Dave wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:08 PM:Are you kidding me! How in the world can neighbors dictate how you are going to earn a living. Ms. Coyle is not breaking any laws and doing us full time parents a way to support ourselves along with our children. She has every right to expend to additional children as long as she has the appropriate help, let HER DO IT! People have other things to worry about, such as these high gas prices and the state of the economy, not if Ms. Coyle can expend from 8 kids to 14. Get a life neighbors, and worry about more important things.

Ed wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:40 PM:Dave, why don't you move next door to Ms. Coyle. She lives on a street that can't handle the traffic now. With the addition of 12 more auto trips per day the street will be a disaster.

well said Dave wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:58 PM:Why do some consider the sound of kids playing outside noise pollution? I'm sure many of the kids in her daycare are children from the neighborhood. I'd love to have my kid's daycare in my neighborhood and wouldn't be opposed to living next to one. In the past, I've lived next to an elementary school and the noise is really not a big deal. And by the way, my homes have always been in "affluent" neighborhoods.

Dave wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:33 PM:I am pretty sure those 12 more auto trips will be scattered through out the day. If I was able to move next to Ms. Coyle I probably would. It would make my commute a whole lot easier having a day care right next door instead of 8 miles away where i take my 2 yr old each day. If you don't like the neighbor hood get out. No one is forcing anyone to stay.

Tom wrote on Jun 9, 2008 4:27 PM:Dave, then I guess you won't mind if I open up an auto repair shop next to your house. After all, it would make MY commute so much easier...

Jen wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:08 PM:Sounds like some bitter neighbors just don't care for Mrs. Doyle all that much. Is it a 24/7 daycare? I could understand not having any quiet time. I also think neighbors that live next door are entitled to some afternoon quiet time if they are home during those hours. 14 playing children all day can be very noisy! Maybe outside time can be from 8-10 and then again from 2-4.

dave wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:28 PM:I do not have any issues, what people do in their own home, as long as it is legal and no harm is done to anyone. This day and age, both dad and mom need to work now a days to survive and get the bills paid on time. It's people like Ms. Coyle that we depend on to take care of our kids while we are at work. If it was not for people like her, what would us parents do and how would we survive.

The Law wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:36 PM:Here is information directly from the Department of Social Services, Community Care Licensing.


Under California Health and Safety Code sections 1597.30 and 1597.40 family child
care homes are defined as a residential use of property. It is the intent of these laws that
children be provided safe care in the same home environment as a traditional home
setting. The Legislature has prohibited most restrictions from municipal zoning, building
and fire codes that could impact the use of a residence as a family child care home.
Section 1597.40 (c) of the California Health and Safety Code specifically states that
“every restriction or prohibition entered into, whether by way of covenant, condition upon use….which restricts or prohibits directly, or indirectly limits, the acquisition, use, or occupancy of such property for a family day care home for children is void”. This
means that homeowners or tenants who live within associations that have covenants,
conditions or regulations are not restricted from providing family child care, even
though the covenant may prohibit a business, commercial or professional use of
the property. These covenants do not apply to providing family child care.

To the law wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:36 PM:So........can you summarize your conclusion for us?

Ed wrote on Jun 10, 2008 4:05 AM:Dave, Ms. Coyle does not own the house she is renting. Visit the street and see for your self what the traffice will be like. There will be heavy traffic in the morning anf in the evening when parents take their childern to daycare. The parents are turning around in privite driveways.
Dave there might be a house avaliable soon if this passes.

How wrote on Jun 10, 2008 5:21 AM:How in the world can the city not let Coyle increase the number of kids she takes in when all over the city the council allows many seperate familes (and all their cars etc) to live in single family zoned residences, devaluing property values, incresing crime and lowering the quality of life for the nearby neighbors. Sounds like different5 sets of standards to me..

Maybe... wrote on Jun 10, 2008 7:03 AM:Mr. Ed should move to a retirement community! That way his nappytime won't be disrupted by the laughter and chatter of small children.

To ED and TOM wrote on Jun 10, 2008 7:07 AM:Maybe you should move in together.You could be rocking chair buddies. To Tom..you cannot open an auto repair shop even if you wanted to because it is not zoned in your neighborhood. A daycare is zoned for that. Why do you care if Ms. Coyle owns or rents. Her daycare is between her and her landlord. Shesh! You people need to get a life already!

D wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:03 AM:Good Luck Ms. Coyle. There should be no reason what so ever the city should not allow you to expand your childcare from 8 to 14. It's people like you that make us hard working parents be able to put food on the table each and every night, and pay the bills so we have a place to lay our children's head down night to night. God Bless and i hope the city gives you what you want.

Crystal wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:21 AM:Ok well i have mix feelings about this really, for one i do agree that she should do whatever it takes to make money to take care of her family, and who are those people to tell her she can't really.. But then on the other hand i do agree with all those people that would be alot of noise for everyone else that wants to try and sleep maybe, watch t.v. or just sit and read a book and relax, or maybe someone does not feel well and does not want to hear all those kids, not everyone likes kids you know.. I can tell you i'm a Mother with 3 kids and i use to years ago work in daycares, and i have alot of children living where i live here and BOY when all these kids are outside all the time and they are screaming and fighting and playing, they even get on my nearves haha and make my head hurt I have to shut all my windows all the time, so ummm yeah i would hate to live next to someone with a daycare center if i was a home owner really .. So i understand both side here .. Good Luck to her and everyone else !!

No More wrote on Jun 10, 2008 12:13 PM:Residential just means that. No more conducting a business in contrary to the zoning laws of Vista. Just because you throw children into the mix (no I do not hate children) does not justified the intrusion onto the neighborhood. Do you want another Halfway House, Hospice, Home for Trouble Youth or some other type of group home next door to you? I don't think so? Vista already has zoning for such activities in non-residential parts of town where they belong.

Diane wrote on Jun 10, 2008 12:51 PM:Most of you who are complaining aren't even home during the day. By your own remarks, you are busy commuting. Society disintegrates when children are not valued. The sound of children playing is music to my ears.

Imani wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:03 PM:First of all it makes no sense why the kids can not play more than 2 hours a day. The kids will be unhealthy and also those neighbors do not have to live in the neighborhood. Also, did they ever think about just buying ear plugs. But you are taking away a chance to not have so many children out because some of the kids in my neighborhood are out as soon as the get home. That neighborhood is lucky to have a daycare in their neighborhood.

Imani, 4th grade, Temecula, CA

skylar wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:03 PM:If I was the daycare lady i would say who cares. I would just say kids go play out side but be quiet. I would tell the next door neighbors to go move to Washington.

Skylar, 3rd grade, Temecula, CA

Meadow wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:04 PM:I THINK that the day care should expand. Kids should have fun at day cares.But the kids should not be too loud.

Meadow, 3rd grade, Temecula, CA

kalia wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:05 PM:why doesn't any one have a simpler suggestion? Why doesn't any one move or get ear plugs or even help her? Kalia, 3rd grader, Temecula, CA

Anthony wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:09 PM:I would just let the kids play as long as they want and give them extra care when they get hurt outside when they are playing.

Anthony, 3rd grader, Temecula,CA

Brooke wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:10 PM:THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEXT DOOR OR BEHIND SHOULD BUY SOME EAR PLUGS IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE SOUND OF WONDERFUL CHILDREN LIKE MY SELF.

BROOKE, 3RD GRADER, TEMECULA, CA

Tighe wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:13 PM:KIDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE IN DAYCARE!!!!!

Tighe, 3rd grader, Temecula, CA

Ericka wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:14 PM:Well first of all I think the kids should play outside more then two hours a day and if the kids are too noise why don't the neighbors move or buy some ear plugs so they can do what ever they were doing and they will hear nothing at all.

Ericka, 4th grader, Temecula, CA

Dave wrote on Jun 10, 2008 8:59 PM:So what was the outcome, i am just curious!

Too much stupidity... wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:28 PM:Reading the negative responses just makes me want to SCREAM!!! 1st ? - why would city council approve this, just to change their minds and deny it? Who or what influenced them? Was their a threat of some sort - "I can make sure that you don't re-elected next go around!' 2nd ? - what gives the association and the so-called neighbors the right to push this particular person around? Its just ridiculous the time that has been spent on such stupid stuff like this. There are so many more things that the neighbors, HOA, let alone the city could be working on. I hope someone gets smart and realizes that someone needs to let this woman earn a living and tell the association to go after people who park their cars illegally (ha-ha)...

Vista Taxpayer wrote on Jun 15, 2008 5:14 PM:The law states that City & HOA's can't prohibit home childcares. The City KNOWS this and STILL denied the permit that their own Planning Staff approved TWICE. City Council says this childcare is just in the 'wrong place' & know there will be a lawsuit and they will lose. Lucy Coyle will fight for the children's rights and will win-good for her. Looks like there will be some vacancies on the Vista City Council soon...Maybe next time they will elect people to concentrate on 'Real Issues' to help the economy. Ms. Coyle supporter!

chris wrote on Jul 29, 2008 1:08 PM:I live next to a day care. There are 15+ children outside from 7 am to 8 pm mon thru fri. I work nights and I am tired in the morning. I would love to sit out on my deck with some quiet time. I also have parents blocking my driveway , some even park in it. I would love to see it all go away!