Hmmmm wrote on Jun 12, 2008 3:48 PM:"Schwilk says his group simply wants to clean the highway." Then take Hwy 52....Problem solved.

This is wrong wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:07 PM:send your email to the Director of Caltrans in Sacramento. Address can be found under their web site. Wasting taxpayer money to defend their actions FOR illegal immigration activist who advocate breaking the law is unacceptable. I know it is my tax money but I hope the Minutemen win!

No more constitutional rights wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:17 PM:I see reverse racism here. But what needs to be Clarified is that Minutemen are from all ethnic back grounds, but other ethnic groups have labelled all Minutemen as Caucasian or Anglo or of European decent.

Caltran's has caved to the Hispanic Caucus , that is clear to me.

Caltran's has stripped the SDMM of their 1st constitution right!

People need to wake up, All people, Judges over turning the will of voters and political pressure to override others constitutional rights.

It might be all fun and games here , but soon we will all be under the same marxist control if we don't stand up for America and freedom and that includes all races, we should be united not divided!

Sounds like wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:20 PM:some discrimination going on here. Hope the Minutemen pursue all lawsuits. Where is the ACLU???

SDMM wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:31 PM:Caltrans is working on behalf of the same powerful forces that put Ramos and Compeaon in prison. Make no mistake about it - the elite powers in Washington, Sacramento, and San Diego want to keep those borders open to their precious drugs and cheap, peasant labor! They want their North American Union and will do anything to get it, including violate the U.S. Constitution.

That is wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:32 PM:a good question, Sounds like! I've been wondering the same thing.

To Hmmm wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:36 PM:If Enrique and Claudia want to go clean a freeway in Santee, they should go do so.

How about this idea wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:38 PM:we have all of the illegals adopt our southern border, then they can clean up the mess they left breaking into our country?

Remember people wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:39 PM:DOT was the one pushing for allowing Mexican Truckers into America anywhere they wished to go.

DISCRIMINATION wrote on Jun 12, 2008 5:35 PM:This is blatant discrimination against a group of American citizens who happen to be part of a group opposed to illegal immigration. Since when did being for the rule of law and against the rampant lawlessness and obscene costs associated w/illegal immigration become something to bash and discriminate against? While not a Minuteman myself, I and many, many people I know do support their courageous efforts at exposing a very serious problem. For this they have been unjustly maligned by questionable forces and dubious individuals and groups.

Umm.. wrote on Jun 12, 2008 5:36 PM:Commonsense prevails.

They just want to clean the highway, right. There's plenty of highways to be cleaned. No, they really want to have people out there 'cleaning' so they can watch for footsteps. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Funny wrote on Jun 12, 2008 6:58 PM:Maybe everyone should go out and clean the streets themselves! You people need to stop complaining and actually do the work! The MM need at least an hour a day and 2 full Saturdays of hard voluntary work to prove they care about our country. You people don't really care about our country. You're selfish and only endulge in hate and complaining.

So Cal Native wrote on Jun 12, 2008 7:21 PM:All Jeff is trying to do is create publicity for at the tax payers expense. Fill out the paper work properly with a signature and maybe you would have issued the one just north of Oside. I for one am glad he didn't fill out the paper work properly thus issueing the sign to another and now he is complaining about it. Typical Minuteman mentality. We all know this is a modern day hate group which in the minority of opinions in the US as a whole. You will loose in the Federal courts as well because, they have offered you a stretch of road and in not such a hazerdous area. YOU LOOSE!

Jeff M wrote on Jun 12, 2008 9:01 PM:You folks on the left who want to quash the 1st Amendment. Be careful what you wish for. The chill wind you are blowing on anyone opposed to illegal immigration by the use of the race card and activist influences in CalTrans will come back to be used against YOU by your own forces. Such is the way of the communist Reconquista. Then they will re-educate you since the inner tendency for dissent will no longer be of use to them. Witness Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and foremost....MEXICO. And since the left does not favor the 2d Amendment, you will have to call upon those that do to defend you, as always.....

Virginia wrote on Jun 12, 2008 9:36 PM:You folks on the left who want to quash the 1st Amendment. Be careful what you wish for. The chill wind you are blowing on anyone opposed to illegal immigration by the use of the race card and activist influences in CalTrans will come back to be used against YOU by your own forces. Such is the way of the communist Reconquista. Then they will re-educate you since the inner tendency for dissent will no longer be of use to them. Witness Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and foremost....MEXICO. And since the left does not favor the 2d Amendment, you will have to call upon those that do to defend you, as always.....

John wrote on Jun 12, 2008 10:12 PM:I think Schwilk and his ilk want to pick a fight more than they wan t to pick-up trash.

To Sounds Like wrote on Jun 12, 2008 10:30 PM:Ha! The ACLU is only interested in getting involved when it is a "minority" that is being "oppressed".

The ACLU does not have an interest in backing up the rights of "caucasians" or any "Euro" based peoples.

The Minutemen wrote on Jun 12, 2008 11:14 PM:are a bunch of cry-babies. So they didn't get their way and they run around saying its discrimination when the DOT offered to put them on a list. Jeez...want some cheese with that whine? What happened to to tough american spirit I thought they were supposed to represent. They are embarrassing to pro-border groups every where. Now they're acting like every other special interest group...claiming some sort of discrimination. Give it rest there Al Sharpton..I mean minutemen.

Jeff wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:11 AM:This shouldn't even be an issue and yet the people that are "offended" by this sign are the very same people that should not be in this country.
The USA has become a spineless illegal alien, criminal loving country. It's borders are left unprotected for any lowlife to enter. It's disgraceful, anyone who has an ounce of American Patriotism in them should be outraged.
The Latino caucus are just a bunch of mouthpieces that don't care about the United States or the people LEGALLY living here.

Jim wrote on Jun 13, 2008 5:53 AM:The point is they were granted that stretch of freeway until someone said we don't want them to have that. Think of it this way, they are a family given a lease on a house and then they come in to sign the papers and the owner sees the are different and all of a sudden the house is not for lease anymore, except it gets leased the very next week to an acceptable family.
This is not right any way you look at it.

Sure Mr. Schwilk wrote on Jun 13, 2008 6:32 AM:"Schwilk disputes critics' negative characterization of his group and says it simply wants to clean the highway." WHAT?????? Then take Hwy 52.

I have my protection wrote on Jun 13, 2008 6:36 AM:under the 2nd amendment, and heaven help you on the left, when the violence from Mexico goes North I and my family will walk the other way from you and your children. In other words, YOU LOSE!

To I have my protection wrote on Jun 13, 2008 7:25 AM:Are you crazy? Please walk and keep on walking!

Vista Granny wrote on Jun 13, 2008 7:25 AM:Will you people stop saying what the "left" thinks and wants. Common sense tells me that having the minutemen working at that location could cause a riot some day. And, the ACLU will help the Minutemen, if and when they are asked to do so because their Constitutional rights were actually violated. So far, that has not happened.

Angry dog wrote on Jun 13, 2008 7:25 AM:SDMM may not have their HWY back, but to you open borders people , you can't stop the ICE raids. You guys wakened the sleeping giant with your demands for amnesty,so now you have to deal with it. Some good advice to the illegal population and their supporters. Don't poke an angry dog with a stick, he might bite you.

Are you kidding me wrote on Jun 13, 2008 7:30 AM:Jeff M
[-] wrote on Jun 12, 2008 9:01 PM:
Virginia
[-] wrote on Jun 12, 2008 9:36 PM: Same exact post, what gives? See I knew it same commentator using different names to hype their position. I'll bet all these posts are done by no more than two or maybe three people. Rock on if you have time for all that. Signing off for now I have a job.

To Vista Granny wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:08 AM:Grand logic there Granny! And who would be starting the riot??? Punishing the MM for acts of the rioters makes no sense!

If you think wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:09 AM:this is wrong send your email to Caltrans.director@dot.ca.gov Let him know how you feel!

To Are you kidding me wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:09 AM:Wow. Thanks Sherlock! Enjoy your other detective work today.

To Angry Dog wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:20 AM:What is worse the First Amendment violations against Americans or ICE picking up a few illegals?

to Jeff M wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:36 AM:"communist Reconquista", what a laugh! Who are you trying to kid?

Alf wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:39 AM:An angry dog confronts me on my place, he limps home if I'm in a good mood. Regards, Alf.

I hope... wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:41 AM:I hope they get a highway. That way, I'll know where to dump all my trash.

Geez wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:43 AM:The MM are an embarassment to us all. Like we're really suffering because the dishwasher at Dennys has an expired visa.

Scott wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:44 AM:You bet the Minute men want to get in your face.
Someone needs to wake you complacent morons up to the fact this country is being overrun buy people who have no wish to assimilate into our culture.
Look at the fact that some self centered politicians want Spanish to be America’s second language.
If you want more confusion in government, confusion in the work place, a segregated society then by all means let this unchecked immigration continue.
The efficiency of this country will go in the toilet.
On top of that some of these illegals think California belongs to Mexico and will soon be part of Mexico.
Witness the fact Mexican flags were flown over an upside down American flag in our own public high schools, if that doesn’t show you where these illegal’s allegiance lies then nothing will.
It's time we shake this country awake and make it see where it is headed.
We can recall these idiot judges along with the politicians who are selling out this country.
Yes the judges can be recalled in California like any state official.
To recall California officials Google"
procedure for recalling elected officials in California"

to Angry Dog wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:46 AM:And do what? Throw a gravy-covered biscuit at me? MM are a finge group of radicals and aren't worth taking seriously.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:02 AM:Obviously Caltrans feels they're being used as a propaganda tool and are leary of aligning themselves with the SDMM. However, I am all in favor of allowing the SDMM access to the Adopt-a-highway program as long as they follow the rules like everyone else. I am thoroughly against the illegal alien invasion and want it stopped and I already know about the SDMM, so a sign isn't really news to me. Hopefully the SDMM will prevail and do their part in 'adopting' a highway.

I eat wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:05 AM:Angry Dogs

Jim wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:08 AM:Does anybody care that their rights are being stepped on? Right, wrong or indifferent they are citizens of this country and their rights are gauranteed by the very laws that keep us all. I say back the hell off and let them have their stretch of freeway.

To Are you kidding me. wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 AM:I knew that was the case. I know the minutemen and the like minded are the minority and I have to say I was amazed at the amounts of comments made on this blog. Now I realize it's just smoke and mirrors.

Floyd wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:41 AM:No, CalTrans hasn't been "thrust into the heart of the heated immigration debate" because unlawful entry into the country is not "immigration". It's "trespassing".

Jim wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:45 AM:To "Sure Mr. Schwilk", so a road is a road?
Right, so if you go to a car dealer for a 2 door compact and they bring out a 4 door crew cab, you are going to say OK, a vehicle is a vehicle and take it? The rules can't (shouldn't) be changed just to please a few.

Illegal No More wrote on Jun 13, 2008 10:10 AM:Hey "No More Constitutional Rights": Guess what? Being a member of a particular ethnic group does not ensure you are not a self-hating racist and a yellow-dog appeaser of those who try oppress your own people. This is the equivilent of saying "some of my best friends are brown so I can't be a racist." And how about this to the rest of you close-minded, frightened, unilingual, Spanish-impaired, up-tight, blue-haired, self-righteous, un-Christian and un-American race baiters: "illegal" is an offensive and odious term used by racists.

So Jim wrote on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 AM:I go to buy a car right. They say you qualify for the loan and I take the car only to find out later I do not qualify for credit, and they take the car back, is that okay according to your book of rules? Jeff and his gang of not so merrymen just don't qualify, period!!!

To Illegal No More wrote on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 AM:The SDMM are the ones treated unfairly by DOT rescinding that portion of the hwy near the San Clemente Border Patrol checkpoint. Get a copy of a dictionary and read the defiinition of "illegal". Oh, you don't have a dictionary? Let me translate for you: Unlawful, illegitmate, lawless, criminal, unconstitutional, illicit.

No culture wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:04 AM:The U.S.A. does not have a culture. we have a blend of different ciltures, not one culture. People who immigrate to this country are only adding to the melting pot. You are un-American if you believe only your traditions, morals, values, language,customs, etc. are "American". Perhaps we should all assimilate into the Native American culture instead. They were here first and still are present. Disregard, Viking and Beiring Strait theroies. The Natives established an existence here. They are the ones who should be angry about English being spoken!

to Illegal No More wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:10 AM:Did you really just say that "illegal" is an offensive term? Seriously... did you really say that? Do you really think that? Sad, Sad, Sad. Judging by your post... YOU are part of the problem and no where near part of the solution. Get a grip on reality.

sdraoul wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:23 AM:The "Adopt-a-Highway" program does not entail actually cleaning up a section of highway. It is designed to raise funds for state-paid-for clean-up in exchange for a sign with a name on it.

Pedestrians are prohibited by law on California freeways. Thus, MM are breaking the law if they gather to pick up trash.

They also insult the intelligence of reasonable people when they claim their rights are being violated.

The 1st Amendment says "Congress shall make no law...(regarding) speech." Speech has nothing to do with this dust-up. The only thing involved is the dumbness involved by dumbnuts who can't read regulations.

Ignorance is no excuse here, but it is absolute.

Mad Max wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:50 AM:remember Americans rule the Freeways, not a bunch of liberals and illegals. See ya on the freeway, if you have gas!

yep wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:53 AM:The fact is that most of these minutemen are anglo which most of them are from the south. A part of the country where minorities still have to go greater length than anglos just to get ahead in life. This has been proven by studies. We don't need people like that coming over here bringing this kind of segregation.

bob wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:56 AM:Most of these minutemen come from a part of the country where there is still plenty of racial discrimination. I know first hand as I used to live in the south for some time. We don't need these people and there radical views here.

Alf wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:06 PM:Way to go, "Scott" at 8:44AM!! Your words "Someone needs to wake you complacent morons" are exactly why a good many people find sdmm, their members and their tactics repugnant, offensive and counterproductive AT BEST. Keep on insulting and continue to prove that there is no limit on the depths to which you will sink. Regards, Alf.

Alf wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:14 PM:Well, "Illegal No More" at 10:10AM, are the people who cross into this country illegally not illegal? I am not a racist, a statement that ensures that you call me one, and I call a burgler a burgler, a murderer a murder and an illegal alien an illegal alien. If you do not like the term, tough! It is honest and accurate, not some mush-mouthed, watered-down PC crap. Regards, Alf.

To Illegal No More wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:38 PM:Frightened, ha that's a laugh.
Like the movie line went, "were mad as hell and were not going to take it anymore".
So illegal's, pack your bages an go.

Definition wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:38 PM:To "Illegal no More" who said that the term illegal is an offensive and odious term used by racists.

You, my friend, are wrong! Illegal is defined as :: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules

So to use illegal as an adjective to describe a person that is doing something unlawful or not sanctioned by official rules, is just that, using an ADJECTIVE to describe someone. Please get a little thicker skin if something so petty as the word illegal is offensive to you.

Really wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:49 PM:Illegal is in the dictionary along with alien. Do you have a problem with understanding the english language? Or are you trying to talk pig latin? Cuz friend, you don't make any sense.

Illegals all wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:52 PM:need to leave America NOW. Illegal Rapists, Illegal Murders, Illegal Aliens, all have broken our laws and need to go!

Bo wrote on Jun 13, 2008 1:15 PM:The Minutemen are a political organization with a political message: reform immigration laws and enforcement. They are being denied by CALTRANS based upon their political affiliation. Political affilliation is a protected class under the Civil Rights Act. CALTRANS has violated their Civil Rights!

THANKS MM wrote on Jun 13, 2008 1:35 PM:There have already been 57 blogs to this article. That in itself indicates that many people view the illegal immigration issue as a very serious one. I say THANKS to the minutemen for helping bring the serious nature of the problem out of the dark. Whether the MM get a particular stretch of freeway or not, their (our) cause is being heard loud and clear. And the more the open border types complain the better. Just as their "Day without an 'immigrant' protests" changed many citizens from being complacent to being outraged at our lack of border security, so will this. THANKS MM.

To SDRaoul and others wrote on Jun 13, 2008 1:50 PM:I don't know why I am bothering to reply, but here goes anyway:
If you would bother to look at the whole story as it has been developing over the months you would find that the original part of the highway, up near the checkpoint before Camp Pendelton, the MM were sponsoring was taken away from them because ILLEGAL ALIENS/SYMPATHIZERS cried and whined about them being "offended" that the MM was allowed to sponsor this road. Learn to read and then to think and then for once in your life get your facts straight. You are one to talk about ignorance...

Thanks wrote on Jun 13, 2008 2:04 PM:MM keep up the American Citizens fight, the losers will lose in the end.

another sane opinion wrote on Jun 13, 2008 3:40 PM:give the MM back their freeway sign!!!!! It is my taxpayer dollars that are paying for the freeway. Illegal aliens don't pay taxes! Now *that* is offensive!

Tee Hee Hee wrote on Jun 13, 2008 10:32 PM:Tee Hee Hee Hee Hee. OMG...paybacks are a... and ....you reap what you sow... and ...what goes around comes around. Tee Hee Hee Hee. The SDMM (all four of them) pose as if they have made any significant differences in the failures of the federal government illegal immigration problem. But, what the SDMM are really known for is "a group known for protesting day-labor hiring sites". Wow! What a great achievement - Tee hee hee. The SDMM need to re-write their plan and start "protesting" our federal representatives that have the authority to make changes. P.s. I hope the SDMM lawsuit gets thrown out on its derriere.

Im Glad wrote on Jun 14, 2008 7:59 AM:I'm glad to see that the Minutemen are getting press.

Citizens are pissed and someone has to lead the charge. Our government is not doing the job to stop illegal immigration.

I support you Minutemen!

No culture wrote on Jun 14, 2008 8:02 AM:Did you really say this country has no culture? You're a fool! You should travel a little The rest of the worlds residents seem to be very aware of what American culture is. Our culture has proudly emerged out of that melting pot that you speak of. The problem with ILLEGAL immigrants is that unlike other immigrants they don't want to melt but they want to enjoy all the advantages. It's not a tossed salad.

I'm personally sick of the PC bureaucracy and by elected officials that no longer represent me...

Mark wrote on Jun 14, 2008 9:15 AM:The article says: "controversial anti-illegal immigration group".

This is utterly absurd characterization of Minutemen.

Since when demands to enforce the law and end lawlessness deserve to be dismissed as "controversial"?

The anti-American groups that support million-man invasion from Mexico (euphemistically called "migration") were never called "controversial", although their activities border with "treasonous".

The La Raza that claims that some people in America are entitled to claim property of others just because of their ethnicity (an idea that can be traced to Nazi claim that Eastern Europe belongs to Germanic people just because of their ethnicity) were never called "controversial".

The divisive attempts of all the above to make this nation bi-lingual and bi-cultural that already split us on two separate parts were never called "controversial" (not even "divisive").

It's amazing how much subtle truth-spinning one can fit in one short sentence. Whoever gets credit for it is a spinmanster.

dharc wrote on Jun 14, 2008 10:21 AM:The melting pot thing doesn't work when you slam tens millions of foreign nationals in the pot. It overflows,starts a fire and burns down your house.

Bob wrote on Jun 14, 2008 10:56 AM:The politicians are destroying our country for the sake of greed. They are diluting our culture, history, language to put more bucks in their pockets. I don't believe that the majority of Americans want the United States turned into a third world country where there is no middle class, just rich and poor. The same greed and self serving nature is present with this whole oil issue.
Greed is destroying our country, our planet and until we stop electing greedy leaders, it will continue.

face wrote on Jun 14, 2008 11:37 AM:Minutemen are a joke! You want to see these so called "American Patriots" in action? Well they will probaly be lounging around in lawn chairs drinking beer. I would not be surprised if I saw them on the highway like that. Men of action? ha!

Pieter wrote on Jun 14, 2008 3:19 PM:Maybe we should have the illegals that have lost their jobs in the CA construction industry clean the side of our roads. If we do that, then we can leave the volunteer signs that name KB Homes, Pardee, etc where they are right now.

To Face wrote on Jun 14, 2008 3:38 PM:I seriously doubt that what you are implying is true... but even if it was...So what? You have a problem with that? Isn't it my right to sit in a lawn chair and drink a beer when I want to? Maybe you would rather be led around on a leash and told what to do, when to do it, where you can and cannot but not told why. Is that "your" idea of America? It certainly is not mine.

Roberto wrote on Jun 14, 2008 7:53 PM:Poor Bob's culture is being diluted for the sake of greed...I think of it as evolution...just like the other racist I say goob bye Bob!

Earth citizen wrote on Jun 14, 2008 8:43 PM:I don't agree with everything about the Minuteman. However they should have the same rights of free speech as everyone else. I support LEGAL immigration. The people who come here illegally and call themselves "La Raza" are trashing this country. They are lowering the level of culture here and turning areas into slums.

Escowatchdog wrote on Jun 14, 2008 8:56 PM:The SDMM are a bunch of cry babies. They harass everyone else and try to strip others of their rights yet when the tables turn hey can't take the heat. What hypocrisy! If they really want to pick up trash, then by all means go ahead. Or does not getting recognition for picking up trash satisfy your "civic duty"? It's not really about picking up trash, is it?

Jimi wrote on Jun 15, 2008 8:43 AM:Caltrans made a political decision, to take away a stretch of highway the MM were previously awarded. To CYA, they took that stretch off from the program. We really know the true reasons, the open borders La Raza groups protested and Caltrans folded. If you are OK with that, wait until they take something away from you. At this rate the Bill of Rights will be as useful as toilet paper. When one loses their rights, we all lose them.

Bobby wrote on Jun 15, 2008 1:42 PM:Why are Californians so shocked that it is no longer possible to control the population invasion from Mexico? Do you not yet realize that the reconquista Mexican politicians and their Democratic enablers that you have put into office in this State, are now firmly in control and nothing constructive can be done about drugs, gangs, or illegal aliens and their bankrupting of the State. Just my opinion, if your still allowed to have one as an American.