Ward wrote on Apr 15, 2008 7:19 PM:Is Cindy Sheehan getting paid for her "visit"? If that is the case, CSUSM is way out of bounds for supporting a political candidate.

Demetria wrote on Apr 15, 2008 8:24 PM:The college Republican Club wants a broader spectrum of voices? How about liar Bush and the WMD? How about the torturer group--Rummy, Cheney, Rice...How about all the generals and admiral that had to "retire" because they didn't agree with the "Commander in Chief", you know the emblem he wears on his socks...How about some of the widows or orphans we created in Iraq. How about a soldier who has not had any health care? There is SO much to be broad about!

aDAMANT wrote on Apr 15, 2008 8:39 PM:Hey Demetria. Think of all the good we are doing in Iraq. Soldiers give their lives every day for us and for other people. You think that Bush lies becuase the of the media and their continued liberal biases. The torture group? What are you talking about? We are right to use torture for information. And to think what they would do to you if the Iraqis caught you. Beheadings are the answer. They would torture us more worse than we to them. God Bless this country.

Demetria wrote on Apr 15, 2008 9:26 PM:Sorry aDamant, but God will never bless a country that does not follow the teachings of His Son, the non-violent, pacifist, liberal.

Chris wrote on Apr 15, 2008 10:21 PM:Hey aDamant. what good have we done in Iraq. The infrastructure is destroyed, corruption in rampant (check out the 60 minutes program for this last sunnday). Four million people have left their homes and are now refugees. Hundereds of thousands of Iraqis are dead and several times that wounded. The country is run by the militias and not this so-called Iraqi government and we are paying these militia millions of dollars a month so that they won't attack our troops. You have no idea what is going on. These people were far better off under Hussein. I just love how you talk about cutting off heads and yet you don't care about all the people burned up or blown to pieces by our bombs. I just hope that none of you bush supporters vent your hatred for Sheehan because she deserves a lot of respect. Just save all your hatred and vitriol for Obama, illegal aliens, homosexuals, liberals and muslims. This war has shown me what all these concervatives are about and as far as I am concerned it is all about HATE.

To Demetria: wrote on Apr 15, 2008 10:31 PM:You never addressed the reasonable request of the Republican Club for the university to allow a broader spectrum of voices. All you did was rant about your political affiliation. I,too, am a liberal CSUSM student, but your argument above does not help the cause. I'm all for having opposing views expressed, but unfortunately, I don't see that happening at CSUSM.

Not true, Demetria... wrote on Apr 15, 2008 10:38 PM:God has blessed this country immensely in its short 200+ year history more than any other country in recent history. The bible says that God will bless those who bless His chosen people, Israel. We are the most powerful nation in the world and Israel's closest ally. God has poured His blessings upon the USA - the evidence is everywhere. It's illogical for you to deny that.

Genny wrote on Apr 15, 2008 11:12 PM:I have so much love for my country and I believe so much in its democratic and human rights ideals that I believe that to torture others debases us as a nation. It destroys our moral center and it destroys our standing in the international community. Torture is immoral and cowardly. We are above it. Some other nations may not be, but we are. For those of you who would betray what you know to be right and condone torture because you fear attack, here's some advice. Cowboy up. Defend our country's ideals. Countries always will be attacked at some time or another. That's when our morals are most important.

Nicholas wrote on Apr 16, 2008 4:48 AM:For Matthew Dobler:

Sheehan not qualified to speak about the war in Iraq?

Mr. Dobler, have you had an immediate family member killed in this war? Have you traveled Jordan and personally talked with members of the Iraqi parliament about the war? Have you traveled to Jordan and personally talked with some of the million Iraqi refugees fleeing Iraq because of the U.S occupation of their country? Have you traveled literally from coast to coast in the U.S. and listened to what Americans are really thinking and saying about this war? Have you traveled to five European countries and Australia to listen to what people there are thinking and saying about this war?

Yes, I think that qualifies Sheehan to speak about the war in Iraq.

Expat Doug wrote on Apr 16, 2008 4:51 AM:The nerve of that Sheehan woman, going around the country preaching the virtues of peace over war! How unAmerican, how unChristian...no wonder everyone hates her!

To Demetria wrote on Apr 16, 2008 6:49 AM:If this Country is so bad why don't you move to Iran.

to WARD wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:20 AM:The Associated Student Body and/or other on-campus groups (not the University itself) is supposed to pay to have various speakers from different political perspectives come speak at the campus. It's not paid out of your tax dollars.

figures wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:23 AM:Figures you bloggers turn this into a Christian vs. Non-Christian issue. Are we in San Diego or Texas?

Republicans=wrong wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:42 AM:I believe CSUSM was the site of Republican Duke Cunningham's address to the public concerning his decision not to run for office again. I applaud CSUSM for allowing a broad range of voices to be heard...even thoseof convicted republican criminals such as the dukester.

Stop talking Demetria wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:25 AM:Demetria, I am very liberal myself but your nutty, angry, aggressive, bitter, rant does nothing to help. Socks, Rummy, orphans- what does that have to do with CSUSM's guest speaker? Go back to your NPR because you are no help-

Not Right wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:29 AM:This is entirely inappropriate. This woman has no credentials and no expertise, to speak of. No mother wants to lose a child, for any reason, and some are driven to take up a cause, in their grief. Cindy Sheehan has gone way beyond acceptable behavior, and I think the best thing anyone can do for her is to love her and guide her towards counseling and saving faith in Christ. BTW - Calling Christ non-violent is an indication of a lack of knowledge of the Son. After all, He overturned the tables of the money-changers, and took up a whip to drive them out of the temple. He also said we are to hate evil, and He preached discipline. Yes, you are to love your enemy, which would include disciplining them, just as you would discipline your child, because you love them.

esteban wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:36 AM:Anytime I write a rebuttle to Chris' crazy views, NCT refuses to print it. Maybe he works there?

Stop talking Demetria wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:42 AM:Demetria, I am very liberal myself but your nutty, angry, aggressive, bitter, rant does nothing to help. Socks, Rummy, orphans- what does that have to do with CSUSM's guest speaker? Go back to your NPR because you are no help-

Uh wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:47 AM:Remember our Constitution and free speech? If you don't like what she has to say, don't go.

Huh ? wrote on Apr 16, 2008 9:00 AM:aDAMANT at 8:39 PM quips: "They would torture us more worse than we do them." Not sure if this is a direct quote from a George W. Bush speach, or not, but suspect that if aDAMANT were to more gooder the English learn to write, the more seriously his misinformed opinions we would take.

Chris wrote on Apr 16, 2008 10:42 AM:So Not Right says that Sheehan doesn't have the credentials to speak. No it is better to have people with credentials speaking eventhough they are lying and covering up their criminal actions. Why does a person have to have some of these credentials (whatever they are) in order to criticize the criminal actions of our employees (yes Bush is just an employee eventhoug some what to make him god). We all know this war was based on lies and anybody that says different is lying. So I ask Not Right why Sheehan doesn't have the right to criticize our president who caused the death of her son because he lied to the American people about why we need to start a war.

Chris wrote on Apr 16, 2008 10:47 AM:So Stop talking Demetria say's they are very liberal and yet they say that Demetria should shut up. Frankly I don't for a moment think that this person is liberal but just another conservative wolf in sheeps clothing.

Concerned-1 wrote on Apr 16, 2008 10:55 AM:Just like Chris and Eric Parrish, Ms Sheehan has the right to her opinion. I won't be attending.

aDAMANT wrote on Apr 16, 2008 11:45 AM:Hey Chris: We have got rid of an evil dictator who murdered and raped thousands of his own people. The Liberal way of fighting that would be to just have peace talks and if we leave them alone they will leave us alone. New for you my friend: They don't care if your conservative or liberal. They mean to kill us and get rid of us. I'm sure your smart enough to get the logic behind that. And if this was all about hate, then we would not have gone into Iraq in the first place! I really feel for Sheehan. Understand that her son was in the military and he died for what he believed in. She really needs to understand that. If she did then I believe she would not be protesting today. How many other parents who have lost their children to war have you seen out there protesting? You don't hear about them at all. I think they have accepted the fact that their children died for honer and pride for this country and for what this country stands for.

aDAMANT wrote on Apr 16, 2008 11:49 AM:To Huh?: I'm flattered that you would blog about me and not the topic above. Stick to the topic kiddo.

Paleo-Conservative wrote on Apr 16, 2008 12:06 PM:I am a conservative and I can't wait to hear what she has to say. True conservatives love liberty and peace. So called neo-conservatives are the war mongers. They have hijacked the name, but they are not conservatives. True conservatives believe that people should be free to choose their own destiny. Our interference in the middle east only serves to deprive those people of their liberty (don't tell me Iraqis are free) and enflames anti American sentiment around the world. We should start acting like good neighbors and get our noses out of other peoples business. I welcome opinions from all sides. The angry objections people have to this woman, claiming that she has no credentials and therefore no right to speak only reinforce why she has a right to speak. If she is in fact a nobody, than why do you people bother protesting?

Chris wrote on Apr 16, 2008 12:09 PM:aDamant, your blog for 11:45 is pure rubbish. Let's get one thing straight. Just because a persons son is young and nieve, like I think you are, and gets killed believing a lie doesn't automatically mean that the parent, Who is generaly more savy, should just keep quiet or support something just because their child was gullable. It just amazes me at how you just overlook at all the people we killed and the destruction we caused as well as all of that misery we created and then have the gall to come out here and talk about the things that someone else did that was not near the level of attrocities we did. But I understand the need for you America first bunch to continually wallow in denial because without that crutch you would be lost

aDAMANT wrote on Apr 16, 2008 12:49 PM:Chris, is sounds to me like you blame us for every single death in Iraq when you fail to forget that the people who are trying to kill us over there are also killing their own people. It also sounds to me that you are against our troops. Period. You should support them and not blame them for every death. I feel sorry for the people being killed over there, but at least we are making progress. I have many friends in the military and they say we are doing so much good over there, but thanks to the liberal media, we won't hear that at all. All we hear in the news is what you are saying. Are soldiers are killing other people over there. Also,,what lie are you talking about? Are you part of intelligence? If I don't know something about it then tell me what that lie was. In terms of all the destruction we caused,,what about MOST of the destruction the Iraqi people caused with their car bombings and suicide attacks. Sounds more to me that you don't support out troops and what they are trying to do over there.

bystander wrote on Apr 16, 2008 1:00 PM:Demetria,

Go to Obama's Church.

I know, we are all just small-towners who hang on to our relkigion, guns and are afraid of those who are not like us.

Dutch wrote on Apr 16, 2008 1:07 PM:This is obviously another trend involving the indoctrinization of our educated youth to lean towards the left. It seems universities only teach left wing idealogy. This country will be socialist before we know it. As far as Sheehan is concerned, Id have to be paid to listen to her!!!!

Citizen X wrote on Apr 16, 2008 1:20 PM:Let her speak! The more often the lefty lunatics get a chance to show their true colors and spew their empty rhetoric the more people will realize they are nuts. She has a First Amendment right to freedom of expression. Its only the liberals who want to silence those they disagree with with by shouting them down or disrupting their events. If you don't like what she has to say then don't attend. I will spend that time at my local shooting range enjoying my Second Amendment rights, hopefully I'll get the chance to thank a few members of our armed forces for their service to our country while I'm there. Sheehan is as crazy as they come and her attention craving ego has completely voided any sympathy she may have earned when she first thrust herself into the spotlight.

esteban wrote on Apr 16, 2008 2:37 PM:What's next CSUSM? Tim Robbins? Sean Penn? Hugo Chavez? Keep em coming!!!! you are the laughing stock of the CSU system, and so are your students!

Poor naive Chris, wrote on Apr 16, 2008 3:05 PM:Chris, I'm saddened that you suck-down, hook, line & sinker, every piece of rubbish CNN feeds you; ... You should attend CSUSM or any institution of higher learning to broaden your narrow, media-controlled perspective. You are the one believing lies, so leave the real patriots alone. Go back to your drum-circle and picking daisies in naive oblivion.

crazy indan wrote on Apr 16, 2008 4:05 PM:modern day Jane Fonda when well we see her sitting on an Anti-Aircraft Gun, mayba a picture of her and Osama Bin Ladin.

Chris wrote on Apr 16, 2008 4:17 PM:aDamant, I don't beleive you that you have many friends in the military. I just love how you talk about the Iraqis killing each other. That wouldn't have happenend if we had not invaded. But I see from the last few post that we have a bunch of people who are just blabing nonsense and think that by blabing their nonsense that it will make their fiction into reality. What are our troops doing over there other than trying to bring forth another vasel for the US. Another people to plunder.

Raoul wrote on Apr 16, 2008 5:36 PM:I would love to see CSUSM get Christopher Hitchens to speak for the pro-war side. Of course I doubt Mr. Dobler would like Hitchens either as he is an outspoken atheist, and something tells me that he would be uncomfortable with that. But considering the fact that Hitchen's usual prose is several intellectual rungs above the capacity of most CSUSM students, and a fair amount of the staff, I doubt this will happen. In fact, the more I think about it the more I think Sheehan is perfect for Cal-state.

Mike wrote on Apr 16, 2008 6:59 PM:Christopher Hitchens speaking at CSUSM would be a real hoot. Probably allienate 110% of the audience (if not more). Go for it!

EscoWatchDog wrote on Apr 17, 2008 10:23 PM:What's next for the bloggers who are hating on Cindy..censorship?

By the way, Cindy was awesome..I just got back from hearing her speak. :)

Smiles to all of you.