating that they WILL BE EMPLOYED at the school next year.

47605. (a) (1) Except as set forth in paragraph (2), a petition for the establishment of a charter school within any school district may be circulated by any one or more persons seeking to establish the charter school. ...
The petition may be submitted to the governing board of the school district for review after either of the following conditions are met:

(A) The petition has been signed by a number of parents or guardians of pupils that is equivalent to at least one-half of the number of pupils that the charter school estimates will enroll in the school for its first year of operation.
(B) The petition has been signed by a number of teachers that is equivalent to at least one-half of the number of teachers that the charter school estimates WILL BE EMPLOYED at the school during its first year of operation.
...
(3) A petition shall include a prominent statement that a signature on the petition means that the parent or guardian is meaningfully interested in having his or her child, or ward, attend the charter school, or in the case of a teacher's signature, means that the teacher is meaningfully interested in teaching at the charter school. The proposed charter shall be attached to the petition.

What to do? wrote on Mar 28, 2008 10:50 PM:Do you think Debbie and Mike are reading all this? If so, Debbie needs to go back to the classroom next year, and Mike can be the head honcho if that is what he desires so much. Anyone want to start a betting pool on what day the school will be closed down by EUSD?

Re: Only time will tell wrote on Mar 29, 2008 6:49 AM:How ironic to be critical of the standard of education when you obviously pay so little attention to spelling and grammar yourself. In particular, when CAPITALIZING words you might want to have some-one else proof-read your work (what does BELLOW average mean anyway???)

Dig deeper wrote on Mar 29, 2008 7:25 AM:Looks like the review for the TIP LA charter has been cancelled. The office of General Counsel investigated and cancelled the petition. You can call the charter school office for LAUSD and check for yourself. I wonder what they found in their investigation? LAUSD is very charter friendly, interesting that they cancelled this one? Perhaps too many of the same teachers signing multiple petitions??? Perhaps more??

Dig deeper wrote on Mar 29, 2008 7:42 AM:Looks like the review for the TIP LA charter has been cancelled. The office of General Counsel investigated and cancelled the petition. You can call the charter school office for LAUSD and check for yourself. I wonder what they found in their investigation? LAUSD is very charter friendly, interesting that they cancelled this one? Perhaps too many of the same teachers signing multiple petitions??? Perhaps more??

Results wrote on Mar 29, 2008 7:46 AM:Only time will tell brings up a good point. However, as you have read in the many posts, most TIP parents are not interested in any track records.

frustrated wrote on Mar 29, 2008 10:08 AM:Don't you understand that we don't care about track records? We only care about our school. Who cares what Mike Hazelton has done in the past. Doesn't everyone deserve a fresh start?

to frustrated wrote on Mar 29, 2008 1:10 PM:Fresh start? It looks like history is reapeating itself? Check to see what is going on with TIP LAUSD...I believe they rejected his proposal, wouldn't even look at after their "investigation". That is happening right now not in the past. How are current test scores? Financial status of school? Perhaps he is a nice guy, but nice guy doesn't always make someone a good administrator. Hmmm maybe the fresh start is not so fresh!

Frustrated wrote on Mar 29, 2008 3:39 PM:I choose to look at our glass as half full. Obviously you are choosing to see only the worst in people. I don't know what the world is coming to with all of this bitterness. LAUSD does not know what they are missing!

Only time will tell wrote on Mar 29, 2008 9:27 PM:Re: Only time will tell—-if you don’t know what “FAR BELLOW AVERAGE” means you may want to find out really quick! Particularly when it is 63% FAR BELLOW AVERAGE.

Your post demonstrates exactly why the former charter school has failed so tragically. The only response educators can come up with is by using reverse psychology and derogatory comments. Case in point based on your post.

My bottom line wrote on Mar 30, 2008 12:11 AM:Bottom line is nobody in their right mind will take their children out of TIP. This school is the best thing that has happened to these kids. The kids are so happy here and are loving to learn. Just ask them. If someone were to leave, their spot would be filled instantly. There are hundreds on the waiting list hoping someone will leave. Where else will our children find a more challenging school? It is just so sad there are a few Encinitas parents that always like to stir up trouble. They love to gossip and create any rumor (the false ones that hurt people they love the best). They are habitual complainers and nothing will ever be perfect for them. It is just standard procedure in a city like Encinitas. Big thanks to Debbie, Mike, the founding teachers, and Dr. Kaplan for creating this school and giving me a better educational option for my child.

My TIP Child has learned something wrote on Mar 30, 2008 8:42 AM:"Mommy, when I grow up I want to be a Charter School Lobbyist. My teacher said you can make lots and lots of money and so many people can get rich. Isn't that great?!"

Fundraiser wrote on Mar 30, 2008 8:47 AM:Hey everybody, please join us next week for a small fundraiser after school. The fundraiser is to help pay for further curriculum development and an upcoming salary increase. Please drive fast and park your big SUV anywhere you would like. We will be serving Kool Aid and chocolate pudding... all you can eat!

Ohhhhh wrote on Mar 30, 2008 8:59 AM:Ohhhhh, I love chocolate pudding and Kool Aid. Sign me up! Yeah for the Hazeltons!

People have left wrote on Mar 30, 2008 9:01 AM:To My bottom line: People have left and will continue to leave. Maybe they are saying the same thing, that no one in their right mind would stay at TIP. Perhaps what they are wondering the most is why their kids now so behind in basic math and grammar skills after leaving TIP.

MIKE wrote on Mar 30, 2008 9:37 AM:Hey, I'm the 100 post! Do I win a prize or get any money?

More fundraising wrote on Mar 30, 2008 3:04 PM:Along with the chocolate pudding and kool-aid, there will also be "CAR WINDOW PAINTING" for a small fee. The following captions can be painted on your minivan window:
1. Hey Mike! Show us the money!
2. We are so in love with TIP, we don't care where the money goes!
or
3. Love will save the day.
Your pick! Come one, come all.

Math wrote on Mar 30, 2008 3:06 PM:How many TIP parents out there REALLY support their math program? Are any of your kids learning skills?? My child will be SO in shock when she enters Jr. High. I'm worried!

love the math wrote on Mar 31, 2008 8:36 AM:My daughter was lost in math until she came to TIP. Now she gets it. I guess it depends on the kid. She's not good at memorization.

Enough is enough wrote on Mar 31, 2008 10:25 AM:Encinitas schools are funded through the property tax of homeowners. TIP enrolls 20% of its students from outside the EUSD district. It's outrageous that we end up footing the bill to educate out-of-district students (especially when our own schools are facing budget/program cuts). The sense of entitlement displayed by some TIP parents and their administration is shameful! If LAUSD and PVUSD found grounds to deny the charter; shouldn't EUSD be seriously looking at anything that would give them cause to revoke this charter? It sure sounds like there are plenty of questionable/unethical/corrupt things happening at this school. Usually where there's smoke, there's fire! Parent groups at our nine district schools should organize and let the district know how we feel about the way in which they spend our tax dollars.

Math is great wrote on Mar 31, 2008 10:41 AM:My son is no longer bored with math at it and is having to really analyze and think about how to solve the math problems.

filter problem wrote on Mar 31, 2008 11:23 AM:It's amazing how much gets filtered out here. I tried to send a link to a pdf that I found while researching these issues. It answers many of the questions concerning Mike (in Mike's favor). It's actually a TIP PV document, but talks a lot about TIP Encinitas.

Not with my money wrote on Mar 31, 2008 12:49 PM:Give the Hazelton's a second chance? Not with my tax dollars. You people need to go to private school and not waste my tax dollars on this experiment!

positive info on Mike wrote on Mar 31, 2008 1:01 PM:If you Google Hazelton Guajome Park, you will find a TIP PV document that answers many of the questions about Mike. I am unable to put the link here as it will not make it through the NC Times filter.

Question for Enough is Enough wrote on Mar 31, 2008 1:31 PM:Where is it documented that PVUSD denied the charter to TIP?

to "Not with my money" wrote on Mar 31, 2008 1:40 PM:Yes, with your money. Not to the Hazeltons though... the children.

The school will be fine. The children are great. The parents are supportive. The teachers are dedicated.

New administration will come anyway... Maybe now is the time.

To Enough is Enough wrote on Mar 31, 2008 1:59 PM:Most out-of-district students do come with funding (just not as much as Encinitas students). Also, EUSD does not pay for the out-of-district kids. You are better off having a Carlsbad kid in an Encinitas school than you are having an Encinitas private school student switch to public school.

Positive Info? wrote on Mar 31, 2008 5:09 PM:To Positive info on Mike: Thanks for the information, but I have more questions now then answers. For example, the way that document reads, they address Mike's involvement by saying he won't be involved in the same way he is at TIP Encinitas. If he should not be involved at TIP PV, why should he be involved in TIP Encinitas? There is no mention of his issues with Cortez Hills Academy either. That document does nothing to clear the smoke in the air. Where there is smoke, there tends to be fire.

More on Mike wrote on Apr 1, 2008 5:29 AM:To Positive Info? They didn't say he shouldn't be involved at TIP PV. They just said he wouldn't, so there was no need to expand further on the question. There was no mention of Cortez Hills Academy because the question wasn't asked.

To "to enough is enough" wrote on Apr 1, 2008 8:34 AM:EUSD most certainly DOES pay for children who come from outside EUSD boundaries. EUSD is a basic aid district therefore any child that comes from another basic aid district (example, Cardiff) brings zero dollars with them to our district. EUSD foots 100% of the bill. The only children that bring any money with them are from non-basic aid districts (example, Carlsbad) and they still only bring 70% of their funding with them. This has been my issue with TIP from the beginning. If TIP has such a long waiting list, as they claim, then they shouldn't need to pull ANY children from outside EUSD boundaries. CA charter law is a mess.

To "to enough is enough" wrote on Apr 1, 2008 10:03 AM:The vast majority of non-EUSD students came from the first year of operation because school simply didn't get enough children from within.

They now give first priority to students from EUSD and almost none of the new students come from outside the district.

EUSD does pay wrote on Apr 1, 2008 11:13 AM:EUSD absolutely pays for out-of-district students! We all need to be informed! The district makes up the shortfall in funding from students coming from Carlsbad, Oceanside, San Marcos and EUSD pays the ENTIRE bill for students coming from Solana Beach, Cardiff, Del Mar, RSF. Parents/taxpayers in Encinitas should be aware of this situation at TIP.

Simple truths wrote on Apr 1, 2008 11:37 AM:"The vast majority of non-EUSD students came from the first year of operation because school simply didn't get enough children from within." Why didn't TIP "simply get enough children from within"? The truth is that EUSD parents with any brains saw the writing on the walls. They avoided the second sailing of the Titanic with the Hazelton's at the helm. That is why your school has so many out of district students.

More Students at TIP wrote on Apr 1, 2008 12:57 PM:Several of my friends have recently had their kids accepted at TIP and apparently there are a lot more. Is TIP getting more facilities at Ocean Knoll? Where are they putting the kids?

To "Simple Truth" wrote on Apr 1, 2008 1:25 PM:Maybe you need to re-read the original post to which you refer. The second statement indicates that very few now come from outside the district.

Can you use your reasoning abilities to determine why that might be?

I'll give you hint: Think waiting list.

what? wrote on Apr 1, 2008 1:49 PM:Actually, Encinitas USD is NOT a basic aid district at this time. If they were, they would not accept ANY transfers from any other district. They may become a basic aid district soon, but they are NOT at this time. Please do your research first!

to What? wrote on Apr 1, 2008 2:52 PM:Currently, EUSD is a Basic Aid District, also known as a Community Funded District. This information is available in the budget section of the EUSD website. Check Quick Facts - 2008-09 State Budget.

Communication concerns wrote on Apr 1, 2008 3:03 PM:I'm thinking about sending my son to TIP but have heard some parents voice concerns about working with the principal. This includes people being told they should leave if they don't agree with silly things like potty policies. I don't want to be in a situation where I can't have a conversation about my child's education with the principal and teachers. Any advice on this, is this concern valid?

to "What?" wrote on Apr 1, 2008 3:06 PM:YOU are the one who needs to do your research! EUSD went to basic aid last year. They do not accept students from other districts, but TIP does. YOU should do your research before posting false information.

To Communication concerns wrote on Apr 1, 2008 3:20 PM:Of course, people have a types of experiences dealing with other people, including principles and teachers so I cannot say that the concerns that you heard are unfounded.

I, however, have had no problems dealing with Mrs. Hazelton or the three teachers that my children have had. I haven't heard anyone I know express those concerns either.

The relationship has been very professional and, in my opinion, always places the student first.

To More Students at TIP wrote on Apr 1, 2008 3:25 PM:I think the mods didn't like my earlier post in answer to your question because I quoted Mr. King directly from his letter to TIP. In it he stated that the EUSD board doesn't believe TIP's enrollment projections for next year. As such the district has no intention of adding new facilities to the TIP campus.

TIP has sent a letter of rebuttal to the district giving their reasons for their projections and their request for more classrooms.

TIP is already at capacity under the current enrollment. You ask a good question. Maybe you should call Mr. King and ask him.

More Students at TIP wrote on Apr 1, 2008 4:13 PM:Thanks for the quick answer. If the school isn't expanding where are the new students going? They can't add more students to a classroom. Is the graduating class so big that it is allowing all the new students?

To More Students at TIP wrote on Apr 1, 2008 4:31 PM:TIP is attempting to get more classrooms from the district.

As I understand it, TIP offered to buy them out of their budget (as they did some from this year because the district didn't believe them last year either), but the district said no to that too.

As a worst case, TIP is looking at the possibility of housing some grades at a different site and also altering the class schedule to accommodate the increase if need be.

The bottom line is that they have the numbers to get the extra classrooms. The question remains as to whether or not the EUSD will comply with their obligation or not.

To More Students at TIP wrote on Apr 1, 2008 5:35 PM:To further complicate things, EUSD is only required to provide facilities for students that would normally attend an EUSD school. They do not need to provide space to children from out of district.

Although interest within EUSD is increasing, there are still siblings of current students who have priority, even if they are from out of district. This is probably why you see that only 30 of the incoming 40 kindergartners are from EUSD.

Also, I believe TIP is adding more classes to some older grade levels for next year. There may not be as much interest in EUSD to transfer an older child.

To prospective parents wrote on Apr 1, 2008 7:31 PM:TIP is going through a lot of adjustments right now. Please consider that if you send your child there, they may have to transfer back to another school later if things don't all work out. With so much turmoil, consider what moving your kid around might do to them. I have a GATE identified child, I am at an EUSD school and I have been very please with what the teachers at this school have done with my child's education. I also enjoy helping out in the classroom which is allowed at my school, but not at TIP.

To TIP Potty Incident wrote on Apr 1, 2008 8:12 PM:That is horrible! How sad for the child. I'm sure the principal wrote up the teacher for that lack of judgement. From what I've heard about Debbie Hazelton she must have felt bad for the child and parents. Hopefully this is an isolated case.

two years and happy wrote on Apr 1, 2008 8:48 PM:I help out in my child’s classroom and have for two years. Each teacher is different and has varying needs for volunteers. Stop spreading gossip.

Planet TIP wrote on Apr 1, 2008 10:00 PM:On planet TIP, teachers don't get reprimanded as they would in the real world. Not even for something as awful as the potty incident. Debbie Hazelton would just tell the parent "if you don't like it, leave". After all her wait list is so long, students are a dime a dozen to her. The parent could always talk to the teacher about the incident, if they waited for their office hours which tend to be the 5th Tuesday of every other month from 3:00 - 3:15.

Two years and happy? wrote on Apr 1, 2008 10:11 PM:Lucky you, I am also on year two and have yet to be "allowed" in the classroom to volunteer. I have also been scolded by the principal for breaching the parent barricade at pick up on several occasions. I am sorry, but when my child is on campus under their care, I have every right to be on campus. Their policies and attitudes towards parents are ridiculous!

to "What?" wrote on Apr 2, 2008 7:08 AM:EUSD doesn't accept transfers from outside the district because of their basic aid status. However, CA charter law allows charter schools to accept students from anywhere they choose no matter what the financial impact on the school district. Look into CA Charter law. It's eye opening to see just how crazy it is.

Enrollment question wrote on Apr 2, 2008 7:35 AM:To "To More Students at TIP": Where did you get your information concerning only 30 of the 40 incoming kindergarteners are EUSD? I can't find that info anywhere.

half day wrote on Apr 2, 2008 8:07 AM:Maybe they are going to take more kids from out of district when they move to a half day kindergarten program next year?

to Enrollment question wrote on Apr 2, 2008 8:12 AM:On TIP's website you can find the initial request for facilities, the offer from EUSD, and a response from TIP.

There is some good information. There certainly is no love lost between EUSD school board and TIP.

To Enrollment Question wrote on Apr 2, 2008 8:19 AM:Please see page 2 of TIP's Response Letter to EUSD which can found on the Current Families page of the TIP Academy website.

All the projection numbers are there.

I don't get it wrote on Apr 2, 2008 5:31 PM:Why would anyone send their children to this school? It is unstable at best and it sounds like a dictatorship rather than a school community. As for me, I will stay put and take my chances at Flora Vista. At least my son's teacher will let him use the bathroom when he needs to go!

All charter schools use the same management style wrote on Apr 2, 2008 9:19 PM:I agree with Planet TIP- when I asked questions about the curriculum and if it was based on the state standards I was asked to leave. I was told, “it was a school of choice,” and that “perhaps the school was not right for my child.”
There was never an opportunity to talk to the teacher and that there were hundreds of students on the waiting list.

Another opinion wrote on Apr 2, 2008 11:56 PM:My experience at TIP has been very positive. The teachers I have interacted with are great and have made themselves available to answer any questions I have had. The kids are happy. I recommend the school.

To "I don't get it" wrote on Apr 3, 2008 7:57 AM:Obviously, based on your comments.

If you base your opinion on the complaints of a single parent, you never will get it.

Out of hand wrote on Apr 3, 2008 9:58 AM:I'm sure there's more to the bathroom story. Every TIP teacher that we have had (4 to this point) has been very loving and accessible. This page has really gotten out of hand. My children love TIP, and so do I.

Flavor? wrote on Apr 3, 2008 12:32 PM:Did you guys go for the grape or the cheery koolaid?

To Flavor wrote on Apr 3, 2008 1:10 PM:I don't think many know what cheery koolaid is. Is that served in the EUSD?

Pudding and Kool-Aid wrote on Apr 3, 2008 3:08 PM:It is Thursday, and I have yet to see the free chocolate pudding and Kool-Aid. Are you having the fundraiser on Friday? Our family love pudding and Kool-Aid. Next time you should have flyers or posters out telling us when and where.

A typo? wrote on Apr 3, 2008 4:41 PM:I'll tell you what is not served in the EUSD.

* Nepotism
* Conflict of interests
* Self-dealing
* Incestuous relationships
* Financial malfeasance
* Brown Act violations
* IRS compliance violations
* Embezzlement

Whether the Kool-Aid you are guzzling down faster than you can type is cheery or cherry flavored, I suggest that you stop drinking it and redirect your scrutiny to the administrators at your school, where it belongs.

Private school anyone? wrote on Apr 3, 2008 6:58 PM:The Encinitas school board, administrators and teachers should skip whatever sub-par continuing ed they now attend, step outside their union-run, one-size-fits all box and visit several private schools throughout the County.
It's an eye-opening experience. Public education is a disaster. At the very least, TIP is shining an unpleasant light on the district's inexcusable deficiencies. Here's to fat property taxes AND elementary school tuition.

To: Private school anyone? wrote on Apr 3, 2008 11:04 PM:Wow, are you angry? Everyone can only speak for themselves and their children, which obviously you are. I am glad for you that TIP is working for you. I am happy that you have found the right fit for you and your family. I do really question the leadership at your school and how charter schools adversely affect Basic Aid Schools, but again that is my opinion and concern. I happen to have 3 GATE identified children, all of which are going through the EUSD school district. I have been very blessed with money in my life that would allow me to send my children to private school. We have made the choice though to send our children to an EUSD school. We have been very happy with the education and experience our children have received in their classrooms. Our children have been challenged with their class work and are happy well rounded individuals. I am a believer in what you put into something, you will get something out of. I'm sure as you do, I spend a great deal of time in and out of school with my children. I am not a victim of any system, I use the system to my advantage. I help out in the classroom. My children are proactive in their work. if I have an issue with something, I let it be known. I am a supporter of EUSD and the education it has provided my children. I have enjoyed working with each teacher and what they have offered my children. I am sorry you are so angry, but again that is just my opinion. Also, can you please explain and/or clarify your statements about inexcusable deficiencies, fat property taxes and elementary school tuition? Thank you.

To All wrote on Apr 3, 2008 11:35 PM:Here are a few words of wisdom from a well known doctor. (come on NC Times, can't this get through the filter?)

I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind.

Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.

The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go.

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

TO: All TIPsters wrote on Apr 4, 2008 12:01 AM:Why are you so angry at everyone? If you LOVE TIP, then just let it be. Love TIP and go forward. Why are you so bitter and angry when someone disagrees, someone wants out or someone has a different opinion than you? If they want out, just let them leave. If you think all is well at your school, then you shouldn't be so worked up about this comment column. It is just a comment column and everyone has a right to an opinion. Really, there are far greater things in this World to worry about. Our worries and frets are quite minuscule compared to others in our World. Remember Tippies, think scholarly.

To Some wrote on Apr 4, 2008 12:26 AM:Some of you are a bunch of spoiled complaining North County folks. We moved here and decided to raise our kids here because of the schools. We have been very pleased with our children's education. Get a grip.

To "TO: All TIPsters" wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:20 AM:Opinions based on lies and half-truths deserve to be called out. If someone is going to come in and make slanderous accusations without even so much as checking it out for themselves, they get what they are asking for.

This is true for any topic. Not just this one.

The anger seems to be coming more from the anti-TIPsters than the TIPsters anyway. Why else are they so determined to belittle those who decided to go there? Having an issue with the Charter school concept is one thing, but calling parents kool-aid drinkers only indicates the lack of respect outsiders have for those who were looking for something different for their children.

If you have an issue with TIP take it to TIP or the EUSD board. Like it or not, California promotes this educational model, so you might as well vent on the state as well.

To Private School Anyone? wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:51 AM:I am so sorry that your experience in a traditional public school went so poorly. Different schools, different teachers, different experiences. I guess I lucked out. All 3 of my children at their public EUSD school (and my now 8th grader) have been taught by wonderful caring teachers. All grade levels are regrouped throughout the day so they are constantly being challenged. Those students that need extra help get it. I have never felt that my children were getting a "one size fits all" education.

TIPsters wrote on Apr 4, 2008 9:50 AM:What slanderous accusations, lies and half-truths are you talking about? What research have you turned up to make that statement?

tippy tipster wrote on Apr 4, 2008 12:08 PM:I, for one, am sitting here, drinking my spiked Kool-aid and enjoying watching the bickering going back and forth. I have kids at TIP, I have had 3 good teachers out of 4, wonder about Mike, and mostly enjoy the small school size. Since this article first appeared, Mike STILL hasn't defended himself or his salary, so it appears that NOTHING will be done. So, you might as well lower your blood pressure, and enjoy some this spiked kool-aid with me to forget about all these issues.

Tippy wrote on Apr 4, 2008 1:28 PM:That is the best suggestion that I have seen to date! Cheers!

Posted Audit Report wrote on Apr 4, 2008 2:00 PM:The 2006/2007 TIP Encinitas audit has been posted on the TIP website.

It is an interesting fact that Wilkinson Hadley & Co. who did the TIP audit last year is the same auditor who did the Cortez Hills Academy audit. Their Cortez Hills Academy audit noted that the director/principal, Mike Hazelton, approved and received a pay increase for himself without receiving board approval. They recommended that Cortez Hills contact Mike Hazelton and request repayment for the funds which he was overpaid as a result of this unauthorized $18,350.00 increase. This Cortez Hills Academy audit is a public document that can be accessed through SDUSD.

If Mike Hazelton denies that he took this self-directed an unauthorized pay raise of $18,350.00 (otherwise known as embezzlement) that this auditor discovered, then he must believe that the audit was flawed and incorrect. If that auditor was providing faulty audits, why then would Mike Hazelton choose to use the same auditor at TIP?

Talk about conflicts wrote on Apr 5, 2008 8:02 PM:Posted Audit Report- Maybe Mike chooses the same auditor because the list of charter auditors is relatively small. Plus they contract with a JPA (some charters are part of SDCOE JPA and some are part of a CA JPA pool.) It is virtually impossible for the EUSD and the SDCOE to conduct any true oversight because they all belong to the same pool of JPA's.

To: Posted Audit Report wrote on Apr 6, 2008 12:07 PM:What an interesting question you pose, i.e. "If that auditor was providing faulty audits, why then would MH choose to use the same auditor?" .... wouldn't it point more to his innocence that he is still using the same company???

Interesting question? wrote on Apr 6, 2008 2:34 PM:I think that Mike Hazelton needs to PROCLAIM & ANNOUNCE his innocence rather than point to it. In any case, how does using the same company point to his innocence? Either an audit is incorrect or it is correct. Are you saying that the Cortez Hills Audit findings are incorrect?

Entertained wrote on Apr 7, 2008 8:29 PM:It is entertainig watching this school go down! There is now way the school will or should survive. What a waste of money!

Wait list wrote on Apr 8, 2008 9:16 AM:I don't know about the entertainment value, but that wait list they treasure will surely dwindle away to out of district students even if they do survive this summer. EUSD has been overwhelmed with transfer requests from TIP parents. The TIP ship is sinking faster than they can chant "think, create, lead..."!

To "Wait List" wrote on Apr 8, 2008 10:29 AM:More fabrication!

The jealous nature of the outsiders in this situation bleeds through brighter and brighter with each passing day.

Instead of waisting your time in here lying to people, why not take your complaints to Lord King? He has ALL the answers on shutting TIP down, even if he has to make them up or create them.

To: To "Wait List" wrote on Apr 8, 2008 6:12 PM:What? Now we are bring the Lord into this. I really doubt he is involved with this little mess called TIP. I think he has a few better things on his list. But God Bless you all, truly.

To the previous poster wrote on Apr 8, 2008 8:12 PM:Actually, no one ever mentioned "the Lord," but how kind of you to offer everyone your "true" blessings. Clearly "Lord King" in the post before yours was meant to refer to EUSD superintendent McLean King.

pv parent wrote on Apr 9, 2008 12:53 PM:I have been keeping a close eye on these comments and have concluded along with my other research that you all can keep TIP and the Hazeltons! Hopefully PVPUSD will find adequate cause to deny the charter (decision will be April 21). If you go to the Encinitas Union School District web site and read their March 13, 2008 board minutes, Mr. Hazelton states that he is 2/3 time employed by TIP Encinitas. Is that also the understanding of the TIP parents and Board - that he is paid $95K for a 2/3 time job? Can anyone provide a copy of the MOU under study between TIP Academy and TIP education? How much are you all being asked to pay TIP education for ongoing curriculum support now? The TIP PV charter application has a $100K per year jump in budget in year 4 for "approved textbooks and core curricula materials" - I assume this is money that starts going to their separate company TIP Education, Inc?

Look out Carlsbad wrote on Apr 9, 2008 7:21 PM:TIP is coming to a school near you! Yes, Carlsbad, that is the next site for the H's. The first informational meeting will be held April 14th. You better get your ducks in a row and get ready to take them down. Look at the PV denial once it is posted on their web site on 4/21 for help!

Question to Look out Carlsbad wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:57 AM:Where will this meeting be held and at what time?

Where did you hear about this?

Thank you.

PV Parent wrote on Apr 10, 2008 5:29 PM:Are you sure they are not talking about the TIP meeting in PV on Monday to prepare for the districts move?

Interested wrote on Apr 14, 2008 7:03 AM:I haven't heard anything about the TIP PV meeting. Where and when is it?

To Interested wrote on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM:The PV district administration should post their recommendation on their web site on 4/17. The board meeting, at which time the board will vote on the administration's recommendation will be on 4/21 at 7:00. All the details are on the district's web site.

To All Interested wrote on Apr 15, 2008 7:12 AM:TIP PV has withdrawn their charter application with PVPUSD. The details are posted on the TIP PV website.

Regarding: TIP Carlsbad wrote on Apr 15, 2008 10:30 AM:Read the letter regarding the withdrawal of the TIP Palos Verdes petition (on the TIP PV website at ww.tippv.org ). It states that TIP is pursuing a TIP Academy in Carlsbad now.
The letter also states that PV parents who were behind starting the charter school now are going to focus on adapting the curriculum within the public schools to suit those children who learn differently. Sounds like a great idea -- why didn't they just do that in the first place? Maybe they just needed to get the school board's attention that some parents weren't happy with the status quo. When TIP Encinitas closes (and it will b/c it can't continue to operate in the red) those parents should focus their attention on getting their children what they need in the public schools.

Not a rumor wrote on Apr 15, 2008 11:14 AM:According to the TIP PV web site...

TIP Education will continue to run their school in Encinitas, and to pursue their initiatives to establish TIP Academy Los Angeles, TIP Academy Carlsbad, and their proposed Middle School in Encinitas.

To Regarding wrote on Apr 15, 2008 1:47 PM:What a load of bull!

TIP will NOT be in the red by year end. They have to wait for their funding. Of course by that time you'll be nowhere to be found.

Also, direct from the source: "Los Angeles is the only other charter that TIP Education is currently pursuing."

There is no TIP Carlsbad, even though that would be great if there was.

Enough with the false rumors already!

FActs wrote on Apr 15, 2008 5:38 PM:I just heard about this blog - it does read like a soap opera! Everyone has and is entitled to their opinions; and people will never completely agree. What I object to, though, is the blame placed on the Encinitas School Board. If you look into Charter mandates, the Board had no choice but to go ahead with TIP, AND they HAD to find a place for TIP - hence Ocean Knoll as there was space and it was thh cheapest solution for a cash strapped District. For those of you TIP parents who say be glad my child is out of the classroom and in TIP, where do you think that $ for TIP is coming from - the sky? It is coming out of the District's budget - $ that should be going to MY child's school. Ever heard of economies of scale? Also, TIP made some costly errors when it was getting established and was uneligible for a $250,000 state grant (NOT from the EUSD budget) due to not getting paperwork in on time. I guess mistakes like that is why they need so many administrators. All I can say is, the principal at my children's school of HUNDREDS of children must really be Superman in disguise!

To load of bull wrote on Apr 15, 2008 5:57 PM:The office of General Counsel of LAUSD investigated the TIP charter application and cancelled it. I wonder what they discovered? If the Hazelton's want to go to LAUSD, it is back to the drawing board for them. Perhaps that is why Carlsbad looks so appealing to them. Just because the Carlsbad meeting was discovered and cancelled by the Hazelton's, it does not mean they are not going to try and pull it off once people stop looking.

How do you know TIP Encinitas is not in the red? You cannot count on anything Mike Hazelton says as the truth or fact. Will his elusive grant ever come through? Will he ever get a spreadsheet to add up correctly? I doubt it and feel sorry for you that you are banking your childs future on the words of a malingerer like Mike Hazelton.

To To Regarding wrote on Apr 15, 2008 6:26 PM:Get your head out of the clouds, TIP's days are numbered. Why do you think they are looking at Carlsbad? When TIP finally closes I wonder what district will ever hire any of the administrators or teachers associated with TIP?

New Anit Tipsters?? wrote on Apr 15, 2008 9:36 PM:Make no mistake about it, the TIP PV Charter petition was going to be denied. The Hs pulled out to avoid yet another failure on their record. They now have a whole new group angry with them, the TIP PV proponents. Way to go! Read the TIP PV web site.."One of the major changes in any new charter would be the elimination of any connection to TIP Education, Inc...." They finally realize the error of their ways!

smoke and fire wrote on Apr 15, 2008 9:59 PM:What is the common theme of all of these so called rumors? It is the Hazelton's. Where there is so much constant smoke, there must be fire. It looks like all of you Tipsters are blinded by all the smoke, but out here, we see clearly that your school is doomed and that the Hazelton's should not be in the business of educating children.

USC wrote on Apr 15, 2008 10:10 PM:Where is USC in all of this mess? The principal stated at a information night that they had a partnership with USC through Dr. Kaplan? How can this be? I cannot believe that USC would associate with this mess. Why is Dr. Kaplan risking her good name?

Moving to Carlsbad wrote on Apr 15, 2008 10:18 PM:Seems like TIP Carlsbad is the only option left for the Hazeltons and Kaplan with PV and LA not moving forward. Maybe they can find parents that won't ask questions, that will be willing to support them with hours and money, that will smile and bring fresh cookies each day. Then, they can move all the teachers to a new campus and cut and run from Encinitas. Or do we believe the teachers that have signed on to PV and LA won't move to a new local school?

Baggage wrote on Apr 16, 2008 6:36 AM:Check out the LA Times article today. I wonder what the "Hazelton baggage" is that they talk about in this article?

To USC wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:06 AM:Look it up!

Wow! wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:09 AM:So much jealousy out there!

You don't have to like the fact that your precious dollars are going to TIP, but they didn't make the law.

Seems that your vitriol would be better used on Sacramento. They are the masters of waste.

Reaming the Hazeltons will not get you your money back...

Why? wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:18 PM:Why would anyone want a school that has done so much good for so many children to close?
My child was so bored and uninterested in the traditional classroom setting that he was about to disrupt and distract those who are served so well, and now he is thriving in an environment that respects and encourages his own way of learning. Why take this from him? Would this bring you joy?

But.. wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:45 PM:But the Hazeltons have given many children an excellent two years. Even if the Hazeltons are lacking in business skills, even if they are greedy, the children have been given a chance to learn according to their own skill levels and mine now loves to learn. I hope the school will succeed because the educational system is fantastic for a child like my own.

to But.... wrote on Apr 17, 2008 6:40 AM:The lack of integrity on the part of parents who are just happy their children "love to learn" shocks me. The vast majority of children love school and love their teachers. This is nothing different than your neighbors are experiencing at traditional schools. The fact that you are willing to look the other way at mismanagement or worse is disgusting. At least the people of PV had the good sense to cut ties after seeing the true colors.

To Why wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:07 AM:I agree with you, but would like to add that my kids were doing great in their traditional school. They always made good grades and their teachers always said that they were very well behaved, but they were bored. At TIP they're not bored. They love school now, and for those of you who care about test scores, their math scores improved after their first year at TIP.

To "To Wow and Why" wrote on Apr 17, 2008 12:23 PM:Please do us all a favor and cite specific examples for both of your accusations.

Also how is his effort subpar?

Do you have any relationship with TIP or are you simply mouthing off like so many who seem to know so little except for the hearsay that runs amok lately?

Please enlighten us all.

To "To But" wrote on Apr 17, 2008 1:03 PM:My understanding is that TIP Education jumped ship last Friday because the PV Petition was to be denied. TIP PV had no alternative but to put its petition -- after having cost the district thousands and thousands of dollars in attorneys' fees. I don't consider that "good sense" on the part of the PV Tipsters but hope they learned something from this mess!

To: To But wrote on Apr 17, 2008 1:08 PM:(The lack of integrity on the part of parents who are just happy their children "love to learn" shocks me.)

I could not agree with you more. So what that they are crooks, at least my kid loves to learn? That does not sound like a very "scholarly" point of view. What else are you willing to tolerate because your child loves to learn? And tolerate it at the expense of our tax dollars no less!

Leaving wrote on Apr 17, 2008 5:44 PM:Why did so many families pull their children out of TIP ...? What do they know that we don't?

Lost in translation wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:13 PM:When the president and another officer of the TIP Parent Advisory Council board of directors both remove their children mid-year, little should be lost in translation. Not to mention the PTA president who removed her children from TIP last month. What other signs of doom should we expect next, a plague of locusts?

tipsy tipster wrote on Apr 17, 2008 10:05 PM:Ooops, spilled some of that kool-aid on my shirt. What EXACTLY is going on now with Mike and Debbie? Things have been suspiciously quiet, if you ask me. How many of you are considering pulling your kids next year? It should be an interesting year with all the volunteer school leaders leaving or stepping down from their positions. Who will run the foundation, PTA, and Enrichment Club? The volunteers who run all these programs are fed up with the misuse of funds. My kids will not be there next year.

To: Leaving wrote on Apr 17, 2008 11:35 PM:Exactly how many families are pulling their children out this week? I think you are exaggerating the magnitude of the exodus.

To to leaving wrote on Apr 18, 2008 6:46 AM:I'm not at your school, but does it really matter how many? It seems to me they are the key player, most involved parents. Those who may really know what is going on! Look around, how many other schools have the leaders of the school unhappy?

Exodus wrote on Apr 18, 2008 6:58 AM:In a school the size of TIP, four families pulling their total of 6 children out is a big exodus. When you factor in who three of these families are and what they do for the school, it speaks volumes.

The administration may paint this as parents who are upset by all of the negative parents and they can't take it anymore, but that is not the case.

Returning wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:11 AM:Not sure what schools these families are returning to, but welcome back! EUSD is happy to have you back.

It just burns you, doesn't it? wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:36 AM:The fact that TIP is doing find and will continue to do so just makes some of you people seethe... All that precious money going to a school that none of you want to survive.

It's gotten so bad now that you continually post lies and falsehoods on this site to press your agenda. Shame on all of you.

The fact the some people in the community happen to want something different for their children is not reason to belittle them and label them. Your neurosis is no excuse for this kind of behavior.

Tsk, tsk, tsk Returning wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:39 AM:What makes you think that they are all returning to EUSD? It's rather presumptive of you to think that they are all from there. No?

Laughing at tipsy tipster wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:45 AM:Notice I didn't say "laughing with tipsy tipster." Were you involved with any of the programs or was that just someone else's job? Did you come to TIP thinking someone would do your job for you?

Have a nice life in the school you left before...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Doomed from the start wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:02 AM:In the 3rd comment from the top, "ESCONative" advises that in situations like this, the charter school's board should replace the administration. But how could this be done at TIP since the board IS the administration? THAT is the central problem with having a small group of related persons as the administrators/teachers/board directors/ committee chairs/financial planners/ curriculum developer and suppliers, etc. When there's a big screw-up(such as failing to timely submit a grant application), how can you fire the incompetent one when he is the boss? The Hazeltons run the show and anyone who differs with them has left, or is leaving.

Leaving wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:06 PM:So more founding families are leaving TIP. Who are these people? They are the ones who fought to get the school started, volunteered their time and money. Stepped up when nobody else would (you know who you are). Made sure the teachers had supplies, etc., etc. They leave and you would expect that decency would result in a simple thank you. But no, that's not the case. Too much ego on the part of the administration and teachers. Good riddance some will say. They better be the ones willing to step up and fill the gaps left behind. Making posts on how much you love TIP isn't going to cut it.

"burns you" wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:13 PM:That's a pretty bold statement saying that people are spreading lies. A little bit of research shows that most of the statements are accurate.

Do you still believe there are WMDs in Iraq?

To "burns you" wrote on Apr 18, 2008 4:21 PM:Ooooo.... The "Do you still believe there are WMDs in Iraq?" question! How droll.

Since you contend that most of the statements are accurate, please tell us all, what flavor of kool-aid are the parents drinking? How many families have pulled out? How many are not returning next year? When will TIP Carlsbad become reality?

Please feel free to add any other tidbits of fact that you care to provide.

The ball is in your court.

well.... wrote on Apr 18, 2008 5:17 PM:I have heard of four kids that left this week alone that I am aware of. Maybe there are more? And, I'm drinking cherry kook-aid; I'm not sure what the other tipsters are drinking. Most people who are not returning next year have not informed TIP yet. We are holding our spots just in case. So, for those of you on the waiting list, "Welcome!".

Fact or fiction? wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:38 PM:To those who still believe in the TIP fairy tale: If people had told you a few months ago that the Hazeltons, after dropping their plans for a TIP middle school in Encinitas, claiming it was too soon to consider expansion, were pursuing TIP elementary/middle schools in Palos Verdes and LA, you would have called them liars.

WMD's wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:21 PM:Of course there are WMD's in Iraq. The Hazelton's told me so, it must be true.....

returning the ball wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:45 PM:I understand the flavor is grape. I don't know the totals of families that have pulled out but I'm sure that the administration would be happy to post. Based on the recent public reaction to TIP startups in communities like PV or LA my guess is there will never be a TIP Carlsbad. Re WMDs, my point, droll or not, is that just wishing for something doesn't make it true. Time will tell who's right or wrong, it always does.

speechless wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:18 PM:There were those who said nothing about the Nazis either until they came knocking on their door........be careful turning the other cheeck just because your children are happy and "love to learn"

Eighty percent rule wrote on Apr 19, 2008 9:40 AM:I buy lots of things work maybe 80% of the time, such as MS-window. I would like Microsoft to improve their product before they sell to me but O.K. with it( not much choice). Same feeling toward to TIP, I'm happy 80% of the time, but would like to see some changes. EUSD just a piece of junk running by group of old lazy dogs. I like to donate it, but no one stupid enough to take it.

Eighty-percent-rule wrote on Apr 19, 2008 9:47 AM:I buy lots of things work maybe 80% of the time, such as MS-window. I would like Microsoft to improve their product before they sell to me but O.K. with it( not much choice). Same feeling toward to TIP, I'm happy 80% of the time, but would like to see some changes. EUSD just a piece of junk running by group of old lazy dogs. I like to donate it, but no one stupid enough to take it.

question wrote on Apr 19, 2008 1:21 PM:if you don't like TIP, why still send you kids to TIP? For the people decide to leave, thank for being honest. The people still hunting on TIP, I think EUSD will open their arms for you. I'll throw a DR. King's personal kiss just for you. Have a good life, Just leave.

To: It just burns you, doesn't it? wrote on Apr 19, 2008 2:05 PM:"The fact that TIP is doing find and will continue to do so just makes some of you people seethe... All that precious money going to a school that none of you want to survive."

*TIP Academy ISN'T doing FINE and it WILL fail, not because of the parents and teachers, but because of the Hazelton's dishonesty and arrogance!

"It's gotten so bad now that you continually post lies and falsehoods on this site to press your agenda. Shame on all of you. "
* The posts on this blog are painfully true. The problem is that too many people, (like you) don't take the time to educate themselves on the facts. Keep turning your head and the school is sure to close.

"The fact the some people in the community happen to want something different for their children is not reason to belittle them and label them. Your neurosis is no excuse for this kind of behavior."

*Different doesn't mean that the tax payers and parents should have to pay two administrators $205K a year! Who's the one suffering from neurosis?

To Eighty-percent-rule wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:40 PM:What about Mike Hazelton who only works 60% of the time?

mikey wrote on Apr 19, 2008 8:21 PM:Actually, Mike works 180 days, which is only a few days less than the days the teachers work on their contracts (considered 100%). If you look at the school calendar, I am guessing that he actually works more like 98% no 60%. We aren't basing the school year on 365 days.

$95K wrote on Apr 19, 2008 9:46 PM:If you go to the Encinitas Union School District web site and read their March 13, 2008 board minutes, Mike Hazelton states that he is 2/3 time employed by TIP Encinitas.

To $95K wrote on Apr 19, 2008 9:56 PM:Well, regardless of what percentage he is working, he is absolutely worth every penny of his salary. He is doing an awesome job! I am SO impressed with the results of all the projects he has started and all of the teaching he has done in my child's classroom. Incredible! Not to mention the excellent traffic directing!!

Should be illegal wrote on Apr 20, 2008 12:20 PM:As the internet matures, there will hopefully be a law against slander. Unitl then, you should be ashamed of your possible career-ending accusations! I know for a fact that many of them are false and suspect the same of others. If Mike were doing something illegal, the EUSD would be all over it in a flash. I am sure that if names were required to accompany all of these "facts" there wouldn't be so many posts. It's nice that people can voice their opinions, but this has gotten out of hand and should be illegal!

80-percent rule wrote on Apr 20, 2008 3:15 PM:That's some pretty nasty talk about a school district that overall ranks very well. I hope you are saving up for private school, after that boastfull talk it would be a real embarassment to have to send your kids back to schools run under the management of the district.

TO: Should be illegal wrote on Apr 20, 2008 6:46 PM:You're funny... it should not be illegal to post your opinion and make statements. You should move to China if you don't want to have the freedom of free speech. To anyone who went to TIP: hey I understand, you were looking out for your kid(s) and wanted to try something different. Understandable. I'm sorry for what the Hazelton's have done to you and your families. I hope you all feel welcome back into the EUSD school that you return to.

NEWSFLASH wrote on Apr 20, 2008 6:57 PM:Most of the most involved parents at TIP will NOT be returning next year. Want proof? Take a look around at TIP in August. Anyone staying should plan on doing a lot more volunteering next year with all of these very active parents gone. And if you are unhappy with that, you can only blame yourself for not seeing the writing on the wall and "just being happy for what my kids are learning" and "not caring about Hazelton's past." Stop name calling and pointing fingers at the parents, fire your administration. Oh yeah, I forgot, you can't.

Flashback wrote on Apr 20, 2008 7:48 PM:Remember when TIP parents tried to take over the EUSD school board and run for the 3 open positions? My favorite part was when one of the TIP parent candidates "revealed" a chart about EUSD that was totally incorrect. Classic.

TO: Should be illegal wrote on Apr 20, 2008 8:41 PM:Be careful not to spill your Kool Aid up there on your high horse. It is going to be a long and hard fall down, so prepare to tuck and roll Tipster style.

Hiding from the truth wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:52 PM:I was at the dentist office the other day and picked up a National Geographic magazine. I came across an article that described a type of gazelle that live in herds in the African plains. Like most herd animals when threatened they run but in cases where they are taken by surprise they will hide behind trees. The ironic thing is that the rest their heads on the trees effectively keeping them from seeing beyond the tree trunk and they feel safe behind any tree large or small as long as they can't see what's going. This effectively blinds them from the dangers around them, making them easy prey.
Hiding from the truth doesn't mean you’re safe, it just makes you an easier target.

Confused wrote on Apr 20, 2008 11:22 PM:I am confused as to the so called "illegal" activity precluded to in these blogs. Yes, they make a good salary at $205,000, but it is board approved. The financials and projections show TIP will still be in the black despite their salary. Am I missing something?

Math problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:14 AM:Mike has a good salary and a contract that states he will work 2/3 of his time for TIP. Another post on this site states TIP teachers work 180 days a year. Well, my old math tells me that 2/3 of 180 = 120 or a third of a year. 3 times $95K is $285K. Wow, that’s pretty good money. Where can I sign up to direct traffic?

To Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:38 AM:First of all, Mike's contract says he works 2/3 of his time, but he seems to work more. Second of all, your math assumes that everyone else works Saturdays and Sundays. I doubt if you qualify for traffic duty.

Re Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:53 AM:I'm glad to see we agree on the numbers.

The difference of opinion comes down to what the money should be spent on. In a state where school budgets are being cut and teachers losing jobs it is appalling to hear of money be wasted on, albeit highly skilled, traffic directors.

To: To Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:10 AM:You are actually incorrect. The school year includes 180, not including Saturdays and Sundays. You must be learning your math TIP style. Is it just me or does the narrow sited support for TIP seem to be coming from maybe just one or two people? Your comments and ignorance read so similarly.

To "Math Problem" wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:10 AM:You have a comprehension problem as well. Mike Hazelton is not a teacher. His job does not fit into the 180 day school year.

So many experts, yet so little truth.

To Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:19 AM:You got the math right... you just used the wrong equations to start with. That's what happens when your math consists of nothing but worksheets.

Re Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:53 AM:I'm glad to see we agree on the numbers. The difference of opinion comes down to priorities. In a state where school budgets are being cut should scarce funds be spent on administrators or teachers?

Too funny wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:57 AM:I have to say that comment about having the wrong equations is hillarious. I don't know what math they're teaching at TIP but those equations are simple multiplication. Wow, you all may want to stop spending time on this blog and bust out some flash cards instead.

Re Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:08 AM:Re: Mike Hazelton is not a teacher. His job does not fit into the 180 day school year.

So be it, then the previous post trying to justify his 2/3 time to the 180 day schedule is incorrect. As you can see, that's what I referred to in the equation.

You've convinced me! It's much better to have a high-priced, part time administrator than teachers, or supplies, or a host of other things that could be done for $95K.

To "Re Math Problem" wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:34 AM:Yet another example of half-truths.

The budget is not being cut. The increase to the budget is being cut. Talk about kool-aid drinkers...

Hey Re Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:46 AM:You seem to know it all. What is it that Mike Hazelton does and what is it that you think isn't worth the $95K?

Re Budget Cuts wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:58 AM:I'm not sure where you get your news but teachers in CA are losing their jobs. Focus on the issue, administrators or teachers?

You are pulling money for salaries from public coffers and the public have a right to scrutinize your activities. If you don't like it, open a private school and have all the high-priced administrators you want!

More Math wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:58 AM:Mike's salary:
$90,000/180days = $500/day

Days a full time year-round person works:
52weeks * 5days/week = 260 days

Therefore, at his current pay, if Mike worked full time year-round (with no vacation or holidays) he would be making $130,000 per year
($500/day * 260 days)

If he got 2 weeks vacation and holidays like most of us, it would equate to $117,500 / year (not $285K)

Okay Re Budget Cuts... wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:36 AM:Please name one teacher whom you know that will not have a job next year. I'm not talking about teachers who have received pink slips either. Those come at a dime a dozen at this time of year.

I'm talking about one single teacher whom you know that will not have a job due to the so-called budget cuts.

Hi Math Problem wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:48 AM:If 2/3 = $95,000 then 1 whole salary would have been $142,500. 2/3 = $95K/$142.5K That is how to complete a ratio math problem.

Math Problem, while your multiplication calculations are correct, your conceptual understanding is lacking. To multiply $95,000 times 3 is to conceive that $95,000 = 1/3 of the salary.

I just checked on the EUSD website that an Assistant Superintendent, with years of experience and education, makes at least $136,500. What do you suppose Dr. King makes per year. It is not listed on their Administrative Schedule. But my guess is that it could potentially be $142,500.

Is your complaint with the fact that school administrators make money?

Here is another math problem. If $205,000 is the combined salary of the two administrators, and one of them makes $95,000, then how much does the other one make? $205,000 - $95,000 = $110,000. Again, check our EUSD website - this is right in line for a principal of a school in our district.

Re More Math wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:56 AM:Thanks for breaking out the numbers. My original post was to make a point about the opportunity cost of a highly paid, part time administrator.

If you really want to get into the details here we go. This assumes a normal, exempy salaried position. In this case days off, weekends, and holidays are included in the salary. The hourly wage does not apply.

So $95K per annum working 2/3 of time works out to:
95K * 1.667 = $158K estimated full time salary for a full time employee.

The important question is where is the money better spent? Administrators? Teachers (wow, 9 teachers earning $10K more a year would be huge)? Supplies?

Hello to Re More Math! wrote on Apr 21, 2008 12:27 PM:Is anyone home? Did you learn math in the EUSD? I sure hope hot.

Oh my...

Naysayers wrote on Apr 21, 2008 12:30 PM:What if I have done my research and I no longer see the questions? I rely on my own fact finding, not that of others. I found answers and I choose to support TIP Academy, the school my child attends.

I don't drink Kool-Aid, the dye alone will give you cancer, and I value myself and my family too much to drink it. References to leaders who ultimately killed and massacred others is despicable, yet it directly reflects on those who insinuate the correlation to the Hazeltons.

All that is left to be said is this:

"If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem." - Richard Bach

Hello Hello wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:41 PM:I don't understand your statement, is anyone home. If you don't understand the equation let me know and I'll explain it to you. No need to feel bad. Based on what I've heard of the TIP math curriculum I can understand your confusion.

Correction! wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:52 PM:I checked my math and, OMG, found I had made an error in my equation! You were right, I wasn’t home and as mentioned above the salary is a paltry $142K per annum. Well heck, that’s a bargain.

Yes, I admit it, I was wrong. Did some research, and acknowledge the facts.

How many students? wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:01 PM:Are enrolled at TIP. Seems like a smaller school would have benefits for students and parents alike.

To How many students? wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:44 PM:7 less students as of last Friday. Confirmed at tonight's board meeting by administration.

Happy Days! wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:30 PM:I Was at TIP board meeting! Best show in town! At the end they went to closed session to evaluate the principal and the part time 95K employee. I bet he gets a full time contract so no one can pick on him!

just curious wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:33 PM:who approved mike's salary in the first place and why???? if everyone thinks money should be spent for other more meaningful things in the district.

To: Just Curious wrote on Apr 22, 2008 6:54 AM:From what I hear, it was the 2nd board who approved the salary, which includes some friends of theirs and teachers. This is part of why the whole 1st board removed themselves; as well as the fact that they found out that the Hazeltons had given them all a completely different set of by-laws than the ones that they submitted to the state. The big difference was that the ones submitted to the state gave them a lot more power with regards to the board and finances.

To To: Just Curious wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:51 AM:Where can I read the set of by-laws presented to the state? I'm curious too.

by-laws wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:04 AM:You can request a set in writting from the TIP office. You can request any document that pertains to either board, TIP Academy or TIP Education.

just curious wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:12 AM:so what that means is that a school board can themselves approve their expenses without any approval from the district and then get the monies from the district pool. How does that work???? that all school boards should be able to pull out as much as they want.
If not , why and how is TIP special?

why people go to the board meeting wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:23 AM:If you can receive better written report in the blog, why anyone needs to go to the board meeting? Why not just spend the quality evening with your family? Besides, there is nothing new for everyone.

To Just curious wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:32 AM:There is only so much money each school district gets from the state and for a charter school only so much money they get from the district plus some extra from the state. With a school district, they have certain rules and guidelines how they spend their money (ie. they get some money for textbooks, some for GATE, etc.) and they have to follow those rules and guidelines. But, for a charter school their is little oversight on how they spend their money. They can allocate the money how they think is best. If they want more money spent on curriculum, books, computers, etc. then they can do that. If they want more on salaries and administration then they can do that. That has been the big problem this year with TIP. Many parents felt that fewer dollars were spent on curriculum (ie. some used textbooks used this year) and more money spent on two administrators. Hope that explanation helps.

to To Just curious wrote on Apr 22, 2008 12:49 PM:Thank you.

just curious wrote on Apr 22, 2008 3:24 PM:thanks for your explanation. it explains why some tip parents are mad, but why are non-tip parents mad?

Regarding why non-TIP parents are mad wrote on Apr 22, 2008 4:08 PM:I didn't get into it all above, but basically EUSD is basic aid which means it actually gets most of its money from property taxes rather than the state. When a charter school starts in a basic aid district like Encinitas, it actually takes money away from the district. In other districts, like Carlsbad (non-basic aid) funding would still be the same and they would not loss money with each child going to the charter. There is also an issue when a kid from another district goes to TIP - in some cases zero money comes with them and then EUSD is actually having to pay money for that kid. That is a big reason why non-TIP parents did not like TIP. A secondary issue was that it got personal at some schools; some people felt betrayed that families were leaving their home school; like the school wasn't good enough for them. Lastly, some people had heard about the Hazelton's and did not like or trust them.

Re EUSD paying for non-district kids at TIP wrote on Apr 22, 2008 5:00 PM:But EUSD is very clear that it refuses to pay any money for non-district students at TIP. Which is why TIP offered to pay for extra trailers themselves to house those additional students, but EUSD was not satisfied with that option either. So I am puzzled by the previous poster's comment.

to Re EUDS paying for non... wrote on Apr 22, 2008 6:43 PM:That's the part that probably has non-TIP parents upset. EUSD does have to give TIP funding (let's just say it's $1000 per student) for every student attending the school. However, if one of those TIP students is from outside EUSD boundaries, then EUSD pays TIP for the student from the EUSD budget, but that student doesn't bring the full $1000 (again, let's just say that amount. I don't know what it actually is.) with them from their district of residence. So, any student attending TIP from outide EUSD boundaries is costing the district money, whether it is the full $1000 or 30% of that $1000. EUSD gived TIP a lump sum at the beginning of the school year ($1000 per student) then TIP spends the money where they want to...textbooks, computers, salaries, etc. What the district doesn't have to provide is classrooms for students from outside EUSD. Not sure if that helps. It took me a while to get it all straight. Charter law is a very interesing animal.

trailers wrote on Apr 22, 2008 6:45 PM:If TIP paid for their own classrooms or extra trailers is there enough room at their current locations to house the trailers?

Thank you re EUSD payments wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:16 PM:OK, then that would make a lot more sense toward explaining some of the extremely bitter feelings being expressed here. I was under the apparently false impression that because EUSD wasn't paying for any classroom space for non-district students, they weren't paying anything else for out of district kids either. Can you point me to any non-biased info on charter law (is there such a thing?) where I can try to get more of it straight for myself, too? Thanks again for your input!

to Thank you re EUSD payments wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:43 PM:You can try the CDE web site, there is a section on charter schools. One other point the previous poster did not mention is when a charter school is started in any district it really becomes it's own little school district within the existing school district. That is why they have their own board etc. The school board of the district that houses the charter school is repsonsible for oversight and the charter school pays a 1% fee to cover the costs. In reality the costs are far greater. Also if the school district is in declining enrollment the removal of those students from the distsrict into the charter has a negative impact on the districts budget. The money follows the child so in the case of EUSD, the money goes to TIP and out of the EUSD budget, which increases the negative impact of declining enrollment. The advocates will say you don't have to pay to educate that child anymore, however, that is not really accurate. The infrastructure (building, administrator, teachers, custodian, electricity, etc) still have to be maintained, but now with fewer students contributing to the cost because they are supporting a completely new infrastructure with their ADA dollars. You can compare it to a family with 4 children and then one leaves for college. The expenses at the home don't really go down, you still have to pay the mortgage, electricity, water, etc...but now you also have to pay all those things for your child's new residence while maintaing the old...make sense??? The RAND CORP did some studies on the financial impact of charter schools on districts in declining enrollment. You could probably google that for info.

TO All payment comments wrote on Apr 22, 2008 9:09 PM:Well explained above. Thank you very much. I think a lot of people were confused. It is very understandable now.

Is it just me wrote on Apr 22, 2008 9:31 PM:It doesn't seem that charter schools should be allowed in Basic Aid districts. Why should the district be punished financially for a charter school that come into their district?

to Thank you re EUSD payments wrote on Apr 22, 2008 9:40 PM:Thank you for your explaination. Well explained. The other issue is that the majority of the students will pay for a few students that their parents feel like they have a choice!

P.S. Mike is now working 100%. 60% at TIP and the other 40% answering this blog!!!!

to Is it just me wrote on Apr 23, 2008 7:12 AM:I agree wholheartedly. Charters should not be allowed in Basic Aid districts. Because they're funded differently, it's a drain financially. I feel like our anger needs to be directed at Sacramento. Legislators are the ones that made it okay to start a charter in a district where it will have negative financial impact. Lately, as I learn more about charters and the whole NCLB debacle, I feel like the govt. is just looking for a way to make all schools fail and I just don't get it.

TO to Is it just me wrote on Apr 23, 2008 8:40 AM:Bingo! You are only the second person on this blog to place the blame where it belongs... Sacramento.

But, then, what else is new?

costs to EUSD wrote on Apr 23, 2008 9:34 AM:Another cost to EUSD that has drained funds is the "building" of TIP's campus. EUSD had to pay for those costs associated with getting TIP a campus. Charter law says that the district must provide classrooms but to me if a group of parents/teachers (who are from Oceanside as the original article states, not even from Encinitas) wants to start their own school they should have to figure out how to fund it themselves. I agree with the comments about charter law being....interesting.

Its not that simple wrote on Apr 23, 2008 10:27 AM:It's too simple just to blame everything on Sacramento. It is individuals who use the laws to their own advantage to reach a result not contemplated when the laws where written or when the proposition was approved by the voters. These individuals may not be doing anything illegal but it still might be unethical. The government didn't decide that EUSD, one of the highest performing districts in the state, and also a basic aid district, should have a charter school - the Hazeltons and OCEANSIDE teachers and parents decided that. Why didn't they set up their school in Oceanside? Charter school laws were intended to start alternative schools for kids in poor performing schools (as found in Oceanside, not Encinitas and Palos Verdes) usually in low socioeconomic areas where families cannot afford private schools (again, more true in Oceanside than in Encinitas or PV). Charter schools are given more leeway in their curriculum and much less oversight than other public schools in exchange for the chance to try out new teaching methods to increase student achievement. Few charter schools have succeeded in increasing student achievement but the reason most charter schools fail, and are closed down, is financial.

No it isnt that simple... wrote on Apr 23, 2008 3:37 PM:One thing was left out of the discussion above. The parents who approached the TIP people were from Encinitas. This was evidenced by the fact that some of them were the same ones that tried to get on the EUSD board.

Obviously, not all felt that EUSD was so high performing as far as their children were concerned.

This not all only about Oceanside South in Encinitas.

to No it isnt that simple wrote on Apr 23, 2008 4:45 PM:What is "Oceanside South in Encinitas"?

Question for TIP parents wrote on Apr 23, 2008 4:49 PM:Several TIP parents have told me that a big reason for leaving their EUSD school was the school was too big; there was chaos on the playground from too many students; and they sought a small, close-knit school. This desire seems to be at odds with the Hazeltons' goal to significantly increase TIP's enrollment (They tell EUSD that TIP wants to enroll 328 students next year, that's approx. 100% increase over last year.) My question for TIP parents is: Do you agree with TIP board's goal to increase enrollment at the Ocean Knoll site, or would you prefer that TIP stay about the same size and focus on other issues?

tip size wrote on Apr 23, 2008 10:48 PM:TIP is only adding 2 new classes next year to accomodate the classes it has now (2 fifth grades need to move into 2 sixth grades, and currently there is only 1 sixth grade; and the 2 third grades need to move into 2 fourth grades, of which now, there is only one). So, after that is done this coming year, numbers should remain the same. I have heard that they do not want to increase it beyond those numbers. As for the district having to pay for facilities for TIP, TIP was very open to going wherever they put us. In fact, there is a school sitting empty in Encinitas westof Coast HWY (I can't remember the name) that we would have gladly moved into. The district chose the Ocean Knoll site.

sixth grade classes wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:38 AM:With most of the 5th graders not returning due to the lacking math curriculum (3 already left last week) there will not be a need for two 6th grade classes. That should give everyone at TIP some more room.

To sixth grade classes wrote on Apr 24, 2008 2:11 PM:You could use a reasoning class.

Have you heard? The enrollment for next year is still being set. At the open house last night we were informed that they again have more than they can accept.

Those three were undoubtedly included in that summation.

Your bias blinds you... Try again.

Next Year wrote on Apr 24, 2008 3:16 PM:Really, what new parent would transfer into TIP next year? I could see some people already there trying to stay and stick it out as long as it can last, but why would anyone new want to risk their kids education and social network based on this experimental education.

Well Next Year wrote on Apr 24, 2008 4:33 PM:I suppose you'd need to ask them. Why would you ask something like that here? Most people here are simply hostile to the whole concept anyway. You sound like you fit that category as well.

To To sixth grade classes wrote on Apr 24, 2008 6:03 PM:Yeah, I also heard that last night at open house. I also know who said it and know that you cannot believe a word of it. What else would she possibly say the week after 7 students are pulled out of school by concerned parents (The PAC president, PAC secretary and the head of Math 24 to name a few)? Open your eyes to what is really going on there.

Can you reason this out? Since last week, 4-5 TIP parents are coming in daily and are making transfer requests from EUSD to get their kids out of TIP next year. The TIP registered and wait list is a joke at best.

Hostile wrote on Apr 24, 2008 7:53 PM:I'm not being hostile, I'm being realistic and raising the question, who would really transfer their kid there with multiple issues going on at the school. It is a real question.

Who needs math wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:00 PM:Why would any parent send their kids to TIP now, knowing that the math curriculum is lacking? Sorry folks, but there aren't too many jobs anymore for butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers....(and even if there were, the bakers need some math skills)

Whats Next wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:04 PM:According to this blog, TIP is a terrible school to go, and EUSD school is one of the best district. Well, 328 students leave EUSD to TIP v.s. 10 kids leave TIP (half of them home school now). TIP have problem with math? Maybe the people teach better math just don't know how to count. Truth speaks for itself.
For the quality of the teachers, I don't mind if my kids need to bring their own chairs and desks to school.

experimental education wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:37 PM:that is something to remember, it is an experiment, a theory..... and from the outside looking in, it appears this costly experiment has gone awry.

To hostile wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:47 PM:You obviously are not familiar with the Hazelton's or their koolaid drinking, pudding eating followers. People are not allowed to ask real questions at Tip. You either committ to the Hazelton doctrine or you are "one of those negative 5th grade parents". Real questions are not allowed, you are in and silent or you are on the outs.

Re Experimental education question wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:57 PM:You at least partially answered your own question. Yes, it is a risk, and one that the majority of EUSD parents aren't willing to take. (Particularly if you are thrilled with your EUSD school, then no, there would be no reason for you to take that risk.) You are absolutely right that TIP is an experimental approach to education. Perhaps in the long run it won't prove to be any better than the status quo, but without experiments, no cures for cancer or other diseases, or any improvements to our country's educational system (which I think we can all agree isn't perfect, otherwise we wouldn't be so passionately arguing both sides of this and other education issues), can ever be made.

TIPs Experiment wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:26 PM:That's why TIP's mascot is the guinea pig.

To Mascot wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:33 PM:Ooh, how clever... I suppose you would prefer schools with sheep as mascots?

Bothered wrote on Apr 25, 2008 6:52 AM:I am not sure why people are so bothered by the opinions expressed hear on this blog. If TIP is such a fantastic school, then a blog is not going to change that. From a completely outsiders opinion (just read for first time and don't know much about the school) is seems that there must be some true issues at the school because people almost seem panicked to defend the educational practices at TIP.

Guinea pig vs. sheep wrote on Apr 25, 2008 6:59 AM:Guinea Pig
Guinea pig is a species of rodent; used as a metaphor for a subject of experimentation


Sheep
The most creative sign in the Chinese zodiac, those born in the Year of the Sheep are often artistic, sensitive, sweet and charming

Guinea pig vs. sheep wrote on Apr 25, 2008 7:12 AM:Both animals create tons of excrement, something Tip overflows with. I think they can take both on as mascots.

Work Shift wrote on Apr 25, 2008 7:25 AM:Update: Mike will be taking his 1/3 break off work today, so Debbie will be taking over the blog responses from 8:00 to 5:00pm today. Thank you.

Dolly the cloned sheep wrote on Apr 25, 2008 8:33 AM:Have not seen any sensitive, sweet, or charming sheep here, but OK, sheep win over guinea pigs if the Chinese zodiac says so. Go, creative clones!

next year wrote on Apr 25, 2008 8:51 AM:I don't know what was said at open house since I didn't go, but I can tell you of NUMEROUS kids who won't be there next year, but who are NOT giving notice of that until summer time. It has been said that if you tell them now you are leaving, you will be asked to leave NOW. It is true, there is no middle ground. If you have a problem, you are told to leave. And, there may be a waiting list, but who would move there kid into TIP in 6th grade? The curriculum is so different, your kid would be lost.

Awesome wrote on Apr 25, 2008 9:34 AM:At least the posts from 8-5 will be spelled correctly if Debbie does them.

My oh my... wrote on Apr 25, 2008 10:53 AM:Such juvenile posts today. I'm sure your children would be proud.

posts today wrote on Apr 25, 2008 5:13 PM:Juvenile, maybe. Incorrect and off point, no!

Charter Lover wrote on Apr 26, 2008 10:38 AM:I am happy to have my tax money going to TIP. My kids are not using my Encinitas tax dollars because they are in private school. Everyone who cares about children should be thankful for TIP academy in Encinitas. There would be no GATE program in EUSD without TIP academy. Two years ago, when hundreds of parents signed on to a new school with gifted curriculum, EUSD officials realized that Encinitas education was really missing something. Somehow Oceanside officials figured this out long ago and have been placing GATE identified students in classes with gifted curriculum for quite some time.

These TIP kids who have learned to love education (because of Kaplan curriculum) will be a great addition to our society here in Encinitas. It is just too bad they will have to go back to public Jr. High Schools in Encinitas where many students (who have been bored in school for several years) will be turning to drugs and alcohol...

Thanks wrote on Apr 26, 2008 12:51 PM:Thanks Debbie for sharing your thoughts with us all.

To Thanks wrote on Apr 26, 2008 2:04 PM:VERY FUNNY

To Charter Lover wrote on Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM:It is true that the interest in TIP gave EUSD a wake-up call that it had to do more for its gifted students. Before TIP, the enrichment of the education of a gifted student at EUSD depended mostly on the teacher the child had that year. Some teachers were more "gifted" than others at differentiating the curriculum and challenging smart students. Now there is a focus on training all teachers in EUSD how to do this.

As for the scare tactic comment about Encinitas public jr. high students using drugs and alcohol b/c they are bored at school -- don't be so naive. There are plenty of private school kids drinking and using drugs, the difference being the private school kids get their drugs from Mom & Dad's medicine cabinet and the alcohol from the well-stocked bar or wine cellar at home, and they are better at hiding their substance abuse from their parents who are so busy working to pay for the private school tuition and the giant house with the well-stocked bar and wine cellar.

Too many parents work excessively and think all will be fine if they just plop their kids in what they think is the "best" school (best b/c it puts "Academy" in its name, or claims to be a GATE school, or is a private school and costs a lot of money). They don't realize until they are putting their kid in rehab that the school didn't matter as much as they thought. They should have invested more quality time with their kid.

To To Charter Lover wrote on Apr 26, 2008 10:00 PM:Simply stated, you have the most rational and on point post ever posted here. You are absolutely right about parental involvement. There is nothing that can replace a parent's involvement in their child's education. I have worked both in inter-city schools and affluent schools and those kids who stand out, are "GATE", do well in class, feel good about themselves, treat peers and adults with respect, are those with the greatest parental involvement. Money cannot buy you an outstanding education, but your involvement with your child can.

TO Charter Lover wrote on Apr 26, 2008 10:02 PM:It is so obvious who you are... I understand though, you are just trying to save your next year's pay check.

TO All wrote on Apr 26, 2008 10:07 PM:STOP bad mouthing us TIP parents, our TIP school and our leadership. I don't care what the Hazelton's have done in the past, I don't care if our board member changed grades for anyone at their college. I like our little school and my kid and our family finally "fit in". People can change and I think the Hazelton's have. So what if YOUR tax dollares are paying for MY KIDS education. They are tax dollares and they at least are being spent on an education and not the on the war or some coastal study or something else dumm.

TIP middle school wrote on Apr 26, 2008 11:10 PM:Does anyone here know anything about TIP middle school?

Charter Lover wrote on Apr 26, 2008 11:18 PM:By the way, my name is not Debbie. I have never even met her.

Yeah Right Charter Lover wrote on Apr 27, 2008 8:18 AM:And my name is Elmer Fudd and I "thoughd I saw a wabbit!"

waiting list wrote on Apr 27, 2008 4:40 PM:Does anyone know how many kids are on the waiting list for 6th grade in the fall? Just curious, since I know tons of 5th graders are leaving after this year, but haven't told the office yet.

To TO All wrote on Apr 27, 2008 6:50 PM:many people have looked at this blog and wondered out loud, what exactly is a koolaid drinker? thank you for providing them with a perfect definition!

tipsy tipster wrote on Apr 27, 2008 10:23 PM:After you drink so much Kool-aid, you know it does get very hard to spell the word "dumb" correctly.

can anyone answer this wrote on Apr 27, 2008 10:52 PM:Is it true that there will be at least 2 combo classes next year at TIP?

Kay wrote on Apr 28, 2008 9:23 AM:There are a lot of unanswered questions above. Would a TIP parent be so kind as to ask TIP administration to post the answers here so people won't again be accused of spreading false rumors:

What's the status of TIP middle school?

How many 6th graders are on TIP's waiting list for next year?

Will there be combo classes next year at TIP?

To Waiting List wrote on Apr 28, 2008 10:23 AM:How many children are in a ton? Are you sure that there are tons of 5th graders?

Some of you still talk like you're in high school.

To Kay wrote on Apr 28, 2008 12:36 PM:I heard there will be a new TIP blog / forum comming on line soon to address these issues. Perhaps the administration has finally figured out that to survive, they are going to need to start communicating with parents and the public.

Tons wrote on Apr 28, 2008 10:00 PM:Some may talk like high school kids, but the facts are the same, slang or not. Not a literal ton, but a figurative ton just the same. In a school the size of Tip, the amount of children who have already left and will continue to leave this summer is significant. With the Javitz grant now revoked and no IWOA test to provide an impartial check of this experimental curriculum, the amount of 5th graders leaving or not returning is most notable. Additionally, the promise of junior high has now officially vanished. Why would any current 5th grader return and why would any 6th grader transfer in?

To Tons wrote on Apr 29, 2008 9:06 AM:I just emailed the dept of education asking about your Javitz RUMOR. Their response was "I'm not sure what you mean by the Javits Grant being revoked. The 2008 competition for new awards under the Javits Gifted and Talented program is currently underway and the deadline for applications is June 5, 2008. Application materials are available on www.grants.gov by searching for CFDA number 84.206"

Now I see why most people who care about TIP ignore this blog. It's full of junk.

mike wrote on Apr 29, 2008 9:39 AM:Thank you Debbie for answering the question for me. Sorry, I was taking a break!

Mat wrote on Apr 29, 2008 9:45 AM:(As in welcome mat):

I've always been able to get straight answers from my kids' EUSD teachers, the staff, and principal. From the types of questions my kids ask, it is clear they have been well-educated. They have been accelerated in subjects when they demonstrated an interest and ability to progress faster. (If test scores matter, my kids have always scored advanced in all areas, although the school's overall test scores are lower than other EUSD schools). They have nice friends, and are happy at their school. I always feel welcome at school and in the classroom. I would not keep my kids at a school if these things were not so.

If the above factors are important to you and you find them lacking at your school, investigate the EUSD schools that have room for transfers, talk to the parents and staff there, and find the best match for your child. If your child has made close friends, maybe they could transfer there with you. You would be welcomed.

To Mat wrote on Apr 29, 2008 12:45 PM:Which school in particular are you speaking of? I was basically told that I should give up on trying to get a transfer into any EUSD school, except my neighborhood school, which I am not too happy with. They are making it hard for us tipsters to leave!

To To Mat wrote on Apr 29, 2008 3:02 PM:That is not what I have heard. I've heard that the district is truly trying to work with the TIP parents, but there are a few factors going on. One, there are a lot of parents trying to transfer out of TIP for next year. Many parents want maybe 1 of 3 schools, so that request is difficult. Some schools are already full. Secondly, there are in-district families that requested a transfer before the EUSD cut-off date. Most TIP parents have applied after this cut-off date. So it is unfair to move families up (mostly TIP families) for their school of choice over families who applied before the cut off date. TIP has been hard both financially and strategically since the start for the district. This is nothing different. Don't blame the district, they did not start this charter school mess.

My Comment wrote on Apr 29, 2008 8:55 PM:Just heard from a friend about this article and its comments as well as everything that has been going on at TIP. WOW! I just wanted to say that my heart goes out to these TIP families. They made a big move for their children to put them there, hoping that it would be a nice fit and well, seems like some people have made it a very difficult situation. I just wanted to say I feel for you. I have heard that this has been very difficult and stressful for people because when they possibly transfer out next year, they will be moving their kids again, possibly to a 3rd different school. My thoughts go out to you and your family. Kids are resilient though and truly your involvement in their education and their lives will mean more than any of this other stuff. I hope you find a nice fit for you and your family. I know this seems very difficult right now, but it will be OK. Your kids are loved and well taken care of and that is more than many children have in this World. We are living in North County, CA, we are all very blessed.

Mat wrote on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM:Responding to "To Mat":

I was speaking of Ocean Knoll.

Ocean Knoll has been declining in enrollment over the past few years, and will accept transfers.

To my comment wrote on Apr 29, 2008 10:26 PM:Wow. What a nice and positive comment! Really! Maybe you could recommend a new school for my kids? I feel like we all need exit counseling to get us through this transition period many of us will be going through. I realize none of this is the fault of EUSD, but it would have been nice if they had publicly and clearly stated their transfer cut-off date. I was shocked to see it was in January. Maybe we could form an ex-tipster anonymous group.

Kay wrote on Apr 29, 2008 10:54 PM:People keep reading these comments because how can you not watch a Trainwreck In Progress (TIP)?

Thank you wrote on Apr 30, 2008 9:36 AM:After seeing all the snide comments about Kool-aid, guinea pigs, train wrecks, etc., I want to offer a sincere thank you to "Mat" and "My Comment" for showing that not all non-TIP parents are mean-spirited. Thank God kids are resilient, because if in the end they have to go to school with the children of some of these posters, they will no doubt need a very thick skin. No amount of traditional OR experimental education can teach our children to be kind or respectful; it is up to all of us as parents to do that.

to Thank you wrote on Apr 30, 2008 12:03 PM:Well said. It is a shame that the animosity cannot be handled in a more mature and respectful way.

Please Reconsider wrote on Apr 30, 2008 12:22 PM:Those who are considering leaving TIP at the end of this year should talk with families that have already pulled out their kids, and are now desperately trying to get them back into TIP

Kay wrote on Apr 30, 2008 2:09 PM:To Thank you:

Oh come on. No one is forcing anyone to read these posts. This is just a place to vent, share information, joke about a tough situation, and sometimes write something that you'd never dare say in public. That's why we're all writing anonymously (although SOME people are having a harder time than others remaining anonymous).

I laughed my head off when those kool-aid and guinea pig vs. sheep comments were carried on wonderfully by TIPsters. (Please comment here more, Tipsy Tipster). If the comments were all sweetness and light, who would read them?

To TIP parents:
I apologize to any TIP parent offended by my train wreck analogy to the collapse of TIP. It was just my opinion of why I keep reading these comments.

I feel absolutely no animosity toward TIP parents or TIP students. They deserve our sympathy and help because, after all, they are the victims of the train wreck caused solely by TIP's administration.

To Please Reconsider wrote on Apr 30, 2008 2:32 PM:Yeah, right. Nice try, Debbie.

To Please Reconsider wrote on Apr 30, 2008 6:29 PM:Debbie, no one is desperately trying to get back into TIP. I know some of the families, and although transition is hard (new friends, new routines) the families are happy they made the change and are not happy by the fact that their children are behind in math - kids that were ahead before the entered TIP.

Really wrote on Apr 30, 2008 6:31 PM:None of this would have happened if the Hazelton's really cared about kids and education as opposed to money and greed. Shame on you for doing this to these TIP families.

Talk to the families wrote on Apr 30, 2008 6:39 PM:Yes, people should call the families who left and ask them why they left, how they are doing now and would they ever return to TIP? Everyone's contact information is in the school directory.

The only thing these families who left are desperately trying to do is catch their kids up on math and grammar to get them to grade level after the flawed TIP curriculum.

Who is desperate here wrote on Apr 30, 2008 7:27 PM:Quoting "Please Reconsider": "families that have already pulled out their kids, and are now desperately trying to get them back into TIP" What a harsh stance to take! Did TIP fill their seats already and they have to beg to get back in? Oh yeah, that waiting list...

If TIP had a warm, open and inviting administration, its position would be: "families left but are now being welcomed back into the TIP family."

Who should leave Tip wrote on Apr 30, 2008 9:25 PM:After reading all the commmands about the problems at Tip, will that be easier to let Mike and Debbi go? Can EUSD involve with the out of control administors' problems? Isn't TIP a public founding shoool?

Not Debbie wrote on Apr 30, 2008 9:54 PM:I am not Debbie. I know for a fact that two families have been trying to get back into the school after leaving. You wouldn't know about that, because I'm sure it is not a mistake they would want to admit. Does resigned PTA president mean anything to you. Go ahead and call, that is, if you really want the truth as opposed to rumor.

Resigned PTA President wrote on May 1, 2008 6:37 AM:Thank you head office administrator for clearing this for everyone!
If it was the truth, wouldn't you take me back to make a point?
Plus, we had no idea that Mike and Debbie are so needy that even you are filling for them!

Wanting back in wrote on May 1, 2008 6:57 AM:'Not Debbie' is right about one family. However, they only pulled their child so he could compete in the county math 24 competition. That family will be back at tIP. Trust me, I speak for many moms at Park Dale Lane, we will be happy to see that family return to TIP, math 24 trophy and all.

Not true wrote on May 1, 2008 8:22 AM:I happen to know the former PTA president was offered the opportunity to return to TIP and she declined.

Wait a minute ... wrote on May 1, 2008 8:29 AM:So you're saying a child from TIP (who was temporarily not from TIP for the purposes of entering the competition) actually won some kind of county-wide math competition?

NOTE TO MIKE AND DEBBIE wrote on May 1, 2008 8:37 AM:Your past does matter, your character does matter and your past will catch up to you. I know you will blame the parents if TIP falls apart, but this is all your own doing. I hope you learn a lesson from all this, but people rarely truly change.

Laughing at hecklers... wrote on May 1, 2008 4:04 PM:Just because you waste your time in here doesn't mean that the Hazelton's do. Enough with the childish impersonations and comments to them.

Question for Wanting back in wrote on May 1, 2008 4:46 PM:The Encinitas District's Math 24 competition isn't until May 15th and the County competition is after that. Is what you meant that you EXPECT this kid may win a trophy at the District contest?

Is this the boy whose mother, a university professor, was TIP's Math 24 drill instructor? And TIP bashes public schools for "teaching to the test"!

Argh wrote on May 1, 2008 4:52 PM:It's "teaching to the test!"

Who will teach th grade next year wrote on May 1, 2008 6:15 PM:Will Mike or Debbie ever consider to teach in 6th grade? We do need a better teacher to lead the 6th grade next year and we do need to know the answer NOW!!!!

math wrote on May 1, 2008 6:43 PM:The TIP math 24 team had their tournament a few weeks ago. However, due to the format they used and the low number of kids participating in each grade, the TIP kids are not eligible to compete at county this year. After this competition, the head of math 24 pulled out of TIP and sent her son to Park Dale Lane. He now has a spot on their team and will now compete at the district and county levels. Obviously it is just pure coincidence.

Question...responding to Argh wrote on May 1, 2008 6:51 PM:I punctuated the sentence correctly. The sentence, not the quotation, is the exclamation. Therefore, the exclamation point should be placed OUTSIDE the quotation marks. (Authority: My son's Encinitas middle school grammar textbook, Holt Handbook: Mastering the California Standards in English, page 324).

Still no money in the TIP budget for English textbooks? Maybe EUSD will give TIP its old ones, like it did with its obsolete science and social studies textbooks.

to Laughing at hecklers... wrote on May 1, 2008 6:51 PM:You are absolutley right. If it were Debbie wasting her time posting, all her posts would start with "if you don't like it leave"!

to Question...responding to Argh wrote on May 1, 2008 7:43 PM:Please don't come here with your correct punctuation and your logic. It is not welcome. Anyone who claims to know punctuation that well should understand that it is much more important to pay Mike Hazelton $95K than to provide up to date text books for TIP students.

people leaving wrote on May 1, 2008 7:50 PM:Why don't you call the Enrichment Club leader personally and ask her why she left (# in the directory), rather than making rude assumptions about her here. Find out your facts before you put someone down who put so many hours in VOLUNTEERING for YOUR kids! How about a little thankfulness?

To people leaving wrote on May 1, 2008 8:57 PM:I totally agree with you. Call Sheila, then Mike and Debbie.... Too many people to thank for. That's the reason we love TIP so much. Are you sure there won't be any charge to call them.

names wrote on May 1, 2008 9:30 PM:Where are the facts? You all seem to fly evil insinuations around without anything substantial but hurt feelings. Do you see the damage you may do with this? Your children? The ones you place in the middle of your dissatifaction. It is so sad to me to see those who would most benefit by this education, being hurt by the ones who love them most. Their parents. My kids have grown by leaps and bounds here. Their voices and individuality have been heard. I feel for those that can not see this. Those who hope to hurt the possibility. I am thinking they must be hurt beyond belief to slam something that has been proven to be so good. Ask the kids. They will tell you. Listen to them. Isn't that what matters.
Go ahead and take yours out if you choose. I trust you will see a difference. I did when I brought my kids here.
But of course since this is a positive note, you will call me Debbie.

names wrote on May 1, 2008 10:03 PM:Oh and on another note. Go ahead and ask about the money, do the research, all the insinuations are interesting to say the least. Or you can even go deeper, the facts are there, just look! Or you can go the other route, imply. Truely, these ones who ask all the questions are needed, to keep things flowing if you will, but I hope they don't burn themselves with their effort to destroy things.

sticks and stones wrote on May 1, 2008 10:06 PM:I don't know why I look at this site, since it makes me feel there is conflict, when I don't actually see conflict on the school site. I am so, so happy, though, that mike decided to return to the classroom so we will only have one administrative salary to pay next year. Finally, a good financial decision made!

To Sticks and Stones wrote on May 1, 2008 10:30 PM:I agree with you. It looks like they are finally making decisions that are for the good of the kids and not themselves. I was so happy to hear this news, too.

To Wanting back in wrote on May 1, 2008 11:06 PM:Read the book. TIP has a "NO RETURN" policy.

To Wanting Back In wrote on May 2, 2008 6:46 AM:Shame on you to Wanting Back In. I am an EUSD parent who welcomes back any TIP family back into our schools. If you have a personal issue with a person or family, why don't you just call them or talk to them personally rather than writing something here anonymously. I am embarrassed for you. And we are shocked and awed when we find out our children and teens are sending bullying text messages to one another. Look at their roll models!

to sticks and stones wrote on May 2, 2008 8:11 AM:I hadn't heard this news yet, but I am so happy to hear Mikey is finally doing something for the good of the school. Does anyone know what grade he will be teaching?

Okay to sticks and stones wrote on May 2, 2008 8:35 AM:Mikey? I see now... This is a childrens' forum. Shouldn't you be in school though?

to to sticks and stones wrote on May 2, 2008 12:11 PM:He'll be teaching whatever grade your child is in ... still happy?

Wise Up wrote on May 2, 2008 2:36 PM:The world according to Mike:

"Charters have redefined the term “public education”, and parents and community members have chosen to react to this change in different ways. Some see this as adversarial, but we don’t. It may seem like a paradox, but if two individuals or systems compete with each other, both will improve and benefit through competition. One system made be perceive the winner or one ahead, but both systems are benefiting.

Who is benefiting of all these? Wise words from Friday communication!

whatever wrote on May 2, 2008 2:46 PM:For all you negative parents, I did hear that Mike was a good math teacher and we do need someone strong in math. Maybe he'll take the 6th grade opening and boost the upper grade math program. I don't have a problem with him TEACHING my child, but I don't think we need him as a director. He is making a good choice and this should help the morale at the school.

Who does benefit wrote on May 2, 2008 3:13 PM:The Hazelton's are benefiting to the tune of over $200k a year. That is unless they got a raise at their performance review at the closed session board meeting last month.

tipsy tipster wrote on May 2, 2008 5:33 PM:Let's raise those cups of kool-aid in a toast to Mike! Yeah! TIP has been saved (or is this just a ploy to keep more people from leaving)? Hmmm...better drink more of my kool-aid while I contemplate this one.

to names wrote on May 2, 2008 7:13 PM:Tell me WHY you think these posts are "evil insinuations"? Do you REALLY think that nothing here is TRUE? Have you really done your research on the facts? The only damage being done here is the ignorant people that think one dimensionally. Everyone needs to look at ALL the information and make an educated assessment. Hopefully is what you do when you vote!
Realize, It takes a lot to keep your child at a school where you personally struggle with the management but have to morally support it for the sake of the children. Not all of "us" have put our kids in the middle of this conflict.
Additionally, TIP may be great for you and your child but it's still a NEW RESEARCH school that hasn't proven it's academics. That will take years!! It's scary to hear about the kids that have left TIP are now struggling with math. Are you going to turn your head from that too?
Be smart, not emotional! If you want TIP to survive you too would look at issues more objectively and ask for answers.
By the way, all I hear from my kids is 'now so and so left..why are all these kids leaving?'

Its almost over wrote on May 2, 2008 8:00 PM:http://www.eusd.k12.ca.us/about/board/pdf/May%205,%202008SpecMtg.pdf

EUSD Board Meeting wrote on May 2, 2008 8:10 PM:Check out the special board meeting on Cinco de Mayo

good decisions wrote on May 2, 2008 10:26 PM:bizarre, returning to the classroom? I thought he was supposed to be COO material. This reminds me of an old saying from academia "those who can't teach"
Isn't there a better Kaplan-trained applicant? Or, was the job opening not posted? Weird business operations; no wonder the school is always being questioned. Is this part of an experiment in administrating a school too? Looking forward to open response.

EUSD steps in wrote on May 3, 2008 7:21 AM:Check out the district web site to see item 7a of their May 5th meeting agenda. Also see the new NC Times article from this morning.

Saturday article wrote on May 3, 2008 10:26 AM:Check out the article in todays NC Times. EUSD is stepping up to the plate.

Finally wrote on May 3, 2008 12:27 PM:EUSD is finally going to shut this disaster down. Amen!

names wrote on May 3, 2008 12:33 PM:I have done the research and that is why I can call it insinuations. Of course transparency is needed, but still to continue to slander without backing up any claims could be seen as evil. I have seen the math, I also investigated that. It is a problem solving method, one that many districts use, including Encinitas, Oceanside, Carlsbad, Poway and Del Mar Union. The only issue is that many teachers don't take the time to incorporate this training into their curriculum-worksheets are easier. Go ahead and look. It is not voodoo math. It is actually asking the children to understand their math. The only difference is you will not see worksheets. From what I have seen in the classrooms, it truely is the best of the best. It incorporates all positive aspects of education. Trust me, I would never put my children blindly into a situation that I did not deem worthy. Yet I have seen some parents use their children as pawns to be moved around due to their disstisfaction. How sad! Yet I hope we can both agree that our ultimate goal is to see TIP survives. The question is what is needed to ensure this.

to names wrote on May 3, 2008 3:53 PM:What exactly have you researched because all the information I have in front of makes it pretty hard to say it's "insinuations". I believe in giving everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, but with all the information piling against Mike and how the Hazlenton's choose not to address them say's guilty as charged. Explain to me why they haven't come clean? Thanks to EUSD the Hazleton's are now forced to address ALL of the concerns, and if they're "insinuations" well then Halzeton's have nothing to worry about.
Regarding the math, you must have a different teacher as my child's hasn't learned some of the BASIC math needed in everyday life. Might I add my child isn't a "low achiever". Perhaps TIP's theory is a bit too extensive and not basic enough? It could be that this method isn't the "ideal" way to learn? We all need to be able to accept this too.
One thing is for sure, if the individuals that had the guts to step-up an speak their minds never did, TIP would certainly be shut down. Thanks to all of those that questioned authority! That to me is a true scholarly trait!

Thoughts wrote on May 3, 2008 4:22 PM:Many of these posts seem to be driven by hate. In my experience, hate is the product of fear.
The question begs to be asked: Why do parents (who are so fearful of the administration and who claim to hate TIP Academy, its curriculum, and its practices) continue to send their children there? Bloggers point out that some families have left, but the two people quoted in today's newspaper article continue to keep their children at the school. The research I have seen does not bear out their claims. That leads me to wonder if their motives are driven by a desire for power and control?
The newspaper article today says that one former board member filed the complaint. Yet not one solid shred of evidence of mismanagement, or illegal activity, has been provided. There are no court rulings that show that the Hazeltons have committed any crimes, or have colluded to defraud anyone. If EUSD had felt that the funds were being mismanaged previously, wouldn't there be a paper trail? Is EUSD only responding to this now out of fear of this school's potential for greater success?

wrote on May 3, 2008 4:24 PM:Where did the rumor about Mike moving into the classroom come from?

Snack is served wrote on May 3, 2008 4:25 PM:For your dining pleasure, koolaid and chocolate pudding is now being served 24/7 on the other article's blog. Enjoy!

Wow wrote on May 3, 2008 6:18 PM:A friend of mine said that EUSD contacted her to choose any school in the district and her kids' teachers if she pulled her kids from TIP...

more kool-aid please wrote on May 3, 2008 10:13 PM:Is it just coincidental that Mike is suddenly leaving his administrative post just as he is being investigated by EUSD? Could he have known this was coming and this is their way to prove their financial status next year will be better?

Also, about the people who are complaining but still have their kids there. These people are pointing out facts, not complaining. And, of course they care for their kids, so they are probably just trying to get through this year.

names wrote on May 3, 2008 10:20 PM:If the math is not basic enough then there is your answer. TIP is not the right place for you. If your child is not cutting it then ask your self if they are doing the work that is required of them. Thinking is a huge factor in learning. Sometimes when things are hard, people stop themselves from going through the process. The math is actually pretty amazing if you allow yourself to think through it,
The whole issue on transparency needs to be addressed and I agree with that, just be careful of what you say. So many have benefited from this school.

Drink Water wrote on May 3, 2008 10:33 PM:Mike isn't leaving his administrative post.

State some facts. I still have only heard or seen allusions to rumors. Making accusations doesn't equate to facts.

Mike teaching is a rumor wrote on May 3, 2008 10:40 PM:I bet it is a rumor. Although this one he should be happy with. It insinuates that he is actually bright enough to teach. Oh wait a minute, I bet they have him teaching the new traffic safety course. That might be true after all!

to Wow wrote on May 4, 2008 5:42 PM:Does that surprise you? It seems that the EUSD would not pass any opportunity to shut TIP down.