MURRIETA: Teacher at Vista Murrieta High School arrested
Woman accused of sexual relationship with underage girl
By JOHN HALL - Staff Writer | ∞
MURRIETA ---- A female Vista Murrieta High School teacher was arrested Thursday for reportedly having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl at the school, police said.
Crissy Hisey, 28, and the student were taken from the campus on Clinton Keith Road to the Murrieta Police Station about 12:30 p.m. to be interviewed, Detective Sgt. Jim Ganley said.
"They both admitted to the sexual relationship," he said.
The girl had previously been one of Hisey's students, the sergeant said.
Hisey is a sophomore English teacher and also serves as an adviser to the class of 2010. She has been employed by the Murrieta Valley Unified School District since fall 2004 and was placed on unpaid leave Thursday, district spokeswoman Karen Parris said.
"This started out as a friendship and then developed into a sexual relationship," Ganley said.
The sexual relationship had been going on for several months, he added.
The sergeant declined to say how detectives learned about the alleged crime.
Hisey, of Murrieta, was arrested on suspicion of lewd conduct with a minor, oral copulation with a minor, child molestation and sending harmful material to a child, Ganley said.
The "harmful material" involved photos and videos allegedly found on cell phones of both the teacher and the student, the sergeant said. Detectives seized Hisey's school computer and are examining it to see if they find further evidence in the case, he said.
The alleged sexual contact between Hisey and the girl reportedly happened both at the woman's home and in Hisey's classroom after school hours, Ganley said.
Detectives say they do not believe Hisey was involved with any other students.
Contact staff writer John Hall at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2628, or jhall@californian.com.
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murrieta resident wrote on May 1, 2008 11:01 PM:GEEZ! So much of this going on in the news recently! Just can't believe that anyone would be willing to lose it all over a minor!
Robin wrote on May 2, 2008 5:11 AM:WOW Murrieta?????? I thought that stuff happened in Lake Elsinore.....hahahaha
Remember this crap when you all start saying bad things about Elsinore. This kinda stuff is in every city.
Anyone wrote on May 2, 2008 6:18 AM:Tell me what is so hard about using an lie dector before hiring any individual involed with students? What are they afraid they will lose half their teaching staff?
teacher wrote on May 2, 2008 6:29 AM:It is unfortunate that there are occasionally people who happen to be teachers who make decisions like these. Vista Murrieta High School is an amazing school. We can only pray this poor choice by ONE teacher does not reflect on the school itself or any of the other amazing teachers they have there or anywhere else in the district!
Concerned Parent wrote on May 2, 2008 6:36 AM:This is sick. Do you think that people hired to be in a teaching position can maintain some self control and stay away from minors???
Bad Habit wrote on May 2, 2008 7:36 AM:If you want perfection from people like teachers and police you will have to create machines because if humans are involved you will have some flawed ones. I never understand why people are surprised by things like this.
To Bad Habit wrote on May 2, 2008 7:59 AM:Sorry child molestion doesn't fall into the same category as smoking is a bad habit.
Parent of Vista Student wrote on May 2, 2008 8:17 AM:Your so right as Bad Habit said, people are human and will let you down. Hopefull not all people lack self control. Not all people will let you down but some will. Put your faith in a higher source and not in mankind.
VistaParent wrote on May 2, 2008 9:19 AM:My daughter had this teacher. There is no way a lie detector test would have weeded her out. She wasn't a criminal before this incident. This situation is really sad. She was adored by her students. If the reports are true, and she did admit to this, just know, that she was a good person that made some really, really bad decisions. Vista is an incredible school with incredible teachers. Hopefully this will wake up some of the nation's teachers that think they can have casual relationships with their students. They can't, they are teachers. They shouldn't have My Space's where they communicate with their students, they shouldn't have student's cell phone numbers, they shouldn't have outside contact with their students. They must keep in mind their responsibility of being a teacher. She has not only hurt the student involved, herself, and their families. But she has hurt all those who admired and trusted her.
barb wrote on May 2, 2008 10:22 AM:I agree with Vistaparent. teachers should be looked up to, put on a pedestal if you should say. they teach students, they are mentors, setting examples, they should not be a buddy to anyone inside or outside the school. This is a sad thing not only for Vista Murrieta but for all the Murrieta School District, as they say it in other schools, "Make it a great day, the choice is yours to make" this teacher made the wrong choice.
Parent of wrote on May 2, 2008 10:46 AM:Now you know why some parents HOME SCHOOL.!!!!!!!!!!!!Children are not even safe in school by Teachers..This is happenening everywhere...Pray for our children...
Michael wrote on May 2, 2008 10:47 AM:If this girl was one day over 18 would you all feel the same? Teacher's before they are anything else are human first. But I am sure this comment like my last one on this topic will never be published. Seems the Californian just wants one sided comments on this topic.
MAR wrote on May 2, 2008 10:51 AM:I can't beleive this would happen at my kids school , my daughter knows this teacher and is friends with her, she needs to be locked up and take her teaching away from her so she does not do this again to any kids. What is going on with Murrieta lately!!!
VIsta Booster wrote on May 2, 2008 11:00 AM:Gotta go with Vistaparent above. My daughter had Ms. Hisey for English, 3 years ago. Great teacher who was devoted to her craft. She made a really bad set of decisions and now must live with the consequences. When you have hundreds of teachers and staff at a school, something like this is going to happen eventually. Our thoughts and prayers go out to both the student and her family, as well as Ms. Hisey and her family.
VistaParent wrote on May 2, 2008 11:07 AM:This is very sad. This teacher made a very very bad choice, and has made VMHS look terrible bad ( which is not..)
I have kids at VMHS and I must said all the teachers my kids have had have been very helpful and very skilled at teaching.( and they did not communicate with them after school)
Maybe wise to do psyc test on teachers before place them with teaching cert.
Vista Booster wrote on May 2, 2008 11:08 AM:"Parent of", home schooling won't be enough. You'll have to sequester your kids from strangers, neighbors, church leaders, coaches, adult relative, maybe even your spouse.
It is unfortunate that there is ALWAYS a chance that this type of victimization will take place, no matter how closely we watch and protect our kids.
WAKE UP wrote on May 2, 2008 11:19 AM:Are some of you Parents kidding!! What about morals??Knowing the difference from right and wrong? You say she was a good teacher.Teachers with morals and respect DO NOT do that to there students.Made a mistake..Ummm She knew what she was doing..Come on Parents WAKE UP!!!!
Parent of wrote on May 2, 2008 11:33 AM:"Vista Booster" Yes your right..But we still need to be more cautious and also know more about Teachers. And who are children are with..And YES this can happen anywhere..
VMHS PARENT wrote on May 2, 2008 12:03 PM:I still cannot believe that this kinda of thing is happening anywhere. You all sound like this is o.k. The students don't respect the teachers anymore. If teachers would dress and act like teachers alot of these kinda things wouldn't be happening. This child will need alot of help.
Russ wrote on May 2, 2008 1:00 PM:I'm not condoning what she did, but a 28 year old and a 17 year old isn't the same as 40 and 12. Michael is right in that this wouldn't be a story if the student was 18.
IM.A- VMHS Student wrote on May 2, 2008 1:09 PM:First of all, all of the guilt and shame is being pointed out to this teacher. It's true, she made a very bad decision and so but you don't seem to see that the student is also at fault here. Is it because she is just a minor and she doesn't know better? As a 17 year old girl, I am sure that she would know that this is wrong. I am 16 myself and I am just shocked at this event. The relationship had been going on for several of months so obviously the girl was interested as well and had no intentions of telling Ms. Hisey to back off. It was mutual and the teacher shouldn't get all of the blame. It is amazing, when looking up VMHS, one sees all of the awards that we recieve and how good our school is and how much CLASS we represent, and all of a sudden to see a headline like this attached to our school's name, it's shocking. I had heard so many good things about this teacher last year when I was a sophmore, and I just would like to wish her the best; she shouldn't be getting all of the blame because it wasn't forced, there was consentment on both sides.
Michael wrote on May 2, 2008 1:35 PM:Bravo to you IM.A- VMHS Student! Now if the adults would grow up and see reality as you have we would all be better off. With movies and TV, gangs and drugs, kids grow up a lot faster than they should have too. But that is the reality of the world we live in today. Yes, the teacher made a very poor choice and under the lows of California even after her sentence is complete she will be marked for life. This is sad because the 17 year old is just as culpable as the teacher. 17 and 28 is too close to legal consent.
To Michael and to Russ wrote on May 2, 2008 1:53 PM:Makes no difference if the student is 17 or 18. The bottom line is that student/teacher relationships of any kind should be off limits.
Just like parents should not be friends with their children, they should be parents. Teachers are there to teach not be friends or buddies with their students.
summer wrote on May 2, 2008 2:24 PM:Crissy was one of my high school friends and has always been a warm caring person. She has always wanted to teach , as she did just that. She is one of the most sweetest people I have ever known, and no maater what the case may be, we must remember that we are all human and make mistakes. I pray for both of their families as they are both probably having a very hard time.
Double Standard wrote on May 2, 2008 2:31 PM:She will get off with a slap on the wrist. If it was a male teacher he would get life in prison.
I wonder if this goes wrote on May 2, 2008 2:40 PM:on in hospitals between children and Docors or say Policemen or as we do know Lawyers. Pray for the children.
a student wrote on May 2, 2008 3:08 PM:wow. this is something you see a lot on the news and never think it's gonna happen at ur own school, so it's a real eye opener to know that anything can happen to anyone, anywhere. vmhs is still a great school tho
Crazy wrote on May 2, 2008 3:16 PM:Would it be a "bad decision" if it was a male teacher and a female student. UNBELIEVABLE!! It doesn't matter what the age was either! Teachers are expected to behave as adults and if their urges can't be contained, then they shouldn't have chosen this profession. A girl/boy at age 17 are hormonal and don't always make "good decisions". It was the teachers job to report inappropriate behavior of the student, if the student started it. It is the teacher who is responsible for the outcome, 100%
Michael wrote on May 2, 2008 3:29 PM:The story indicated former student. But I do agree with you as to the teacher and student relationship. Regardless, many lives have been tossed into turmoil due to what appears to be a mutual relationship. Let the punishment fit the crime ... not a lifetime of punishment as our laws call for in cases like this. As to the Double Standard post above, had it been a male teacher the sentence would not have been life in prison. Had it been a female teacher and male student at the school then again the perception would have been different.
vmhs wrote on May 2, 2008 3:30 PM:The same thing happen last year with a female spanish teacher and a male student buy nothing happen to them. Is this because it is a gay relationship
J wrote on May 2, 2008 3:49 PM:I had Mrs. Hisey as an AVID teacher she always talked about doing the right thing and said we were an AVID family since we were going to have her for 4 years this was our sophmore year some much for that big AVID family Mrs. Hisey betrayed all her AVID students it is like a parent walking out on you thanks a lot Mrs. Hisey FOR NOTHING
VMHS Alum wrote on May 2, 2008 4:44 PM:I had Mrs. Hisey the first year she taught and we remained friends through the rest of high school. I don't know what to make of all this but I definitely do think that she does not deserve to have her character assassinated. She was a really dedicated teacher and a really good person. This relationship was obviously a really bad choice, but that does not make her a bad person. Bad things happen, that's the way life goes. Thank you to VistaParent for posting that first comment.
a students parent wrote on May 2, 2008 5:08 PM:What is the matter with you people?! It's like watching the news when someone does something horrible and all their neighbors say how nice a person they were and they are so surprised. A good person does not molest underage children! I am sorry, but I do not see how she is a good person and I don't see this as a "bad choice". And by the way, my child is in her class this year and I have never once heard my child say she is a great, caring teacher. She says she is not very nice.
Sorry wrote on May 2, 2008 5:48 PM:I knew Crissy and I'm so sorry that this happen, but we all make mistakes or bad choices. lets prayer for both families.
Bob wrote on May 2, 2008 5:55 PM:Teachers are told to form positive relationships with students. I agree that they should not have each other cell phones are communicate on myspace but the most capable and devoted teachers tend to be the ones that students can realte to. The teachers that I remember and that inspired me where the ones that talked to me like a friend and not just another student. Yes, teachers should be respected and held to a higher standard but most parents to not instill that in their children.
Whats up wrote on May 2, 2008 6:01 PM:Get out of this area as soon as you can it willonly get worse.I am ready to head for the hills
Vista Booster wrote on May 2, 2008 6:21 PM:'a students parent', when you went to 'Back to School Night' and Open House, what were your impressions of her? When I met her on those two occasions two years ago, I found her to be a very caring person who was excited about teaching. My daughter has a math/science mind set and Ms. Hisey was the first English teacher that she felt taught her how to properly express herself in written words. I've looked back over my emails and am reminded of the numerous times she would accept my daughter's essays by email in the late evenings and reply that night with suggestions and edits.
She absolutely betrayed a trust that was placed in her hands,and this betrayal would be the same if this student was 17 or 18. But without knowing more about the student involved and their level of mental maturity, it is difficult to judge just HOW horrible this is. However, I respect your right to disagree.
Russ wrote on May 2, 2008 6:24 PM:Michael, again I agree 100%. The teacher should lose her job. She unfairly took advantage of her position and there will also be legal ramifications. However, having sex with a 17 year old is different than 15 and under and should be treated differently.
Murrieta Mom wrote on May 2, 2008 7:00 PM:First of all, I think some of what happens to *some* homeschool kids is far worse, you just don't hear about the abuse because they are sequestered and no one sees them. Not all, not even most, but some. Probably the percentage of abused "homeschooled" kids is about the same as kids who have teachers who can't control themselves. Second, why is anyone surprised by this stuff? Teachers are NOT subject to any psychological testing before they are hired - I know this because I have a friend who is teaching. No, it's not going to catch every situation, but I believe to this day that there should be psychological evaluation done on teachers in order for them to teach.
Pleasant Memory wrote on May 2, 2008 8:00 PM:I once dated my physical education teacher back in '69 when I was 16 and she must have been 35. She took me down to the Mississippi River, we smoked some Mary Jane, and had a memorable evening groovin' to some Jimi Hendrix, Creedence Clearwater Revival, and Cream. It was a simple date and no sexual contact was even hinted at. So don't stop teachers from having healthy relationships with kids because of one bad apple.
JimJim wrote on May 2, 2008 9:17 PM:Would these comments posted here (good teacher, bad decision, poor people....) be so mild if the teacher was Mr. Hisey??
There is a huge double standard in our society. If this teacher were male, I'm sure the comments would not be so sympathetic.
Wow... wrote on May 3, 2008 5:58 AM:All of this over a 28 Vs. 17 year old relationship. Take the teacher portion out of it, and really, is it that big of a deal?
Oh Yeah wrote on May 3, 2008 6:16 AM:The female teacher [is accused of making] a bad choice and now because she is female [if she is convicted] she will get a lesser sentece. Wow, that makes sense. Sends a clear message if you ar female offender don't worry you won't get as much time as a man does, so why not take a chance. A male teacher would be sentenced to at least 7 to 10 and be raped the minute he walked through the doors of prison
Tragic wrote on May 3, 2008 7:22 AM:This situation is tragic. I wish teachers who find themselves in this situation would remind themselves of the consequences of their actions. ... I don't think she's a molester, though. I think back to when I was in high school in the 70s, and it was not illegal to have a relationship with your teacher (though I thought it was gross). I knew several girls who were dating male teachers. It was frowned upon (as it is in college), but certainly not illegal. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with the teacher because they are the adult. The whole situation is just sad.
Take a Step Back wrote on May 3, 2008 7:23 AM:All of you who are referring to this as "molestation" need to take a deep breath and think about this some more. It's wrong, yes. The teacher [may have] abused her position of trust with this girl who the law says isn't old enough to consent (although in most countries around the world she is. Does that mean American kids aren't as mature?). But it isn't "molestation" in the sense that this woman preyed on the girl. The girl was by most accounts a willing participant. So this isn't the same as some pervert molesting a 12- or 14-year-old girl. Everything is not black nad white. There are shades of gray and this is one of them. ... Let's just not equate it to the slimeball who kidnaps a 12-year-old off the street and rapes him or her. Because it's NOT the same, no matter how many of you puritans want to make it that way.
sleeping but awake wrote on May 3, 2008 8:38 AM:Lets see a teacher [reportedly] pursues and has sex with a student. I suppose the cheerleaders for home schooling might have a point on how to prevent this. But wait wasn't it the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that just got busted for having sex with 13 year old girls. Dang, I bet they were praying at points as well during their home schooling.
Nope, sorry but prayer and home schooling is not the answer to teachers gone bad. Seems like the answer is to be clear with teachers, this is against the rules, against the law and you will be caught. When you get caught, and you will bucko, we will assit the D.A. to prosecute you to the full extent of the law, you will loose your job and your teaching credentials and will be forfiting your teaching career. And, perhaps as a convicted felon forfeit any reasonable way to earn a living. So, your choice bucko and you have a nice day.
I would suggest wrapping the kids in tin foil and looking daily to make sure their seals are not broken with a follow up lie detector test twice a month for all students and teachers but that would be expensive and impractical. Plus, can anyone really distinguish reality and lies with a teenager, no we do not have the technology to accomplish this yet.
Bronco Student wrote on May 3, 2008 8:51 AM:I really hope that the choices of one teacher at our school will not make people think less of our school as a whole. I know it is affecting all of us as a whole because she was associated with Vista Murrieta but the student body and the other teachers at our school, who i might add are amazing people, suffer ... This is very unfortuante but ... it is not an example of Vista Murrieta as a whole.
VistaParenttt wrote on May 3, 2008 9:07 AM:I dont care how nice the teacher was or what kind of personl problems she was having, ... This could of been my daughter or son that goes to VMH. People your saying she is a good person, what if this was YOUR child would you think the same about her? I don't think so. It does not make it right to be with a student. ...
Temecula Mom wrote on May 3, 2008 9:15 AM:This is wrong no matter what the reason, story or excuse.
Adults are not to have romantic relationships with minors.
Adults in authority positions are not ot have romantic relationships with subordinates, as in the workplace.
To intentionally violate the law and the trust of minors, parents and employer is a conscious act and consequences follow ...
Jane wrote on May 3, 2008 9:19 AM:I'm a high school teacher at another school and personally have no sympathy for her. All adults know what statutory rape is. It doesn't matter whether she's nice or not. It's illegal. Fortunately this is rare, but it casts a cloud of suspicion over all teachers. ...
fefe wrote on May 3, 2008 9:28 AM:they took christianity out of schools.
what did you think would happen?
do you really want secularists to teach your children?
Bob wrote on May 3, 2008 11:25 AM:It's a 17 year old, for goodness sake... in 6 more months (or whatever) the teenager magically becomes "okay"? It's not the age that is the issue, it's the abuse of a position.
Learn a little bit of history, Western & *gasp* other peoples' history of relationships, marriage & whatnot.
Laura wrote on May 3, 2008 11:26 AM:Teachers these days are expected to be emotionally available to their students at all times as well...it's no wonder these relationships develop sometimes. I am sure it is hard for young teachers especially to distance themselves physically (or sexually)from their students when they have become personally involved in every other way. ... unless the student chooses to press charges I don't think the teacher should be punished for a bad decision.
To Laura wrote on May 3, 2008 12:41 PM:The student doesn't have a choice in the matter, she is a minor. As for the teachers being emotionally available at all times. I don't think so. It is not their job. They can be tuned into a problem but it should then be referred to either the parents or the school psychologist or counselor.
To fefe: Being taught by secularists has nothing to do with it. Do you really believe being taught in a Christian school this sort of thing could not happen? What planet do you live on?
To fefe wrote on May 3, 2008 12:50 PM:So you think putting Christianity into public schools (which, by the way is a violation of the separation between Church and State - look up the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment to the Constitution) will prevent "molestation?" Have you read any of the stories about the sex crimes against children by Priests in the Cathlolic Church (and yes, they ARE Christians)????? Or as someone else pointed out earlier about the LDS elders sexually abusing children (their "wives") in Texas? What in the world makes you think that Christianity is proof that no wrong-doing goes on? Some of the biggest pervents are "Christians" who go to church on a weekly basis!!! And they give a bad name to all the other Christians - just like teachers who get caught up in these kinds of scandals give a bad name to all the other teachers.
We are all human and have free will. Some of us make better and more appropriate choices than others, but thankfully the "others" make up a smaller percentage.
Please leave your moral superiority out of it.
To fefe wrote on May 3, 2008 2:07 PM:Yep Mater Dei is a bastion of religion in schools....So are priests and little boys... gotta love that religion.
To Parent of wrote on May 3, 2008 2:56 PM:Your assumption doesn't make much sense, because statistically more children are sexually abused by their own parents than by teachers.
I.M A- VMHS Student wrote on May 3, 2008 3:47 PM:Once again I come on here to read the newly added comments and people still don't seem to see what they are saying. The girl is 17 years old and will be 18 soon!! Is she going to be more mature or more of an adult in a few weeks?! It is ridiculous to see how pathetic we are. We have people saying that this was a molestation act, well I always thought when someone was molested, it was by force and they had no consent to it; I had no idea that it could be a several month relationship- where both individuals agree to it. This is no way of molestation, the girl was a part of this and we should not point all of our fingers to the teacher. When asking a 5th grader, they know that even thinking about being with a teacher is not right, so an almost 18-year old girl doesn't know that? Teens at that age know how to sneak into clubs, know how to get a supply of drugs, and they know how to have fun at wild parties, but they don't know the difference of right and wrong when considering to be with a teacher. If the teacher was sending bad messages, the student could have told an adult if she didn't want to have anything to do with it, but obviously she did. They BOTH made a bad decision and this should be taken into consideration by all.
Stupid wrote on May 3, 2008 5:43 PM:What part of no-fraternizing do people not understand? You mean to tell me out of all the people in the world this person had to get involved with, they chose an underage student? I don't care, I know how STUPID I was at 17, which is why it is the teacher's job to be responsible and moral. Students looks to teachers for guidance and like any other place of work, teachers are trained and told again and again not to do this and what would happen if they do! If after all the warnings the school and the law puts forth, this teacher decides to do this anyway, throw the book at her.
What does Elsinore Have to do with it wrote on May 3, 2008 6:07 PM:Why every time does something like this happen do ignorant people have to point the finger at Lake Elsinore? There are the same amount of crimes occurring in Temecula and Murrieta, why does Elsinore always get the blame? It's unbelieveable how the people in Murrieta and Temecula live in this bubble of "nothing happens here". Im thankful I live in Lake Elsinore!
VMHS STUDENT. wrote on May 3, 2008 6:25 PM:i can't believe all of these people are sitting here arguing about what happened. get a life.Half of you aren't even in high school anymore, so drop the drama.
&& NIGHTHAWK; we're still way classier than you'll ever be :]
Bad decision poor choice wrote on May 3, 2008 7:09 PM:Try a violation of the law.
To all of you who believe this teacher should get off easy because the student was 17 or because there may be a double standard (because she's female), please do me a favor: STOP commenting online & contact your local reps to tell them to change the law! If YOU believe, unlike I do, that this sexual relationship (adult & minor) should not be a CRIME then do something about it.
Nighthawk wrote on May 3, 2008 7:11 PM:Finally VMHS is exposed for the sham it is. yes they have new buildings and all that but they are overhyped. Their sports programs are bordering the line breaking CIF rules. The education isnt that great at VMHS. The best school in the entire valley is GOHS if you look at the test scores and stuff. SEx is happening alot at VMHS and needs to be investigated now!1
KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL wrote on May 3, 2008 7:17 PM:the teacher was way out of line , and should do some time for what she did. She should have kept it professional. I hope she learned from her mistake, and she should not be aloud to be by any schools anymore.
eames wrote on May 3, 2008 7:23 PM:When I was 15 I started going out with my 25 year old male neighbor, we even lived together for 2 years (from age 15 to 17). I was the one that went after him. I had no parent supervision. Where are the parents?? I am living proof If no parents are involved in your life you will do whatever you want and I did.
What wrote on May 3, 2008 7:45 PM:Nighthawk--- What do you mean SEx is happening alot at VMHS??? Who are you trying to accuse??? and I am not going to even go there about your comment about VMHS not having any class....because they DO. This one incident does not account for their whole school. And yes GOHS is a great school but I am sure they have there own problems as well just like ANY other school.
WOW wrote on May 3, 2008 8:09 PM:The common thread here is ignorance and over-hyping the event. However, that's not suprising given the degree to which TV and mass-media in general controls our society.
Vista Booster wrote on May 3, 2008 8:32 PM:Nighthawk --- it would show a little more maturity to recognize the tragedy of this event and not stoop so low as to use it to build your own low self-esteem.
penalty wrote on May 3, 2008 8:37 PM:what do you thing this teacher's pentalty will be? does anyone here know what the california law is on penalties for adult/minor or teacher/student relationships? i've been searching the internet but can't find substantial information.
Bogart wrote on May 4, 2008 7:10 AM:Russ and Mike, so let's say I have a few drinks and get caught driving. My BAL is .9. By your theory I'm not as guilty as some one with a BAL of 1.5. Sorry, a law is a law, there are no degrees of guilt when a law is broken.
to penalty wrote on May 4, 2008 7:17 AM:Her credential will be revoked, she'll have to register as a sex offender, and she won't be able to work with children (minors) again.
She may get probation or jail time, which will be determined at sentencing (and by whether she accepts a plea or goes to trial) and will be based on the number of potential additional charges they may add following additional investigation.
VistaMom wrote on May 4, 2008 10:38 AM:The thing that bothers me so much is that her sexual urges toward a student that she was in a position of power over were stronger than anything else...especially knowing that if caught she would certainly face jail time, lose her job, humiliate her family as well as betray the trust of all of the other students she taught. The fact that knowing all of that and that she was still apparently unable to control these urges is what signifies to me that she is sick and should be looked upon as a sexual predator. Whether or not the 17 year old felt it was consentual is not the issue here. The teacher should have said NO!
MVUSD Employee wrote on May 4, 2008 10:57 AM:This is just a list of many such incidences over the years in this district but someone was smart enough to actually get the police involved. The district administrators always look the other way. The district is loosing control of their schools because no one respects the admin.
To Penalty wrote on May 4, 2008 11:39 AM:My previous post said check out CA PC 290. Actually that's the sex registrant code. The correct code is 288 (a) (b.1). Since the girl is over 14 and not yet 18, this is probably not a felony and the perp will most likely get a walk or maybe a year in jail. I may be wrong on the whole matter but this is what I found on the web.
Give me a break huh wrote on May 4, 2008 11:56 AM:There have been instances at GOHS and other high schools in Temecula & Lake Elsinore, so get off your high horse.
The difference between those school districts & Murrieta is that the MVUSD used their phone system to call parents to at least notify them that a teacher at VMHS had been arrested which shows me (through their actions) that while the TVUSD & LEUSD have a "circle the wagons" or "we cannot comment on personnel issues" attitude, Murrieta cares MOST about having INFORMED parents (over attempting to cover up anything bad).
There are CRIMINALs everywhere (& I do mean criminals because the teacher, NOT her student broke the law). I really do hope that those of you who are so willing to push the blame to the 17 year old & thereby excuse the actions of the teacher (translation - adult) are not parents. If you are, do you teach your children that it's OK to violate some laws & oh, do you also advise them to explian to the authorities that their parents think it's ok (& that's their defense). I'm not saying you shouldn't teach you children to be responsible but please don't expect them to be when you're of the mind that it's OK to violate "some laws" or break "some of the rules" because you happen to not agree with them. If you don't agree with the laws or rules, you should work to change them, & not just disregard them & expect that there will be no consequences.
To penalty wrote on May 4, 2008 11:58 AM:A very similar case occured in Lake Elsinore. See NC times, Elsinore news, April 25th. Teacher, female age 27, sex w/ underage student. Will have to register as sex offender and possibly 3 years of jail. Sentence has not yet been imposed.
penalty wrote on May 4, 2008 1:25 PM:thank you for your reference to CA code. i actually expected a harsher punishment, but i guess every state is different.
definition wrote on May 4, 2008 9:49 PM:molestation
n. the crime of sexual acts with children up to the age of 18, including touching of private parts, exposure of genitalia, taking of pornographic pictures, rape, inducement of sexual acts with the molester or with other children and variations of these acts by pedophiles. Molestation also applies to incest by a relative with a minor family member and any unwanted sexual acts with adults short of rape.
She knew the RULE wrote on May 4, 2008 10:15 PM:I don`t give a darn about religion It was made up to control the poor. I do believe in morals. Teachers should have to sign a contract stating that they will never engage in sexul contact verbally or physical with a student under the age of 18 & if they violate the contract they deserve to lose their teaching credentials & serve what ever jail term is deemed to fit the crime depending on how much older they are than the student. In this case I believe the teacher deserves less than 90 days with a lifetime revocation of her teaching credentials
student wrote on May 4, 2008 11:25 PM:well u dont know what is like at our school we truly persue everything with class and to see this happen is a shoke this was my english teacher and it was very odd to hear about it .... but its over now you can not change the past!!! Vista murrieta is still a great school and i have gone to diffrent high schools and have compared
Mike wrote on May 5, 2008 9:43 AM:What does any of this have to do with Murrieta Valley coaches betting on football games? Keep to the topic--the Murrieta coaches will be dealt with seperately---
Concerned Parent wrote on May 5, 2008 1:56 PM:Student, I am sad to see that the system has failed you. The teacher must not have been a very good English teacher, as it seems you have difficulty putting together sentences with proper spelling and grammar.
There is no gray with regards to protecting our children. Teachers are not to fraternize with students, period. Maturity has nothing to do with it
Feel no sympathy for an adult, in a position of power, who decided to forgo our trust in her, any hope of a private life, and her career, for a few moments of pleasure. Shame on the teacher, or anyone who sympathizes with her situation; her actions were reprehensible.
Friend wrote on May 5, 2008 4:34 PM:It sound to me like she was a good teacher who made a terrible mistake. I agree that she broke the rules and should not be allowed to teach again, but I don't consider her to be a monster.
If that 17 year old killed someone she would be tried as an adult and given an adult punishment. With that being said the state recognizes the fact that a person her age can make an adult descision.
She was not forced to do anything, she made the choice to be in the relationship. I don't condone what Mrs. Hisey did, but it's not as bad as some of you make it out to be.
If this were a year from now this would not be an issue.
To friend wrote on May 5, 2008 6:06 PM:You're right! It wouldn't be an issue because the student wouldn't be a student (if she is a senior) and she would be 18! But it's not a year from now. It's today. She is a STUDENT (no matter what her age), the teacher is an authority figure, and whether or not it was mutual frankly doesn't matter in this case.
A mistake wrote on May 5, 2008 6:08 PM:is something you make on a test. Don't mess with your students or underaged people period!
vmhs student wrote on May 5, 2008 6:21 PM:i go there! it's crazy!i never thought that would happen to my school cuz its "classy" But that's just plain gross
bob wrote on May 6, 2008 6:14 PM:ok NightHawk...
you are seriously pathetic. get over yourself and stop concentrating on how much better your school is then vista. ya that teacher made a mistake...thats ONE peron out of a whole lot of people. and im sure shell get what she deserves.
but you, your just pissed that you lose every year :]
vista student wrote on May 6, 2008 9:24 PM:go bob!! :]
i didn't have mrs hisey but a lot of people that i know did. it's just odd that one person can change the opinion that so many people had about our school. she made a mistake and it screwed up her life but as many people have already stated, it was just one person. vista is still a really great school.
No reflection wrote on May 6, 2008 10:33 PM:This teacher's decision to commit a crime should have no reflection on the rest of the school's honorable teachers and students. Don't let yourself think this was a "mistake". She is an adult, in authority, who took advantage of a student (it doesn't matter the age). She should have had the integrity and control to contain any urges she had. Unfortunately, she choose this path. Now that she's been caught, she will pay the price. Her career is over at 28 years old.
George wrote on May 29, 2008 5:55 PM:While there is notes that Mrs. Hisey was a great teacher and people make mistakes. It is impossible to condon her actions to the student (love prevails) and to her husband! she is accountable for her actions and her lies to everyone involved. She seems to have used everyone for her own selfishness. She deserves the same punishment as anyone else that preys on others.
shocked wrote on Jun 2, 2008 7:08 PM:Hey does anyone know how the hearing went for Ms. Hisey? Has she been convicted of anything yet??
do not judge wrote on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 AM:I can assure all of you that Crissy is not a monster. Some of you are forgetting that we all make mistakes, and big or small they're all the same in they eyes of God. Would you want your worst mistake showcased to people everywhere? Wouldn't that be punishment enough? I am willing to bet that everyone on here has a secret that would be scorned by other people if the world knew about it. So keep that in mind people, and just pray for Crissy and everyone else involved. Gossip and judgment are not what we're called for!
curious... wrote on Jun 6, 2008 9:49 AM:does any1 know anything about the girl mrs. hisey had a relationshp with ? ?
William wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:48 PM:I dont know about that, but I do know that I had her for 10th grade english when she first started teaching.
Dumbfounded VMHS Parent wrote on Aug 12, 2008 4:16 PM:Ok, yes, the ages of the women regarding legalities is close. But this is why they make laws, this is also the same laws teachers are asked to uphold. I agree, teachers should not have relationships with their students what-so-ever. But, in the same right, the student was cognitive enough to know right from wrong. There was no "right" part here. The teacher abused her position and student engaged in it as well. Take the teachers credentials and boot the girl out of the school. She is not a victim, she was a participant. IF she was 12, I'd have a different view. At 17, my opinion is what it is.
vistakid wrote on Sep 3, 2008 5:54 PM:Nighthawk, you really are pathetic.
just bacause one kid and one teacher did something that wasn't classy,
doesn't mean none of have class. I have friends that go to MV and they're nice kids, so why don't YOU show some class and quit talking bad.
Dont be Crazy wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:51 AM:Listen, this stuff has been going on since my GrandParents were kids. The difference is, they were not sue crazy back then. Now I think if a teacher does this with a child then absolutely he / she should get maximum punishment. But those of you who are acting like they are shocked by this... Get off your horse! I know there were times when you were in school and said to yourself that your teacher is hot and would do all sort of crazy stuff with him / her.
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