JUAN wrote on Apr 11, 2008 11:36 PM:HOW COME THERE'S A LOT OF COPS IN FALLBROOK TODAY AND HOW COME THERE NOT HERE WHEN YOU NEED THEM TO SHUT UP MY NEIGHBORS ON THE WEEKEND BECAUSE THEY DRINK AND PLAY LOUD MUSIC AT A LATE TIME. WHEN I CALL SHERIFF DEPARTMENT THEY SAY THEY WILL SEND SOMEONE BUT NOBODY EVER SHOWS UP ON TIME OR AT ALL.

hmmmm wrote on Apr 12, 2008 12:35 AM:Thats because often they have more important things to attend to and dont wanna waste their time telling people to not enjoy themselves during their weekend just because you dont like it. Get some earplugs if it bothers you that much.

Juan wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:00 AM:Why don't you call or go to your neighbors and tell them to shut up.

unknown wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:23 AM:he is a 16 or 17 year old guy

VC Resident wrote on Apr 12, 2008 6:27 AM:Its the same in Valley Center. Drive by a restaurant and there are 4 sheriff's vehicles parked out front but if you call because your neighbor's dog is attacking your livestock, they stand there and watch. I think they just don't feel like filling out the paperwork so they don't respond.

to juan wrote on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 AM:Have you ever thought of getting to know your neighbors?....then you would be able to express to them your concerns and you could avoid calling the sheriff's department all together.

sev wrote on Apr 12, 2008 8:40 AM:Its about time these young gang bangers stop running around thinking they are invincible. maybe this will open their eyes. didn't they attack dude with a bat?

Nicki wrote on Apr 12, 2008 10:11 AM:Didn't anyone read the article the other day on violent crime statistics here in North County? The once peaceful and small town of Fallbrook is now 2nd behind Vista in violent crime. It must be all those skin-head gangs that keep popping up.....LOL.

unkown wrote on Apr 12, 2008 11:37 AM:stop braging and start haveing some fun stop watching your neighbors and find something to do.

Tatum B. wrote on Apr 12, 2008 11:57 AM:Ok, it is so sad that all the young teens all in my age group have to go out thinking they are bad or cool"sporting their town". . . "throwing up their town". . .and just point blank "gang bangin" . Why cant they just snap out of it and realize that when they shoot or beat another person that their family has to go through their possible death, or hospital bills. This scares me to even bring my little 4 year old brother into town, because what if I get mistaken for another person and they beat me up or shoot me. Then what is he going to do? He doesnt know! he is only 4 years old. Come on now people! Snap out of it!

please

enough people die of dtupid stuff!

PEACE AND LOVE

*TATUM*

fhs04 wrote on Apr 12, 2008 12:57 PM:These thugs that are running around "The Friendly Village", care about nothing. They will continue this kind of behavior until someone steps up and shows them that they will pay for their actions. The citizens of Fallbrook need to band together and stop this nonsense. Its seems like this is happening way to often.

TaMi wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:22 PM:People do need to realize that we arent invinsable!..
anything can hurt us weather its a bat or a gun.. we will still get hurt..
fighting over "you town" like tatum said is pointless!.. WE ALL LIVE IN ONE WORLD!
why not get along!..
we only live for sooo long then its over.. some go to heaven some dont!..
Fallbrook used to be a sweet little crimeless town!.. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED!.. you can barely walk down friggin main street without getting picked!.

To: hmmmm wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:28 PM:From: Ron, I would love to see the look on your face the day you call the cops because someone just shot up your car only because it was "WEEKEND FUN". And NO ONE shows until the next day. How are those EAR PLUGS working out for you now?!?!?!?!?

Grew up in Fallbrook wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:31 PM:I grew up in Fallbrook and it is not the same. Fallbrook once was a great place to raise a family, but now it is not. It has become more for the retired. There is nothing for the kids that live in the town to do, and it does not take long for kids to walk down Main St and find someone that is selling pot or pills. There has to be something done for the kids other then letting them find their own entertainment...or death by drugs. It is not just kids getting beat up or shot Tatum B. it is drugs also, and being a teenager, you know what I am talking about. Kids talk at school about what the got, or what they are going to get, or if you want some. It makes me sick, the town that was once safe for kids....is killing them.
Good luck to the future children of the town, and their children.

~Grew up in Fallbrook~

thatoneguy wrote on Apr 12, 2008 2:41 PM:how weird i was in Carl's junior around that time and i didnt hear anything and saw nothing except for a lot of police

thatoneguy wrote on Apr 12, 2008 2:49 PM:I live in fallbrook and was even born in this once great town and am living here recently but its true fallbrook aint what it used to be i used to be able to go to friends houses without being paranoided and having to look over my shoulder. and for ~Grew up in Fallbrook~ i agree with you i am a teenager livin in fallbrook and there really isnt nothin to do in town but hang out with friends and stay away from those who use drugs but i believe if the police would crack down on the "gangsters and drug users" this town would be the once great one it used to be

FALK RESIDENT wrote on Apr 12, 2008 3:09 PM:THANK HAVEN FOR THE COPS HERE DOING THEIR JOB AND GETTING THESE PUNKS OFF THE STREETS... I ALSO HAVE A FAMILY HERE AND THEY DO RIDE THEIR BIKES IN TOWN, JUST 2 WKS AGO AT CARLS JR. MY SON FRIENDS BIKE WAS STOLDEN THERE.. WHY DON'T THESE PUNKS TRY GOING TO CHURCH..... ASN START CHANGEING THEIR LIVES BEFORE ITS TO LATE FOR THEM MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE BOY@FAMILY WHO GKOT SHOT

for all of u guys wrote on Apr 12, 2008 3:24 PM:well nothin of this would been happening if any of u people would be helping us creating somethin to have fun with right
so like a skate park or somethin like that cuz if we are skating around the cops show up and tell us to leave cuz there is not damn place to skate so yeah
u guys should realy make anthin fun for us so nothin of this would be happening so thats what i think so yeah

Fallbrook21 wrote on Apr 12, 2008 4:55 PM:This is incredible. A 16 year old kid was SHOT in the head. He was shot. I can't imagine what his parents are feeling right now. It is absurd to read people complain about the "gang banging" in Fallbrook when someone so devastating has happened here. Instead of complaining about the gang banging, why don't we clean up the streets. Why aren't there more people going into the "bad" neighborhoods, cleaning them up, educating kids...instead of looking at them and automatically assuming what their life will be like by the time they're 15 years old.
There is an obvious divide here in town, and now with more houses being built, more people coming in, we are to expect more problems to occur, yes? But when a 16 year old gets shot in front of a busy intersection IN PLAIN DAYLIGHT, there is definitely a problem.
May that kid get out of the hospital with at least his sanity. You know he's not going to be "normal" once he's out. Hoepfully they find who did this to him and settle what really happened.

Fallbrook Res wrote on Apr 12, 2008 4:59 PM:I know the youth. He is not a gang banger as some of you think. He is only another youth who is a product of and a victim of a violent society all around.

Product wrote on Apr 12, 2008 5:05 PM:Violence exists in every community in America. Fallbrook is no exception. There is violence everywhere you go. Black, white, brown communities. And our government is especially violent. Martin Luther King himself said the U.S. Government was the greatest purveyer of violence on earth. Many of the violent video games that our youth love so much are backed by the US military. So violence is a symptom of this country, not any one community.

Raised in Fallbrook wrote on Apr 12, 2008 5:07 PM:Whoever said Fallbrook was such a quiet and peaceful place? Up until recently, Fallbrook has been the hometown of the openly violent White Aryan Resistance, and I saw how the Latino community was terrorized by this group between the 80s and 90s. It wasn't until the Latino youth stood up against this racism that the violence decreased drastically for this community. Also, when you average it out, there have been more police related shootings in Fallbrook than any so called "gang-related" shootings.

Re: for all of u guys wrote on Apr 12, 2008 6:55 PM:Wow, This is a perfect example of your "Give them a Time out,but don't discipline them" and "Children's rights first above all things and at ALL cost" generation. This is just one example. There is so much wrong with this post and the attitude behind it that I don't even want to start.

ultimate warrio wrote on Apr 12, 2008 7:46 PM:Normal people, the people that walk the streets every day, we cannot understand!

re: for all of u guys wrote on Apr 12, 2008 8:05 PM:Pity you don't spend as much time in school as you apparently spend "skating". Maybe a "comic" book format for textbooks would entertain and educate you at the same time!

Brook Town wrote on Apr 12, 2008 9:43 PM:Fallbrook used to be a one gang town. The local gang would just do stupid things like tagging and maybe a stabbing here and there if some Vista Home Boy was dumb enought to come north. Over the last few years, the gang injunctions in surrounding areas have forced other gangsters into moving. What better place to move than Fallbrook? Close to home, not near as many cops, plenty of naive citizens to take advantage of, and a relatively weak Hispanic gang to deal with. Thanks to all these gang injunctions, Fallbrook now has transplanted gang members from Oceanside, Escondido, San Marcos, and Vista. We don't really need any Deep Valley Crips in Fallbrook but now we have them. Thanks alot Oceanside. I'm suprised there is not more violant gang crime in Fallbrook than there is. Do any of you know that violent crime in Fallbrook rose this past year? Gee, I wonder why?

vick tim wrote on Apr 12, 2008 9:52 PM:a few years ago i was shot in fallbrook, in front of my parents house. That town no matter how great is ruined for me. it sucks but it's true. I moved to where i feel safer (away from the cops) and the kids with guns. The cops blamed me mostly for the shooting a victim because of my name alone. Think about the people you pay to protect you and see who they really are protecting (there own pockets). I love fallbrook, born and raised, but i will never live there again.

YO wrote on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM:the shooter was a black man. their were like a million eye witnesses and the article says no description was available. the kid that got shot is my friend, its a trip that this happen to him. one love

To: YO wrote on Apr 12, 2008 11:20 PM:Sorry about your friend, But the real trip is how 1,000,000 people fit in that area, I hope that the other 999,999 witnesses will "like" be a little more accurate than you, Then maybe they can catch the shooter.

JCLU wrote on Apr 12, 2008 11:42 PM:What ever the race the other person was I just hope that there is no retaliation

resident of FLBK wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:58 AM:everyone is talking about a change but no one is willing to act.. how many times have you heard of a stabbing at robertitos, i have had a friend stabbed 9 times at circle k, it is outrageous that the community of fallbrook has allowed gangs and violence to terrorize this once respected and desirable town. something needs to be done.

OCEANSIDE wrote on Apr 13, 2008 5:37 AM:YOU ARE WELCOME FALLBROOK.

hello newspaper wrote on Apr 13, 2008 6:04 AM:we kind of need a lil bit more information on this thing there are people that realy want to know how this guy is doing and u guys have the same thing over and over again we need more info cuz his friends care and want to know more about how he is doing

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrote on Apr 13, 2008 7:03 AM:that sucks for the victim himself and the shooter when he gets caught

To Juan wrote on Apr 13, 2008 7:21 AM:I feel your pain over the loud partying--people who tell you to buy earplugs have never experienced the hell of living in a party zone neighborhood. I could be deaf and and would still feel the earth shaking--a boom boom boom that just turns my insides to quivering mush. I've heard the claim that that kind of concussive action actually changes the composition of the metal in cars, so if that's true, think what it's doing to us. As for the shooting, we don't know yet what happened--totally random stuff can happen. And will continue to happen as long as the "little things," like loud disrespectful partying in a neighborhood are ignored by those who are supposed to protect taxpayers from being intruded upon in their homes. I would not want to live somewhere with no neighbors, I like having neighbors, but for this to work, there need to be uniform and respectful guidelines for behavior. And as for not complaining directly to the people who bother us--people who spend their weekends shouting and drinking and jiving to loud viagra music in large groups outside of their houses are lacking in something and are not people I personally would be comfortable approaching and discussing what they are doing. On the contrary, in fact, I fear drawing their attention to me at all in any way whatsoever.

james wrote on Apr 13, 2008 9:02 AM:This horrible situation has nothing to do with Church, or religion or drugs. This was an act of violence that came from someone who needs to go to prison for a very long time. Would we feel better if the teenager was stabbed or beat neraly to death with the baseball bat?
The genuine issue is all about parenting. Know where your teenager is and who they hang out with. If the teenager is heading in the wrong direction the paretn needs to sprint ahead and cut them off. Gangs can not exist without gang members. Teenagers can not belong to gangs if they are held in the house by parents or grabbed by the scruff of the neck and physically separated from the gang by a parnet. The police are not the parents. The gangs can not be allowed to take the place of parents. The teenager needs to have his options planned and his butt in structured programs. The highschool is filled with sports and arts. get your kids invloved. For thoise kids in gangs, parents get them off the streetsw now before they end up in Jail or on the parking lot tarmac with a bullet from a gang member or a cop in their body. Stop blaming the teenager or the perceived lack of things to do in the town, what a corck. Blame the parents, it is their responsibility, it is their child.

To hmmmm at 12:35am wrote on Apr 13, 2008 9:58 AM:Please figure out another way to identify yourself without taking my blog handle.

Flattering as it is to be imitated yet find your own path to speak and others may find what you have to say just as interesting.

Linda wrote on Apr 13, 2008 11:31 AM:Everyone of us is entitled to a peaceful life. Our day to day lives may not always include this, but we are still entitled. It is not to much to ask of anyone to be courteous to your neighbors. Everyone is entitled to a party once in a while, a celebration is a wonderful part of our lives. Every Weekend though, is stretching it a bit to far.Remember if you will,that when you feel upset about someone else's behavior, try to walk in their shoes first. Do unto others as you would have them do unto YOU. Pretty simple rule wouldn't you say?
To the young person who fired the gun into a fellow teenagers head, did he really deserve to be critically wounded or even die for the reason you had in your head at the time. Did he not deserve a life, one that goes on beyond 16 years. No children or family or even possibly becoming your best buddy later on, If you had stopped to think and walk in his shoes for just a moment, today would feel a lot better than it does. It only takes one split second to ruin your life and someone else's. I am betting you wish you could use a time machine and go back and NOT do what you did.
At that moment in front of Carls's Jr. you were angry for some reason, a reason so powerful that you felt that is was your duty to take a life. So angry that everything else in the world was not important. Only your feelings of anger. Are you still that angry? What are you feeling right now. Remember your gang family is not going to jail, you are. They are not going to be there for you. The reason is that they were never your family to begin with. I am sorry you thought they were.
As far as blaming parents etc. Blame is a word that is used far to much.It is amazing how quick we are to blame someone or something . Blame this , blame that, it gets a bit old.Blame leads us to live in the past, and that is where you will stay. Moving forward in a positive way is where you need to go. The gang members you see most likely will not have responsible parents to guide them, that is why they are in gangs. It is to bad that a gang has to become the family they as humans inherently need. I would suggest researching the whole psychology of gangs to begin with. Looking to their parents is like getting blood from a turnip. So for the complainers out there, I have always said ,"if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the polution" And yes it does take a village to raise a child. Do your part if you can, step up to the plate.

ok wrote on Apr 13, 2008 11:33 AM:does anyone know the name of the victim?

Goo wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:19 PM:What's the status of the so called victim?

YO wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:44 PM:Well, umm my friend is gonna be alright, am not gonna say his name. They are pulling the bullet out tomorrow, theirs no serious damage, no brain damage. He was shot with a 22 caliber. It just wasnt his time to die.

esteban wrote on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 PM:Juan, because no one cares about your petty problems.

ME!!!!! wrote on Apr 13, 2008 2:52 PM:MAN SUCK IT UP.. .... I THAT PERSON WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE && WRONG TIME!! IF YOU DONT LIKE THE ENVIROMENT, MOVE OUTTA FALLBROOK... YOU REALLY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE RIGHT? PLUS EVERYWHERE YOU GO THERES VIOLENCE! WETHER YOU GO TO TEMECULA, OCEANSIDE, ESCO, MURRIETA, ANYWHERE! EITHER WAY NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TELL A PERSON TO STOP.. THEIR NOT GONNA LISTEN, EVERYONE DOES WHAT THEY WANNA DO RIGHT?

Ben wrote on Apr 13, 2008 3:07 PM:To: Juan, If you don't already know, esteben is a regular on blogs, He is a ... man who insults to make himself feel better, But unlike this human-wanna-be, A lot of us do care how others feel. Hang in there.

Fallbrookperson wrote on Apr 13, 2008 3:51 PM:The crapping out of fallbrook is merely a side-effect of North County becoming too crowded. Most of us, or our parents, for those of us who weren't born here, moved here because it was quiet, kick-back, and not crowded. Now it's a hell hole in the making! My family moved to central oregon, and I'll be joining them soon....

Ernest wrote on Apr 13, 2008 4:37 PM:Before "unkown" (I think he meant unknown--and I can understand why he wouldn't use his name--decides to write to a paper's website, perhaps he should go back to elementary school to learn to spell. Then maybe what he writes would be taken seriously.
Most likely not, however.

esteban wrote on Apr 13, 2008 5:47 PM:To "ME!!!"...take your ghetto trash self somewhere else. You write at a 2nd grade level...seriously.

To: Ernest wrote on Apr 13, 2008 6:52 PM:To be perfect, Wow, That must be a great burden to carry around. How do you do it? Can I get your autograph? Your my hero! And I was only going to write about this tragic shooting.

Ray H wrote on Apr 13, 2008 7:39 PM:WTG Linda! Our community could use some more folks like you. :)

with Ernest wrote on Apr 13, 2008 8:02 PM:Same goes for "Yo"

Hey Esteban... wrote on Apr 13, 2008 10:22 PM:I mean, Nastyban, GET LOST!!!!

to: BROOK TOWN wrote on Apr 13, 2008 11:19 PM:YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD!

to: to: Ernest wrote on Apr 14, 2008 5:18 AM:Same goes for you, as well as "Yo" and "Me!!!!!. "Your" my hero!? You should have cracked a few books when you were in school. Those books were probably too heavy a burden for you to carry around.

Brook-ian wrote on Apr 14, 2008 8:22 AM:No skate park, or after school program is gonna fix a problem that starts in the home or non-home of these youths. The real problem is the mentality of the parents of these kids never gave them a chance to learn respect now we have to depend on the police and the state to try and do that and we all know they cant get that job done and we cant afford to pay for it even if they could. ... lets get back to the core beliefs this country once had so we can teach the next generation how to exterminate the problems we just let fester in our tenure

Wake up Fallbrook wrote on Apr 14, 2008 8:31 AM:Prostitution, pimps, gang violence, murder, rape, car jackings, burglary, robbery, human trafficking are all apart of Fallbrook now. Thanks to??

esteban wrote on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 AM:Sorry bro, ain't going nowhere!!! I am going to stay here and be a defender of common sense and an enemy of idiocy.

Sorry Fallbrook wrote on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 AM:WOW!!! I used to think of Fallbrook as a great place to live!!! It has to start at home. If you have parents that blantenly break the law, it's likely to pass on to the children. To some people it's on what you can get away with, not what's lawful.

kathy wrote on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 AM:It never ceases to amaze me! there are people out there that think they have the right to disturb the peace with loud parties and barking dogs. If you complain, they tell you to buy earplugs. If you guys want to blast your music, put on headphones!! BTW, where would we all be if everyone's dog let loose with the barking????

To Ernest@5:18AM wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 AM:That was way to easy,I rest my case!

EVERYWHERE... wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 AM:This is happening ALL over the World,so a little town like Fallbrook is no exception,LINDA SAID IT ALL..let's do our part.

C'mon! wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:13 AM:It isn't just Fallbrook or Temecula or any where else.

Life in the good old USA isn't what it used to be. Heck, not even as good as 15 years ago.

Do your part people. Uphold the law and report those who don't. More importantly, make your vote count this next election.

Ben wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:32 AM:esteban, "..defender of common sense and an enemy of idiocy". Good to hear you found your special purpose, Do you dry clean your cape and mask or just wash them yourself? So, how about answering my question from before Mister wanna be grammar teacher, How do you know? Oh thats right, you said you weren't "responding to my ignorant posts". And if you do, that would show you to be a lire and not a man of your word, What a paradox for you! Good dodge!

MOMOF4 wrote on Apr 14, 2008 10:50 AM:My prayers go out to the family of the victim and the shooter. Because once the shooter is MAN enough to account for his actions his family will need prayers too. It is sad our youth is having to be scared to attend high school in Fallbrook, for just these reasons. What is scary is after talking to my son and his girlfriend the sad part is, it didn't surprise them. They said knives and guns (along with the drugs) are a daily occurence on this campus. Where is the security? What is going on to where these kids are allowed to carry such things to school? Start busting them and throwing them out of school as the policy states! Our children have learned the right to a good education and if they are fearing for what may happen to them at school, how are they supposed to concentrate and learn!
God bless the victim and my prayers are for a quick and full recovery!

Concerned-1 wrote on Apr 14, 2008 12:09 PM:One thing is for sure, Fallbrook schools have fallen way short in educating the posters on this blog. Maybe if they read more, they'd know better than to play with guns and baseball bats.

To Juan wrote on Apr 14, 2008 12:41 PM:The cops won't do anything about it. You see, they are not the ones who has to listen to it all the time. Besides, it would take a little ambition to pull them away from that donut shop!!

Seriously? wrote on Apr 14, 2008 2:58 PM:I would like to remind you all that this blog started because a 16 year old boy was shot this weekend. How unbelievably self-absorbed to be getting involved in petty arguments about things such as spelling! If you put your efforts into coming up with solutions and supporting each other instead of bringing each other down, maybe this community could start addressing the real issues at hand.

To To Juan wrote on Apr 15, 2008 6:53 AM:Yes, the cops won't do anything about it. In my neighborhood. They treat loud party calls different in different parts of Escondido in a city wide effort to keep the problems concentrated in certain areas and protect the quality of life in others. The Mayor in particular is an advocate of different rules in different areas of Esco. There is a word for this but the NCT won't allow it to be posted.

mEhhh! wrote on Apr 15, 2008 4:02 PM:GOD BLESS THE VICTIM AND HIS FAMILY!!

BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.. HE WILL CHANGE YOUR HEART AND GUIDE YOUR WAY!!

MR. YO!! wrote on Apr 15, 2008 7:14 PM:Please everyone stop calling this 16 year old a victim. He's not a victim if he jumped out of a car in the middle of traffic to start beating a man with a bat. That's why he got shot. If someone started swinging a bat at me and I had a gun I would do the same thing. This kid is a punk who hopefully learned his lesson, It kids like that who grow up and make it unsafe for my kids to walk the streets.

MR..YO wrote on Apr 15, 2008 7:20 PM:Please everyone stop calling this 16 year old a victim. He's not a victim if he jumped out of a car in the middle of traffic to start beating a man with a bat. That's why he got shot. If someone started swinging a bat at me and I had a gun I would do the same thing. This kid is a punk who hopefully learned his lesson, It kids like that who grow up and make it unsafe for my kids to walk the streets.

Rez wrote on Apr 15, 2008 9:29 PM:Well Mr Yo got it right he did do all that and i hope he did and he is going to stop all of that becuase he dose cause alot of drama