John wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:11 AM:For Clifford.Richardson could not deliver New Mexico. Hillary won it. He had 3 cabinet appointments in the Clinton administration. He is abrasive and betrayed Clintons and will given the chance betray Obama.

No Hillary wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:33 AM:I agree that putting Clinton on the B. HUSSEIN Oba-ma ticket would be a disaster, because it would virtually guarantee Mr. B. HUSSEIN Oba-ma a victory. After all, who got more votes? It certainly was NOT Mr. B. HUSSEIN Oba-ma!

Yo Stephen wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:36 AM:Good point, bro! But remember...these ARE deomcrats! And speaking of deomcrats, I wonder if Ted has received a get-well card from the Kopechnes?

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 5:39 AM:The news is reporting that a top Cuban baseball player, Dayan Viciedo, has defected to the U.S. How can that be? If you listen to liberals and the way they spew their hate for America, why didnt he defect to Venezuela? Mexico? Iran? Yeman? Saudi Arabia? North Korea or China. These are the state the liberals so admire.

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 6:02 AM:>>>Is Iran the next war?
The Bush/Cheney junta, along with their neoconservative cheerleaders in Congress>> Not if Hussein becomes president. He will capitulate to the Iranian and North Korean development of nuclear weapons and sit back as Israel is decimated. By the way, why do the liberals cheer Iran for their nuclear development, and prevent Bush from building nuclear energy plants to supply this nation with adequate power??

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 6:08 AM:>>>The best choice for vice president, IMO, would be Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico.>>> The American people were loud and clear when it came to the immigration issue, and Hussein and Richardson were the first to say "Screw You", and pushed forward their full amnesty and citizenship plans

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 7:01 AM:ohn[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:11 AM Just another opinion. Richardson endorsed Obama. I rather doubt that he would be the VP nominee. Probably Clinton. But, I would like to have someone like Jim Webb of VA.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 7:21 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 5:39 AM: Drivel and lies. Liberals do not hate America. Liberal do not cheer Iranian efforts for nuclear power. Liberals did not prevent Bush and his rubber stamp Congress for 7 years from building nuclear plants. Wonder why they did not?

To Yo Stephen wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:07 AM:How rude!!

Alf wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:08 AM:We filled up the rental car in Kaua'i on Saturday at $4.29.9 per gallon. The price at the corner gas station (that begins with an S) in Encinitas was $4.39.9 on Sunday. The gasoline in Kaua'i had to be shipped there, across the Pacific. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it. Regards, Alf.

To Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:09 AM:I agree he is wise and has good pratcial experiences. He has great ideas on the ecomony, war, and other issues that concern Americans. OBAMA in 2008!!!!

Why it matters wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:15 AM:When people complain that talking to our enemies or learning about how our policies anger them, they make a terrible blunder. They suppose that all Muslims or all Iranians feel just the same way about everything. In fact, the enemy is a tiny percentage of the Muslim world. The minds of those in that group cannot be changed. But the vast majority are moderates. What about them? Would we rather learn about them and consider their point of view, or should we just behave as though they are also enemies and ignore and insult them? What makes someone shift from a moderate to a radical position? Isn't that something worth thinking about?

Simple Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:16 AM:The Cuban ballplayer? He knows that the US is a great place to be wealthy. Simple. What this has to do with anything else, I don't know.

To Megan wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:32 AM:I agree with your comments on second hand smoke, but there is something more deadly to you and your classmates. It is the cancer causing, global warming exhaust from your teachers and parents cars. Please ask them for your sake to take public transportation so we will all a live long and healthy life. Remeber it is up to your parents, teachers and your political leaders to keep you safe from auto immissions.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:34 AM:I think Clifford Brown has it about right.
Putting Hillary on the ticket as VP would be a disaster! Can you just imagine? With Hil in the VP seat, she'd have old Bill hanging around. Obviously, they'd have to give him something to do, just to keep the guy outta trouble.
And "John" @1:11 AM nailed it,
Richardson couldn't even deliver New Mexico. The guy has no "gravitas."
Word on the street is, he'll need someone who has actually "run something." A Governor would probably be a good fit. I would like to suggest the Obamaman choose someone like Govenor Blagojevich, the current governor of Illinois. Seems to me they appear to think a lot alike, and run in the same circles.

Surfer wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:37 AM:Alf[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:08 AM: Hey Brah. Get any good pics? Did you at least try to boogie board. Regards Dude. Surfer

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:38 AM:>>We filled up the rental car in Kaua'i on Saturday at $4.29.9 per gallon>> We just did that same trip, and filled up at that Shell on the south side of Kapaa for $4.39. I bet its $4.89 now, as the liberals refuse to drill for 1 additional drop, yet praise Chavez and Castro for their new wells

Diogenes wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:51 AM:Chuck says "The American people were loud and clear when it came to the immigration issue", but I seem to remember that anti-immigrant candidates Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter didn't do very well - AMONG REPUBLICANS! And the guy who won the nomination supported comprehensive immigration reform. But then, Chuck can say whatever he wants. It doesn't need to have a scintilla of truth.

Yokozuna to Alf Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:53 AM:We're doing Kona (Kamuela) beginning later this week. Let you know what the prices are there.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:56 AM:Hey Stephen Logan, you forgot to mention 2004. "I actually voted for the $87 billion, before I voted against it."

Aloha wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:58 AM:Poor Chuck. I picture him and his lucky family in Hawaii. The balmy winds, the beautiful sea, the beaches, the sun. But nevertheless, there's Chuck at the wheel, grumbling and cursing liberals non-stop. He looks beyond the breakers and hisses that we should be drilling there, and there, and there... It's gotta be great living with Chuck, don't you think?

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:06 AM:REUTERS:
"ran, Iraq agree to boost defense cooperation." If talking with Iran makes you an appeaser, what do you call your alleged ally when they openly negotiate with Iran?

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:11 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 8:38 AM: Drivel again from Chuckie. Nothing wrong with Chavez and Castro drilling for oil within their territory or territorial waters. Liberals neither praised nor criticized them for doing so. Would the oil companies, if allowed to drill for oil in the US, charge less, the same or more than the world market oil prices to the American people? We both know they would charge the world oil price. By the way, why did you Repubs with your oil man President not drill during your 7 year dictatorship? I know. You were waiting for the price to go sky high so you could then reap the largest profit available. That is if you obtain the go ahead.

Frankie wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:12 AM:Charles Maxwell wants us to "think long and hard before redefining" marriage. I agree. We thought long and hard before redefining property ownership, which included slaves, only husbands owning property, and husbands owning their wives and children. These traditions went back thousands of years, but we are slowly becoming more civilized, intelligent . . evolved. Maybe that's the issue, some people don't believe in evolution, progress. If it was good enough for sheep herders who stoned women (not men) for adultery, by Zeus, it's good enough for us. Our constitutions were once regarded as signs of civilization and human progress, but the California Supreme Court says the California Constitution forbids discrimination against homosexuals, so some people want to change it. We should "think long and hard" before doing that.

To sprinting travis wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:20 AM:San Diego has the Trolly. It is similar to the Sprinter in many ways, but NCTD's Sprinter is 1/2 BILLION Dollars in debt. MTS's Airport bus that harmonizes with traffic runs in a loop that connects the Trolly, Coaster and Amtrack to the airport. It runs every 15 min. Dont mess it up with NCTD's sprinter

Alf wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:24 AM:Well, "Chuck" and "Surfer" and "Yokozuna to Alf Chuck" and "Aloha", in all fairness, we did shop around a bit and found that, oddly enough, the price of name brand gas was lower near the airport in Lihue than elsewhere (either in Po'ipu where my sister-in-law was staying or in Princeville where we were staying). Regards, Alf.

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:28 AM:>>>He looks beyond the breakers and hisses that we should be drilling there, and there,>>> As your type sits there applauding while Cuba, Venezuela, the Saudis, Nigerians, Mexicans and Indonesia take billions of our dollars at their phnoney prices and as inflation and joblessness ruins America. Go ahead, pad yourself on the back, as America's truckes ask Hussein in the debates, why do you refuse to protect our jobs against these gas prices, and seniors ask Hussein, why can't I afford to go to the grocery store because you won't allow Bush to flood the world market with oil?

Asteroid wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:34 AM:The FBI is offering a million dollar reward for information leading to the capture of Adam Gadhon, for charges of aiding and abetting the enemy and treason. Conventional wisdom begs the question, why’s Adam Gadhon so special; how does he differ from our own Chris (Pulse), Eric Parish, Pluto, and other local leftists. Courage, for starters. For all his crimes against his own nation, at least he had the courage to leave the country he loathes so badly, travel across the globe and embrace a barbaric people who could have just as easily cut his head off as give him the time of day. Our local whiners just sit at a computer all day in the comfort of their modest homes with full knowledge that they’re safe and protected by the U. S. constitution, and charge everyone that doesn’t agree with them of being racists and bigots. Fools and Cowards all.

Alf wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:36 AM:Well, "Surfer" at 8:37AM, I got some good photographs, my wife went snorkeling. I never went in the water but have some surreal shots of water that will have people saying that I "Photoshopped it" when it was a "straight shot" with Mother Nature providing all the effects. The Bubba Burgers are still fine. Regards, Alf.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:48 AM:It seems to me, Bruce Silva. If the Iranians would stop their front man from talking about "wiping countries off the map", we might be able to agree their pursuit of nuclear technology is for "peaceful purposes."
Is it just me, or does his letter today, like many other's seem just a bit light on logic? Personally, I think some of these lib's have gotten themselves so worked up about Bush & Cheney, and in all their kookiness, have completely gone AWOL on facts.
Are we not talking about a terrorist regime? A regime who has not only killed Americans, but Muslims? And a regime who has attempted at virtually every level to to overthrow governments, by killing off politicians and citizens?
But, this is just so typically liberal in thought, ya know? I can still remember when the lib's came out in full force trying to prevent the execution of Stanley "Tookie" Williams, the 4 time murderer. It's never anyone's fault, they can "be saved", and it's because of America they act this way. It is the liberal mantra: Blame America First.

Maxwell not Smart wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:52 AM:Charles Maxwell's letter is mistaken on so many levels. First of all, marriage has changed dramatically from place to place and time to time. To pretend it has been defined the same "for all of human history" shows a breathtaking lack of knowledge and understanding. Second, we don't choose our sexual orientation any more than we choose our color/race/ethnicity, so discrimination against gays "goes against common sense as well as common decency". Kids don't need "a dad and a mom". While it's great to have two loving parents, children are successfully raised under lots of different circumstances, including with two mommies or two daddies. Good parents come in every configuration (race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, political persuasion, single, pair, etc), as do bad parents. Finally, heterosexual-only marriage IS "purely a religious issue" being pushed by certain right-wing Christians. Most Christians can see that Jesus never condemned homosexuality, nor do the 128 "commandments" contained in Exodus 20-23. BTW, these so-called "values" Christians have been noticeably silent about this unjust war in Iraq. They obviously pick and choose which (obscure) Bible passages to obsess about, and which to ignore.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:03 AM:You know... When I read a letter like Travis Murray's today, I really must shake my head. He says we need to:
"Build a more-efficient and larger Sprinter system that travels all through San Diego County..."
Gosh, Travis.. At $488 million a pop, I don't know how much more for efficiency we can handle. Especially when you consider that 70% of all operating costs are paid for by non-riders. Hardly efficient.
But, on a good note. I noticed the otherday that mass transit officials have decided to raise the cost of riding. It's about time. But, they haven't raised them enough, in my opinion. Barely enough to cover the cost of increasing fuel costs, and not enough to make a dent in making these "wonder's of mass transit" to pay their fair share.

Stepped in it wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:16 AM:Jack Strumpf stepped squarely into it by saying "The only reason the Holocaust is ever brought up . . is because the likes of Pulse . . et al., keep espousing their anti-Israel stance". That's exactly the point, Jack, the policies of Israel have absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust! What the Nazis did was unspeakably horrific, but that doesn't justify the murderous injustices Israel perpetrates against Palestinians and others Muslims in the region. (And I don't know what to say about someone who "never heard of the U.S. systematically murdering American Indians" - WOW!) BTW, it's important to note that there has always been a large and active peace movement among Jews in Israel who don't like Israeli policies any more than Pulse & Parish.

Floyd wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:29 AM:Other media outlets are now wringing their virtual hands over Hillary Clinton's failed bid for the presidential nomination. Generally, they're taking a sexist view of the defeat by claiming it was caused by her gender and not necessarily by her positions on the issues or her track record. They're also asking if she's "damaged the glass ceiling", apparently unaware that the Democrat's former VP candidate Geraldine Ferraro has been there and done that.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:33 AM:BILLY BOY! Some people are worried that if an Obama/Clinton ticket is elected that President Bill Clinton would have nothing to do. He has plenty to do and is probably booked for a life time. But, just in case, keep away from the Oval Office in the PM.

OBSERVATION wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:36 AM:WASHINGTON - President Bush, beginning a splashy farewell trip to Europe, expressed both concern and confidence Monday about the U.S. economy, shaken by soaring energy prices, rising unemployment and a severe credit crunch.

Sorry Megan wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:36 AM:I'm not a smoker, but I must say that you are wrong about secondhand smoke on the beaches. I know there are studies showing the dangers of such smoke, but the amount of it in the air on a breezy wide-open beach just has to be about zero. That smoke presents no danger to anyone. Smokers have become an easy target for moralizers. I support keeping public places safe. Smoking should be banned indoors, especially when you think of employees who would be exposed for hours daily. But outdoors? I just don't see how that's justified on health-concern grounds.

gay marriage wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:40 AM:I can understand how people want to reserve the word "marriage" for its traditional meaning (in our society). What I cannot understand is why we discriminate against homosexuals in matters that are legal and financial. I say: let the word "marriage" be reserved for a religious ceremony and let each church or group do it in any way they wish. But the union of two adults under the law, which is the basis for legal and financial benefits accruing to such couples, must not discriminate. Call them "civil unions" or something else. This seems like a very simple solution to the whole problem, doesn't it?

Lucky you wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:43 AM:Looks like everybody is going to Hawaii except me. My family is going to Escondido for our summer vacation, & taking the Sprinter. Anybody in the market for an '83 Tercel?

Reardon wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:50 AM:Chuck: I am the World Expert on Kauai -- lived there for years, four months a year for decades. Contact Alf for my e-mail address, and we will communicate next time you go to that island. I have written many pages on Kauai culture, history and politics on my website -- and where to get the best Mai-tai, hamburgers, fun...I wrote for a travel newsletter for many years...aloha

Surfer wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:54 AM:A lot of Americans are concerned about our economy," Bush said. "I can understand why. Gasoline prices are high, energy prices are high. I do remind them that we have put a stimulus package forward that is expected to help boost the economy. And of course, we'll be monitoring the situation." Dudes. Stimulus package was supposed to stimulate the economy. Don't see how paying more money to the oil man and the Middle Easterners is going to stimulate the economy. Brahs, have to put that new surf board on hold. But Thanks anyway Mr.Bush as you to go Europe to give your many goody good byes.

to Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:03 AM:It is well known that the Iraqi leadership is getting along very well with Iran. When the US was accusing some Iranians in Iraq of mischief, the Iraqi government pointed out that they had been invited and were helping the Iraqis. It seems to infuriate Washington that Iraqi leaders will not passively accept the (false) notion that Iran is pure evil. Hence, in the new "accord" that Bush is trying to coerce Maliki to sign, it stipulates that the US military can operate freely in Iraq on any missions it wishes without needing to consult with the Iraqi government. It further stipulates that US forces (including "contractors") will be immune from Iraqi law. Some partnership, eh? Some spreading of democracy, eh? Can you imagine giving permission to a foreign nation to set up 50 military bases in the US, permission to carry on any military operations it wishes without needing to check with Washington, and being immune from US law? That's what Bush is demanding of the Iraqi government. You think the Iraqi people will sit for this? Would you?

Same question Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:07 AM:As you have been asked a thousand times, how have the liberals (or anyone) prevented Bush from doing anything? Especially from 2000 to 2006 when he had a rubber stamping Congress (recall that Bush used the veto exactly zero times during that period)? If you want to complain about Bush not doing something, blame Bush. You've been called a thousand times on your insistance that somehow the whole country is controlled by liberals, and you've yet to answer that challenge. Is it because you can't? That's what I thought.

The true Asteroid wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:12 AM:I appreciate Asteroid's post of 9:34. There you have it, folks, clear as day: anyone who disagrees with conservatives is, literally, treasonous. Poor Asteroid. So many nations have laws exactly like that. Burma. China. Cuba. Even Iraq did before the invasion. These are the places that Asteroid should have been born in, places he'd feel at home. But, alas, in the US we have the first amendment. Sorry, Asteroid. Maybe it's you who should consider moving! Your infinite loyalty to the Great Leader would be handsomely rewarded elsewhere. Your desire to see all dissenters locked up or executed would be fulfilled. Face it, you'd be much happier.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:17 AM:My good buddy the Wizzer has been on a bit of a rant lately, that I just have to address. It's this supposed "can't do mentality of conservatives."
And in his {Jun 8} post at 1:02 PM, he goes on to blather on mindlessly about things that just aren't so.
Now, what he claims is that it is the liberals who are the can do'ers, but let's put that to a test, shall we?
He goes on to talk about "clean, renewable non-terrorist-dependent energy alternatives." Within my own circles, I don't know a single person who is not wanting alternatives to be a part of our energy mix. Our problem, it seems to me, is the "can't do" attitude of the left and their friends in the enviromentalist crowd. We have an opportunity to pipe in clean energy into San Diego, but the leftists don't want to build the plumbing to bring it into the city. They are the one's stuck on rooftop solar as the only alternative, which will not meet the growing needs of our metro area.
In fact, his alternative of rooftop solar & an electric car seems to be for those who can afford it. I mean... if you buy the solar, and the plug-in car, your looking at a minimum of a $50,000 investment. What low wage worker can afford that? This is what I mean about lib's and their menu, they will offer you only what they decide you should have. So, they attempt to thwart the PowerLink to make rooftop solar & an electric car your ONLY alternative, even if you can't afford it.
I've done quite a bit of research about how many times we have been prevented by these same "solar-loving", "alternative pushing" leftists to precisely prevent us from employing these same alternatives. It's as I say: Out of one side they say one thing, then out of the other side they say it hurts the environment. Can't build dams, can't build wind turbines, can't build large solar arrays, cant, can't can't... You catching the drift here?
But I just love how he includes the Manhattan Project from a "liberal"
president? This same technology we spend great amounts of money to develop, we are now being denied. Yeah, that's showing em!
And as to NASA, while going to the moon was a great incentive, my good buddy completely forgets about WHO actually put us there! It was the hundreds of Corporations like McDonell who did it!
These very same corporations my buddy likes to call evil, and greedy, and profiteers.
The real reason we went to space apparently has been lost on our good friend, we meant to pre-empt the Soviets from gaining space during the Cold War. It was, in fact, a defense program. And out of this race, we benefited greatly from technology sought to beat the Russians.
Why do we only get one side from these guys?

Help me Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:18 AM:In your 9:48 letter are you talking about Iran or the US? A regime talking about wiping other regimes off the map? Killing Americans and Muslims? Pursuing nuclear weaponry? Oh, wait! I see, it's Iran. We have ACTUALLY wiped other regimes off the map. And we've ACTUALLY got nuclear weapons. In fact, we have a bunch hovering off the coast of Iran right now, just itching to be fired at Iranians. Sorry.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:23 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:28 AM:
LoL. Oh Chuckie, Obama isn't President yet. You need to address your question to your good buddy and oil man, GWB.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:24 AM:Asteroid[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:34 AM:
You and Chuckie are hoot. Well, Mike America, free speech is a guaranteed right. The other activities of the traitor were not committed by Chris Pulse or Eric Parish.

Surfer wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:26 AM:Alf[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:36 AM: Kahuna. What is the new Hawaiian devil egg recipe? Regards, Surfer

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:27 AM:to Focal Point[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:03 AM: That is what Bush calls sovereignty!

Pluto wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:40 AM:Asteroid's rant is amazing! He condmemns some of us for "just sit(ing) at a computer all day in the comfort of their modest homes with full knowledge that they’re safe and protected by the U. S. constitution, and charge everyone that doesn’t agree with them of being racists and bigots", while he does the exactly same thing, calling us "fools and cowards" instead. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with sitting at our computer in the comfort of our modest homes. I don't do it all day, however. I'm often at meetings or out in the community trying to change what I don't like. And I don't think there's anything wrong with calling someone a racist or bigot if they are. That's the issue, what's true? Asteroid has apparently become frustrated with discussing what's true and false. Instead of engaging on that level, he has simply chosen to call us names. On the level of true-false, Chris Pulse, Eric Parish and I are not fools or cowards. It takes great courage for Chris and Eric to sign letters which go against the government and it's powerful propaganda machine.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:42 AM:gay marriage[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 10:40 AM: The point is that marriage defined under the law is a civil union. That is why you have to have a marriage license to get married and why the priest, rabbi or high muckity muck must be licensed by the state to perform the ceremony. So, lets call all marriage ceremonies regardless of who performs the ceremony or where it is performed, civil unions. OOPS. Religious traditionalist could not accept that policy. So, the homosexuals can not accept their civil unions not being called and recognized as marriages.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:49 AM:I see I must again correct the misinformation. Our buddy "Why it matters" @8:15 AM is but one of those who simply do not get what this is about.
He refers to "moderate" Muslims.
What is a moderate Muslim? Since I have a few Muslim aquaintences, I think I have a little bit of information that might be useful here.
These moderates do not appreciate our sense of freedom, nor do they like the many ways some within our society express it. In fact, they hate it. They see it as dirty, unclean, and sinful.
They can not understand how a "Christian nation" would allow such decadence, and it confirms to them, their belief that Christians are unclean as well, for allowing such behavior.
That is why the Iranian President could say openly "there are no homosexuals in Iran", and not one Muslim blinked. It is simply not allowed, and that's normal for them.
I really do not know what these lib's actually know about these so-called "moderates", because they aren't moderate in our sense of the word.
This is why you see the push by Muslims to separate themselves in public schools. You want to teach putting a condom on a cucumber with them? They won't have it. The Left is completely confused about the cultural gap that exists. They don't want our kind of freedom as certain groups practise it. Gay parades, and tongue kissing men. It confirms to them they are on the right path, and shows them we have no shame. That's exactly what they see. Ask em.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:57 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:28 AM:
Ola partner. I know that Bush is a big oil man. But, does he have enough oil to flood the world market? Can Bush compete with the Middle East in the production of that black crude gold? I do not think so. And why pray tell would it go to the world market? Why not ear mark it for the American market. After all, its American oil? Hombres, let us face it. American oil companies want to drill for oil on American land to get the American oil not for the benefit of this nation or our people. The muy rico patrons want it for the world market where they can cash in on the big buckos. The 'compassionate conservative" won't help his countrymen because he is too busy saying adios to the Europeans.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:59 AM:I want you all to read what our friend "Help me Ron" @11:18 AM wrote.
He is one of those who I've been talking about, they have completely gone AWOL on logic, facts, and place America into the very same catagory as Iran. This is exactly what the Chris Pulse's of the world write about, of course, from the talking points gains from the World Workers Daily.
Sir, we are not "the same" as Iran. Your attempt to equate us to them is both contemptable, and irrational.
But, I want you all to read his post, to see what your really working with here. They are the "Blame America First" crowd.

Cal wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:59 AM:Stephen Logan... Hahahaha. Always a hoot when republicans tell democrats how to run their party. Dude, Michigan and Florida broke the rules and held early elections. Will their votes count if they do that in November and it swings the election to McCain? How 'bout if it swings the election to Obama?

to yo Stephen at am wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:04 PM:Hey, I wonder if Dick Cheney or George W. Bush will get any get well cards from the families of the 4,000 plus dead US troops who died for their propaganda induced war in Iraq? Frankly, I'm tired of the Democratic Republican civil war in this country. Time to grow up dude.

Asteroid wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:08 PM:The response to my earlier blog by Offal Pointless (11:24) is a good example of why I don’t waste my time debating liberals. I clearly remarked that the aforementioned fools and cowards are “protected by the U. S. constitution”. Nowhere did I accuse pulse and parish of treason. It’s not that he chooses to ignore it, he didn’t understand it. He’s too obsessed with defending like minded people like chris and eric to debate logically. At least Pluto understood the topic; “courage”.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:09 PM:Ron[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:49 AM: Hey this is the USA. They can have their parochial schools just like the Christians. That is so long as the fulfill the requisites and regulations of the respective state. And, in my humble opinion, they are right about being unclean and sinful. Just watch TV tonight to see the soft porn. Check out private video stores. Check out that back room for all the DVD porn? You know its there? Listen to the extreme foul language used by our youth in public places. Observe the bad manners or the lack of manners shown by many Americans especially when they are driving around in their various types cars and trucks. Go downtown Gas Lamp about 12:00 pm to 2:00 pm and see the public drunkenness and drug use or just visit your public parks. Yeah your right. The Muslims are disgusted with our society. I am just wondering why all the priest, ministers and rabbis are not as vocal in their condemnation. OPPs. I forgot that religion especially televised religion is very big bucks. But the bottom line is that the Supreme Being (fill in the blank) gave us free will. The Constitution guarantees us the right to sin so long as we do not hurt some one else. "Oh Lord, don't let me be misunderstood."

Oh Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:09 PM:Just to be clear about your views of moderate Muslims. Are you saying that because they have a different value system from our faux-Christian or secular one, that all Muslims agree that they should be in all-out war with us? That all of them support any act of violence against the "west"? That they are, in essence, all terrorists? If not, my point stands. I would offer this: that one of the things that takes an ordinary Muslim who may find Hollywood culture repellant (as many Christians and Jews and Buddhists do), and pushes this person into one ready for violence is humiliation. Bin Laden has talked about this often, as have many experts in the area. As we put our military bases in their countries and our "values" are on display on their turf and armed, their attitudes get a little push towards radicalism. Comprende? This is why SO many people agree that the Iraq invasion was such a fabulous recruitment tool for radical Islamic groups.

Nice try Asteroid wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:12 PM:Here's what you said earlier QUOTE "The FBI is offering a million dollar reward for information leading to the capture of Adam Gadhon, for charges of aiding and abetting the enemy and treason. Conventional wisdom begs the question, why’s Adam Gadhon so special; how does he differ from our own Chris (Pulse), Eric Parish, Pluto, and other local leftists. Courage, for starters." ENDQUOTE In other words, Chris, Eric, etc differ from Adam only in that he had the courage to leave the US. The crimes, you imply, are the same.

PonderThis wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:18 PM:Everyone says that the American economy is on the decline.

Anyone ever think that the power of the dollar could make a comeback if we stopped using plastic to pay for everything? Save up your money for those fancy new toys in the house or whatever it is you are buying on credit and all of a sudden people aren't in over their necks trying to pay their bills.

Oh, and for this supposed housing crisis...yes, it is unfortunate for those people who lost their only home. But for those who were looking to make a buck and buying a second and third home, well, it looks like maybe you overspent yourself. If you are that crafty to be able to purchase a second and third home then maybe you should have read the small print where it said your interest rates would BALLOON up and that you would have to pay a higher mortage rate. And why didn't the banks that loaned the money go, look, obviously, you are going to get yourself into a bad position and you might want to rethink what you are doing. Oh, thats right because they were greedy too!

But yet, the majority wants to blame the President for their spending habits and greed driven decisions. How sad that we must have someone else to blame and that the majority can't look in the mirror and accept that the decisions we make is what puts us in the positions that we get into.

May God bless you all!

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:19 PM:Asteroid[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:08 PM:
LOL. You mean you only have the intellectual capability and making assertions. You can not defend your allegations and assertions. That is why they do not receive any regard.

Oh Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:37 PM:Why are you trying to associate Iran with the World Workers? Is Iran behind the iron curtain now? Instead of tossing out words like "contemptible", why not just explain what was actually false in that post. Has the US actually perpetrated regime change in sovereign nations that did not attack the US? Has the US an arsenal pointed at countries it disapproves of? Has the US funded and supported terrorist organizations and acts? Making claims like this would certainly be contemptible if they were false. But since they are so obviously true, perhaps it's those policies themselves which are contemptible. Perhaps it's Ron that need the help.

Yokozuna to Ponder This wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:41 PM:Thanks, I've been waiting for someone to address the individual credit abuses. There is close to $950 billion on personal credit cards. Google credit card debt. Even before the current financial situation it was high. The interest these debtors are paying is enormous. It's all about American self indulgence coupled with a lack of self discipline. It's amazing how many can criticize the government for running debts when they themselves can't keep their personal economies in check.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:44 PM:PonderThis[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:18 PM You are absolutely correct. The American people have been purchasing and living on credit dollars for over 50 years. Most Americans have numerous credit cards all charged to the hilt. Well this condition integrated with a falling dollar, a huge national debt, war and high gas prices which will effect not only gasoline but plastic and petro chemicals is eating us alive. So, we, Americans need to live within our means and pay off all this debt. If we do, just perhaps, this country can be saved for our great great grand children.

Alf wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:54 PM:Well, "Focal Point" at 11:42AM, if the "civil union" of homosexuals carried with it EXACTLY the same LEGAL RIGHTS and RESPONSIBILITIES as a hetersexual "marriage" and was RECOGNIZED IN ALL STATES, there would be no problem. As it is, a homosexual "civil union" does NOT convey ALL the same LEGAL rights and responsibilities and is NOT recognized in ALL states, hence, INEQUALITY under the law. Regards, Alf.

DD Wiz wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:55 PM:The post from "Ron" (8:56am) is nothing more than his way of letting us know how little he knows of real history.
Like so many other conservatives, he has to denigrate the guy who's not even running this year (John Kerry) by taking a quote completely out of context. Of course, the goal is to try to make Kerry look silly or like a flip-flopper, but all "Ron" is really doing is making himself look silly.
Of course the actual quote about voting for the war funding before voting against it has to do with support of the bipartisan war funding bill. After slightly differing versions passed the House and Senate and it went to conference committee to be standardized, the mean-spirited troublemakers on the Republican side realized they had enough votes without any Democrats, and so added a "poison pill" anti-labor amendment they knew no Democrat could support.
Kerry's point was that he supported a clean funding bill, but not one that was maliciously altered in conference committee with the intent of forcing Democrats to vote against it.
Omitting relevant facts that change the meaning is an much a LIE as an outright direct whopper.

And the post from "Ron" at 11:17am is just more of his rambling dissembling ranting that does not really say anything. He defends the "can't do" mentality of those, like himself, who profit off the current suffering of others while those like me offer serious alternatives. "Ron" and the rest of the oil stock profiteers just want more drilling. But the first step when you're trying to get out of a hole is STOP DIGGING.

Ms M wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:59 PM:PonderThis
[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:18 PM: But yet, the majority wants to blame the President for their spending habits and greed driven decisions. How sad that we must have someone else to blame and that the majority can't look in the mirror and accept that the decisions we make is what puts us in the positions that we get into. No I don't blame Bush for the spending habits - I balme him for not regulating the greedy folks who have made the loans knowing the borrowers could not pay.

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:02 PM:You say war, like only an armed war is necessary, "Oh Ron" @12:09 PM.
Have you seen Europe lately? And, right now in our own country, they don't have to be "at war" with us. You lib's are willingly handing it over to them, because your afraid of offending them.
An example, footbath's. Do you really think Christians could have gotten this kind of treatment? For their religion?
Especially, when you consider WHERE these footbaths were built, on university campuses at taxpayer expense.
Do ya actually & honestly think that Christians could have gotten these consessions? Perhaps a Bible reading room?
This is why Bin Laden approached the Saud's and asked them to let him & his forces guard Saudi Arabia, to prevent unclean Americans from being on holy ground. When the Saud's denied him, he placed them into the same catagory as the Americans, needing to be done away with.
"The War", as it were, is because we are seen as the most powerful in the world, and are seen as influencing them in unclean ways. And they want us out of the way, so they can perfect the Muslim paradise under Sharia law.
Not "all Muslims" agree that they should be in all-out war with us, but all Muslims agree we are sinful, and decadent. They will use our courts, and our democracy as a tool, just as they have successfully done in Europe, to mandate sharia law into our legal system. It's been done in Canada, Britian, France, and Germany.
And it has been allowed, because liberals, such as yourself, are afraid to offend anyone, especially a minority.
If you can not see the world wide spread of this, then you need to do some more reading.
You keep on believing all that blather about "moderate" Muslims being like you.
They despise people like you, because you proport the very things that they abhor.

Asteroid wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:05 PM:Focal Point
[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:19 PM:
WOW…you got me…that sure was profound! Even though you choose not to honor our prior agreement to agree to disagree and not comment on each others blogs, I will, and I’ll continue to ignore you. You’re as vapid and vacuous as ever and I don’t derive any particular pleasure jousting with a defenseless person.

Oh Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:16 PM:First, you don't know anything about what I support, and having footbaths in schools is certainly not one of them. But never mind. Most of what you say about Muslims, their beliefs and wants, is true of fundamentalist Christians as well. Like the Muslims, they would transform our public world into a faith-centered one, especially the schools. Like the Muslims, they completely condemn our decadence, our sex, our drugs, our alcohol, our hedonism. I can't speak for any liberals except myself, but I certainly would oppose any religion assuming power over the public sphere, as I always have. And I don't care if they "despise me", as you say, as long as they don't act it out. Each of us probably despises sets of people for their beliefs or behavior. So what? This justifies killing them? That, my friend, might be a definition of "terrorism".

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:22 PM:Alf[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 12:54 PM: You are right. I should have covered that too.
I am glad to have Alf,"our Constitution man." back.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:28 PM:Asteroid[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:05 PM:
Oh Come on, I won't hurt you. But, go ahead and ignore me. Is Mike America, defender of truth, justice and the American Way going to ignore the others simply because they are liberals? Or is it you just can not handle it.

Jack_D wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:31 PM:Nomination: Bruce Silva's letter for Letter of the Year! Well put; I couldn't have put it better myself (and that's high praise).

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:39 PM:>>>Same question Chuck :As you have been asked a thousand times, how have the liberals (or anyone) prevented Bush from doing anything??>>>> I hear Bush asking for drilling & nuclear to save the economy & jobs and have reliable sources of energy. Maybe you can supply us with a list of liberals who have called for all out drilling & nuclear power plants.
Why is it liberals praise the right of Iran to uild nuclear, but tell Bush to stuff it???

Ron wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:41 PM:Not to get off track about John "I spent Christmas in Cambodia" Kerry, but since my good buddy Wiz @12:55 PM mentioned him, I'll just say: "He reported for duty", and was deemed by the American public as not ready.
But, in the second half of his post, it's more blather about can't do'in stuff from those who prevent us from doing the things necessary to provide the proper energy needs of the American public.
Still stuck in the "robber baron" era...
he fails to see that nearly 40% of our own domestic supply is intentionally placed off limits by those who claim they can reduce our gas costs.
They continually spout off about technology that doesn't exist, or can not be made. Even Ballard, a long time hydrogen cell researcher gave it up.
On top of that, the actual hydrogen fuel needs huge amounts of energy to be created. That will need to come from nuclear, but the lib's the leftists, and the enviro's won't let us.
I'd like to stop digging too, stop digging in Saudia Arabia, the Sudan, Niger, and Venezsula. And start digging here, so we can employ more Americans at home. And while we're at it, let's build some more dams for hydro-electric power! Put even more Americans to work!
Build some nuclear plants, and put even more Americans to work.
It's not that the conservative side is the can't side. It's more like "they Won't let us" side is running the table.

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:46 PM:>>(either in Po'ipu where my sister-in-law was staying or in Princeville where we were staying). Regards, Alf.>>> Nice, I'm impressed. We stayed in the dregs in Kapaa, and only hung around in Poipu and Princeville for status. (and the top-secret beaches for locals, that this haole can't disclose)

This is because alot of wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:56 PM:people don't go off exploring strange territories. A quarter of a century after the outbreak of Aids, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has accepted that the threat of a global heterosexual pandemic has disappeared.
In the first official admission that the universal prevention strategy promoted by the major Aids organisations may have been misdirected, Kevin de Cock, the head of the WHO's department of HIV/Aids said there will be no generalised epidemic of Aids in the heterosexual population outside Africa. Dr De Cock, an epidemiologist who has spent much of his career leading the battle against the disease, said understanding of the threat posed by the virus had changed. Whereas once it was seen as a risk to populations everywhere, it was now recognised that, outside sub-Saharan Africa, it was confined to high-risk groups including men who have sex with men, injecting drug users, and sex workers and their clients.

Alf wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:01 PM:Well, "Surfer" at 11:26AM, although I didn't get any new recipes, I got lots of inspiration. Now comes the fun part, experimenting! I hope that my belly survives! Regards, Alf.

Beth-San Marcos wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:02 PM:dd wiz says about Ron in last para.... He defends the "can't do" mentality of those, like himself, who profit off the current suffering of others while those like me offer serious alternatives. "Ron" and the rest of the oil stock profiteers just want more drilling. But the first step when you're trying to get out of a hole is STOP DIGGING.

Hey Bud, Do you not know that one of the largest profiteers from gas and energy???? The state and federal govt.

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:06 PM:>>>Chuck: I am the World Expert on Kauai -- lived there for years, four months a year for decades. Contact Alf for my e-mail address, and we will communicate next time you go to that island. I have written many pages on Kauai culture,>> Very good. I will do that because I can exchange my little timeshare at Lake Havasu for the PonoKai in Kapaa for free.
But next year, it's back to Normandy for the 65th anniv, and likely the last major gathering of the precious few veterans who remain (or, at a minimum, attend the festivities at the D-Day Museum in New Orleans). It's amazing how the locals around Utah and Omaha beaches are eternally greatful to the yank for their liberation, and yet no one who has graduated from a public school in the last 10 years has even heard of Normandy, or where its located and what its significance is. I for one, rank it as one of the most important days in world history. Whereas, liberals in CA rank Judge Ron George's recent decision as #1

Curious about Credit wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:12 PM:Yokozuna to Ponder This: I wonder how many Americans paid the IRS with a credit card?

Oh Ron cond wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:16 PM:Are you also saying that Muslims should not be allowed to live in the West? I'm not sure I understand your ranting about footbaths. I am aware of a few (VERY few) public colleges that have put such in restrooms. You make it sound like this is common. Of course it isn't at all. It also isn't very like setting up a Christian reading room (though I'd guess there are plenty of such on campuses as well...certainly many public colleges have a variety of Christian clubs and organizations, using facilities paid for by taxpayers). Finally, you say that I claimed Muslims were just like me. On the contrary, I agreed completely that Islam is a very, very different value system than ours. Geeze, Ron, are you addicted to inventing debate opponents? Your propensity for straw here is well earned.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:20 PM:Chuck
[-] wrote on Jun 9, 2008 1:39 PM Ya already been told today, Chuck. Liberals do not praise Iran on nuclear development. When are you going to answer the question. Why didn't Bush and his cronies, rubbers stamp Rebulican Congress for seven years, authorize oil drilling and nuclear? You had the man in office and the votes in the Congres. You did nothing. Liberals have not done so because we don't even have a party in Congress. Or, by liberals do you mean the Democrats?
I think that I shall cut and past my own pat answers for your pat questions and statements in the future. Probably be a lot more efficient that way.

Chuck wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:22 PM:>> I wonder how many Americans paid the IRS with a credit card?>>> Only the one's who collect Frequent Flier miles

Chuck retreats on liberals wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:25 PM:At 1:39 Chuck makes a dramatic retreat (as had to happen if he went near reality). In the past, he has reliably claimed that liberals have prevented the drilling he longs for, blocking all those Republicans from doing what makes so much sense. Now, in his new post, he gives that point up, finally, and asks us to prove that liberals actually ADVOCATED for drilling. In other words, Chuck wants to claim that if they didn't advocate it, they prevented it! This is patently absurd because the Republicans had the majority in both houses from 2000 through 2006 as well as a President who is famous for doing as he wishes, so the absence of "liberal" votes wouldn't have impeded anything. Oh, Chuck, it's fun to watch your rear disappearing over the horizon. Better stick to your silly name-calling...that's as close to facts as you should let yourself get. LOL

Apollo wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:25 PM:Re: Ron (11:49 a.m.)
Ron absurdly denigrates the possible existence of "moderate" Muslims.
Actually, there are two main divisions of Islam, Sunni and Shia (which foreign policy "expert" John McBush could not tell apart), and within each of those are numerous sects.
And yes, some of them are quite moderate, even liberal.
Same as Christianity. Some sects are liberal or moderate, others very extreme and fundamentalist.
And which terrorist has killed more Americans? Wahabbi Sunni Moslem Osama bin Laden (less than 3,000) or Fundamentalist christian Geo Bush (more than 4,000)?

Focal Poiint wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:27 PM:WWII and Judge