Outrageous wrote on Jun 19, 2008 8:30 PM:It is plainly obvious that Lori Saldana ordered Caltrans to shut down the entire program when the Minutemen made their case to adopt another stretch of I-5 this week. This is soooo unconstitutional. The Fed Courts need to step in and stop these bad legislators from hijacking our CA govt.

Roberto wrote on Jun 19, 2008 8:53 PM:This stinks. I hope the ACLU gets involved and ends this third world political junk. I expect to see this when I go to Mexico, but I thought we had a constitution here? What is Saldana's problem? Who is she working for? Not the U.S. citizens in her district or state thats for sure! I'm calling the governor's office about this Friday!

Caltrans Stupid wrote on Jun 19, 2008 9:46 PM:How dumb is Caltrans? Are they thinking that this will just go away if they ignore it?

Go ahead! Bury your head in the sand. The Minutemen are going to fight, fight fight!!!!

IroquoisChief wrote on Jun 19, 2008 9:47 PM:Let's tell it like it is:
'Immigrant-rights activists' said the Minutemen shouldn't qualify. The correct term is 'Law-breaking Illegal-Aliens rights activists'...

Saville insisted that the decision to suspend the program wasn't prompted by a specific incident or the interest of any particular group.(A blatant lie)

The presence of the controversial activists along such a busy stretch presented safety concerns. (Mafiosa for 'If you don't get rid of these guys, we're gonna' break some arms).

Assemblywoman Lori Saldana, D-San Diego, said last month that she wanted Caltrans to refine its application procedures... (find some way, any way, Constitutional rights be damned, to make sure the Hispanic Caucus gets rid of this super-successful thorn in thier side).

JohnBoy wrote on Jun 19, 2008 10:04 PM:I am an immigrant rights activist, what is illegal about that? You right wing nutjobs are an odd bunch. Funny, I do not see you blow hards talking smack about the ACLU when they are on your side.

What the heck wrote on Jun 19, 2008 11:16 PM:If ACLU David Blair-Loy whom has been a critic of the SDMM sees the timing of Caltran's decision to revamp the program being odd; that tells me Caltran's decision is out of wack and out of control.

Is the state of California being run by assemblywoman Lori Saldana's?

Seems like a lot of hassle to have a board of director, roster and by-laws, just to clean up a damn HWY.

Well we can Thank Ms. Saldana for California and Caltran's having to use taxes to clean hwy's now instead of the great program that got the hwy's cleaned for free.

I have to say Ms. Saldana appears to be representing the wrong group of people, if you get my drift.

To JohnnyBoy wrote on Jun 19, 2008 11:47 PM:Listen up Johnny, legal immigrants have all the rights afforded to native born citizens. They don't need rights' activists. Only ILLEGAL aliens need activists. Get a life, get a real job you left wing nut job! The ACLU is pro-illegal immigration and pro-open borders. Supporting the U.S. Consitution on one issue while ignoring another issue does not help the ACLU's image. Sorry, no medals for them.

Marie wrote on Jun 20, 2008 12:00 AM:Caltrans actions are so transparent!

And Ms. Saldana, why should a group that wants to assist our state by cleaning our freeways have to have a board of directors, a roster, bylaws etc. You are also very transparent and obviously discriminatory!

This is wrong!

Mextrans wrote on Jun 20, 2008 12:18 AM:This is unbelievable! Give SDMM a freeway already! I know this is Mexifornia, but are there not any sacred rights for citizens left? SDMM stands for secure borders and the rule of law. The Mexican illegal alien activists can't stand that message so they can block them? This is insanity! Gov. Arnold needs to fix this or we might as well all move to Mexico!

If I dont get my way wrote on Jun 20, 2008 6:13 AM:then its the "highway" Caltrans. What cowards they are in the face of discrimination. Just halt the program all together, that will fix em. Go Minutemen sue and hope you win.

Jaque wrote on Jun 20, 2008 6:29 AM:And why does the writer have to editorialize with his statement ""controversial"" group.

Poor writing, even by junior college standards.

Put all of the wrote on Jun 20, 2008 6:50 AM:illegals and I mean all of them that are waiting for deportation on a chain gang. This way we can still have clean freeways. Also put the illegals crossing the border to work cleaning up our side of the border before they deport them.

Sue Caltrans wrote on Jun 20, 2008 6:51 AM:They don't have enough money now and will have even less as the economy collapes. SUE THEM!!!

Vista Granny wrote on Jun 20, 2008 7:12 AM:Just read the comments above and you can see why Caltrans is afraid to let these people have the stretch of highway where the Border Patrol works. Life is too short to waste it being so hateful.

LOL wrote on Jun 20, 2008 7:22 AM:The 52 is reserved for Minutemen. Why can't they just accept that!? I bet if a border patrol station was on the 52 rather than on the 5, they wouldn't want to adopt the 5!

Caltrans Regs wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:11 AM:Caltrans violated their own regs when they tried to move SDMM 50 miles to Santee. Their regs say moves have to be within 10 miles. LOL needs to STHU since he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Our govts. are slowly taking all our rights away including Vista Granny's and LOL's. Wake up people!

Americanwoman wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:15 AM:This is an introduction to the North American Union, which is looming in the near future. The most important thing for all good, law-abiding legal U.S. citizens to keep in mind is that NO PARTICIPANT IN ANY MINUTEMAN GROUP HAS EVER BEEN CONVICTED OF A SINGLE CRIMINAL ACT. For the open-borders radical Latino socialists to infer that concerned Americans should be shunned for their regard for the sovereignty of this once great nation is unconscionable. Any intelligent human being with eyes and ears should have recognized the highly political, racially-driven agenda being perpetrated on the U.S. by now...particularly by Mexico. Why has so little been accomplished in securing our borders...even after Sept. 11, 2001? Why are we now being asked to applaud the work of ICE (Dept. of Homeland Security), when they have taken seven years to begin a "crackdown" on employers of illegals? Bush is about to depart the White House as one of the most reviled U.S. Presidents in history. This 'sham action' by DHS is too little, and comes too late to save the "oil men" in charge of the country's destiny for the last 7 years. GW has done his part to jump-start the NAU, strategically making the U.S. "ripe" for globalization. How many times have readers heard it? How many times have we pleaded, "WAKE UP, AMERICA!" We are on the edge of the abyss, and there is not a single man or woman runnjing for office who will save this country now. Can you say, "REVOLUTION?"

Oneblondechique wrote on Jun 20, 2008 10:07 AM:I am so over ... California. Grow up. ... my husband immigrated (legally) to California 17 years ago and it makes no sense not to go throught the immigration process legally. Illegal Immigrants cost our state billions of dollars each fiscal year in medical bills, education costs, welfare... The list goes on and on. It is really sad because we have actuall american citizens that need help but all of the funds go to the illegals. We have american children everyday that dont eat, and are lucky to make it to school. How about we quite dealing with the illegal immigrants that financially cost each man, woman and child in america 500.00 dollars a year in taxes. I never see that money, so where oh where does it go.

To Vista Granny wrote on Jun 20, 2008 10:18 AM:Yeah, Americans have become so 'afraid' to stand up for anything our constituional writers wanted to protect. So instead we just allow crime to happen because we're 'afraid to hurt the criminal's feeling?. Now the groups who do stand up for Americans' rights are violent and scary? This is just more propaganda by illegal immigrant activists to divert attention from the real issue. Rest assured, that's right in line with the leftists giving more freedom, protection & rights to rapists and serial killers than their victims. I'm just disappointed that our legal aliens aren't speaking out more for their rights on this issue. Maybe it's a fear of backlash? Sorry, but as you said life is too short. Why allow this bad precedent to further degrade our society & values for the next generation? It's our job as mature & responsible adults to make this country better & sometimes that means upsetting the status quo. The rest of us are sick & tired of the dumbing down of our country. Getting back to the real issue, The Minute Men is just another organization that's volunteering to clean up the garbage that is left by people who don't care to keep our country clean. They do that on their own time. They're not out there refusing to work their regular jobs or holding picket signs. They're just picking up trash. CalTrans is just trying to protect themselves from the ACLU (whose influence should be questioned by the Feds) by putting its tail between its legs. Why has it become a 'bad thing' to stand up for our rights?

Thanks Vista Granny wrote on Jun 20, 2008 10:30 AM:I agree with you. These comments are hateful. This was a nice program that was working well until the MY-nute "men" decided to make it a political forum. Can you imagine them waving anti-immigrant signs on I-5? I can and it's already so dangerous there simply couldn't have been even a slim chance that would happen. I am a strong support of ACLU usually but not on this one.

Try Again wrote on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 AM:The government in the form of Caltrans has apparently favored one group over another which is discrimination. That is illegal, I thought. Unless of course those being discriminated against are non-hispanic?

Caltrans is wrong on this one wrote on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 AM:It seems Caltrans knows they are in big trouble and are just huddling up to prevent future "stupid" moves on their part.

If they don't have to deal with new applications then they won't have to figure out a way to discriminate.

Anti-illegal immigration wrote on Jun 20, 2008 11:40 AM:Well, of course discrimination is illegal--unless the person being discriminated against is white, then it's anything goes!

To Blondie wrote on Jun 20, 2008 12:20 PM:If you don't like MY beautiful State California than feel free to leave.

To To Vista Granny wrote on Jun 20, 2008 12:55 PM:Funny you say "Why has it become a 'bad thing' to stand up for our rights?" Perhaps you don't know this since our society is "so dumbed down" but according to the 14th Amendment ANY PERSON in juridiction has equal protection under the law. So why do you bash those who wish to protect the rights of those you want to take rights away from? I appreciate those who are not afraid to stand up for the rights of all people. Also the ACLU is standing up for the rights of the vigilante group being discussed in this forum.

To Anti-illegal immigration wrote on Jun 20, 2008 1:37 PM:OH PLEASE!!!

Of course wrote on Jun 20, 2008 2:29 PM:wanting laws upheld and the US Constitution preserved are SO hateful. As is wanting to clean a Highway in YOUR community in front of your supportive neighbors. The open border cadre is getting more and more ridiculous. Caltrans is a pawn of the anti American Latino Caucus...just MORE of your tax dollars at work...AGAINST you.

GET OVER THE HATE wrote on Jun 20, 2008 3:17 PM:OH SHUT UP!!!!! ENOUGH ALREADY!!! ALL THE RACISTS PLEASE LEAVE MY STATE IMMEDIATELY!!!! I LOVE THEM ILLEGALS AND I ROLL OUT THE WELCOME MAT!!! WE NEED THEIR CHEAP LABOR AND TAXES TO SUSTAIN OUR ECONOMY.

Are you being a racist wrote on Jun 20, 2008 3:56 PM:when you object to someone breaking into your home or country?

Matthew wrote on Jun 20, 2008 5:37 PM:To Thanks Vista Granny:

Your imagination is running wild on you, oldie. Minutemen = American Patriots. Illegal alien abettors = TRAITORS. Capisce?

RealAmerica wrote on Jun 20, 2008 6:55 PM:I loved the comment that CalTrans violated its own rules about relocating the Minutemen 50 miles away when the limit is 10. That is the act of a guilty party right there.

As for the "let's all feel good" liberals, I don't feel good when your racist actions to pander to the squatters who can easily cross our borders causes major depletion of my economic resources, my enjoyment of the environment, my rights to be a citizen of a country free from invasion. ...

June wrote on Jun 20, 2008 7:00 PM:To Johnboy...good to see you're an immigrant rights activist, but please don't ever get mixed up with illegal aliens.

SleepyCCS wrote on Jun 20, 2008 8:14 PM:Let's talk about hate. I see hate filled illegal immigrant gang members ethnically cleansing black Americans from LA neighborhoods. Mean while my fellow liberals sit around and say NOTHING about the hatred that must be in their hearts of these illegal immigrants to kill black Americans that have no gang affiliations. Most of the pro-illegal immigrant groups have been silent on this issue. So to all the white patriots on this forum the next time you are accused of being a racist remind your accusers that you are not the ones committing ethnic cleansing in America.

To Matthew June and Sleepy CCS wrote on Jun 20, 2008 8:49 PM:Matthew, get a clue man!!! June please don't get it twisted woman immigrants have rights if you like it or not. To sleepy CCS sadly people commit crimes everyday it does not equal ethnic cleasing!! It is a true tragedy that Jamiel Shaw lost his life but that does not equal ethnic cleasing. May I ask a question? A few years ago a woman shot and killed her 4 children she and they were white does that equal ethnic cleasing? White, Brown, Black or whatever the color of your skin crime happens why make it a race issue? Get a grip on yourselves.

Public works wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:41 PM:This situation reminds me of gym class in high school. Our teacher, coach W...(ex-marine, crew cut) would make everyone run laps just because a few jerks were having towel fights. Caltrans is using high school gym teacher logic to deal with the Minutemen and they both have ruined it for others who really want to do volunteer work.

To Public works wrote on Jun 20, 2008 11:17 PM:I agree with most "a few bad apples ruins the bunch" analogies, but labeling the Minutemen as a bad apple is way off base. Caltrans' recent handling of the adopt-a-highway program has ruined it for everyone. The Minutemen only wish to have current immigration laws enforced... don't we all? Why do illegal immigrants (and their supporters) feel they're above the law?

Garcia wrote on Jun 21, 2008 1:42 AM:Caltrans has also been instrumental in the case of the Laguna Beach day labor site land being sold to the city of Laguna Beach at a MILLION dollar LOSS!

The land belongs to the state of CA, but the city of Laguna Beach has been illegally squatting on it for 10 years in order to run a day labor site that aids illegal aliens.

When the land came up for sale at an appraised value of $1.2 MILLION dollars Caltrans made a "special deal" with the city of Laguna Beach that allowed them to buy it for a mere $18,000.

So, the State of California is taking over a MILLION dollar LOSS on the land just so the day labor site doesn't have to shut down.

This when the state of CA is facing a $15 BILLION deficit.

Caltrans is catering to the illegal alien supporters.

Bobby wrote on Jun 21, 2008 8:26 AM:This is essentially a phony site that censors comments it doesn't like. The day will come when freedom is doomed on this miracle internet also. The ancient Greeks allowed debate of any kind, uncensored. We however are more modern. Other sites constantly censor the citizenrys comments also, to be fair to the NCT.

Bobby wrote on Jun 21, 2008 11:58 AM:People on thousands of blog sites involving illegal immigration argue over the effect it has on the economy, on the schools,on crime, on the environment--yet miss the big picture. Illegal immigration is being ALLOWED AND ENCOURAGED BY A GOVERNMENT THAT WILL NO LONGER DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. THAT IS THE BIG PICTURE AND THAT IS SCARY.