Rambo wrote on May 20, 2008 8:55 PM:I made my fortune selling lead-laced, wooden bedpans on the meam streets of Harlem. While "teaching" my customers about what to look for in top quality furniture,never did I consider sending inappropriate love notes to my customers (students of furniture). I kept my distance, discussed only daily, measureable furniture sales objectives, and engaged all clients simutaneously in the furniture learning process. I never crossed the line from teacher (furniture salesman)to sexual predator. I would have lost my furniture credential and been sent to the big house at Pelican Bay. This teacher crossed the line and should have her credential removed and then be sent to Norco State Prison for Women to make license plates.

woah wrote on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM:dang i know her. my sister does too. i never saw THAT coming at all..

idaho wrote on May 20, 2008 11:14 PM:Where were these teachers when I was in HS in the 70's. The're comeing out our ears now.

Parent wrote on May 21, 2008 6:38 AM:I agree with Rambo. Take away her credentials and send her away. Isn't she the "professional" who is trained to keep hands off of our kids and refrain from sexual harassment?

So why is RVHS getting a new principal wrote on May 21, 2008 6:39 AM:So why is RVHS getting a new principal?

"Court documents show the investigation started because of a note found in a shredder that was taped back together and given to Rancho Vista's principal, who then notified Temecula police."

Anyone out there know if the principal voluntarily left? Why is RVHS getting a new principal? PLEASE tell me it's not because he did the right thing (what he's required to do).

You see this kind of thing, in the news, all the time now but what you DON'T see (I haven't), or what you rarely see is a school official (in this case, the principal) following the law (as a mandated reporter) & notifying the police. Usually, school officials, circle the wagons & attempt to cover up these things to protect their own (& not our children).

Shannon wrote on May 21, 2008 6:50 AM:As parents we have enough to worry about when we send our kids off to school, we should not have to worry about the ADULT teachers too! In my opinion these are sick individuals.

The teachers need to be wrote on May 21, 2008 8:54 AM:treated as any low life child molester and put into prison in the general population, that way they can explain to the other prisoners why the feel they have the right to molest children the prisoner might have on the outside.

To Idaho wrote on May 21, 2008 9:50 AM:I think we're just hearing more about it now and something is actually being done. In the past the male teachers would just wait for the girl to turn 18 and marry them, and keep their job.

Crazy wrote on May 21, 2008 11:12 AM:I can't begin to wonder what goes on in the mind of these adults! It seems like every week we hear of another victim of these creeps.I'm sure they read the news. What makes them think they can somehow get away with it? What is real scary is how many are never reported!

Man these pedophiles wrote on May 21, 2008 11:51 AM:are getting caught evcerywhere, churchs, schools, day care centers. I winder how many pedophiles we have in the foster parent programs? Gazillions I bet. If they screen the foster parents as well as they do the teachers, you know there is a slew of them in the Foster Parent Program.

a mom wrote on May 21, 2008 3:05 PM:interesting, and terrible. It was just a year ago, that a TVHS teacher was charged with child annoyance (numerous counts) and the TVHS principal left. What's happening here??

Protecting our kids wrote on May 21, 2008 3:10 PM:Of course we're seeing more of this type of thing. Did you all miss the AP article published in this (& other papers) last week?

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/05/15/news/state/zd3eec4a47dd540a98825744a0072d90d.txt

What's really scary though is that loopholes still exists for teachers who've done this before to retain their teaching credentials. The California Commission on Teacher Credentialing obviously cares more about teachers who admit to violating the law (or are found guilty of that) then they do about protecting students.

P wrote on May 21, 2008 4:52 PM:Geesh, what does a grown woman see in a boy?

Teacher wrote on May 21, 2008 5:51 PM:Trust me, I teach on that campus and this sad situation and the principal's departure are entirely unrelated. This may be one of the few things this principal did right! She has been "promoted" to a desk job at the D.O., and everyone is thrilled (for us!) It was long overdue.

ya right wrote on May 21, 2008 7:40 PM:these "kids" are 17 years old and clearly NOT "victims"
if they willingly text messaged with the teacher and took rides from them (the article says they kissed in her car in front of his house) they are not being "molested" they willingly and fully went along with this activity
they are almost adults and legally they are not, but they are not innocent here

Michelle wrote on May 21, 2008 8:41 PM:No matter what, there is still a gross imbalance of power between a 37-year old teacher and a 17-year old boy. This is predatory behavior, plain and simple. She groomed and manipulated those boys to bolster her own ego.

a guide wrote on May 21, 2008 10:28 PM:"We know that if we really want to love, we must forgive. Forgive and ask to be forgiven; excuse rather than accuse. Reconciliation begins first, not with others but with ourselves. It starts with having a clean heart within. A clean heart is able to see God in others." - Mother Teresa
Judgement on others is merely a reflection of ourselves. . .

Concerned Parent wrote on May 22, 2008 7:12 AM:What I would like to knonw is why weren't the parents notified? Is the school hiding it's head in the sand? Were other students at risk?

Is anything being done to protect the students and staff from potential "fall-out?"

Are qualified counselors, not the school counselors, available to talk to students and to staff?

And to "ya right:" God forbid anything like this happens to one of your kids? Seventeen or not, this type of situation in which a student is under the guidance and protection of the school system and teachers should NEVER be put in a situation where they are mistreated.

To ya right wrote on May 22, 2008 11:37 AM:I agree with concerned parent. Here's some things that may help you to better understand: The teacher is an ADULT, the boys are MINORS & those facts make what alledgedly happened ILLEGAL.
Further, did you miss that the teacher was a "special Ed" teacher? How about that note to the first victim, that she hearted him & the subsequent notes on his folder or schoolwork? If she had access to these things, she may have been his teacher (so he or they may be special education students.)

This is why wrote on May 22, 2008 2:51 PM:it is so important for parents to be involved with their kids at school. I see so many parents who drop their kids off before school. Before the school is open and leave them so they can go to work. Yes, teachers are in a "trusted" position however in today's world the only person I trust in myself. Stay involved with the kids, join your PTA, do everything you can to be on campass (in a positive way) and keep your eyes on your kids.

Shocked wrote on May 22, 2008 4:06 PM:I can't believe she pleaded not guilty.

Special Ed wrote on May 22, 2008 7:11 PM:Not that it makes it okay but special ed could be ADHD, it doesn't mean the students were mentally handicapped. Many students get "special ed" services who are perfectly "normal".

Roberto wrote on May 23, 2008 7:21 AM:I agree with ya right..when I was a 17 year old boy no female would have taken advantage of me without my consent...I say let the lawsuits fly as they will sue the schools. That's what this is really all about.

Michelle wrote on May 23, 2008 10:16 PM:What "Ya Right" and "Roberto" do not understand is that adolescents, even people in their early twenties, do not have the capacity to make adult choices. The part of the brain (frontal lobe) that aids in decision making and being able to predict possibly bad consequences does not fully mature until around age twenty-five at the earliest. Adolescents live in the moment, which explains all of the risk-taking behavior we see in them that makes us shake our heads in disbelief. These boys were not capable of making a rational decision under the coercion and allure of such an adult authority figure. Regardless of whether this is some type of male fantasy or not, this woman [allegedly] took advantage of them and skewed their thinking. Years from now, when they are married with children, do you think they might not trust their wives as much as they would have had they not had this [alleged] unfortunate exposure to seductive behavior by a married woman?

Roberto wrote on May 25, 2008 9:24 PM:If what Michelle is saying is true then no one under 21 should be made to stand trial as an adult...of course this is silly. When I was 17 any development of my formidable years good or bad had already taken place. Maybe these boys should charged along with the teacher and they should not be able to sue us the taxpayers for large sums of money.

Pete wrote on May 27, 2008 11:30 AM:As the parent of a 17 year old boy, I may give my son a pat on the back for having a relationship with an older woman if the relationship is mutual & he meets her at McDonalds or Wal-Mart or some other place. But if my son has a relationship with a school employee (AKA someone who has been put in a position of responsibility over my child) I will go after them. Yes, a 17 year old boy is old enough to make choices but teachers & other school employees should have the maturity to make better choices then a 17 year old.

Roberto wrote on May 29, 2008 6:21 PM:I agree the teacher is culpable...I also believe the students should be also. Its time to apportion the blame and responsibility and quit sticking the taxpayers with lawsuits...That what this is really about, a lawsuit and you and I pay.

coach wrote on Jun 2, 2008 11:33 PM:Wow I coach her daughter. Never saw that coming.

Michelle wrote on Jun 3, 2008 9:55 PM:Wow, Pete, you make me feel the male psyche is completely incomprehensible! This woman is thirty-seven years old! Would you really pat your son on the back for being involved with her? I'll bet you wouldn't be doing much patting if your seventeen-year-old daughter starting hanging out with a man that age! Same old double standard...

Heavy Hearted wrote on Jun 24, 2008 2:11 PM:This teacher needs help. Obviouusly she thinks she did nothing wrong. I feel really bad for her children & husband. They are now going to have to deal with the consequenses of her actions & it's not thier fault. "Coach" knows they're good people. It's really unfortunate :(